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The Phantom on scyfy

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narfstar

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The Phantom on scyfy
« on: June 24, 2010, 03:13:20 AM »

Did anyone else watch this. I have it on dvr and am half finished. I will reluctantly finish it. Do these people have no idea what makes a character special? It is the iconic aspects that make them legends. They remove all that and only keep the names. SPOILERS




1. Terrible suit one of the great things about the Phantom was that he was not a "super" hero.
2. Being able to reach into flame to get the ring how lame.
3. Not raised with the training to be the Phantom he could never be the Phantom
4. So many things wrong with this
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boox909

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Re: The Phantom on scyfy
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 03:26:07 AM »

I meant to watch this one over the weekend, but got busy and never could. A pal mentioned it today, but he actually thought it was a new film for "The Shadow"  ;D ;D ;D I guess it was that memorable::)

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Did anyone else watch this. I have it on dvr and am half finished. I will reluctantly finish it. Do these people have no idea what makes a character special? It is the iconic aspects that make them legends. They remove all that and only keep the names. SPOILERS




1. Terrible suit one of the great things about the Phantom was that he was not a "super" hero.
2. Being able to reach into flame to get the ring how lame.
3. Not raised with the training to be the Phantom he could never be the Phantom
4. So many things wrong with this

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narfstar

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 11:12:13 AM »

I am watching the whole thing not sure why I am finishing it. Just my nature I guess. I think it is a shame to call it the Phantom. Rather than ticking off the true fans using the name of the Phantom they would have been better off using a new character for a new audience.
There are enough (way to many) differences that they could have used a different name and not worried about trademark infringement for the other stuff.
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Captain Audio

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2010, 07:19:11 AM »

Well I saved the program to my DVR but the local cable company was shifting the channels changing their numbers around that night so early in part two the dvr ended up recording the program on the channel that had taken the place of Scy Fy at that number.
I'm not that displeased since though I was looking for whatever good points I could find in this pilot, I simply wasn't finding any.

Though I must admit, I never really cottened to the old Phantom costume. Through I'm really glad it didn't have a cape.
Cape and cowl worked for the Batman, and a very few others, but on most it just looked silly.
The purple Phantom costume just never looked right to me. I'd seen the costume as gray in the B&W newspaper strips long before ever seeing the comic books with color.
As gray and black it looked more menacing and workmanlike.

The Scy Fy body armor outfit did not look very realistic to me, more like it was cobbled together from sports protective equipment. I've seen some very elaborate ultralight body armor worn by those who like to kayak down white water gorges, those outfits looked better than the SF costume armor.

In studying the early ballistic armor I found that there were effective concealable body armors available in the early 20th century.
The best I found used a thick layer silk vest with a thin nickel steel or Hadon Manganese steel breast plate over the front.
The Russians had bought thousands of the silk vests and added the breastplates of nickel steel to provide protection for front line officers during the Russo-Japanese war before WW1. These apparently worked very well in stopping revolver bullets at point blank range, and rifle bullets at a distance.
The US Army tested the silk vest by itself and found it would stop buckshot and most pocket pistol bullets at anything but point blank range, and the .45 pistol bullet at ranges great enough that velocity dropped to around 40 feet per second.
No where near as good as Kevlar of course.

The "Motorized Bandits" like Dilinger, Floyd, and Nelson often wore body armor, which prompted police to buy up WW1 surplus Browning Automatic Rifles and Colts Firearms produced a special Law Enforcement version called the "Monitor" to engage armored gunmen on equal terms.
Dilinger and several others used cutdown BARs to counter FBI body armor and lightly armored police vans.
The .38 Super Auto cartridge and the .357 Revolver were marketed to LEO as necessary in defeating concealed body armor at close ranges.

Black Widow Spider "dragline" silk webbing is aproximately as strong as Kevlar, perhaps a bit stronger.
Were I working on a hero character set in the 20's or 30's I'd have him discover that all those spider webs blocking off portions of the cave under his mansion could be put to use. He could set his trusty butler to gathering the webs and processing them into thread for weaving a light concealable vest to wear under the costume, and maybe some thin strong rope for swinging in from roof tops and such.

Spider Silk was once used to make the crosshairs of telescopic sights, nothing else that thin was anywhere near as strong.

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Ed Love

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 11:08:00 AM »

There's a Spider pulp story where the villain wears a bulletproof silk vest which makes him seem supernatural/immortal as the Spider "kills" him several times but he keeps coming back.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 04:43:40 AM »


There's a Spider pulp story where the villain wears a bulletproof silk vest which makes him seem supernatural/immortal as the Spider "kills" him several times but he keeps coming back.


I had not heard of "The Spider" till now, I looked him up and found this looks to be a very interesting series idea.
They are reprinting and selling PDFs of these novels. One day I may get into reading these, the plots sound great and ahead of their time.

As for the Phantom Scy Fy film, it did have an important element. The scenes of racing across rooftops and such show the sort of manuvering that human superheroes would have to do to cover so much ground so quickly, especially undetected.
Similar scenes have been showing up in the more recent spy movies.
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paw broon

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2010, 04:55:48 PM »

Didn't see it.  Probably missed it although I tried to keep an eye out for it but as it feels like half of my family are ill just now, my mind wasn't really on the job.  I know I should keep an open mind but it is difficult when faced with the previews and your comments.  I feel very sorry for the great legend that is The Phantom.  I assume you've seen the examples of the interior art for the new Dynamite comic?  Nuff said!
Back again.  Here's the link for those who haven't sicked up yet.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26881
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 04:59:11 PM by paw broon »
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