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Title: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 18, 2013, 12:24:58 AM
The First Indonesian comic book super hero was a character called Sri Asih, a female heroine who appeared in 1953. Here is the the info so far.....

"Raden Ahmad Kosasih or better known as RA Kosasih born in Bondongan the village, Bogor on April 3, 1919. He is the youngest of seven siblings. Raden Wiradikusuma, his father was a merchant from Purwakarta and Sumarni while his mother came from Bogor. His love of the comic has been nurtured since the first grade Inlands School (elementary level) in Bogor. Kosasih first known comics from the newspapers used wrapping paper grocery mother. Formerly he was fond of Tarzan comic strip, though the story did not read sequentially. Another of his hobby is watching movies in theaters and puppet show performances that lasted all night.

Learn to draw interest in continuing education when he appeared at Hollands Inlands School (HIS) Pasundan in 1932. He learned from the many to imitate the pictures from illustrated books Dutch language lessons.
After graduating from HIS, Kosasih getting crazy about drawing lessons and watch a puppet show performances.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on April 18, 2013, 12:37:42 AM
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Post by: narfstar on April 18, 2013, 07:36:52 PM
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Post by: mr_goldenage on April 19, 2013, 03:16:14 PM
Next Up: The First Philippine Super Hero & When is it a Golden Age?

RB @ Home

1941-1945 The War Years A Brief History Of Philippine Comics

Cartoons were put to effective use during the Japanese occupation as a tool of propaganda. The Japanese Military Administration knew well of the cartoons
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 20, 2013, 04:11:40 AM
The First Philippine Superhero Ipo-Ipo

There have been many super heroes in the history of Philippine comics, and one can argue that Francisco Reyes' Kulafu may have been the first, who first appeared in the early 30's. But Kulafu, like Francisco V. Coching's Hagibis, were heroes in the mold of Tarzan and Prince Valiant.

The traditional superhero, and by this I mean the costumed superhero in the tradition of Batman and Superman, may have appeared in the Philippines after the second world war, after the influx of super hero comics from America brought by American GIs stationed here.Liberato Abrena or Lib Abrena to His colleague is a native of Pangasinan. He started to make cartoons on after World War II. Abrena was a quiet person and in his late twenties During that time. He also always wear dark glass as being half blind. The soap opera listening to radio and watching movies (particularly cowboys) take much of His time. did not quite met in 1940 was Lib's because only a few cartoons makes his contribution was for the special issues of the Dawn. He also makes his strip cartoons Flowers Magazine.

Liberato Abrena or Lib Abrena to His colleague is a native of Pangasinan. He started to make cartoons on after World War II. Abrena was a quiet person and in his late twenties During that time. He also always wear dark glass as being half blind. The soap opera listening to radio and watching movies (particularly cowboys) take much of His time. did not quite met in 1940 was Lib's because only a few cartoons makes his contribution was for the special issues of the Dawn. He also makes his strip cartoons Flowers Magazine.

But when they do Lib's " That's Life "in the first issue of post war Sunday Times, he suddenly became popular. The Sunday Times are about kany a full page every Sunday for her That's Life and dmg each page was taken by a more or less timely topic. The cartoon revealed a kindly, gentle disposition. Abrena When Lib died on Oct. 24. 1949 after two weeks of having a typhoid, Times attempted to take some substitute for his outstanding work but never could quite approximate Abrena's soft satire.Some of the cartoons Abrena's strip is "The Life Nga Naman" in 1946. He is also the illustrator of "Whirlwind , the first costumed superhero in the Phil. In Birth Magazine in April 1947 and the "Glimpse of Life "to turn the series for Dawn. He also previously published his book,"The Best of Lib Abrena" its a 64 pages book and contains 768 lovable & laughable cartoons published Bandayon Book Co.. in 1950. It is compilation of his cartoon strip appeared in Sunday Times from May 12, 1946 - Oct. 16, 1946 .

From what I know so far, and based in information passed on to us by Komiks historian and collector Dennis Villegas, the first costumed superhero in the country may well be a character named IPO-IPO, created by Lib Abrena and OS del Rosario. IPO-IPO, or "tornado" in English, first appeard in April 1947 in "Magasin ng Pagsilang" (Magazine of Birth).

IPO-IPO was not only costumed, but he was super powered as well, wielding powers that not only controlled the wind be he also appeared to be invulnerable.Ipo-ipo derived his superpowers from the whirlwind. His superpowers included being as fast as the "speed of the wind" and bullets just pass through his body once fired upon from guns.Lib Abrena was a classic Filipino comics artist. Together with Os. del Rosario, he created what was presumably the first costumed superhero in the Philippines, 'Ipo-Ipo', that debuted in Magasin ng Pagsilang in April 1947. He was also present in Liwayway Magazine with the cartoon series'Mga Sulyap Sa Buhay'.

IPO-IPO is presumably the first true Pinoy komiks superhero, a character created by Lib Abrena and Oscar del Rosario in April, 1947 in a Tagalog magazine called Magasin ng Pagsilang. Ipo-Ipo is an interesting character, he gets his superpowers from the whirlwind. He acquires the speed of the wind and bullets fired into him just pass through his body.

Fresh from the horrors of Japanese invasion, Abrena and del Rosario pitted Ipo-Ipo against the ruthless Japanese soldiers who refused to surrender, even after the unconditional capitulation of Japan in 1945. Ipo-ipo was created by Lib Abrena and Oscar del Rosario in April 1947 as a reaction against Japanese military invaders who occupied the Philippines in World War II and refused to surrender even after the admission of defeat by Japan in 1945. Ipo-ipo was featured in Magasin ng Pagsilang (literally "Magazine of Birth").

References
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Post by: mr_goldenage on April 20, 2013, 04:12:36 AM
1886-1921

Komiks is the Tagalog term for comics created or produced in the Philippines. It is simply the English word
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 27, 2013, 04:54:36 PM
Is this of any interest to anyone here? Do you want to see more? Yes or no?

Mr Goldenage
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on April 27, 2013, 05:39:26 PM
Of any interest? You gotta be kidding we love this stuff.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 29, 2013, 12:58:23 AM
Ok fair enough. I have just gotten permission from the gentleman for the South African info to use his stuff here and I await one other persons permission then I am somewhat good to go.

I am also working on Italy's info too. Not as far along with that one but still a good bit into it as to give it a go here too as to who is who for their golden age of super/costumed characters.

And I am mired working out the who's who from India - Indonesia - Malaysia costumed & super powered characters and soon as I sort out that mess you will see a part two of Indonesia as well as a part one on the other two countries.

Part II of the Philippines is in the works with the 2nd and 3rd heroes of the Pinoy First heroic age and should be ready soon too.

Which one would you like to see first?

