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Title: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on October 31, 2019, 08:42:08 AM
Hello Folks.  I have a great love of much of the artwork of "The Sangor Shop" Studio, started by Ben Sangor about the end of 1941, to take advantage of Disney Studios' strike, and Warner Brothers' lockout, to provide high-quality artists for his and Jim Hughes' new line of comic books, as well as to make a profit on selling high-quality comic artwork to smaller comic book publishers who couldn't or wouldn't want to hire a decent artist staff of their own.  They provided the art for Ned Pines' Better/Nedor/Standard Comics, funny animal stories to National/DC, and the same to many small independent publishers.  These artists were located on The East Coast, mostly near New York (moonlighters from Fleischer, Famous and Van Beuren Studios, and in Los Angeles (ex Disney and WB animators).

In our discussion of this on another topic's thread, The Australian Panther suggested to me that we should start a thread discussing comic book artists that came from The Animation Industry, and those that started in newspaper comic strips and comic books that left for animation.  So I have posted this thread.  The list immediately below, is what I knew offhand from memory, with little research added to fill out the major firms for which these artists and writers worked to fill out their career paths.  Of course it is far from complete, as I have worked only in the "Funny Animal" arena my whole career, and have only read that genre, plus very cartoony Human character comics all my life.  I know NOTHING about realistically-drawn comic book and comic strip art, and which artists and writers produced them. So, please fill us in on any artists and writers that you know, and the publishers/studios for whom they worked, plus any information not on my list of creators.  Also, we'd like to read any stories or anecdotes about those characters and studio officials, and editors, and history of what went on related to that interesting symbiosis between the two industries.

Comic Book Artists From Animation


Carl Barks - Disney Animation to Western/Dell Comics (Disney/MGM)
Bill Wright - Disney Animation to Disney NewspaperComics to Western Pub/Disney Comics/LantzComics
Dick Moores - Disney Animation to Disney newspaper comics to Western Pub./Disney Comics to Newspaper Comics (Gasoline Alley)
Walt Kelly - Disney Animation to Western Pub./Disney Comics/Dell Fairy Tale Comics/Pogo Comics to Pogo newspaper strip
Tony Strobl - Disney Animation to Western Pub./Disney Comics
Paul Murry - Disney Animation to Western Pub./Disney Comics
Jack Bradbury - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop - to Western Pub./Disney Comics
Al Hubbard - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop - to Western Pub/Disney Comics
Al Taliaferro - Disney Animation to Disney Newspaper Comics/Disney Comic Books - Sangor Shop
Riley Thompson - Disney Animation to Western Pub/Disney Comics
Ken Hultgren - Disney Animation to Western Pub./Dell(Disney Comics) to Sangor Comics Shop to WB Animation
Lynn Karp - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to WesternPub/DisneyComics/WBComics/MGMComics
Gil Turner - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop and WesternPub/Disney Comics
Jack Hannah - Disney Animation to Western Pub/Disney Comics
Harvey Eisenberg - MGM Animation to Joe Barbera's Dearfield Comics (Foxy Fagan/Red Rabbit) to Western Pub/MGM Comics(Tom & Jerry) to Hanna Barbera Comics
Hank Ketcham - animator for Walter Lantz then Disney to own newspaper comic strip (Dennis The Menace)
Don (Aar) (R.) Christensen - Disney Animation to WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Western Pub/Disney Comics
Manny Gonzales - Disney Animation to Disney Newspaper Comics
Bob Wickersham - Animation with Charles Mintz, Harman-Ising, Iwerks, Fleischer and Disney Studios to Sangor Comics Shop(Creston/ACG and DC Comics to WB Animation
Ray Patin - Charles Mintz, Ub Iwerks, Harman-Ising, Disney, WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Disney Animation to independent animated commercials producer
Don Gunn - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Fawcett Comics (Hoppy The Marvel Bunny) to Western Pub/Disney Comics
Jim Tyer - Fleischer, Terrytoons and Paramount Animation to Sanger Shop to St. Johns Terrytoons Comics to Bakshi Animation
Preston Blair - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop
Jim Davis - Disney Animation to Fleischer Animation to Famous Studios, to Sangor Comics Shop
Pete Alvarado - Disney Animation to Western Pub/Dell Comics (Disney/WB/MGM/Lantz/HannaBarbera)
Phil DeLara - WB Animation to Western Pub/WB/Disney/MGMHannaBarbera Comics
Ken Champin - WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop
Al Stahl - newspaper comic strip to Fleischer Studio to Columbia(Terrytoons) to Al Stahl Animated
Bob Karp - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Disney Comics Dept.
Hubie Karp - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop
Hawley Pratt - Disney to WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to DePatie-Freeleng Animation(Pink Panther)
Howard Swift - Disney Animation to Sangor Comics Shop
Cal Howard - Disney Animation to WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop
Karran (Kay) Wright - Disney Animation to Sangor Studios, ACG/Nedor, to DC Comics, back to Disney Animation, to own newspaper comic strip (Soapy Waters) to Western Publishing Hanna Barbara/Lants, and mostly Disney Comics, to Filmation Animation
Manny Perez - WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Hanna-Barbara Animation to DePatie-Freeleng Animation
Owen Fitzgerald - Harman-Ising, WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to Dennis The Menace newspaper comic strip
Harris Steinbrook (AKA Steinberg) - Eastern animation studio (Fleischer? Famous?  Van Beuren?) to National/DC to Sangor Comics Shop
Dan Gordon -  Van Beuren Animation Studio, to Paul Terry Studio, to MGM, to Fleischer Studio, to Famous Studios, to Sangor Studio, to Transfilm Studio, to Sutherland Commercial Studio, to            Hanna-Barbara TV Animation
Dan Gormley - Animation?  Van Beuren?  Fletcher?  Terry-Toons Studio?  Comics - Western Printing, (NY) Sangor Studio (NY)? Western Printing (Dell Comics)
Daan Jippes - Dutch Disney Comics to US Disney comic strips to Disney Animation to Dreamworks Animation to Dutch and Danish Disney Comics
Tom McKimson - Disney, Harman-Ising, WB Animation to Western Pub/Dell Comics
Robert McKimson - Disney, Harman-Ising, WB Animation to Western Pub/Dell Comics
Chuck McKimson - Harman-Ising, WB Animation to Western Pub/Dell Comics
Connie Rasinski - Terrytoons and Paramount Animation to St. Johns to Terrytoons Comics to Harvey Comics
Marty Taras - Terrytoons and Paramount Animation to St. Johns to Terrytoons Comics to Harvey Comics to Bakshi Animation
Carlo Vinci - Terrytoons and Paramount Animation to St. Johns Terrytoons Comics
Art Barsch - Terrytoons and Paramount Animation to St. Johns Terrytoons Comics
Tom Golden - Fleischer, Famous, Sangor Studio, Paramount Animation to Harvey Comics
Steve Mufatti - Fleischer, Famous, Paramount Animation to Harvey Comics
Dave Tendlar - Fleischer, Famous, Paramount Animation to Harvey Comics to Columbia(Terrytoons) Animation to Filmation Animation to Hanna-Barbera Animation
Phil Monroe - WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop to UPA Animation to WB Animation to Chuck Jones Animation
Frank Carin - Van Beuren Animation Studio to FleischerStudio, to Timely Comics, to Terrytoons Studio, to Avon Periodicals and Nation-Wide Comics, to Terrytoons Studio, to Western Publishing
Vince Fago - Audio Productions, Jam Handy Animation, to  Fleischer Animation to Timely Comics/Atlas (TerryToons Comics) to Fago Brothers Studio Peter Rabbit Newspaper Comic Strip
Joe Oriolo - Fawcett Comics to Felix The Cat animation to Felix The Cat newspaper comic strip to comic books (Western Pub/Dell) to own Adventure Cartoon Prod.
Tom Baron - WB to Fleischer to Sangor Comics Shop to Hanna-Barbera Animation
Gene Deitch - UPA, Columbia(Terrytoons) Animation to United Features Terrible Thompson comic strip to CBS(NewTerrytoons) Animation
Curt Perkins - Lantz, Disney, WB Animation to Sangor Comics Shop(Creston/ACG and Better/Nedor Comics) to Clampett Studios(Beany & Cecil) to Hanna Barbera Animation
Fawcett Comics
Lu Guarnier- Leon Schlesinger Studio, Warner Brothers Animation to Funnies,Inc. for Lev Gleason Publications, to Film Graphics, to UPA Animation, to Hanna Barbera Animation to Maurice Sendak Studio
Chad Grothkopf - Disney, Fleischer Animation to Toytown Christmas newspaper strip to National/DC Comics to Fawcett Comics, Nedor, United Feature Synd, (Howdy Doody comic strip) to St. Johns Comics (Terrytoons)(Mighty Mouse) to Hanna-Barbara.TV Animation to WB TV Animation
Mike Sekowsky - Timely, Fawcett, Quality, Nedor, St. John, D.C., Atlas, Marvel Comics to Hanna-Barbera TV Animation
Jack Kirby - Timely to DC to Mainline (own company) to Newspaper Comic Strip (Sky Masters) to Atlas Comics to Marvel Comics to Hanna-Barbera Animation
Ed Winiarski - Animation (firm unknown-but Eastern studio -perhaps Fleischer?) to National Comics to Timely Comics to Hillman and Prize Comics to Atlas Comics
Milt Stein - Fleischer Studio, Famous Studios, to Better/Nedor Comics(SuperMouse), to Timely Comics, to DC Comics to Terrytoons Animation(Mighty Mouse), to DC Comics to Rankin/Bass Animation(Return To Oz)
Ben Solomon - Fleischer Animation to Famous Films, to Bailey Comic Book Studio, to Solomon and Gelman Cartoons
Woody Gelman - Fleischer Animation to Famous Films, to Bailey Comic Book Studio, to Solomon and Gelman Cartoons
Orestes Calpini Fleischer Studio to Sangor Studio to Hillman Comics to Famous Studios
Milt Gross - newspaper Comic Strips (New York Journal), animation -John Bray Animation Studio, Universal Studio, MGM, Comic books - ACG (Milt Gross Funnies)
Jack Davis Mark trail Comic Strip, The Saint Comic Strip, Beauregard Comic Strip, to EC Comics, to Mad Magazine, to Panic Magazine, to Cracked Magazine, to Dell Comics (Yak, Yak), to Topps Chewing Gum, Co. to Rankin-Bass Productions (animation)
Etta Parks - Disney Studio '44-'46 (in-betweener), to Dearfield Comics '50-'51(Red Rabbit, Little Buck,Li'l Tinker, various series' front covers) to editorial cartoons for The Texas Observer and Fort Worth Star-Telegram '1954-'2008
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: bowers on October 31, 2019, 06:50:39 PM
Bravo! Thanks for this amazing list- a most excellent reference. Cheers, Bowers
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on October 31, 2019, 11:21:54 PM
Wow! What a great start!
Then there's people who went the other way. I'm no serious expert. But two that went the other way, albeit after the Golden Age, were Alex Toth and Jack Kirby.
Toth had a celebrated career in TV animation,
As outlined in this recent book
Alex Toth: By Design Paperback
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: SuperScrounge on November 01, 2019, 02:31:13 AM
Doug Wildey (Johnny Quest) did both, but I'm not sure which field he started in.

Dave Stevens (The Rocketeer) worked for an animation studio, although I'm not sure if that was before he did any comic work.

I think Mike Sekowsky (Justice League of America's first penciller) was working at the same animation house Wildey and Stevens were at in the 1970s.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on November 01, 2019, 06:02:39 PM
Mike Sekowsky moved to California in the 1980s to work for Hanna-Barbera animated TV shows, such as Scooby-Doo, Space Ghost, Super Friends, and The New Shmoo.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on November 06, 2019, 06:28:08 AM
I've been adding to the list, and will continue to do so, after doing some research.  So come back and check out the list every so often.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on November 06, 2019, 10:39:45 PM
Michael G. Ploog, 'best known for his work on Marvel Comics' 1970s Man-Thing and The Monster of Frankenstein series, and as the initial artist on the features Ghost Rider and Werewolf by Night ' went over into TV and Movie work, Here's his IMDB page. Quite Impressive.
Pity we haven't seen more of his highly individual style in comic books. 

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0687396/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: SuperScrounge on November 06, 2019, 11:51:02 PM
Just remembered an interesting example Winsor McKay. Started off doing early comic strips (Little Nemo etc.) to doing early animation (Gertie the Dinosaur).