RB @ home
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Post by: narfstar on April 29, 2013, 02:28:42 PM
No preference. The stuff is just so neat. I don't download much since i can not read it but I love to check out these cool things. I have created a  Philippine section.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 29, 2013, 05:47:45 PM
SOUTH AFRICA

Chronology of South African Comic Books - 1920s to 1940s

In 1924 Henry Winder drew "Duggie, Lemmie & Hi-Ti", which was probably South Africa's first Comic Strip for  children. It appeared in the Rand Daily Mail for 3 years and featured animal characters (a rabbit, a lemur and a  crow). His next strip was "Pippin, Twinkle and Budge" in 1928 (a dog, a cat and a grey mole) for the same  newspaper. In 1927 Edward Ridley drew "Piet, Jock and Auntie - or The Veldies on Tour", which was also an  early Comic Strip for children, for The Outspan. The strip appeared weekly from 1927 to 1941 on the children's  page. In 1934 Jacobus Esterhuysen drew "April en Jannewarie" for Die Volksblad for 5 years. In 1937 he drew a  second strip called "Twak" about the adventures of his pet dog. In 1935 Alfred Hayes drew "Young Folk"  for  The Cape Review. In 1937 Eben Leibbrandt drew "Troue Vriende" and "Sonkie en Sampie" for Die Brandwag. In  1948 he drew "Krato die Oermens" for Die Brandwag.  In 1938 David Marais drew "The Ace" for Sunday Express.
in 1938 Joseph Montgomery drew "Spic & Span" for Rand Daily Mail. In 1938 Manuel Santana drew "Koos the  Cop" for Sunday Express. In 1940 Albert Humble drew "Trompie", about the antics of a little black dog,  for Die  Suiderstem. Also in 1940 he drew "Krulbol-hulle" for Die Kleinspan section. In 1941 H. Marriott-Burton drew "At  the children's Outspan" , featuring the characters "Nutty the monkey, Humpty the tortoise, Aunt Hilda the hippo  and Uncle Wattie the warthog" for The Outspan until 1950. In 1937 J.H. Rabe started producing the first comic  strips to appear in the Afrikaans Press: "Jan Rap" (1937), "Ontwikkeling" (1938) and "Daan Donsies en Hendrik  Horrelpoot" (1947).

For further information see:
J.H. Rabe

In 1939 T.O. Honiball produced "Oom Kaspaas", later "Jakkals en Wolf" (1942) and "Faan Brand" (1946) and  "Adoons-Hulle" (1948). In 1941 Victor Clapham drew "Grompot" - the gunner with a grouse - for Sunday Times.
In 1940 Bob Connolly drew "Stella the Steno" for Rand Daily Mail for 5 years.
Appearing in Die Jongspan during the 1930s was a comic strip called "Knapsak and Klonkie", by A.P. Du Toit. In  1939 he published a children's comic book called "Ons Vriendjie" - probably the first of its kind in South Africa.  He produced 3 books of his strips, published by Nasionale Boekhandel: Knapsak en Klonkie op die maan (1942)  Die Klawervier (1946) Knapsak en Klonkie in die land van die Tassieblaar (1950) In 1941-1943 Monty Wilson  produced "The Adventures of Intambo and Mafuta" and "Humorous Native Studies".
For further information see: Monty Wilson. In 1945 Victor Ivanoff drew "Kalie die Kuiken" and "Jors voer die  orlog" for Die Brandwag. 

In 1946 C.P. Mocke drew "Die Kaskenades van Bles" for Die Jongspan. In 1946 W.  Leendert Akkerhuys drew "Die Goue Been" for Die Jongspan. In 1947 David Macgregor drew "Bobbie and Betty"  for English and Afrikaans Newspapers for 2 years. In 1947 Wolf Von Loeben drew "Oom Piet Vertel" for  Jeugland.  In 1948 Gerald Norton drew "Stukkies & Stan" for Mining News.  In 1948 Ivor van Rensburg drew  "The Adventures of Prince Thala" for Bantu World. In 1948 Roland Wentzel drew "Boetie en Adoons" for  Volksbylaag. In 1949 Frank Purcell drew the comic strip "Did you know that?", dealing with South African  natural history, appeared in The Cape Argus.

For further information see:
Frank Purcell

Thanks Mahdi at  Readers Den for this section on the availability of Foreign Comics in South Africa during this  period:

From what I gather, US comics were initially imported in the early 1940s (one of my oldest customers, now  passed on, recalled buying a very early Superman off the shelf) but by late 1940s/early 1950s these imports had  vanished, except for Humour Comics and Classics Illustrated.  I suspect this was related to the Horror Comics   scare and the publication of Wertheim's "Seduction of the Innocent".

The Entertainments (Censorship) Act of this period in South Africa's history would have made it more difficult  to import Foreign Comic Books.

Chronology of South African Comic Books - 1950s

In 1950 Victor Clapham drew "Sampie" or "Hee-Haw for President", in which a donkey and a horse-fly featured -   for The Forum. In 1950 Albert Humble drew "So is die Lewe" for Die Suiderstem. In 1950 Keith Stevens drew  "Poochy" for Trigger Post. In 1951 he drew "The Adventures of Zambezie and Sir Mac" for The Outspan and  Young Opinion. His most famous comic Strip "Ben en Babsie" first appeared in 1955.
For more information see: Keith & Lorna Stevens. In 1951 Sean Coughlan drew "Sixpence", about the  experiences of a domestic servant - for The Outspan. In 1951 Frank Purcell and his wife, Margaret, created "Van  Riebeeck's Diary" which was published in eighty daily instalments in The Cape Argus, Diamond Fields  Advertiser, Natal Tribune, The Star. This series was published in book form in 1951.
For further information see: Frank Purcell. In the early 1950s Gerald Norton drew "Phaki" for Umteteli wa Bantu   and "Joey-Hulle" for Saamtrek. In 1954 the first DC Comics were reprinted in South Africa - only five titles were  produced: Len Sak drew the comic strips "Vossie en Kieste" for Die Brandwag from 1956-1962 and "Mabel and  Sagile" for Bantu World from 1956-1968 and "Tim Tuck" for The Cape Argus freom 1959-1960. His most famous  comic strip was "Jojo" which first appeared in Drum in February 1959. For more information see: Len Sak
in 1956 Bill Papas drew "Goombi - Private Detective" for Drum Magazine.  For further information see Andy  Mason's Book "What's So Funny" - Double Story 2010 - ISBN 978-1-77013-071-5, pages 67-69. Bill Papas  illustrated the Book "Under the Tablecloth" in 1952:
In 1957 Conrad drew "Dick Hunter", a story with a South African boy and his love for the veld - for The Sunday  Times. In 1959 Alex La Guma drew "Little Libby: The Adventures of Liberation Chabalala" for New Age. For  further information see Andy Mason's Book "What's So Funny" - Double Story 2010 - ISBN 978-1-77013-071-5,  pages 67-69. In 1959 Atlas Publications reprinted 2 DC Comics titles, Action Comics and Adventure Comics:
For further information see: Atlas Publications. Also in 1959 Mimosa Publications started reprinting numerous 
DC Comics and other titles: In the 1950s the Entertainments (Censorship) Act of this period in South Africa's  history would have made it more difficult to import Foreign Comic Books. Only Humour comics, Dell "Life Story"  and Classics Illustrated were distributed. In the early 1980s I found this comic at Tommy's Book Exchange, Long  Street, Cape Town. At the time it was the oldest comic I owned, so it brings back good memories. Sometimes the  price stamp on the cover is the only way of confirming where a comic book was distributed. The stamp is faint,  but looks to say "The Late ..." - I wonder if this was a South African distribution stamp?

End of Part I
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 29, 2013, 05:51:24 PM
SOUTH AFRICA Part II

Chronology of South African Comic Books - 1960s

From 1959 to 1964 Mimosa Publications started reprinting numerous DC Comics and other American titles: In  1960 Andre De Beer drew "Speurder Loot Louw" for Justitia.  In 1960 Chris Du Plooy drew "Danie Theron se  Verkenner" for Die Brandwag. From 1960-1962 Len Sak drew the comic strip "Pletz" for Zionist Record and SA  Jewish Chronicle. In 1963 he published his own Jewish children's comic book "Gibor", which ran for four  issues.  Gibor contained the strips "The Kaplans", "Kupi", "Dov" and "The Secret Tunnel" - the latter three  strips were continued in Zionist Record in 1964. In 1964 he drew the comic strip "Honey" for Elethu Mirror, and  from 1968 to 1980 drew the comic strip "Cherrie" for The World, Sunday Post and Weekend World. In 1961-1962  Daniel Erasmus drew "Rooi Jan" for Die Brandwag. In the early 1960s David (Dov) Fedler drew "Hail Caesar" for  New Nation, "The Hunters" for The Star, "Buzbee" for Garden and Home, "Captain Industry" for Industrial  Management.  In 1962 Johann Roos drew "Harrie the Hippie" for Personality. In 1963 Johan van Niekerk drew   "Die Olifante van Kalanga"  and "Uys Barnard" for Huisgenoot. In 1963 Tony Grogan drew "The Blots" for Daily  Dispatch, and in 1968-1969 he drew "The Van Riebeecks of Doringvlei" for Farmers weekly. In the mid-1960s  "Slang van die Soutpanne" - by Pienaar Smit (writer) and Johan van Niekerk (illustrator) was published in the  Afrikaans press (some of these strips were also published in book form by Nasionale Boekhandel in 1966). In  1966 Johan Van Niekerk drew "Fritz Bender" for Die Huisgenoot. In 1968 Keith & Lorna Stevens started their  comic strip "Flip Foster", which appeared weekly in The Star. In 1969 Sean Latham drew "Waterhouse" for Rand  Daily Mail. In the late 1960s Carel Birkby (writer) and Peter Ogilvie (illustrator) produced the strip "Stroppie's  Lot" for Sunday Times. In the late 1960s Ivor Van Rensburg drew  the strips "John Graydon", "Famous  Mysteries" and "True Tales of South Africa"  for various newspapers. He also drew "Just Nuisance" for the  Weekend Argus. In the late 1960s Len Lindeque drew "Springbok" (written by Ralph Loubser) for Dagbreek en  Landstem, "Olaf Bouwer" (Written by Stoffel Pienaar) for Rapport and "Black Bullet" for Bona. In 1969 Frank  Purcell drew "Uncle Rupert" for Farmer's Weekly. Also in the 1960s Photo Story Magazines became very  popular: In June 1964 the doors opened - and South Africa started selling hundreds of imported DC and Marvel
Luke Cage was an interesting anomaly to me, a powerful black American hero, but I was reading his exploits in  a country where black people had been colonized, impoverished and segregated into ghetto townships, away  from peacefully privileged white suburbs. As I saw it, the height of black aspirations for those traveling in from  the townships were as a maid or a gardener, dependent on their gender. Little did I know then, that about this
time (1975), black South Africans had been 'supplied' with their own  super-hero, a Luke Cage Power Man
equivalent, or a prototypic Superman, who could leap tall buildings, but not fly.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 29, 2013, 06:03:04 PM
SOUTH AFRICA Part III

So the introduction of Mighty Man was not a novelty in itself - what earmarked him as different was that he was  an illustrated super-hero, a more expensive, swanky alternative to photo-comics. This was in a market where  South Africans had hitherto only published overseas reprints - such as DC comics in rebranded local labels  such as Mimosa in the 1950's and 1960's - or Supercomix for the 1970's local equivalent of Marvel. (Again, some  wonderfully evocative examples can be found on this blogsite.)

Mighty Man was targeted towards - and published in - the townships under the rubric of 'Afri-Comics', branded  as South Africa's own equivalent of Super Man. Early issues in the series were subtitled: 'The Human Law  Enforcing Dynamo.' The problem was, of course, that at that time the main thrust of laws in South Africa were  apartheid laws. But Mighty Man (MM) never challenged any agencies or laws outside the township in which they were set -  ostensibly Soweto. A black hero seemingly meant exclusively for black people, his enemies were township  gangsters ('tsotis'), drug Lords ('dagga merchants') and generally opponents of peace and 'law and order'. As  Bill Mantlo (1978) states, Mighty Man propounded subservience to laws, non-violence and an anti-gun message  (for blacks). With readership targeted to the townships and perhaps priced to ensure affordability to a relatively  impoverished community, it was evident Mighty Man was implicitly intent on ensuring compliance to laws - with  the underlying message that opponents of 'law and order' were invariably gangsters, murderers and, in some  instances, 'communists'. (As Mantlo asserts, a thinly veiled allusion to the then banned African National  Congress.)

Mighty Man
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 29, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
SOUTH AFRICA Part IV

As you have seen from parts 1 through 3 that there were no costumed crime fighters or super heroes that were native to South Africa in comic strip form or in Comic Book form until the mid 1970's. Which begs the question.......

So who were the first South African Super heroes/Costumes Crimefighters?

The Photo Story Magazines printed in the mid 1960's featuring such characters as Die Swart Adelaar (The Black Eagle), Son Of Samson, Supermask, and perhaps the Flash are the answer to this question.

I put them in this order as I do believe that this is the possible correct chronology for these characters.

Die Swart Adelaar (The Black Eagle) had 14 issues that I am aware of. I do not currently own any of this characters issues although I am currently trying to buy two issues of this characters photo stories magazine. Dressed in all black with a white circle on his chest with a black eagle inside the circle, one see's the Black Eagle fighting the criminals that beset ZA.

Supermask is one of the more interesting characters as he is a black man in a super hero costume. Owning no issues of this characters title it is a bit hard to tell what the character is about. I have a few covers all depicting his fight against crime which entails Supermask fighting his fellow black man without any white men in site for at least 3 issues that I have seen so far.

Son of Samson. Samson can be found in African Film Magazine although he wasn't the star of the magazine but a sub-feature that was occasionally had the cover to himself. Again you only see Son Of Samson dealing with the "Black" threat, much like Mighty Man would do in the 1970's. One would think that this was the norm for black superheroes in South Africa on the several covers I have seen Son of Samson on.