A much more recent example.

Fred Perry (Gold Digger, amongst others, for Antarctic) did some animated cartoons (Gold Digger The Time Raft).
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on November 07, 2019, 06:09:52 PM
CHARLES MENGES (1906-1965?)
Animator: Little Hiawatha (1937, Walt Disney). Artist: Eek & Squeak (1946, Pines); funny animals (1946, ACG) thru Sangor Shop.

http://www.bailsprojects.com/whoswho.aspx?mode=AtoZsearch&id=MENGES%2c+CHARLES
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on January 22, 2020, 09:25:34 AM
Periphal to this subject is Comics Creators who worked in Advertising.

This book has just come out.

Comics Ad Men #1

http://www.fantagraphics.com/comics-ad-men/

Cheers!
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 22, 2020, 10:16:02 AM

Periphal to this subject is Comics Creators who worked in Advertising.

This book has just come out.

Comics Ad Men #1

http://www.fantagraphics.com/comics-ad-men/

Cheers!


No surprise!  Especially with kids reading less, all over The World, and watching more animation, comic book sales are dropping, and artists find themselves needing to get jobs in advertising and illustration fields (such as children's books).  But that has ALWAYS  been so for artists, because of the glut of artists who need work - related to the amount of work available.  EVERY friend and work colleague I've had in 37 years in the business, has done advertising and animation work to supplement their income, and usually, they did more of that work during their overall career, than they did actual work on comic books.  But, even the few who did more comic book work than anything else, probably had a higher % of their total income, over the years, come from those other sources, because the pay for comic book work is so low, in comparison to those other fields. 
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on October 02, 2020, 07:34:34 AM
Al Eugster

(https://i.imgur.com/8JqUhHQ.png)

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=EUGSTER%2c+AL

(https://i.imgur.com/gNdorW0.png)

http://web.archive.org/web/20201002063204/http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3AcWAsoh4jIwkJ%3Awww.oocities.org%2Fhollywood%2Fboulevard%2F3131%2Fcomic.html+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

From Frisky Fables #v3#5 (August, 1947):

(https://i.imgur.com/efCl4lB.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on October 02, 2020, 08:21:39 AM
Yes, Jason Art and Al Fago did most of Novelty's "Frisky Fables' artwork. Jason also supplied Lev Gleason, Jamboree. Prize's "Wonderland Comics, Orbit's "Toytown" and "Taffy Comics", some work for Fox Features, and Robert Farrell's Four Star and Star Publications' lines, such as "Hi-Ho Comics", "Kiddie Kapers", "Daffy Tunes", "Holiday Comics", and "Frisky Fables", after he took that line over from Novelty, as well as Harvey's early Funny Animals "Nutty Comics", and "Clown Comics", and Hillman's "Punch & Judy".
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on October 02, 2020, 06:26:10 PM

Yes, Jason Art and Al Fago did most of Novelty's "Frisky Fables' artwork. Jason also supplied Lev Gleason, Jamboree. Prize's "Wonderland Comics, Orbit's "Toytown" and "Taffy Comics", some work for Fox Features, and Robert Farrell's Four Starand Star Publications' lines, such as "Hi-Ho Comics", "Kiddie Kapers", "Daffy Tunes", "Holiday Comics", and "Frisky Fables", after he took that line over from Novelty, as well as Harvey's early Funny Animals "Nutty Comics", and "Clown Comics", and Hillman's "Punch & Judy".


Bails also gave a list of names of people said to have been associated with Jason Comic Art Studio, but I don
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on October 02, 2020, 09:07:07 PM
I have seen the following names from the list before, so I think they are pencilers or inkers:

Gilbert Delgado, David Bryant, Ernest Fillion, Harold Sparaco.  The others may be inkers or letterers.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on October 02, 2020, 09:54:35 PM

I have seen the following names from the list before, so I think they are pencilers or inkers:

Gilbert Delgado, David Bryant, Ernest Fillion, Harold Sparaco.  The others may be inkers or letterers.


Cool! Know any specifics about them or where you heard about them before? Their mention alongside Nutty Comics (presumably Harvey
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on October 02, 2020, 11:48:51 PM


I have seen the following names from the list before, so I think they are pencilers or inkers:

Gilbert Delgado, David Bryant, Ernest Fillion, Harold Sparaco.  The others may be inkers or letterers.


Cool! Know any specifics about them or where you heard about them before? Their mention alongside Nutty Comics (presumably Harvey
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on October 03, 2020, 02:40:00 AM
There are some that go back and forth between Animation and Comic books.
Two that come to mind are Paul Dini who has worked extensively on the Batman Animation properties as well as having drawn and written comics for DC. He also has created characters for the 'Batman Mythos' most notably Harley Quinn, Terrance "Terry" McGinnis/Future Batman and Peyton Riley/The Ventriloquist/Scarface.
https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Paul_Dini

Darwyn Cook had to have been involved in the creation of the Animated version of his ' The New Frontier' but I'm not sure to what extent.

Then again, these lists concentrate on US artists. If we had the information to include UK, European and say, Japanese or other creators, we would have a much larger list.
I also wonder how much input earlier strip creators, like E.C. Segar and Bud Sagendorf [Popeye] had on the animated versions of their properties. I do know that Max Fleishers studio first bought Popeye to the screen.     
Max Fleischer started as a Newspaper cartoonist.
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In 1900 the 17-year old Max Fleischer went to the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was so desperate to become a newspaper cartoonist that he offered the manager two dollars a week, just to be able to visit their art department on a regular basis. While his offer was refused he did get hired as a paper and errand boy. Soon Fleischer moved up to the position of photographer and eventually the job he so desired in the first place: cartoonist.

https://www.lambiek.net/artists/f/fleischer_max.htm

He is most well-known as the creator of the Betty Boop animated cartoons, but his by-line appeared on the Betty Boop strip for quite a few years. I do not know if anybody was ghosting for him.

Huge subject actually!

Cheers!


 
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on October 03, 2020, 02:46:27 AM
Hold the presses!
Just looked more closely at
https://www.lambiek.net/artists/f/fleischer_max.htm

Quote
  In 1927 they signed a contract with Paramount, which would last until 1942. Among the notable people once employed at their studio were Ray Bailey, J.R. Bray, Les Carroll, Shamus Culhane, Arthur Davis, Jim Davis, Tony Di Paola, Irving Dressler, Harvey Eisenberg, Frank Engli, Vincent Fago, Otto Feuer, Owen Fitzgerald, Gill Fox, Woody Gelman, Dan Gordon, Chad Grothkopf, Rube Grossman, Harry Haenigsen, Dick Hall, Cal Howard, Dick Huemer, Jerry Iger, Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, Seymour Kneitel, Tack Knight, Harry Lampert, Edwin Laughlin, Pauline Loth, Steve Muffatti, Joseph Oriolo, Tony Pabian, John Pierotti, Sy Reit, Vivie Risto, Erich F.T. Schenk, Hal Seeger, Isadore Sparber, Irving Spector, Al Stahl, John Stanley, Milt Stein, Martin B. Taras, Frank Tashlin, David Tendlar, Reuben Timmins, Jim Tyer, Myron Waldman, Carl Wessler, Bob Wickersham, Margaret Winkler (who was the first female producer and distributor of animated cartoons), George Wolfe and Ralph A. Wolfe. 

The Descendants of some of those people are active, some at very high level, in Hollywood today.
Incidentally, have you ever stayed for the credits at the end of a modern movie and seen the huge list of names for artists and animators?
Cheers!
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on October 03, 2020, 05:38:46 AM

There are some that go back and forth between Animation and Comic books.
Two that come to mind are Paul Dini who has worked extensively on the Batman Animation properties as well as having drawn and written comics for DC. He also has created characters for the 'Batman Mythos' most notably Harley Quinn, Terrance "Terry" McGinnis/Future Batman and Peyton Riley/The Ventriloquist/Scarface.
https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/Paul_Dini

Darwyn Cook had to have been involved in the creation of the Animated version of his ' The New Frontier' but I'm not sure to what extent.

Then again, these lists concentrate on US artists. If we had the information to include UK, European and say, Japanese or other creators, we would have a much larger list.
I also wonder how much input earlier strip creators, like E.C. Segar and Bud Sagendorf [Popeye] had on the animated versions of their properties. I do know that Max Fleishers studio first bought Popeye to the screen.     
Max Fleischer started as a Newspaper cartoonist.
Quote
In 1900 the 17-year old Max Fleischer went to the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was so desperate to become a newspaper cartoonist that he offered the manager two dollars a week, just to be able to visit their art department on a regular basis. While his offer was refused he did get hired as a paper and errand boy. Soon Fleischer moved up to the position of photographer and eventually the job he so desired in the first place: cartoonist.

https://www.lambiek.net/artists/f/fleischer_max.htm

He is most well-known as the creator of the Betty Boop animated cartoons, but his by-line appeared on the Betty Boop strip for quite a few years. I do not know if anybody was ghosting for him.
Huge subject actually!  Cheers!


As we saw in Lambiek's blurb on The Fleischers, both Max and Dave were cartoon artists - not just businessmen.  Also, the list of their studio artists has just about every animator who worked in The Eastern USA in animation from 1917-1945, at Fleischer's New York Studio, Van Beuren Studio, Fleischer's Miami Studio, and Famous Studios.  Also, many of those artists also drew comic books for Sangor's Studios in New York or Hollywood, or Jason Art in New York, or Baily's Studios in New York, Or Al Fago's Studio, or Louis Ferstadt's Studio in New York, or Comics House, or The Funnies, Inc., in New York, or Western Printing's studio in New York, or the one in Beverly Hills, California.  I'll have to add several names from this list to my list above (that I forgot to list, or thought I already had, but actually didn't), when I get some free time.  When those are added we will have MOST of those from, at least, The Golden Age.  The list above does have a few European (mostly Dutch) artists, peers from my time 1970s-current.

By the way, Lambiek was one of my favourite comic shops from the 1970s-1990s, and The maintainer of Lambiek's Cartoonist list was formerly a story 1st pass (screening) editor for me at Dutch Disney Comics.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on October 04, 2020, 04:53:02 AM
A couple of the rare times Fleischer animator Saul Kessler
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 14, 2020, 01:13:09 AM
Kay Blitz, whom apparently worked as a Fleischer animator and for Sangor Studio in the early 40s, but I don
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: ComicMike on November 14, 2020, 09:04:46 AM


(Exciting Comics #28, August 1943)


Maxie reminds me of Wimpy, from the Popeye comics by Elzie Segar.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 15, 2020, 05:40:55 PM
Arman Williams (Startling Comics #32, March 1945):

(https://i.imgur.com/Qzl6lGi.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 16, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
Don Williams of Disney, Walter Lantz, and Warner Bros. (America's Best Comics #5, April 1943):

(https://i.imgur.com/Rr4WcC4.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 16, 2020, 07:25:21 PM
Thurston Harper of Disney, Famous Studios, and Fleischer (America's Best Comics #14, June 1945):

(https://i.imgur.com/Bz4prwt.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 17, 2020, 01:21:24 AM
Jim F. Davis of Disney, Famous Studios, Fleischer, and Screen Gems (The Black Terror #11, August 1945):

(https://i.imgur.com/YhWuxic.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 17, 2020, 02:51:13 AM
Jack Bradbury of Disney and Warner Bros. (The Black Terror #23, June 1948):

(https://i.imgur.com/uMoXi8p.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 17, 2020, 07:29:54 AM
Manny Perez and Curt Perkins of Warner Bros. (Coo Coo Comics #22, February 1946):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/8a/8a1252e28ccec9ed6db45bb7e67dc998/35.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/8a/8a1252e28ccec9ed6db45bb7e67dc998/42.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 18, 2020, 04:32:21 AM
Art from Goofy Comics #8 (February, 1945) apparently having been drawn by an animator named Gordon Whittier:

(https://i.imgur.com/3ilZROP.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on November 29, 2020, 06:17:34 AM
?Loughlin? from Giggle Comics #15 (December, 1944), who may be Edwin Loughlin (or even Edwin Laughlin), and may have also been an animator:

(https://i.imgur.com/lWo2HBY.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 01, 2020, 09:22:26 AM
Ha Ha Comics #5, featuring W. Henning, who?s probably William Henning, the Popeye animator:

(https://i.imgur.com/hYBVz23.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on December 01, 2020, 05:06:35 PM
IMDb has animator credits for Gordon Whittier from 1938 to 1976.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0926513/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 07, 2020, 07:03:48 AM
Sam Weissman, whom I only found out was an animator at Fleischer Studios through his online obituary:

(https://i.imgur.com/g00aX6I.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/eMtMk6k.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/EE2l8hc.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/YZiw4Sp.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/e6jo2ji.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/K18r3GF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bnuKsbx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/j65GxrF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iTWnasA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xFZa6bE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZtbI1j9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Iwci2e3.jpg)

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/northjersey/obituary.aspx?n=sam-weissman&pid=87731747
http://www.ltolman.org/fein.htm
http://www.ltolman.org/sturman-50th-IDs.htm
http://www.ltolman.org/samweissman.htm
https://www.comics.org/penciller/name/Sam%20weissman/sort/chrono/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 07, 2020, 08:24:17 AM
I can see that Sam Weissman had a lot of versatility, using various styles.  But drawing a frog with 8 arms to be an "octopus"???   Easy to see he ditched the zoo class in art school!!!   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 07, 2020, 09:13:35 AM

I can see that Sam Weissman had a lot of versatility, using various styles.  But drawing a frog with 8 arms to be an "octopus"???   Easy to see he ditched the zoo class in art school!!!   ;D ;D ;D


And had at least one identifiable recurrence in his art. He often liked to draw hands flexed out and being shaken around as if to reinforce the energy of a scene.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on December 07, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
Quote
  He often liked to draw hands flexed out and being shaken around as if to reinforce the energy of a scene.


and all wearing white gloves.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Captain Audio on December 07, 2020, 05:19:12 PM

I can see that Sam Weissman had a lot of versatility, using various styles.  But drawing a frog with 8 arms to be an "octopus"???   Easy to see he ditched the zoo class in art school!!!   ;D ;D ;D


The dreaded Australian OctoFrog. Ten thousand Australians and tourist are killed by these every year. Other than the deceptively cute carnivorous Fairy Wren the most dangerous creature living there.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 08, 2020, 04:39:46 AM

Hold the presses!
Just looked more closely at
https://www.lambiek.net/artists/f/fleischer_max.htm

Quote
  In 1927 they signed a contract with Paramount, which would last until 1942. Among the notable people once employed at their studio were Ray Bailey, J.R. Bray, Les Carroll, Shamus Culhane, Arthur Davis, Jim Davis, Tony Di Paola, Irving Dressler, Harvey Eisenberg, Frank Engli, Vincent Fago, Otto Feuer, Owen Fitzgerald, Gill Fox, Woody Gelman, Dan Gordon, Chad Grothkopf, Rube Grossman, Harry Haenigsen, Dick Hall, Cal Howard, Dick Huemer, Jerry Iger, Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, Seymour Kneitel, Tack Knight, Harry Lampert, Edwin Laughlin, Pauline Loth, Steve Muffatti, Joseph Oriolo, Tony Pabian, John Pierotti, Sy Reit, Vivie Risto, Erich F.T. Schenk, Hal Seeger, Isadore Sparber, Irving Spector, Al Stahl, John Stanley, Milt Stein, Martin B. Taras, Frank Tashlin, David Tendlar, Reuben Timmins, Jim Tyer, Myron Waldman, Carl Wessler, Bob Wickersham, Margaret Winkler (who was the first female producer and distributor of animated cartoons), George Wolfe and Ralph A. Wolfe. 

The Descendants of some of those people are active, some at very high level, in Hollywood today.
Incidentally, have you ever stayed for the credits at the end of a modern movie and seen the huge list of names for artists and animators?
Cheers!


I ALWAYS do - to see if there are people I know and with whom I've worked (and I did on 4 films to look for my own name.  I worked on 4 cartoon feature films from Hanna-Barbera Feature Animation, Turner Feature Animation and Warner Brothers Feature Animation, from 1995-2000.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 08, 2020, 05:00:27 AM
Lu Guarnier:

(https://i.imgur.com/wk5yQoF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/wxfRWKv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/TlAwAS6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SKKVoC9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YKDNoYD.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/IUod8MJ.jpg)

https://www.comics.org/penciller/name/Guarnier/sort/chrono/

https://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/?p=1332

https://www.whataboutthad.com/2010/08/31/repost-1938-clampett-unit-photo/

https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/a-chat-with-lu-guarnier/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 08, 2020, 05:56:07 AM

Arman Williams (Startling Comics #32, March 1945):
(https://i.imgur.com/Qzl6lGi.jpg)


A shellless (an English word with 3 consecutive letter Ls!!!) turtle????  Are they like hermit crabs - they scrounge for larger shells from bigger turtles who shed them???  ;D ;D ;D

I can't think of another artist that drew shellless turtle characters.  But that's not a big surprise,becaus funny animal artists know about animals, and Startling Comics wasn't exactly a funny animal comic book.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 08, 2020, 08:06:42 AM
Ken Landau:

Out of the Night #14 (April, 1954):

(https://i.imgur.com/0ouq2TJ.jpg)

Forbidden Worlds #29 (May, 1954):

(https://i.imgur.com/dmRYFwd.jpg)

Adventures into the Unknown #60 (November, 1954):

(https://i.imgur.com/H7CHlH3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/eLppzYT.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/zugewKB.png)

https://www.kennethlandau.com/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 26, 2020, 10:10:17 AM
Sam Singer:

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/56/561b856551d05334cd544587e41633b2/0.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/2a/2af6e4b6b7b9ec7ac752a1eb360f6e5f/0.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/13/13b91a96d52270731c0245526f918263/40.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/44/44f6e804b7b7f0384c12052d7d3f0d06/26.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/07/07e65a959899d5f402f7e1e60ea883f2/34.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/eb/eb611a7a878b6b4fdd65464fbee1d46b/38.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/db/dbb3388e35766bc5f42ef1dc7d97950c/37.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on December 26, 2020, 04:43:05 PM
Sam Singer (1912 - 2001) was the executive producer of Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse, created by Bob Kane as a funny animal parody of his earlier creation, Batman and Robin.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 26, 2020, 08:19:26 PM

Sam Singer:

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/56/561b856551d05334cd544587e41633b2/0.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/2a/2af6e4b6b7b9ec7ac752a1eb360f6e5f/0.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/44/44f6e804b7b7f0384c12052d7d3f0d06/26.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/07/07e65a959899d5f402f7e1e60ea883f2/34.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/eb/eb611a7a878b6b4fdd65464fbee1d46b/38.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/db/dbb3388e35766bc5f42ef1dc7d97950c/37.jpg)

Singer had a really old style, reminiscent of the 1930s.  I really like his Monkeyshines covers, especially with all the bright colours.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 26, 2020, 11:10:41 PM


Sam Singer:

Singer had a really old style, reminiscent of the 1930s.  I really like his Monkeyshines covers, especially with all the bright colours.


Singer had a bulbous, yet energetic sort of style. He liked to draw animals with big snouts or chubby cheeks, and rarely drew short characters unless they were children, yet that didn?t seem to hinder the flexibility of how his characters moved at all.

Of all the Sangor Studio artists I?ve seen, the one I felt had the most old-school feeling was probably Tony Loeb. I?ve understood that Sangor Studio was largely made up of artists that had worked at Fleischer Studios, and Loeb may have been the artist that embraced the Fleischer a style the most, drawing characters as if they were in the early 1930?s as opposed to the mid-1940s.

Bimbo from Fleischer, an early 30s character which Loeb?s style reminded me of:
(https://i.ibb.co/vkgT4KD/410-CBE3-D-9787-41-B8-A647-C0-A762-E97-CB8.gif)

Loeb?s art:

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/de/deb7bf2995125a61edc12b2fdf144346/2.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/52/526c5e25cc1cf262f69d96bfc0c96c28/8.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/82/82fa9466fba9a9bac9c8c4af6597ae63/26.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/a7/a7a1d61d07761900191161df59429520/21.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/48/48942d35c75349a0a7e03e2be9e1a21d/8.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: crashryan on December 26, 2020, 11:17:31 PM
What's going on in that first Monkeyshines cover? The kid (apparently smitten with the teacher) seems to be giving her a coconut with a winking face on it. The other kids are laughing at him but the teacher seems charmed. Or jjust amused? The kid is turned away with his eyes closed (because he's bashful?) but he's also licking his lips as if thinking of something tasty, like maybe the other apples. I am baffled.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on December 27, 2020, 02:31:59 AM
Quote
What's going on in that first Monkeyshines cover?

Also, the Monkey has a knot in his tail and also his left hand [almost hidden] seems to be in motion.

One end of a coconut, after husking, does accurately resemble a human face.

Puts me in mind of the song, which would have been well known then,
'I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts'
I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts - Billy Cotton Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEngcdLlVQ 

Best known currently as sung in the Lion King. Also Monty Python did it and on some sites the song is erroneously credited to Python.

Lets just say that the lyrics lead themselves to more than one interpretation.
Probably also an in-joke. I have begun to realize as an adult, that there can be a lot going on in 'children's' comics, TV shows and entertainment which is meant for adults and is unlikely to be interpreted by Children. 
     
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 27, 2020, 02:59:55 AM

Quote
What's going on in that first Monkeyshines cover?

Also, the Monkey has a knot in his tail and also his left hand [almost hidden] seems to be in motion.

One end of a coconut, after husking, does accurately resemble a human face.

Puts me in mind of the song, which would have been well known then,
'I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts'
I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts - Billy Cotton Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAEngcdLlVQ 

Best known currently as sung in the Lion King. Also Monty Python did it and on some sites the song is erroneously credited to Python.

Lets just say that the lyrics lead themselves to more than one interpretation.
Probably also an in-joke. I have begun to realize as an adult, that there can be a lot going on in 'children's' comics, TV shows and entertainment which is meant for adults and is unlikely to be interpreted by Children. 

Yes!  Warner Brothers was especially known for that.  But MGM and Fleischer had their moments, as well.  Disney frowned on that, and it was cut out whenever noticed by higher-ups.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 27, 2020, 03:39:01 AM



Sam Singer:

Singer had a really old style, reminiscent of the 1930s.  I really like his Monkeyshines covers, especially with all the bright colours.


Singer had a bulbous, yet energetic sort of style. He liked to draw animals with big snouts or chubby cheeks, and rarely drew short characters unless they were children, yet that didn?t seem to hinder the flexibility of how his characters moved at all.

Of all the Sangor Studio artists I?ve seen, the one I felt had the most old-school feeling was probably Tony Loeb. I've understood that Sangor Studio was largely made up of artists that had worked at Fleischer Studios, and Loeb may have been the artist that embraced the Fleischer a style the most, drawing characters as if they were in the early 1930?s as opposed to the mid-1940s.

Bimbo from Fleischer, an early 30s character which Loeb?s style reminded me of:
(https://i.ibb.co/vkgT4KD/410-CBE3-D-9787-41-B8-A647-C0-A762-E97-CB8.gif) 


It was true that most of Sangor Studio East's artists and writers were from Fleischer's in 1941 when they started, other than Jim Davis, Jack Bradbury, and Irv Spector.  But, when Davis planned to return to L.A. in early 1942, he made a deal with Ben Sangor to open a West Coast Branch of Sangor's studio, by lining up a bevy of ex-Disney, MGM, WB, and even a couple of Lantz animators, who agreed to jump ship or moonlight for Sangor in L.A.  Bradbury and Spector moved west, along with Davis.  Animators like Ken Hultgren, Ken Champin, Bob Wickersham, Lynn Karp, Don R. Christensen, ex-animator Bob Taliaferro, Kin Platt, and many more were added.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: crashryan on December 27, 2020, 05:15:31 AM
Even at Disney it took a while for the stricter attitude to become the norm. I'm thinking of fart jokes using a backfiring car and a cartoon ending where Cupid draws the curtains on a loving couple, then turns his naked butt to the camera. The butt then metamorphoses into a heart.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on December 27, 2020, 07:52:09 AM



Sam Singer:

Singer had a really old style, reminiscent of the 1930s.  I really like his Monkeyshines covers, especially with all the bright colours.


Singer had a bulbous, yet energetic sort of style. He liked to draw animals with big snouts or chubby cheeks, and rarely drew short characters unless they were children, yet that didn?t seem to hinder the flexibility of how his characters moved at all.