Other characters were
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on April 30, 2013, 01:42:46 AM
More great info. Comics are/were everywhere.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 30, 2013, 03:53:23 PM
I am glad you liked it. There sure was comics everywhere, or jsut about everywhere. I am working on Italy and the Netherlands right now as well as South East Asia and India. As soon as one of them are done I will post the next one. Other than Narfstar, I'd love to hear other people's comments. How about it gang?

RB @ Work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 01, 2013, 02:06:49 AM
When you look at your books look at the hundreds of views. Not a lot of downloads but lots of views. I think there is so much at CB+ that we realize that we can not download everything. But that does not keep us from looking and enjoying. Lots of people do not say anything because they may feel guilty about taking without giving back. There are a lot of people looking at your books especially superhero.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 01, 2013, 02:09:41 AM
Richard can you please make a cbz file containing all the foreign covers that you have collected. You put them at the end of your post and it just wets my appetite.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 01, 2013, 02:35:06 AM
Isn't there a file size limitation?

Richard

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Post by: narfstar on May 01, 2013, 10:16:41 AM
OK several cbr  :o
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 01, 2013, 08:03:02 PM
Jim,

I wish I was that organized.

In reality I only save the covers and/or images I really like or want for cataloging purposes. I wish I was that organized that I could break them down by country but truth be told I dump them into a large file that is just a "general" file designated for cataloging purposes like I use to use for the old Good Guys site. I can cobble together some covers to match or be under the maximum limit for file size (70 MB isn't it?) for you over several files. Also I can give you the sites that I grab the covers from as I save every site and blog that I go to for future use. In addition to that I find Ebay (Ebay Italy Ebay France Ebay UK ect.) a useful place to find covers as well if you know what characters you are looking for. International Heroes and sites like that are somewhat useful. I will gather some up this weekend and post them here. Let me know where to upload them to.

RB @ work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 02, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
Richard, this is excellent work and, apart from being educational is seriously entertaining.  So you're tackling Italy and Netherlands?  Can I help?  I loved the scan of Radar.  The Radar comics were reprinted in the U.K. and just to confuse matters, the title changed to Wonderman. The Radar issues were published by Famepress, London in 1962 - 16 issues and in 1967 they were published again as Wonderman (same stories? - not sure) by Alex. White for 26 issues.  Both incarnations were printed in Italy.
These sites will help:-
http://www.masinogiovanni.com/02fumetti/05_fumetti_tascabili.htm
http://www.collezionismofumetti.com/
Have a footer about with this one and if you get stuck, please let me know.

Lots here on Dick Bos and beeldromans
http://www.dickbos.info/pages/beeldromans/beeldromans.php
http://www.dickbos.info/pages/home/english.php
http://www.thrillingdetective.com/eyes/dick_bos.html
And, of course, Lambiek:-
http://www.lambiek.net/dutchcomics/index.htm
Search for Marten Toonder.

Don't know if you fancy this lot but, if you do, here's piles of Hong Kong comics.  Nightmare to work through the site as it's all in Chinese but I'm finding some lovely stuff - all hites and big fights.
http://www.dm5.com/manhua-hktw/
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 02, 2013, 10:25:35 PM
Paw,

Thanks for the kind words and the links. they are very helpful.
I am glad that you find these profiles of interest and entertaining as well as educational, which was my intention, to show that there are other comics out there that have histories that are as interesting as any that are featured here.

I find that other countries Golden Ages are fascinating in their own right and have a rich history worth exploring, which I enjoy doing and is one reason I have not scanned and uploaded hardly any comics of late (bad Richard I know). I get so caught up in this exploration that I find myself lost in these explorations because they are so fascinating.

The one I am working on right now is Italy which is proving to be a bit of a challenge trying to sort out who came first when and such, thus I am working on time-lines and the like and doing the research on that now. Meanwhile I will probably follow up my Indonesian and Philippine "articles" (for a lack of a better term) in the interim, to move forward in time to show what came next in those two countries. I hope you all find those as interesting as well.

Again, thank you for the links and your kind words and I appreciate your comments, they are most welcomed. Take care.

Kindly

Richard

A Side Note - Google Chrome Translator works decently in translating most languages so the Chinese one was not too bad. Had to wait until I returned home from work to take a peek @ the site. Lovely I might say! Thanks again for the links all are just fine and dandy. Great stuff indeed.
RB
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 02, 2013, 11:17:01 PM
The popularity of photo comics is something I was not aware of in so many other countries. The wrestling comics in Mexico to Killing in others.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 03, 2013, 09:09:46 AM
Ah, Jim, there are so many out there and while my knowledge is relatively limited, I've always been amazed by the number of photo comics that were published in Italy.  I think that "fumetti" might originally have referred to photo comics more than drawn comics. It's only since I got a computer that I realised they were also popular in Central and South America. As soon as I post this note (and finish this excellent cup of coffee), I'm off to my Italian class and I'll try to find time to ask Federica about the origins of fumetti.
It never fails to amaze me just how much there is to find out about comics.  I'm continually being surprised and delighted.  So, all the work Richard is doing is a great addition to our communal knowledge.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 03, 2013, 11:11:55 PM
Thanks Paw,

Actually I think the Photo Novel (story/magazine) was probably a better bet for the publishers. Just my opinion. My thought is.....

1) they did not have to depend on artists/inkers
2) less time waiting for artwork or production
3) you get a bunch of unemployed actors and/or just people period to do a costume shoot (depending on the time period of the story)
4) A camera guy or two shoot the whole thing in a day or two - get the film processed and add word balloons then zip it off to the printers/distributors.
And I am sure this was time wise was quicker and more cost effective than a comic book and all the trappings involved in the production process.

I'd like to add that Japan had photo books as well starting as far as I can tell back in the 1950's. I'll admit they were used mostly for educational purposes but somewhere along the line they did evolve into photo entertainment books along the way when TV came along.

I think/know comics were and are more dynamic and tell a better story than the static - too realistic photo novels that seem to be everywhere except in English speaking countries as far as I can tell.....

And on a side note I have the opportunity to buy two South African photo novels Die Swart Adelaar @ current cost for both (shipping not included, but more on that in a bit) @ $67.00 US. Problem is the gentleman does not ship outside of South Africa. I should say that is problem # 1. Second problem is that the books are on SA's version of Ebay called Bid or Buy which has this weird way of "joining" their site. First off you most likely have to live in South Africa as I have registered with credit card and all the requirements that the site asked for (and there were a lot) and I am still not approved!

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 04, 2013, 03:27:06 AM
Now that is  dedication to getting some books.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: jimmm kelly on May 04, 2013, 06:10:04 AM
I remember in my younger days when I did a summer French immersion course in Quebec--we were put up in the homes of local families. I got a bedroom that belonged to the son of my hosts (i think he was away at university somewhere). In his bedroom, he had a small collection of French fumetti comics (I'm pretty sure these were from France). The kicker is these were all pornographic fumettis.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 04, 2013, 09:27:18 PM
The wife's not liking the idea so far......
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 04, 2013, 10:53:05 PM
ITALY.......A Start.....

I Found this on the 'net some time ago... I found it to be interesting because the Author dealt with the newspaper Dailies, Sunday, and stripped from Comics and such, that ran in the USA being reused in Italy. Have a look (No edits from me) <I lied>:

PART I

"CYCLONE

Marcello Vaccari

Begins in this issue a series of articles that will go to the roots of superhero comics printed in Italy, with an operation of true archeology comics. Having stew read in magazines, fanzines and especially comic books various, repeated inaccuracies on the first appearances of DC characters in Italy, I decided to
shed full light, hunting for books and news among the greatest Italian comic book collectors. All the information you will find in this and the next items come from books in my possession, or that I could see (and copy!) personally. So maybe there will be some omissions, but definitely NO ERROR!.

With the first article I would like to do some 'clarity about what was really the first publication of Superman in Italy. Despite what has been written by almost everyone, the character did not appear for the first time by us in the newspaper "The Bold", but on the number 19 of "The Albi audacity" of 2 July 1939 (then very soon after his American debut) , with the name of the cyclone. As was the practice in those years, the published material came from the pages of American newspapers, and not from books where Superman made his debut on the famous number one "Action Comics", in June 1938. The strips had appeared only as from 16 January 1939, and then the material was not very publishable. Evidently, however, the reception accorded to Cyclone was pretty good, so that the books dedicated to him began to come out on a monthly basis.

Only later landed on the pages of the newspaper L'Audace, since Ranked # 299 of 21 September 1939. Since then you probably unaware of the existence of the Comic Book (or it was not possible to access that source), the American material immediately began to dwindle, and were produced completely new adventures to be published in the billboards, created by the brothers Baggioli, while the original newspaper strips were intended for. It was then for the lack of original material, rather than by order of the notorious MinCulPop (which was circumvented simply by attributing the texts and drawings to Italian) which, after the
first two stories of Siegel and Shuster of the numbers 19 and 25 on Albi audacity came two more adventures made in Italy (in numbers 31 and 34). The designs of Zenobius Baggioli initially try to follow the trail of Shuster, but then they are deviating more and more, and this is most evident in the subsequent books in giant size, where the symbol disappears from the chest (which, however, had never been able Baggioli to understand, since in the first realizations I drew like a shield with a ball in the middle). The stories, Vincenzo Baggioli, are longer and more airy than the American ones, and prefer exotic adventures, as was typical in the Italian comics of the time. Only a small part of the original strips take over some situation.   

Cyclone has no concern to hide his secret identity (so that in the first two books is called even when Cyclone plays the role of Clark Kent), also has been determined that as a journalist calls himself DUB. Also do not even bother for the lives of criminals, and even in the first episode Italian, does everything to kill the bad guy, making him also falling apart the house (without even checking who was inside!), Uttering these words: " All were jailbirds: I believe that justice is done "(!)

These plots certainly testify to the indigenous origin of these books, as well as texts. However, the publishing history of the Cyclone Italic dell'Albogiornale continues in No. 39, and then passes on Albi Juventus in numbers 47 and 55. At this point the Italian production ceases, and on the same Albi Juventus with the number 59 begin to appear in the appendix of the original strips Shuster, after he had stopped the race audacious, and will continue until at No. 82. With the entry of Italy into the war, the provisions of MinCulPop became even more rigid, and all the characters of origin or foreign setting were suspended, including our Cyclone / Superman.

Immediately after the war, always on the head Albogiornale, it is a new character by the name of Cyclone, which has nothing to do with Superman, being rather a parody of man Italian strongman, but evidently intended to leverage the success of from its previous presentation of Superman. The management of the strips of Superman, passed after the war to the newspaper Hooray ', and the entire history of the newspaper and the simultaneous "Collection Masked Man" you can find it in an upcoming issue.

HISTORY

The Albi audacity

# 19 (July 2, 1939) Cyclone Pumping Iron (Siegel & Shuster) with the origin story
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Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 04, 2013, 10:56:26 PM
Continued.....

PART II

Part Three: Collection Masked Man and URRA '!

The most important series of the first world war.

Marcello Vaccari

Continues the series of articles that go to the roots of superhero comics printed in Italy, with an operation of true archeology comics. Having stew read in magazines, fanzines and especially comic books various, repeated inaccuracies on the first appearances of DC characters in Italy, I decided to shed full light, hunting for books and news among the greatest Italian comic book collectors. All the information you'll find in this, in the previous and in the next few articles, come from books in my possession or that I could see (and copy!) personally. So maybe there will be some omissions, but definitely NO ERROR!.

We continue with our "digs", and with this third article we try to bring back to life the two most important series containing material superhero immediate postwar period.

The N
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 04, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
Continued......

PART III

Part Four: The forgotten heroes

Marcello Vaccari

Continues the series of articles that go to the roots of superhero comics printed in Italy, with an operation of true archeology comics. Having stew read in magazines, fanzines and especially comic books various, repeated inaccuracies on the first appearances of DC characters in Italy, I decided to shed full light, hunting for books and news among the greatest Italian comic book collectors. All the information you'll find in this, in the previous and the next items come from books in my possession, or that I could see (and copy!) personally. So maybe there will be some omissions, but definitely NO ERROR!.

We continue with our "digs", and with this fourth article we try to do some 'clarity on the publication of some lesser-known DC superheroes. Since I'm a very short series, I gathered both in the same article, not to chop too much research. In the next article I will of Superheroes born in Italy.

ALBOGIORNALE

In Italy it was published very little material superhero, coming from the American Comic Book of the so-called Golden Age (Golden Age), ie the period between the appearance of the first superhero ( Superman of 1938), to the almost total disappearance of the genre at the end the 40s. One of the few magazines to
have sipped from that source was The ALBOGIORNALE (New Series), which came out 14 numbers between 1947 and 1948. These books were using as a character carrier Cyclone, which has nothing to do with the name that Superman had been baptized before the war. This cyclone was created in the previous series
dell'Albogiornale, Carlo Cossio, and you might also consider a superhero italics, as provided superhuman strength and a very tough skin (also powers the rest of his predecessor). In fact, this character is always supported by a strong vein of irony, which makes it 'almost a parody of the genre that was more in vogue in those years in Italy: the strong man who had many followers, including the founder Lightning published by the same publishing house. But I would rather bring attention to the characters that were his shoulder, and indeed occupied most of the book. Are presented 4 American characters, all drawn from the register MASTER COMICS publisher's FAWCETT , for instance that of Captain Marvel .

The most assiduous is RADAR (which has nothing to do with the eponymous superhero Italian born several years later), written by Otto Binder and drawn by Al Carreno. This character is in all respects be considered a superhero, even though his adventures are mainly of espionage. It has a number of powers, including the right to pick up radio transmissions to read minds and see through walls. All his stories are strongly influenced by the war just ended, and imbued with grudges against the Germans, the Japanese and fascism in general. Almost all end up with a "moral" against the bullies and the loss of freedom. It 'also appeared on the books of Blek and Gionni.