Of all the Sangor Studio artists I?ve seen, the one I felt had the most old-school feeling was probably Tony Loeb. I've understood that Sangor Studio was largely made up of artists that had worked at Fleischer Studios, and Loeb may have been the artist that embraced the Fleischer a style the most, drawing characters as if they were in the early 1930?s as opposed to the mid-1940s. 


Most of Sangor's early New York studio crew came from Fleischer's studio.  But, in early 1942, When Jim Davis, who had come to New York a year before, to work for Sangor during the Disney strike, returned to Hollywood to set up Sangor's West Coast studio, many ex-Disney, MGM, and Warner Brothers animators were hired.  But, in addition to Davis, Jack Bradbury, and Irv Spector had worked at Sangor East, before returning to California when Davis started Sangor West.  In California, Preston Blair, Ken Hultgren, Ken Champin, Lynn, Hubie, and Bob Karp, Don R. Christensen, Bob Wickersham, etc. all signed on with Sangor.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on December 28, 2020, 10:10:24 AM
(http://www.reuben.org/ncs/members/memorium/oriolo.jpg)

(http://www.reuben.org/ncs/members/memorium/rasinski.jpg)

(http://www.reuben.org/ncs/members/memorium/sagendorf.jpg)

(http://www.reuben.org/ncs/members/memorium/taras.jpg)

(http://www.reuben.org/ncs/members/memorium/tendlar.jpg)

Source: https://www.nationalcartoonists.com/members/in-memoriam/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 12, 2021, 02:16:53 AM
John Jordan may have been an animator by 1953, because one newspaper mentioned him working on animation:

John Jordan, one of the Major
League cartoonists in the nation,
will now Illustrate the adventures
of Don Winslow. Jordan has an
enviable art career which includes
several years as editorial cartoon
ist on the New York Journal and
art director for one of the coun
trys largest comic book compan
ies. Highlighting his career re
cently, he was signed by Holly
wood to draw several popular ani
mated motion pictures.
Bringing his exceptional back
ground to newspapers, Jordan's
authentic, dear, modern art adds
lustre to the new Don Winslow all
service comic strip. - https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83016244/1953-07-01/ed-1/seq-2/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 18, 2021, 04:44:20 AM
Roscoe from Feature Comics #101 (August 1946, Quality Comics). Not sure who drew it, though I?m inclined to say it was an animator.

(https://i.ibb.co/82511JR/4-EC7-A9-F2-D4-B8-4-EB4-BAF5-B196-E2109-A93.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 18, 2021, 11:46:13 AM

Roscoe from Feature Comics #101 (August 1946, Quality Comics. Not sure who drew it, though I?m inclined to say it was an animator.

(https://i.ibb.co/82511JR/4-EC7-A9-F2-D4-B8-4-EB4-BAF5-B196-E2109-A93.jpg)


Yes, he was an animator, who had worked for Fleischer and Famous Studios, Ben Solomon.  He worked on Popeye and Gullivers Travels at Fleischer, and Popeye, under Jim Tyer for Famous Studios.  He worked on several different comic book series for Quality, and had worked for Hillman on Punch and Judy, and worked earlier for Bailey as a free lancer.  He and Woody Gelman had worked together at those 2 animation studios, and after the strike, they formed their own cartoon studio, Solomon-Gelman Cartoon Studio.  They later drew all the comic artwork for Topps Sports Cards, including Bazooka Joe.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 18, 2021, 11:24:21 PM


Roscoe from Feature Comics #101 (August 1946, Quality Comics. Not sure who drew it, though I?m inclined to say it was an animator.

(https://i.ibb.co/82511JR/4-EC7-A9-F2-D4-B8-4-EB4-BAF5-B196-E2109-A93.jpg)


Yes, he was an animator, who had worked for Fleischer and Famous Studios, Ben Solomon.  He worked on Popeye and Gullivers Travels at Fleischer, and Popeye, under Jim Tyer for famous Studios.  He worked on several different comic book series for Quality, and had worked for Hillman on Punch and Judy, and worked earlier for Bailey as a free lancer.  He and Woody Gelman had worked together at those 2 animation studios, and after the strike, they formed their own cartoon studio, Solomon-Gelman Cartoon Studio.  They later drew all the comic artwork for Topps Sports Cards, including Bazooka Joe.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 19, 2021, 12:45:23 AM
Some possible animators with partial names from some of the earlier Sangor material that I just couldn?t identify. I think I mentioned all of these before, but might as well mention them all here:

Naish (Coo Coo Comics #5, May 1943):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/e7/e7e8a689bf0bd8238bced98aedf6180e/43.jpg)

Smith (Giggle Comics #3, December 1943):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/17/17b1fc80fa12f1b4456f05d6d090e875/27.jpg)

Loughlin (Giggle Comics #8, May 1944):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5d84a30149b759ce0beb2d8db0230b98/25.jpg)

Big Shorty (Coo Coo Comics #13, September 1944):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/78/78e3b74d4fae2ec4cdb223eebc91f5b9/32.jpg)

JFL, possibly Jim Logan (Goofy Comics #15, August 1946):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/af/af62a6cf6f52b30dcb1b4cbbd045a14f/42.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 19, 2021, 05:45:38 AM

Some possible animators with partial names from some of the earlier Sangor material that I just couldn?t identify. I think I mentioned all of these before, but might as well mention them all here:

Naish (Coo Coo Comics #5, May 1943):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/e7/e7e8a689bf0bd8238bced98aedf6180e/43.jpg)

Smith (Giggle Comics #3, December 1943):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/17/17b1fc80fa12f1b4456f05d6d090e875/27.jpg)

Loughlin (Giggle Comics #8, May 1944):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5d84a30149b759ce0beb2d8db0230b98/25.jpg)

Big Shorty (Coo Coo Comics #13, September 1944):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/78/78e3b74d4fae2ec4cdb223eebc91f5b9/32.jpg)

JFL, possibly Jim Logan (Goofy Comics #15, August 1946):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/af/af62a6cf6f52b30dcb1b4cbbd045a14f/42.jpg)


1) There was a Tom O'Loughlin, who worked for Disney, WB animation, Hanna-Barbera and DePatie-Freleng, among others.  I'm pretty sure he went by Tom Loughlin while with Sangor.  But, the name is written without the "H", as Louglin on Sangor's records. 

Personally, I'd go with Tom O'Loughlin of Disney and WB, probably recruited to Sangor by Jim Davis, as were most of the West Coast artists who worked for Sangor.  And the missing H was just a typo.

2) Yes, Logan must have been Jim Logan.  HE was the only artist named Logan with Sangor. 

3) I have seen reference to Naish, but never seen a first name attached. 

4) "Smith" was E.F. Smith,  whose full name was Edward Frank Smith, who worked for The Fleischers from 1934-1942.  He worked on their 1938-39 feature, Gulliver's Travels.  He went by the name, Frank Smith, after leaving Sangor Studio, where he worked from 1943-44.  After more comic book work in the mid and possibly late 1940s (maybe for another of the NY studios ....Bailey's, Jason, Ferstadt, Fago or Cartoon Art?) he returned to animation in 1950, working for UPA on Gerald McBoingBoing, Mr. Magoo, and other Film shorts and TV series, then, after that, he worked for more than 10 years on most of the Peanuts TV specials and TV Films.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 19, 2021, 06:43:57 PM
1. Thanks. I heard it suggested that the Loughlin is Fiction House artist Edwin Laughlin using a slightly different last name, but didn?t associate with animation as far as I know. It referring to Tom O?Loughlin seems like the more realistic outcome.

2. I was unsure, because I tried looking up Jim Logan, but his middle name was apparently ?Joseph? in constraint to the ?JFL.?:

https://billiongraves.com/grave/James-Joseph-Logan/1830395

3. I couldn?t narrow it down, because I kept getting ?J. Carrol Naish? whom I haven?t seen noted as an animation-styled artist.

4. There was separately credited Edward Smith and Frank Smith for Gulliver?s Travels. Are they just different credits for the same person?:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031397/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: crashryan on January 19, 2021, 07:15:50 PM
I would really like to know how you came up with J. Carrol Naish, noted actor, in searching for animators.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 19, 2021, 07:38:13 PM

I would really like to know how you came up with J. Carrol Naish, noted actor, in searching for animators.


(https://i.ibb.co/M86wzpB/2-F66573-B-FCB9-41-A9-A500-523-A042-A6506.png)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on January 19, 2021, 07:49:48 PM
Could the mysterious Naish (of no first name) be a woman -- Gladys Naish, J. Carrol's wife???
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 20, 2021, 05:10:54 AM

1. Thanks. I heard it suggested that the Loughlin is Fiction House artist Edwin Laughlin using a slightly different last name, but didn?t associate with animation as far as I know. It referring to Tom O?Loughlin seems like the more realistic outcome.

2. I was unsure, because I tried looking up Jim Logan, but his middle name was apparently ?Joseph? in constraint to the ?JFL.?:

https://billiongraves.com/grave/James-Joseph-Logan/1830395

3. I couldn?t narrow it down, because I kept getting ?J. Carrol Naish? whom I haven?t seen noted as an animation-styled artist.

4. There was separately credited Edward Smith and Frank Smith for Gulliver?s Travels. Are they just different credits for the same person?:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0031397/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm



3) Smith was the most common surname in USA during the 1930s through the 1950s.  Only 2 artists working on Gulliver's Travels.  What are the odds that those 2 men had EXACTLY the SAME 2 names as Edward Frank Smith had as he first 2 names, BOTH of which he used as his FIRST name, during substantial parts of his career?  Pretty unlikely, ehh?  It is more likely that the film record keepers (paymaster clerk) made an error, which happened frequently in those days (as it does today).  However, that doesn't guarantee that it was just a coincidence, and there WERE 2 different animators one each of whom had one of Edward Frank's first 2 names.  Stranger things have happened.

4) It is EXTREMELY unlikely that J. Carrol Naish, the highly acclaimed, busy, heavy-scheduled actor, who had started acting in feature films in the 1920s, was supplementing his income by drawing comic books in the 1940s, while he was also working on 3-4 films per year (or more).
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 21, 2021, 06:05:31 AM
Other comic artists said to have been animators:

Lee Ames

Charles Payne

Phil Bard

Mike Roy

Charles Biro

George Gordon

Mike Arens

George Marcoux

Joe Certa

Orestes Calpini

Roger Armstrong

Pete Alvarado

Paul Sommer

Irv Spence

Rod Scribner

Milt Gross

H. C. Ellison

Chase Craig

Fred Abranz

Walt Scott

Win Smith

Julius Svendsen
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Andrew999 on January 21, 2021, 09:58:42 AM
Bizarrely, I've just been working my way through the New Adventures of Charlie Chan - most of them available on YouTube with Naish in the lead role - they are surprisingly good. Oddly, after the first five episodes, the series was shot in London.

What a multi-talented guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Carrol_Naish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJjsYxYV0tU&list=PLvhDQrzlDlRNt6BxnqxPL_kYgLfY1O5yJ
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on January 21, 2021, 11:22:58 AM
Quote
Bizarrely, I've just been working my way through the New Adventures of Charlie Chan - most of them available on YouTube with Naish in the lead role

Crash, that's called serendipity.
Quote
Serendipity is an unplanned fortunate discovery.

Thanks for the link, i will watch some tonight . 