The second character is the beautiful Nyoka (whose name says it all), The Girl Of The Jungle , one of the classic adventure comics in which the protagonist finds all possible ways to showcase her charms, while remaining very chastened. Despite Nyoka you often find yourself in trouble, demonstrates a really strong character, and she is often to bail out the male partner Larry. Very pleasing designs, especially when it is to deal with the great Krigstein.

The third, and most interesting character is Captain Marvel Jr., here renamed Tony Marvel, which is designed by the great Mac Raboy. E 'is the only member of the Marvel family (and we're not talking about the Marvel Comics character who was not even born yet!) Appeared in Italy, until very recent years, and
therefore has a significant historical value. The same character has done some other sporadic appearance in the appendix to other books of the same publishing house. And 'certainly amazing to see that these comic books, hugely popular in America, were virtually snubbed in Italy, where they arrived only productions in strips for newspapers, and not the vast production of the Comic Book.

The fourth character, present only in a register with a long history, is Bulletman , here flanked by his partner Bulletgirl . The two use a "helmet uranium" which allows him to fly, and are thus typical superhero. Created in 1940 by Jon Small, Bulletman has experienced great success at home, resisting until 1949, and having the honor of its own register. These last two characters, have recently been fished out by Jerry Ordway on the pages of the register dedicated to Captain Marvel (entitled Power of Shazam), but I think it unlikely we will see in Italy.

THE GREAT ADVENTURES OF MAN BAMBOO '

At the end of 1954, probably in the wake of the success of Albi Hawk starring Nimbus Kid, was released a short series with similar characteristics, called "THE GREAT ADVENTURES" and dedicated to the Man Bamboo. As was the case with Nimbus Kid, The Man Bamboo is a curious translation (?) Of an American superhero called, in the original, Dollman . This character was born in 1939 on the pages of # 27 Feature Comics, the publisher Quality Comics (whose rights are now held in the DC), from the pen of Will Eisner and Lou Fine , two of the greatest American cartoonist. The character eventually led to a considerable success,
so do arrive in 1941 to its own register, which lasted 47 issues, up to 10/1953, a year before the publication Italian. End Around 1942 he left his creature to another great, Reed Crandall, who in turn left the character after a couple of years in the hands of other artists like Al Bryant distinguished himself. Dollman (which means Doll Man) had the power to compress the molecules of your body shrinks to become the size of a doll, a power almost identical to that of Atom, character in the DC much later. His name, Darrel Dane, was also retained in the Italian version, along with that of his girlfriend Marta Roberts and other actors. The stories published definitely come from the last period of the American publication.In small books of 20 pages, were placed two other characters of American origin, probably coming more from Quality Comics: Fire Arrow, western character of Fred Meagher whose protagonist is an Indian, and Dale Dale comic character who occupied the last 2 pages. Overall, the books are very nice, with good designs and funny stories, comparable to those of the contemporary Nimbus Kid. The covers are taken from the original of Dollman, but with the colors redone (in fact, the costume is green instead of blue). It is never announced following the book, and all the stories (which still are not serialized except Dale Dale) ending in the number 4, which does not rule out a priori that there are others.

HISTORY

ALBOGIORNALE new series

# 1 30/04/47
# 14 02/15/48

Publisher Juventus

LIST OF EPISODES MADE FROM MASTER COMICS
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Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 05, 2013, 12:48:23 AM
to kill the bad guy, making him also falling apart the house (without even checking who was inside!), Uttering these words: " All were jailbirds: I believe

AWESOME would not get that in today's comics
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 05, 2013, 06:30:38 AM
I've gone in and tried to fix the paragraph structure as best as I can determine. Sorry an English teacher I am not.

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 05, 2013, 04:08:39 PM
Yes, you can tell a machine translation, can't you?  This is all good stuff and you're getting closer to the real meat as you approach the original Italian characters.
If you don't already have this link,try:-
http://www.fumetti.org/personaggi/default.htm
And you'll need a read at this:-
http://www.collezionismofumetti.com/
particularly for this:-
http://www.collezionismofumetti.com/fumetti.php?idx=15500
Another Mister X here:-
http://www.collezionismofumetti.com/fumetti.php?idx=26898&l=M

More to follow.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 05, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
Yes you can tell a machine translation. That is why the website links. Thank you once again for the marvelous links please keep them coming. A few I had but that is ok. I appreciate the help. And yes you are right the meat is just being gotten to. If you don't mind I might want to run the main article by you if that is ok with you. Let me know. Thanks in advance Paw and I look forward to what is to follow :-).

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 05, 2013, 07:12:24 PM
As they say in ASDA, "happy to help".
Satanax is a French title.  Quirky superhero with a wee feeble speccy guy who can turn into the mighty Satanax when near a flame.  Reverse Martian Manhunter, anyone?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 05, 2013, 08:06:16 PM

Would you like a read at more modern Italian weekly stories?  Lots here:-
http://corrierino-giornalino.blogspot.it/2012/03/il-razzo-vapore.html
Now I need to have a look for links to Neri and Gialli so you can dig up Kriminal; Satanik; Zakimort; Infernal; Spettrus; Demoniak; Mister-X; Sangoor and the rest.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: jimmm kelly on May 05, 2013, 08:47:27 PM

I've gone in and tried to fix the paragraph structure as best as I can determine. Sorry an English teacher I am not.

Richard


As a sometime teacher of English (albeit as a second language), the one thing I would suggest to anyone posting online is to read their post out loud to themselves: before posting. 

Granted, this advice might be more useful for native English speakers; however, even learners of English usually develop an ear for the language. I get the sense, from a lot of what I read online, that the writers have never bothered to read their text out to themselves. If you read out loud--and pay attention to the places where you pause--that tells you where the punctuation and line breaks should be.

I don't expect posters to know the difference between a dash and a colon, but as long as there's some punctuation, it makes it a lot easier to read. Online, it's probably better to have more line breaks than what you would have in print, simply because of the way things look on the screen.

Now, I'll go back and read this out to myself and put in some punctuation and line breaks.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 09, 2013, 04:31:08 AM
ITALY 1940

# 1

L'Uomo blindato (The Armoured Man) Month ? - 1940

As a character L'Uomo blindato appeared in one story, in the 'Corriere dei Piccoli' in 1940. The layouts were as typical squares, with the words below. It was called L'Uomo blindato (The Armoured Man in English), and it was the young man Spartacus Ferri, who was wearing a mesh outfit, steel mesh, specially treated with the sci-fi equipment, which made him completely invulnerable. Now He was shown in a frantic adventure, to protect the scientist who created it. L'Uomo blindato was a true pioneer, with many points of contact (read: similarities) within the world of superheroes at large and Italy's first true super "powered" hero of the 20th century and the last to be seen until after WW II.

(edited by me)

ITALY 1941

# 2

Maschera Bianca (White Mask) 1941 - 1948

Starting in 1941 and running until 1948, one of the longest running characters in Italian Fumetto, MASCHERA BIANCA fought many battles around the globe in all types of situations. From the ordinary, mundane situations, to the outrageous. The supernatural worlds, Warlords, crooks, would-be world rulers, mad scientist, all were the prevue of the White Mask.

"If there is a district of London where even the cops want to venture out, this is Tidal Basin. Only two people can walk the streets with impunity infested with criminals of all kinds: Gregory Wicks, an elderly taxi driver still in business despite the years, and Dr. Thomas Marfbird, a doctor whose clinic is open day and night to give relief to those who suffers. Of course, the drunken brawls are the order of the day in that place and it is not uncommon for there to escape the dead, but this time the offense on which the chief inspector must investigate and Mason is very different from others. At night, in the middle Endley Street, a man was seen collapsing to the ground by multiple witnesses. It has been stabbed in the heart, but the incredible thing is that none of them knows to provide guidance on the assassin; no one knows where it came from or how he disappeared. The identity of the victim is unknown. Who is the stranger in evening dress who moved to the neighborhood so sordid and infamous? Hampered by a wall of silence, the police try to shed light on a mystery in which truth and legend mingle, a mystery at the center of which there is a face covered by a white mask that man is MASCHERA BIANCA! ."

(1st part by me)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 09, 2013, 07:29:56 PM
Richard, you probably have this link but for others who have noticed your avatar, here's some info on the original Rocambole:-
http://coolfrenchcomics.com/rocambole.htm
And, for those who want a start in the amazing world of French comics and characters, click on this link and enjoy a whole new (old) world - incl. one of my favourites, Fantomette.  (narfstar, spot any similarities to a more modern character?):-
http://coolfrenchcomics.com/index.html
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 09, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
Nice looking character some well drawn covers but not sure what modern character other than Bandette you might be referring to. I have to avoid sites like that because I would end up spending many hours there.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 10, 2013, 12:28:15 AM
I know all about Cool French Comics. Have been there for a few years now, very nice site. Thanks for the link though. Keep them coming I appreciate them. What about the K something one? I am almost done with your DVD. I should finish it this weekend. Things got a bit upended for me with a transfer job wise so I am feeling a a little displaced.

RB
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 10, 2013, 08:30:17 AM
Yes, that was Bandette.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 10, 2013, 10:31:53 AM
Any similarities? I really enjoy Bandette and for only a buck an issue I hope it continues for awhile but not until it gets stale.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 12, 2013, 09:15:21 PM
We return to Prewar Italy (With the USA) Part Two, and, with a follow up with Post War Italy, as an intro to what will come with the Post War Characters that I will start to post soon. The link provided below is the whole article in several parts that will take you to DC's dark italian past to the present and as that didn't really fit with what I am doing here I did not include that here. I hope you enjoy this with very light edits from me.

http://www.mangaforever.net/62978/dc-comics-in-italia-una-sfortunata-vita-editoriale-lunga-70-anni-speciale


Chapter 1 (part 1)

The Prewar with the arrival of Cyclone!

The recent editorial succession beginning of the year between Planeta and RW Lion as publishers of DC Comics in Italy, immediately started with discrete controversy among fans, due to an initial management characterized by (a few) and lights (many) shadows, but above all is emblematic of the historical misfortune that the North American publisher has always enjoyed here with us, then it is worth, on the occasion of the relaunch of its outstanding bonds in DC this month (son of the U.S. for nearly a year Cashing occupying the first places the sales charts), retrace over seventy years of horrific editorial choices which they saw as its protagonists the DC heroes, which sull'italico soil have always been struck by adversity of all kinds, even (and especially) when they had all the cards in order to break through and retain potentially thousands of readers.

With invaluable historical reconstruction of the passionate Marcello Vaccari and his comprehensive articles available online for some years now on the fanzine telematics Glamazonia (get busy with the search engines and you will find some good!), Incorporated and sometimes even extended to other sites, we can now go back with absolute certainty to Italic beginning, in the middle was a fascist (!), the characters DC Comics (then National Periodical Pubblication).

The first sightings occur in fact, already back in 1939, thanks to the forefather of all the heroes in tights or Superman , although not with stories taken from books (started in June of 1938 in America with Action Comics ), but with the daily strips games instead in 1939, and then arrived in Italy almost close to the original edition.

Absolutely the first issue to accommodate super-heroes of the DC should be 19 Albi audacity of 2 July 1939 (!), published at the time by Editions Juventus , with a history of just Superman renamed Cyclone (!) then ( until 1940), appears on three other Albi audacity two of ' Audace ( publisher SAEV-Old ) on a dell ' Albogiornale (the Publishing House Victoria ) and on Juventus Albi (the publishing company New Cremona and Publishing House Vittoria ).

Indeed, given the scarcity of material available on the character were almost immediately commissioned some stories of Italian authors (and will not be the only ones, over the years), or the brothers Vincenzo (lyrics) and Zenobius Baggioli (drawings), is among those who also witnessing significant distortions with respect to the psychology of the character, for example on an adventure Cyclone destroys a house in which he had fled a bandit, saying he was satisfied that he had done justice, however, after having tried to kill him before unceremoniously.

It should be noted then the slew of negative records already in his first appearance, and the name changed, the colorful costume completely red (and yellow pants, when you could tell what color they did), his classic "S" quickly disappeared, translations improbable and alterations / adjustments of the designs until the distortion of the character (with rewrites from scratch stories), we also have a slew of different publishers, almost equal to the number of books published, after starting so searing, a handful of stories random, taken from necklaces also do not original but strips syndicated, published left and right in magazines and various supplements (with different formats and pumping of the cartoons), comes none other than the Second World War to stop immediately any further publication.

And this is just the beginning!

Chapter 1

The Second World War with Wing of Steel, The Ghost and the Eaglet!

A resume Publications DC heroes after the Second World War we think the publishing house Milan (later World Editions ), which reproduce the characters in National on that indicate that many like necklace anthology Masked Man Collection (The series), title, however, never appeared Featured on books that often indeed began with the first table of the story directly as the cover (nice layout publishing decades later will be taken up, through carelessness and

sloppiness, no less than by Rizzoli for his inserts Corto Maltese! ); sometimes could also be used a cover original, often there appeared the main character maybe not even his own name but directly with the title of the story (sigh).

The anonymous necklace weekly from 1945 to 1946 reached the 31 outputs, a dozen of which are dedicated to the DC characters, chief among them Batman (published here for the first time in Italy the number 19), renamed Wing of Steel , perhaps The outlines of her first costume, more squared, sometimes resembling an armature (the one to speak to Detective Comics 27/34), the size was reduced, type booklet, the pages eight (8 diconsi, including the cover!) , and the other DC heroes were presented in turn Green Lantern (obviously the first, Alan Scott!), Crimson Avenger , the Spectre , Hourman and Sandman (renamed before Lightning and then incredibly the Man of the Sand , or in a more adherent to 'original).

The only positive note, so to speak, the use of the stories of the original comic-book and not just those of the daily strips, used primarily on the series. II Collection Masked Man and another series called Hurrah! , by contrast, in addition to the reduced size, the translations uncertain, drawings reworked many stories were directly "modeled" in full by the original transparencies or tracopiate with books by Americans come from us but with the additional passage through the French editions of these books which were the true Italian version (argh!).