Cheers!
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on January 21, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
https://alberto-s-pages.webnode.it/animators-until-1970/t-u/

SMITH, Edward F. (Ed)
Animator: DISNEY c33/39-41 (Silly Symphony 33-34 [The Night Before Christmas 33, Funny Little Bunnies 34]); FLEISCHER c39 (Gulliver?s Travels 39); STORYBOARD, INC./HUBLEY 50s-60s (Tender Game 58, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass Double Feature 66); INK TANK 77- -90s (No Room at the Inn 78, TV commercials [MTV 89]); NEWHALL-YOHE c79-80 (Drawing Power 80-81)

SMITH, Francis Charles (Frank) (6 Mar 1928-Feb 1986)
Animator: HARMAN-ISING c36-38 (Silly Symphony 38 [Merbabies ? for DISNEY]); FLEISCHER c38-39 (Gulliver?s Travels 39); LANTZ c40-43/46-49 (Woody Woodpecker, Andy Panda); UPA c50-57 (Gerald McBoing Boing 51-56 [Gerald McBoing-Boing 50, Gerald McBoing-Boing?s Symphony 53, How Now Boing Boing 54, Gerald McBoing-Boing on Planet Moo 56], Mr. Magoo 51/57 [Barefaced Flatfoot 51, Magoo?s Masquerade 57, Magoo?s Private War 57], Jolly Frolics 51-52 [Georgie and the Dragon 51, The Wonder Gloves 51, The Oompahs 52, Madeline 52], Little Boy with a Big Horn 53, Christopher Crumpet 53/55 [Christopher Crumpet 53, Christopher Crumpet?s Playmate 55], Ballet-Oop 54, Fudget?s Budget 54, The Jaywalker 56); SAUL BASS c58-62 (It?s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World 63 [animated head titles]); PLAYHOUSE PICTURES c63-64 (TV Commercials [Guinness Clock, Gibbs, Murphy Richards, The New Morris]); MELENDEZ c65-73 (A Charlie Brown Christmas 65, Charlie Brown All Stars! 66, It?s the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown 66, He?s Your Dog Charlie Brown 68, It Was a Short Summer Charlie Brown 69, A Boy Named Charlie Brown 69, Play It Again Charlie Brown 71, Snoopy Come Home 72, You?re Not Elected Charlie Brown 72, It?s a Mystery Charlie Brown 74)

NOTE: DISNEY Overseas Comic Book Program 72-76 (Donald Duck); DISNEY newspaper strip artist 73-86 (Donald Duck)

Maggiori informazioni https://alberto-s-pages.webnode.it/animators-until-1970/t-u/

*****
Alberto Beccatini may have made a mistake with his credits for SMITH, Francis Charles (Frank).
If Mr. Smith was indeed born in 1928, it would be highly unlikely that he had animation credits as early as 1936. He would have been only 8 years old!!!
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on January 21, 2021, 01:33:47 PM
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Smith_(animator)

Frank Smith (animator)

Frank A. Smith (August 31, 1911 ? February 23, 1975) was an American cartoon animator and film director. He was the father of actor and film director Charles Martin Smith, and the brother of animator/director Paul J. Smith and animator Hank Smith.
Biography

Born in Gladstone, Michigan, Smith left home in his teens with the dream of working in films. Not having any money, he made his way across country to Hollywood by hitching rides illegally on freight trains. After some time of living as a hobo, he finally reached Hollywood in 1930.

Smith eventually was hired on as an animator at the Fleischer Studios in the late 1930s. He worked on several feature films with that studio, including Gulliver's Travels (1939) and various short films including Popeye cartoons and Betty Boop. He then joined UPA studios, working alongside Robert Cannon, John Hubley and others. His films at UPA included the Oscar-winning Gerald McBoing-Boing (1951).

For three years Smith directed and produced films in Paris, France, for Cineaste Productions, winning many awards. His work in the 1960s included commercials and short films for Playhouse Pictures, followed by a long association with director/producer Bill Melendez, animating many of the Peanuts television specials including A Charlie Brown Christmas, It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown and the feature films A Boy Named Charlie Brown and Snoopy Come Home.

External links
Frank Smith on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808225/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 21, 2021, 07:13:49 PM
Thanks for the link mopee. Didnt know that Witmer Williams, an artist Ive grown to appreciate after seeing his Quality Comics work, was a Disney animator from the late 1930s to 1942.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Andrew999 on January 23, 2021, 07:54:12 AM
Just stumbled across this which I thought might be of interest to readers of this thread - forgive me if it's already been mentioned:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52580366-wild-minds

Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 24, 2021, 09:12:37 AM

What's going on in that first Monkeyshines cover? The kid (apparently smitten with the teacher) seems to be giving her a coconut with a winking face on it. The other kids are laughing at him but the teacher seems charmed. Or jjust amused? The kid is turned away with his eyes closed (because he's bashful?) but he's also licking his lips as if thinking of something tasty, like maybe the other apples. I am baffled.


Singer did that with Mayor Monk from America?s Funniest Comics as well. Not sure why, but he liked to draw monkey in an especially bulbous manner, sometimes with their tongue sticking out less out of perversion and more out of looking dopey. I suppose monkeys are a great way to show funny weirdness in general as far as funny animal art went.

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/37/376a853a1adefb69dd801335c6bea49f/9.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 27, 2021, 10:47:17 AM
Anyways, was looking at comparison of Ben Solomon?s signed art to a lot of the non-Ernie Hart, unsigned funny animal art from Quality Comics, and while maybe I?d have to compare more, I?ve been starting to suspect that quite a bit of the art had been drawn by animator William Pattengill.

Pattengill?s signed art from Ha Ha Comics #2 (November 1943):

(https://i.ibb.co/Tq9xZk7/9-B53724-F-89-E6-4044-922-C-B9-EBC9-F04808.jpg)

The unsigned art from Crack Comics #37 (Spring 1945), featuring a similarly drawn native and a similar design philosophy of the bears:

(https://i.ibb.co/KzXQZ3L/50-D037-DB-732-E-49-C5-A1-C0-EC20-F9197641.jpg)

It especially stuck out since the previous issue featured a dog character which seemed similar to other dog characters in some 1946 funny animal art, in addition to Roscoe:

The dog character from Crack Comics #36:

(https://i.ibb.co/vk6JL24/8475-DAA8-0-E03-4-CD8-BCF7-FE6-AEF65-B537.jpg)

Mickey the Moocher:

(https://i.ibb.co/ckk1qZY/440-D13-CE-2-F18-4-F2-F-86-A4-FFF1-E54-C28-EF.jpg)

Sad Sam Skunk:

(https://i.ibb.co/zhR6TSH/8388672-B-3-FED-4-F03-9-EBA-5-F9-A40-EA873-D.jpg)

Rollo Raccoon:

(https://i.ibb.co/VmWzmrk/B566047-C-2289-44-EC-B288-95-E3658590-F0.jpg)

Giddy Goose:

(https://i.ibb.co/gDfwpjF/32-ACDBC0-4-E66-4991-BF3-C-019-AB78-F9138.jpg)

The last one in particular leads me to think whichever artist drew this also drew for EC, in addition to being quite prolific, because the goat character and the general design of hair seems similar to the goat character and hair on the fawn from Animal Fables #1 (July 1946):

(https://i.ibb.co/4gqL1NN/5-BEC0569-3-FD4-4784-9-D32-B39-BCBB398-DE.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 27, 2021, 11:14:41 PM

Anyways, was looking at comparison of Ben Solomon?s signed art to a lot of the non-Ernie Hart, unsigned funny animal art from Quality Comics, and while maybe I?d have to compare more, I?ve been starting to suspect that quite a bit of the art had been drawn by animator William Pattengill.

Pattengill?s signed art from Ha Ha Comics #2 (November 1943):

(https://i.ibb.co/Tq9xZk7/9-B53724-F-89-E6-4044-922-C-B9-EBC9-F04808.jpg)

The unsigned art from Crack Comics #37 (Spring 1945), featuring a similarly drawn native and a similar design philosophy of the bears:
It especially stuck out since the previous issue featured a dog character which seemed similar to other dog characters in some 1946 funny animal art, in addition to Roscoe:

The dog character from Crack Comics #36:
Mickey the Moocher:
Sad Sam Skunk:
Rollo Raccoon:
Giddy Goose:
The last one in particular leads me to think whichever artist drew this also drew for EC, in addition to being quite prolific, because the goat character and the general design of hair seems similar to the goat character and hair on the fawn from Animal Fables #1 (July 1946):


Your theory that the goat character artist might be Pattengill looks possible.  Although Ernie Hart was Quality's number 1 and only full-time funny animal artist, and Ben Solomon was their only other regular funny animal artists, they did use some other Jason artists during the early mid 1940s, like Milt Stein, and also used a couple Sangor artists sporadically (which could have included Pattengill.  The latter's art looks suspiciously like one of the EC funny animal artists, as you stated above.  I think he also may have drawn a few funny animal stories for Ace's Monkeyshines and Scream, as well.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 28, 2021, 04:22:14 AM
Your theory that the goat character artist might be Pattengill looks possible.


It was also suggested to me animator Don Patterson having drawn them based on the Phineas the Great art from Ha Ha Comics #11, but somehow I dont think Patterson would have gone by as *E. D. Pat,* with his full name, in so far as I know, being *Donald W. Patterson.* With the art looking so similar to Pattengills Phineas the Great art from the previous year, I get the feeling that *Pat* could refer to Pattengill, while *E. D.* could be either the writer or inker, possibly Ed Dunn.

(https://i.ibb.co/f4htZdV/29-AB425-B-37-A8-4-D5-A-889-F-38-C5-CAF4648-A.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 28, 2021, 05:38:08 AM

Your theory that the goat character artist might be Pattengill looks possible.


It was also suggested to me animator Don Patterson having drawn them based on the Phineas the Great art from Ha Ha Comics #11, but somehow I dont think Patterson would have gone by as *E. D. Pat,* with his full name, in so far as I know, being *Donald W. Patterson.* With the art looking so similar to Pattengills Phineas the Great art from the previous year, I get the feeling that *Pat* could refer to Pattengill, while *E. D.* could be either the writer or inker, possibly Ed Dunn.

(https://i.ibb.co/f4htZdV/29-AB425-B-37-A8-4-D5-A-889-F-38-C5-CAF4648-A.jpg)


I think I remember Ed Dunn signing some stories as "E.D.".  But that Phineas page doesn't look like Dunn's drawing style.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on January 28, 2021, 05:17:18 PM
Allan G. Benedict is another animator who dabbled in comic books thru the Ben Sangor Studio:
http://www.bailsprojects.com/whoswho.aspx?mode=AtoZsearch&id=BENEDICT%2c+ALLAN
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 28, 2021, 07:03:02 PM
Anyways, animators I think drew for Circus Comics #2 (June 1945):

Larry Riley:

(https://i.ibb.co/H40pX9L/EDD4-C120-AFBE-4-D7-A-8-F2-C-F7-D3-EA46-BFE9.jpg)

Bill Hudson:

(https://i.ibb.co/D4G6YzN/89-CD444-F-20-CC-4456-9319-AFA7-A0-B87-FAC.jpg)

Al Pross:

(https://i.ibb.co/GP6Wbrd/3-A6-DE43-F-09-E6-4344-9-BD6-7491-CBD00-ADD.jpg)

Don?t have a specific animator for this one, though it looks familiar:

(https://i.ibb.co/N792rYR/D8940900-6-D4-F-4-F6-F-93-CD-D37-E69-CF0898.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 28, 2021, 10:51:01 PM

Anyways, animators I think drew for Circus Comics #2 (June 1945):

Larry Riley:

(https://i.ibb.co/H40pX9L/EDD4-C120-AFBE-4-D7-A-8-F2-C-F7-D3-EA46-BFE9.jpg)

Bill Hudson:

(https://i.ibb.co/D4G6YzN/89-CD444-F-20-CC-4456-9319-AFA7-A0-B87-FAC.jpg)

Al Pross:

(https://i.ibb.co/GP6Wbrd/3-A6-DE43-F-09-E6-4344-9-BD6-7491-CBD00-ADD.jpg)

Don?t have a specific animator for this one, though it looks familiar:

(https://i.ibb.co/N792rYR/D8940900-6-D4-F-4-F6-F-93-CD-D37-E69-CF0898.jpg)


Typical Jason style.  Riley worked for Sangor for a while, too.  While with Jason, he also worked for Ace.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 28, 2021, 11:13:55 PM


Typical Jason style.  Riley worked for Sangor for a while, too.  While with Jason, he also worked for Ace.


Riley also appears to have drawn for Candy Comics, Cryin' Lion Comics, and Nutty Comics, considering how he draws vibrations, hands, and the chubbiness on some characters.

(https://i.ibb.co/3hxN6pM/ED20-D60-F-29-B8-4-E7-E-843-A-AF45-AD5-B7-EAA.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/mhhVqN1/268-A9420-9189-4-F15-A458-9-B284783-C13-E.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/G9DmPmk/6-AFA1-A9-F-7041-45-A1-9-F84-78-B653-C8809-E.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 29, 2021, 08:34:44 AM
Possibly drawn by Terrytoons animator Connie Rasinski, in addition to his Nutty Comics work mentioned in a previous post:

Jamboree #3:

(https://i.ibb.co/wQGCy70/7-C6-EEFA6-FB68-4-B08-AD9-F-7-B81-D93-A53-D9.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/k6rTKpb/96287-B51-9-DCD-4-A9-C-B6-E7-3-A4848-FE28-BB.jpg)

Pop Pop Comics #1:

(https://i.ibb.co/qMpBX54/9-A53-AC58-46-B5-4799-92-C7-35-FE6-B48-CE4-F.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/gvPgQS4/17-FE8-BEC-75-FE-4-D4-D-8543-0-CF4-A80-D16-D1.jpg)

Frisky Fables #4:

(https://i.ibb.co/hyn3mnV/C70-D8-AFE-1166-410-D-B6-E6-4-F79-E1-AF2-BCF.jpg)

Cowboys 'n' Injuns #1:

(https://i.ibb.co/jrDp2s8/9-E423-A3-D-A969-48-EB-A567-354512-BE3714.jpg)

Tick Tock Tales #1:

(https://i.ibb.co/1JYTd7f/E066-DB04-A8-F3-4-EAC-9-B01-1-EB9-FC22-E95-D.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 30, 2021, 01:17:19 AM
Timothy and The Robot was clearly drawn by Carl Wessler.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 30, 2021, 03:51:42 AM

Timothy and The Robot was clearly drawn by Carl Wessler.


I can understand how it could give that impression initially, though from what I saw, Wesslers faces tend to be pretty static, contorted, and neurotic-looking. The Timothy art has details from which Im understanding Rasinski used so far, such as constant thick beads of sweat and having one eye be bigger than the other eye, along with more flexibility in his fast motions.

(https://i.ibb.co/LZdbNmr/D95-A6280-AD5-B-4077-9867-5175-A3-CF61-BF.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on January 30, 2021, 04:42:36 AM
I  think you may be right.  I was just looking at the rabbit.  The wolves look too well-drawn to be Wessler.  And you're right about the movement of the characters being too fluid to be Wessler.  But, the rabbit is certainly a weird-looking character - not typical of Rasinski.  The rabbit on the later page looks a lot more normal, and a lot better than Wessler could have drawn.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on January 31, 2021, 02:13:37 AM

I  think you may be right.  I was just looking at the rabbit.  The wolveslook too well-drawn to be Wessler.  And you're right about the movement of the characters being too fluid to be Wessler.  But, the rabbit is certainly a weird-looking character - not typical of Rasinski.  The rabbit on the later page looks a lot more normal, and a lot better than Wessler could have drawn.


I think Wessler was weirder in drawing rabbits to start with:

(https://i.ibb.co/DwhZ8fx/6-D3-B8-CB8-C089-4-BC5-B970-F8-C243-A7-C134.jpg)

I also came to conclude that Rasinski drew for Inspector Klooz back in 1945, with how visuals such as the dog are drawn for example, similar to Hank from Helpful Hank.

(https://i.ibb.co/kMcDqr2/28-C2-D7-E4-3-B9-F-4-D92-AD78-086570-C492-DB.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/0XZjyQ6/21-D36166-2-F3-F-4173-8-C00-67-B6-FA03408-C.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 02, 2021, 10:36:45 PM
Bill Newton:

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/a8/a884b2309cc962ccf980cdd7be7d06ca/0.jpg)

Likely the same Bill Newton who did early 1950s (sort of animation) television cartoons for shows like Uncle Mistletoe (Christmas on State Street: 1940s and Beyond by Robert P. Ledermann, 2002):

(https://i.ibb.co/kcJy7fH/AD9-D2-C1-D-4032-44-D7-AA18-FF5286035-E93.png)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 06, 2021, 01:54:15 AM
Possible animator mentioned in The Wilkes-Barre Record (March 19, 1938):

?After gaining much local fame as painter of personalities, Maurice Kashuba, Grove Street, has met success in the cartooning field as evidenced by work appearing frequently in Star Ranger and Funny Picture magazines which are published in New York and have nation wide circulation. In an adventure strip, "Rattle snake Gulch," the local man collaborates with Thomas Curry, but the other story, ?Fire,? is his own effort. Mr. Kashuba gained state wide publicity five years ago while at the local high school when he drew a pen and ink sketch of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and was lauded highly for the accomplishment by the Chief Executive who autographed the work. This picture was donated to the school and adorns the high school office. Three years ago he was employed with Max Fleischer, Inc., animators of "Popeye," and ?Betty Boop? cartoons, but was forced to resign due to poor health -

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/103848598/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 08, 2021, 08:25:13 AM
Hanna-Barbara animator Clarence Hartman:

Crime Does Not Pay #41 (September, 1945):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/f7/f7db3f97bce324a9fbee68f710f2d99d/15.jpg)

(https://i.etsystatic.com/5738082/r/il/1c2a5b/538611604/il_794xN.538611604_hjiz.jpg)

https://yowpyowp.blogspot.com/2014/04/augie-doggie-dough-nutty.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 15, 2021, 11:35:44 PM
People who named Fleischer Studios on their World War II draft registration cards, some of which may or may not have drawn for comics at some point:

Louis Adler

Ernest Walter Arcella

Frank Bacher

John Anthony Baker

Thomas Louis Baron

James Hamel Beatty

Verlin Cecil Blackwell

Larz Eugene Bourne

Willard Gustav Bowsky

Frederick Francis Brent

Sam Buchwald

Roy Oral Burke

John Early Burks

Hamilton Butts

Orestes Calpini

Jose Rodrigo Carreon

John Douglas Chaffin

Alfred Clark

Gilbert Rionda Clarke

Alden Eugene Craver

John Martin Cuddy

James Henry Culhane

Walter Raymond Cunningham

Mike David

James Faris Davis

Joseph Marbelle D?Igallo

Oliver Francis Drebert

Irving Dressler

Larry Moore Duncan

John Harold Ehret

Frank Howard Lewis Eley

Herschel Clair Ellison

Frank Xavier Endres

Robert Henry Esslinger

Vincent Francis Fago

Thomas Benson Farish

Jacki Fern

Otto Feuer

Milton Irving Fine

Leo Herbert Fisk

Everett Owen Fitzgerald

Lester May Fleischen

James Edward Fortner

Herbert Frankel

Nathan Friedland

Stanley Irvin Friedlander

Robert Reaney Friis

Donald William Gammon

Woodrow Wilson Gelman

William Lanen Gerke

George Germanetti

John Paul Gibbs

Arnold Benjamin Gillespie

Thomas William Golden

Earl Purdy Goldthorp

Arthur Greenbaum

Morton Greenbaum

Reuben Grossman

Lloyd Charles Von Haden

Samuel John Head

Henry Heilbrunn

David Parsons Higgins

Winfield Scott Hoskins

Calvin Henry Howard

Bernard Howson

William Ballinger Hudson

John Immerman

Thomas Antisell Johnson

Arnold William Kivela

Earl Klein

Seymoor Holtzer Kneitel

Abner Matthew Kneitel

Walter Harold Kraemer

Richard Lang

Bernard Leiter

George Lester

Bernard Levin

Eli Loab Levitan

Lawrence Lippman

William Robert Little

Harold Ellsworth Lockwood

Anton Loeb

Lawrence Lopez

Edwin Francis Loughlin

James Lunnon

Milton M Lustig

William Russell Madden

Marwill Richard Frank Mann

Leonard Louis McCormick

Eugene Ralph McGregor

Jack Bennett Mercer

Richard Shane Miller

Thomas Ancrum Moore

Jay Morton

Stephen Paul Muffati

Paul Edwin Murphy

Frank Napoleon

John O?Neill

Anthony Nicholas Oriolo

Joseph Dominick Oriolo

Jack Orzarkawitz

John Daniel O?Sullivan

George Anthony Ottino

Frank Joseph Paiker

Philip Joseph Di Paola

Anthony J Di Paola

Herbert Harvey Patterson

William Culpepper Pierce

Edward Stacey Pierce

Henry Roehming Rehe

Harold Herman Robins

Lodowick Louis Rosswer

Harry Ryterband

Leland Sanford

Frank Preston Scheidenberger

Erich Friedrich Theodor Schenk

Charles Henry Schettler

Robert Israel Schwartz

Edward Shane

Gordon Augustine Sheehan

Howard Irving Smith

Maxie Smith

Benjamin M Solomon

Abraham Albert Spar

Isidore Herman Sparber

Irving Spector

Samuel Stimson

Maurice Sussman

Hilmer Swens

Louis Philip Sylvester

William Talbott

Nicholas D Taturi

Herman Taylor

Alfred Taylor

David Tendlar

William Turner

James Harold Tyer

Andrew Valentine

George Christian Waiss

Myron Waldman

John Charles Walworth

Brandon Bruce Weaver

Henry Richard Weber

Carroll Orville Wessler

Harry Charles Wichman

Robert Leslie Wickersham

Willie Charlie Williams

John Richard Williams

John Oswald Willis

Jesse George Witmer

Milton Samuel Wohl

Harry Virgil Wylie

Alma Fay Young

George Douglass Young

Source: https://www.fold3.com/search?keywords=Fleischer+studios&general.title.id=816:WWII+Draft+Registration+Cards
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 22, 2021, 06:42:59 AM
Came to my attention that Sangor?s Naish is Fleischer employee Naish D'Asaro. Can?t find any other trace of him though.

https://www.comics.org/creator/9756/
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on February 22, 2021, 08:42:19 AM

Came to my attention that Sangor?s Naish is Fleischer employee Naish D'Asaro. Can?t find any other trace of him though.

https://www.comics.org/creator/9756/

That makes a LOT more sense than the prolific actor having also been a cartoonist at the same time.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 22, 2021, 10:52:24 AM
Terrytoons:

Clifford Augustson

Arthur Edward Bartsch

Theron Leo Collier

Thurlo Meridith Collier

Anderson Craig

Frank Thomas Crampton

Joseph Paul Creaturo

Daniel Adolph Danglo

Abner Harold Duberstein

Saul Kessler

Stanley Gerard Leonardi

Louis Marcus

George Joseph May

George Joseph McAvoy

Robinson McKee

John Baptist Nolan

William Herbert Precht

Joseph George Rasinski

John Conrad Rasinski

Edwin Wesley Rehberg

Celestino Joseph Renza

Robert Alan Rock

Joseph Thomas Schuck

Lawrence Walter Silverman

Martin Bernard Taras

Michael Theodore Tessa

Carlo Anthony Vinciguerra

Gordon Foster Whittier
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on February 22, 2021, 03:12:24 PM
DASARO, NAISH N. was born 29 July 1907, received Social Security number xxx-xx-xxxx (indicating Michigan) and, Death Master File says, died 8 December 1994.

https://www.geni.com/people/Naish-D-Asaro/6000000039518168591
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 22, 2021, 07:36:13 PM

DASARO, NAISH N. was born 29 July 1907, received Social Security number xxx-xx-xxxx (indicating Michigan) and, Death Master File says, died 8 December 1994.

https://www.geni.com/people/Naish-D-Asaro/6000000039518168591


Yeah, I got the impression it was the same guy, but decided to hold off on a further edit because of that birthdate inconsistency.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 22, 2021, 07:36:26 PM
Leon Schlesinger:

Richard Frederick Bickenbach -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BICKENBACH%2C+DICK

Raymond Bert Bloss -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BLOSS

John Nelson Carey -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=CAREY%2c+JACK

Kenneth Fred Champin -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=CHAMPIN%2C+KEN

Calvin Moore Dalton -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=DALTON%2c+CAL

Warren Barth Foster -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=FOSTER%2C+WARREN

Lucifer Benvenuto Guarnier -

https://www.comics.org/penciller/name/Lu%20Guarnier/sort/chrono/

Philip De Lara -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=DE+LARA%2C+PHIL

Michael Maltese -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MALTESE%2c+MIKE

Norman Hildreth McCabe -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HILDRETH%2C+NORMAN

Charles E McKimson -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+KIMSON%2C+CHUCK

Robert Porter McKimson -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+KIMSON%2C+ROBERT

Melvin Eugene Millar -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MILLAR%2C+MELVIN

Philip Milton Monroe -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MONROE%2C+PHIL

Manuel Perez -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=PEREZ%2C+MANNY

Vive Wilho Risto -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=RISTO%2c+VEVE

Roderick Henry Scribner -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SCRIBNER%2C+ROD

Gilbert Henry Turner -

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=TURNER%2C+GIL

And Richard Hastings Thomas, whom may or may not be Richard W. Thomas -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=THOMAS%2c+RICHARD

Source also used:

https://tralfaz.blogspot.com/2021/01/leons-staff-1940.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 23, 2021, 07:17:46 PM
MGM:

George Francis Gordon -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GORDON%2c+GEORGE+1

John Frank Liggera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=LIGGERA%2c+JOHN

Irven Leroy Spence -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SPENCE%2c+IRV
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on February 23, 2021, 10:39:26 PM

MGM:

George Francis Gordon -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GORDON%2c+GEORGE+1

John Frank Liggera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=LIGGERA%2c+JOHN

Irven Leroy Spence -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SPENCE%2c+IRV


Liggera was a long-time inker with Western Publishing's Comic Book Division.  He was the main inker for Tony Strobl for many years, during the late 1950s and 1960s.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 23, 2021, 10:47:45 PM


MGM:

George Francis Gordon -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GORDON%2c+GEORGE+1

John Frank Liggera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=LIGGERA%2c+JOHN

Irven Leroy Spence -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SPENCE%2c+IRV


Liggera was a long-time inker with Western Publishing's Comic Book Division.  He was the main inker for Tony Strobl for many years, during the late 1950s and 1960s.


His closer association with the medium also leads me to think that he?s the JFL from Goofy Comics #15 instead of Jim Logan. I also came to think that the Loughlin from Giggle Comics is Edwin Loughlin (mistaken to be Laughlin) instead of Tom O?Loughlin.

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/af/af62a6cf6f52b30dcb1b4cbbd045a14f/42.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on February 24, 2021, 12:04:03 AM



MGM:

George Francis Gordon -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GORDON%2c+GEORGE+1

John Frank Liggera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=LIGGERA%2c+JOHN

Irven Leroy Spence -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SPENCE%2c+IRV


Liggera was a long-time inker with Western Publishing's Comic Book Division.  He was the main inker for Tony Strobl for many years, during the late 1950s and 1960s.


His closer association with the medium also leads me to think that he?s the JFL from Goofy Comics #15 instead of Jim Logan. I also came to think that the Loughlin from Giggle Comics is Edwin Loughlin (mistaken to be Laughlin) instead of Tom O?Loughlin.

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/af/af62a6cf6f52b30dcb1b4cbbd045a14f/42.jpg)


And George Francis Gordon must have been Dan Gordon's younger brother.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 24, 2021, 05:29:07 AM
Disney:

Alfred Eugene Abranz -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=ABRANZ%2c+FRED

George Baker -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BAKER%2c+GEORGE

Albert Bertino -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BERTINO%2c+AL

Preston Erwin Blair -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BLAIR%2c+PRESTON

Carleton Wilcox Boyd -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BOYD%2c+JACK

Jack Morin Bradbury -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BRADBURY%2c+JACK

Paul Arnold Deighton Busch -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BUSCH%2c+PAUL

Philip Bradford Duncan -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=DUNCAN%2c+PHIL

Morris Gollub -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GOLLUB%2c+MO

Robert Dyer Grant -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GRANT%2c+BOB

John Franklin Grundeen -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GRUNDEEN%2c+FRANK

Ralph Clifford Heimdahl -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HEIMDAHL%2c+RALPH

Harry Alfred Holt -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HOLT%2c+HARRY

Allan Miles Hubbard -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HUBBARD%2c+AL

Kenneth Vernon Hultgren -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HULTGREN%2c+KEN

Ubbe Ert Iwerks -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=IWERKS%2c+UB

Theodore Lynn Karp -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KARP%2c+LYNN

Walter Crawford Kelly -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KELLY%2c+WALT

Henry King Ketcham -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KETCHAM%2c+HANK

Ward Walrath Kimball -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KIMBALL%2c+WARD

John Ryan Kinney -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KINNEY%2c+JAY

Thomas Vernon Massey -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MASSEY%2c+TOM

John Richard McDermott -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+DERMOTT%2c+JOHN

Frank McSavage -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+SAVAGE%2c+FRANK

Cyrus Robert Moore -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MOORE%2c+BOB

Paul Russell Murry -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MURRY%2c+PAUL

Daniel Alexander Noonan -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=NOONAN%2c+DAN

Virgil Franklin Partch -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=PARTCH%2c+VIRGIL

Curtiss Dustin Perkins -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=PERKINS%2c+CURT

Jose Antonio Rivera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=RIVERA%2c+TONY

Julius Svendsen -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SVENDSEN%2c+JULIUS

Riley Allen Thomson -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=THOMSON%2c+RILEY

Reuben Timmins -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=TIMMINS%2c+REUBEN

Stanley Lewis Walsh -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=WALSH%2c+STAN

Alfred Owen Williams -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=WILLIAMS%2c+BILL

And I?m uncertain if Bill Weaver is either Frederick William Weaver or William Tayenner Weaver -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=WEAVER%2c+BILL
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on February 24, 2021, 07:07:04 PM

Disney:

Alfred Eugene Abranz -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=ABRANZ%2c+FRED

George Baker -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BAKER%2c+GEORGE

Albert Bertino -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BERTINO%2c+AL

Preston Erwin Blair -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BLAIR%2c+PRESTON

Carleton Wilcox Boyd -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BOYD%2c+JACK

Jack Morin Bradbury -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BRADBURY%2c+JACK

Paul Arnold Deighton Busch -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BUSCH%2c+PAUL

Philp Duncan -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=DUNCAN%2c+PHIL

Morris Gollub -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GOLLUB%2c+MO

Robert Dyer Grant -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GRANT%2c+BOB

John Franklin Grundeen -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=GRUNDEEN%2c+FRANK

Ralph Clifford Heimdahl -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HEIMDAHL%2c+RALPH

Harry Alfred Holt -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HOLT%2c+HARRY

Allan Miles Hubbard -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HUBBARD%2c+AL

Kenneth Vernon Hultgren -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=HULTGREN%2c+KEN

Ubbe Ert Iwerks -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=IWERKS%2c+UB

Theodore Lynn Karp -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KARP%2c+LYNN

Walter Crawford Kelly -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KELLY%2c+WALT

Henry King Ketcham -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KETCHAM%2c+HANK

Ward Walrath Kimball -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KIMBALL%2c+WARD

John Ryan Kinney -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=KINNEY%2c+JAY

Thomas Vernon Massey -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MASSEY%2c+TOM

John Richard McDermott -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+DERMOTT%2c+JOHN

Frank McSavage -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MC+SAVAGE%2c+FRANK

Cyrus Robert Moore -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MOORE%2c+BOB

Paul Russell Murry -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=MURRY%2c+PAUL

Daniel Alexander Noonan -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=NOONAN%2c+DAN

Virgil Franklin Partch -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=PARTCH%2c+VIRGIL

Curtiss Dustin Perkins -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=PERKINS%2c+CURT

Jose Antonio Rivera -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=RIVERA%2c+TONY

Julius Svendsen -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SVENDSEN%2c+JULIUS

Riley Allen Thomson -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=THOMSON%2c+RILEY

Reuben Timmins -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=TIMMINS%2c+REUBEN

Stanley Lewis Walsh -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=WALSH%2c+STAN

Alfred Owen Williams -

http://www.bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=WILLIAMS%2c+BILL


Lots of comic books drawn by several in this crew!  Fred Abranz: Sangor, Western; Al Bertino: Disney Overseas; Preston Blair: Sangor, ACG, Western; Jack Bradbury: Sangor, Western, Disney Overseas; Mo Gollub: Western; Bob Grant: Western, Disney; Frank Grundeen : Disney Comics Div; Ralph Heimdahl: Western, Disney Comics Div, McCombs; Harry Holt: Sangor; Al Hubbard: Sangor, Western, Disney Overseas;
Ken Hultgren: Western, Disney, Sangor, Archie; Ub Iwerks: Flip The Frog, David McKay; Lynn Karp: Sangor, Western, Disney, Fawcett; Walt Kelly: Centaur, DC, Western,  EC, Own Pub(Pogo); Hank Ketcham: Avon, Standard, Fawcett; Jay Kinney: DC, Comics Studio, Kitchen Sink; Tom Massey: Western; Frank McSavage: Sangor, Western, Disney; Bob Moore: Lev Gleason, Western, Disney Overseas; Paul Murry: Disney, Western, Lafave Newspaper Features, Disney Overseas; Dan Noonan: Parents Magazine Press, Western, Pogo (ind.); Virgil Partch: Fawcett, Western, News America Syndicate, North America Syndicate; Curtiss Perkins: Sangor, Better/Nedor; Tony Rivera: Western; Julius Svendsen: Disney, Western;  Riley Thom(p)son: Disney Comics Div, Western; Reuben Timmins: St. John; Stan Walsh: Disney, Western, Kitchen Sink; Bill Williams: Sangor, ACG, Western, DC, Fawcett, Trojan, Marvel, Tower, Charlton
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 24, 2021, 08:05:02 PM
Of course theres also Carl Barks who mentioned Disney on his draft card, but hes not listed as animator, which is why he didnt pop up in my searches at first. Instead, he?s listed as *In-betweener*, *Writer*, and *Story Director*. Probably a lot more I missed too.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on February 24, 2021, 08:26:09 PM
Heimdahl also created the public domain Minnie Soo for McCombs. I wonder how many who read it back then suspected there to be Disney history behind it.

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/c2/c207420e4b9734f7af8d125c73601d79/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on March 04, 2021, 09:53:01 PM
Ron Santi:

(https://i.ibb.co/Wt9MpHY/112-C9-E5-C-818-C-4-D90-9-BAC-27-B0-A8391502.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/6BJVscV/1-EA1-CBFE-B763-45-B0-940-C-68-BBC0-FBD1-E5.png)

https://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/2012/04/number-1147-ron-santis-three.html

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/34254909/romolo-a_-santi
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Electricmastro on March 15, 2021, 12:05:23 AM
William Arthur Scott Jr. (1914-1999):

Topix #v6#4 (January, 1948):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5da8bae9047ab37eba1951c30c62917e/2.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5da8bae9047ab37eba1951c30c62917e/7.jpg)

https://www.awn.com/animationworld/closer-look-art-scott

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SCOTT%2C+ART
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on March 15, 2021, 06:33:56 AM

William Arthur Scott Jr. (1914-1999):

Topix #v6#4 (January, 1948):

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5da8bae9047ab37eba1951c30c62917e/2.jpg)

(https://box01.comicbookplus.com/viewer/5d/5da8bae9047ab37eba1951c30c62917e/7.jpg)

https://www.awn.com/animationworld/closer-look-art-scott

http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=SCOTT%2C+ART


One of the few features I like in Topix.  Scott was good enough to work for Disney.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on March 16, 2021, 10:10:32 AM
Pappy's Golden Age Comics Blogzine Number 2503 recently featured the "Stalwart Swinburne" story from Ha Ha Comics #35 (Nov 1946). Scripted by Hubie Karp and illoed by Al Hubbard.

https://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/2021/03/number-2503-roc-around-dock.html

Hubie Karp also wrote most of the early "Fox and Crow" for DC.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on March 17, 2021, 12:01:47 AM

Pappy's Golden Age Comics Blogzine Number 2503 recently featured the "Stalwart Swinburne" story from Ha Ha Comics #35 (Nov 1946). Scripted by Hubie Karp and illoed by Al Hubbard.

https://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/2021/03/number-2503-roc-around-dock.html

Hubie Karp also wrote most of the early "Fox and Crow" for DC.

Hubie was animator, Lynn Karp's and cartoon and comic strip writer, Bob Karp's brother.  All three did some work for Ben Sangor's Studio, and Sangor's ACG Giggle and Ha Ha Comics, as well as Ned Pines' Better/Nedor/Standard's Coo Coo, Goofy, Happy, Barnyard, and SuperMouse Comics.  Brother Bob wrote Al Taliaferro's Donald Duck newspaper strip, and also lots of Disney Comics stories for Western Publishing,
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: The Australian Panther on March 17, 2021, 08:27:13 AM
Via Lyons we have just had a children's book by J. R. Bray, considered the father of Animation posted.
Here is an early film of his first animated cartoon. 
The Artist's Dream (J.R. Bray, 1913)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DFgvqA1eCw
Start about 4:20 if you like.
Here is a slightly later one.
Bobby Bumps at the Circus (1916) J.R. Bray Studios, Earl Hurd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncgqzuBkoIw

And Here's Windsor McCay in 1918
Sinking of the Lusitania (1918) Winsor McCay, with an improvised score by HESPERUS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ugk348jStc

Those pioneers did amazing things.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on April 18, 2021, 04:46:51 PM
Not sure if Raymond Bert Bloss (1915-1978) ever did any work for comic books.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: mopee167 on May 14, 2021, 12:19:27 PM
Goobert Ghost, written and drawn by animator Kay Wright, from Giggle Comics #1 (Oct 1943).

https://pappysgoldenage.blogspot.com/2021/05/number-2521-heil-stinkle.html
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on May 30, 2021, 03:09:50 AM

Of course theres also Carl Barks who mentioned Disney on his draft card, but hes not listed as animator, which is why he didnt pop up in my searches at first. Instead, he?s listed as *In-betweener*, *Writer*, and *Story Director*. Probably a lot more I missed too.


No.  Nothing is missing.  Back in those early days a storyboard artist was listed as a story writer.  Barks came to Disney in 1935 as a trainee.  He quickly was hired as an in-betweener.  While working for that low pay level, he augmented his meagre income by moonlighting at drawing gags for productions other than those on which he was working.  He wrote and drew so many excellent gags and scenarios (some of which were the highlights of their scenes) that Walt decided to move him to the Storywriting Department.  He remained writing story scenes and drawing their storyboards, and later, directing 7-minute Donald shorts until the end of his time at The Disney Studio in late spring 1942, when his allergies exacerbated by the air conditioning was making it almost impossible to work.  He had already drawn two long comic books for Western Publishing at the behest of Disney Studios (Pluto Saves The Ship, and Donald Duck in Pirate Gold).  He decided to move out to near the desert (Hemet CA), and raise chickens and write and draw Donald Duck stories for Western publishing.  So, he never worked at any other job within The Disney Studios.
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on July 01, 2021, 09:44:52 AM

Anyways, was looking at comparison of Ben Solomon?s signed art to a lot of the non-Ernie Hart, unsigned funny animal art from Quality Comics, and while maybe I?d have to compare more, I?ve been starting to suspect that quite a bit of the art had been drawn by animator William Pattengill.

Pattengill?s signed art from Ha Ha Comics #2 (November 1943):

(https://i.ibb.co/Tq9xZk7/9-B53724-F-89-E6-4044-922-C-B9-EBC9-F04808.jpg)


Giddy Goose:

(https://i.ibb.co/gDfwpjF/32-ACDBC0-4-E66-4991-BF3-C-019-AB78-F9138.jpg)

The last one in particular leads me to think whichever artist drew this also drew for EC, in addition to being quite prolific, because the goat character and the general design of hair seems similar to the goat character and hair on the fawn from Animal Fables #1 (July 1946):

(https://i.ibb.co/4gqL1NN/5-BEC0569-3-FD4-4784-9-D32-B39-BCBB398-DE.jpg)


That E.C. page just above, from Little Danny Demon was drawn by Burton Geller, who was hired to draw most of E.C.'s funny animal and other young children's comic books.  Apparently, he also drew the Giddy Goose story for Quality.  Because he had so much work with E.C., but still wanted to have other clients, so he wouldn't be left in the lurch if or when his E.C. work would dry up (which it later did), Geller worked well ahead of his schedule for E.C.  He actually had completely finished their Tiny Tot Comics issues through #13, and probably #14, as well the original finished art for about 2/3 of that book was auctioned off), by the time that series was cancelled just after #10 sold poorly.  So, he was almost four, or actually four complete issues ahead!  Animal Fables, Dandy, and Land of The Lost, ALL ended around that time in late 1947, when E.C. decided to end their experiment with comic books for very young children.  Luckily, Geller got work with Quality and rustled up a few other jobs. 

In answer to a question you asked a while back, about an early and mid 1940s funny animal animation-style artist who put the name Ganz to signify ownership of businesses, ostensibly as a sneaky way to sign his work, - I believe that was Dave Gantz, who worked as an in-house staff artist with Timely for the War years and a few after, and also for Sangor for a couple years, and I think I've seen his name connected with another of New York's smaller comic book packaging studios (Funnies,Inc., Baily's, Fago's, Jason, or Ferstadt's).

Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on August 22, 2022, 06:48:54 PM
Here is a list of artists who worked for Bernard Baily's Studio (which operated from 1943 through the end of 1946:

    BERNARD BAILY STUDIO   
    Note
        1943-46 Packaged comics for: CAMBRIDGE HOUSE; RURAL HOME PUBLISHING (many imprints)   > 43 44 45 46
        1943-46 Packaged comics for: JAY BURTIS; NARRATIVE; DC COMICS   > 43 44 45 46
        1943-46 Packaged comics for: LINDSAY BAIRD; BAILY PUBLICATIONS; FEATURE COMICS   > 43 44 45 46
        1943-46 Packaged comics for: NEAL PUBLICATIONS ; NOVACK COMICS; SWAPPER'S QUARTERY   > 43 44 45 46
        1943-46 Packaged comics for: R.B. LEFFINGWELL; CROYDEN; FAWCETT COMICS; MARVEL COMICS   > 43 44 45 46
    Studio personnel
        ALBRIGHT, NINA (pen/ink/) 1945-46   > 45 46
        AMES, LEE (pen/ink/) 1944-45 unconfirmed   > 44 45
        APPEL, GEORGE H. unconfirmed   
        BAILY, BERNARD (own/) 1943-46-   > 43 44 45 46 47 48
        BAKER, BRUCE c1945 unconfirmed   > 45
        BALDWIN, W. F. c1946 unconfirmed   > 46
        BARRY, DAN (dir/pen/ink/) 1946   > 46
        BRIEFER, DICK 1945 unconfirmed   > 45
        COHEN, MILTON (pen/ink/) c1945   > 45
        COOPER, SAM (pen/ink/) c1945   > 45
        DEL BOURGO, M. (pen/ink/) c1943   > 43
        FERGUSON, HOWARD (let/) 1944   > 44
        FRAZETTA, FRANK (pen&ink/) 1944   > 44
        FROEHLICH, AUGUST (pen/ink/) c1944-46   > 44 45 46
        FROHMAN, BURT (pen/ink/) 1946   > 46
        GALE, JERRY (wr/) c1943-45 confirmed by Marvin Levy   > 43 44 45
        GATTUSO, PAUL (pen/ink/) mid-1940s   > 44 45 46
        GIUNTA, JOHN (pen/ink/) 1944   > 44
        GOLDEN, ROBERT unconfirmed   
        HENNING, BILL (pen/ink/) c1944-45   > 44 45
        HICKS, ARNOLD (pen/ink/)   
        HOLLINGSWORTH, ALVIN (pen/ink/) mid-1940s   > 44 45 46
        INFANTINO, CARMINE (pen/ink/) c1945   > 45
        JOURDAIN (pen/ink/)   
        KANE, GIL (pen/ink/) 1946   > 46
        KIEFER, HENRY C. (pen/ink/) 1945   > 45
        LEAV, MORT unconfirmed   
        LEE, LESTER (wr/) 1945 possibly part of the team LEE/SCHERTZ   > 45
        LEVY, MARVIN (ink/bkgrd/) 1943-46   > 43 44 45 46
        LITTLE, FRANK (wr/pen/ink/) 1944-45   > 44 45
        MORGAN, FRED (pen/ink/)   
        PADDOCK, MUNSON (pen/ink/) 1945   > 45
        POST, HOWARD (pen/ink/) 1945-46   > 45 46
        PROSS, AL (pen/ink/) c1945   > 45
        RABOY, MAC (co-own/) c1944-45   > 44 45
        RICE, PIERCE (pen/) 1943   > 43
        SCHERTZ (pen/ink/) 1945-46 part of team LEE/SCHERTZ   > 45 46
        SHERMAN, HAROLD (pen/ink/) 1945-46   > 45 46
        STAHL, AL (pen/ink/) 1945   > 45
        STALLMAN, MANNY (pen/ink/) 1945   > 45
        STONER, E. C. (pen/ink/)   
        TIRMAN, IRVING (pen/ink/) c1943-45   > 43 44 45
        TYLER, AL (pen/ink/)   
        VOIGHT, CHARLES (pen/ink/) c1945-c46   > 45 46
        WARREN, ALONZO c1945 unconfirmed   > 45
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: Robb_K on August 24, 2022, 04:26:58 AM
Here is a list of Jason Comic Art Studio's studio personnel and publishers and comic series produced for:
   JASON COMIC ART art studio; packager    
   Biographical
       Aka JASON ART STUDIOS and LEON JASON STUDIOS    
   Packaged or supplied comics
       ADVENTURES OF JO-JOY IN A PRESENT FOR SANTA. . .~ 1953 premium for W.T. GRANT    > 53
       ATOMAN 1946    > 46
       BEANIE    
       BENNY BEAR    
       BILL AND KOO    
       CHIPPY CHIPMUNK    
       CIRCUS    
       CLOWN    
       DIZZY AND DAFFY    
       FRISKY FABLES    
       JEEP COMICS 1948    > 48
       KO KOMICS 1945    > 45
       KOKO AND KOLA    
       LATEST    
       LAW AGAINST CRIME 1948    > 48
       MARVIN THE GREAT 1946 in ATOMAN    > 46
       NUTTY COMICS c1945-c47    > 45 46 47
       PADDY AND CHUCK    
       POP-POP 1945    > 45
       PUNCH AND JUDY    
       SPOOKY MYSTERIES 1946    > 46
       THREE RING    
       TICK TOCK TALES    
       TOM-TOM THE JUNGLE BOY    
       WINKIE & NITE OWL    
       1940s For: JAMBOREE; LEFFINGWELL    > 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49
       1945-46 For: ROUND PUBLISHING; SPOTLIGHT; SPARK    > 45 46
       1945-49 For: NOVELTY COMICS    > 45 46 47 48 49
       1945-55 For: ACE; BETTER; D.S.; EC; HARVEY; HILLMAN; CIRCUS    > 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55
       1946-48 For: STREET AND SMITH; YOUR GUIDE; CROYDEN; MARVEL    > 46 47 48
       1946-51 For: MAGAZINE ENTERPRISES    > 46 47 48 49 50 51
       1951 For: STANHALL    > 51
   Studio personnel
       BANKER, GEORGE c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       BERUBE, PHIL (pen/ink/) 1945-60    > 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60
       BRYANT, DAVID c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       CABRAL, JAMES name on back of original comic art from JCA; possibly artist or letterer    
       CALPINI, ORESTES (pen/ink/) mid-1940s    > 44 45 46
       CHAMBERS, ELLIS (pen/ink/) mid-1940s unconfirmed    > 44 45 46
       DELGADO, GILBERT c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       FILLION, ERNEST c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       FRUBELL, ROBERT c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       GALLANT, YVETTE c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       GOLDEN, TOM (pen/ink/) 1940s unconfirmed    > 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49
       HALL, HENRY c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       HERSEY, ALLISON c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       HOUGH, GAIL c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       HUDSON, BILL (wr/pen/ink/) 1945-47    > 45 46 47
       JASON, LEON (own/dir/ed/) 1945-55-    > 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
       KAJUTI, CAROL c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by studio; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       LITTMANN, PETER name on back of original comic art from JCA; possibly artist or letterer    
       MAFFINI, EDWARD c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by shop for NUTTY COMICS    > 46
       MAFFINI, EDWARD name on back of original comic art from JCA; possibly artist or letterer    
       MORTON, JAY (wr/) 1940s manager?    > 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49
       OTTENHEIMER, FRED (wr/pen/ink/) unconfirmed    
       POST, HOWIE (pen/ink/) unconfirmed    
       RILEY, LARRY (pen/ink/) 1945    > 45
       RYAN, DOROTHY c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by shop for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       RYAN, DOROTHY name on back of original comic art from JCA; possibly artist or letterer    
       SILVERMAN, LAWRENCE (pen/ink/) 1946-49    > 46 47 48 49
       SPARACO, HAROLD c1946 name found on back of original art prepared by shop for NUTTY COMICS; possibly artist or letterer    > 46
       SPARACO, HAROLD name on back of original comic art from JCA; possibly artist or letterer    
       TARAS, MARTIN (pen/ink/) 1945    > 45
       WOOD, PAT (pen/ink/) c1945
Title: Re: Comic Book Artists who came from Animation & Vice Versa
Post by: ComicMike on August 24, 2022, 02:35:00 PM
Thanks Robb, for the work you've done and for the lists!  :)