Even Superman (renamed a bit 'more appropriately The Man of Steel ), reappears after the War on independent strip of true Collection Masked Man , starting with the number 8 (commonly referred to as II series, actually as I said do not reported no indication on the cover), the head was so named according to the character of the tip which was initially Blue Beetle (Fox then and not yet of DC Comics), also nominated, to simplify things, Phantom of Steel to his first appearance and only after Masked Man (the name by which we will be remembered by the character of Phantom by Lee Falk and Ray Moore).

From number 67 the series changed its name to Collection Man of Steel , just to adapt to the massive presence of the most recurring character, that in the latter period there appear virtually every issue, always on these pages reappear Batman & Robin (the number 58) , but renamed The Phantom & the Eaglet , which continue to be published both here (until 1948) and on a new title called Hurrah! (output throughout 1947, and where he began Robin ), who will share necklace as well as with Superman also with Tarzan . (!)

Regarding sizes (differing from the original), translations (so-so), tracopiature, additions and remodeling of the drawings, nothing will change, however, certainly there were other times, much pioneering, with more objective difficulties in obtaining the original materials, but especially in an era where the sensitivity and care towards the material to be published was the complete opposite of what, after decades of horror editorials, we worked so hard to achieve today, where a logic of respect for the work and the original authors are, fortunately for us, the most universally accepted and especially culturally acquired, both by those who read it to the publisher (though not always, with some exceptions).

In short, they were also real "crimes" (punishable by life to the death penalty:-p), now would be time-barred, certainly, was not very comforting as a beginning, and if you see a good in the morning ...

Chapter 2 - The Mondadori & Nimbus Kid!(Part 1)

Albi The Hawk and the Superalbo Nimbus-Kid!

After a debut that define atrocious, editorially speaking, for the heroes of DC, is an understatement, published at random and pure evil, without the correct format, the credits, the original covers, and often also the stories (because modeled on the transparencies from the pages already printed editions of the American or French), not to mention the free translations and misleading, sometimes even completely adverse to the psychology of the characters, the ball goes to the publishing giant Mondadori few years after the end of World War II.

In May of 1954 in fact part of the series so far the longest running (and probably more successful), dedicated to the heroes of DC in Italy, or those of Albi Falco - Nimbus Kid for sixteen years (until March 1970, through three decades and a few changes of title and sizes!) held on newsstands bench and bring the characters of the Universe Batman & Superman to become popular here too, as you can guess from the title, the name of Superman is changed once again in Nimbus Kid ( The Boy Cloud ... sigh), it is said to avoid having to pay for the rights to her original name, which at the time forced the publisher to change the costume (and mantle) of the character cancellandogli once again the classic "S" and leaving him with a triangolone first red, then yellow (meaningless) on the chest (argghh).

The format was again the booklet, the Mickey Mouse so to speak, because that newspaper publishing already in that format was pretty much a must use it for other characters, more or less aimed at the same target in the same period also, again in May 1954, the Mondadori Varava also the head sister, or the boards of the Rose , another albetto tapped a few pages that had Disney characters (later became the Albi Mickey ), which is also of great success, which allowed given the same format (32 pages a) a reduction of costs typography.

Initially proposals are systematically stories from the major newspapers of the only Man of Steel or Action Comics and Superman , that unfortunately does not change, the old and "rustic" first editions, are the alterations of the drawings (starting precisely from the costume Superman / Nimbus Kid ) and the translations more or less "free" than the original, on which there is little to put my finger on it, if Superman is in fact named once again changed and lifestyle changes, not much better in Batman who suffers the same fate, with the only difference that the costume change him twice.

The first appearance of the Dark Knight is the number 33, after over a year of publications (initially fortnightly), with the first story proposal from the series World's Finest (the one that had the team-up of Superman and Batman ), the costume was stained entirely of red, because of alleged similarities with the Phantom at that time was very popular here as well, however the name was changed to Bat , maybe closer to the original meaning, but which led to aberrations such as the bat-mobile or the bat-plano called Pipistrel-mobile or pipis-mobile and pipis-plano (argh!) or, at best, auton and aeron (sigh and sob!).

Worse goes to Robin , initially held equal to or just do not appointed (or so were avoided imaginative reworking of his original name!), and with the colorful costume before red, like Batman , then sometimes even pink (if nothing else, the Mondadori publish all his books with colorful pages that will alternate with those in b / w two and two are not, in part by limiting the damage) with the number 103 Albi Hawk arrive at weekly intervals, and 105 begin to be finally published stories of the ' Bat Man taken from his main necklaces (ie Detective Comics and Batman ) and especially at least the name is changed to the original one (with all the logical consequences on its connected equipment), the costume is colored instead once again in a busted with the colors red and blue in the opposite way to those of Superman almost to act as his counterpart (type boots and gloves blue, red suit, as opposed to those of the ' Man of Steel ). As they say, really good as "new" beginning!


Chapter 2 - The Mondadori & Nimbus Kid! (Part 2)

From the Comics Code Moral Warranty!With the re-start right in the middle of the 50s in America a lot of magazines dedicated to new DC heroes (and not just the famous Silver Age ), Mondadori finally has something to fill his albetto without resorting to in-house production of his stories, which, however, will continue to do more or less convincingly almost until the end of his publications (if you will still be on, for example necklaces end of Superman and Batman ), then arrive in random order and in dribs and drabs, Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern , the Justice League / Friends of the Law, the Teen Titans, Martian Manhunter / the Hound Martian, Hawkman & Hawkgirl / Falco & Alata, Atom (thankfully not all mangled or renamed so absurd as Supergirl / Nimbus Star, Wonder Girl / Light or Bizarre / Duplex ).

In June of 1960 comes out then a kind of almanac monthly (along the lines of that of Mickey Mouse , as well as size), called Nimbus Superalbo Kid , who after sixty numbers became Batman - Nimbus Kid switching to quindicinalit
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Post by: paw broon on May 12, 2013, 09:26:57 PM
Richard, once again, good work. The thing with Nembo Kid was the rubbing out of Supes S on his chest and when Batman was on the cover, his unicorm colour was different.  Oddly enough, The Phantom had a colour change for his costume in Europe.
I'm sure youalready have this link but if not, try


http://www.fumetto100.it/ita/cronologia.asp
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 12, 2013, 09:46:33 PM
Thanks for all the links Paw. Yes I have had this one just recently, although I take issue with some of the timeline as it skips a lot of info. And for one, Ace of Spades came out in 1945 (when I don't know) but was published in 1946 through 1949 in Argentina and Italy and Pratt moved to Argentina in the late 1940's.

An excerpt from what I will post soon:

"After the war, Pratt moved to Venice where he organized spectacles for the Allied troops. Later Pratt joined the Venice Group with other Italian cartoonists, including Alberto Ongaro and Mario Faustinelli. His inspiration could be traced back to his reading of authors like James Oliver Curwood, Zane Gray, Kenneth Roberts, as well as the comic books by Lyman Young, Will Eisner and mainly Milton Caniff. Their magazine, Asso di Picche, launched in 1945 as Albo Uragano, concentrated on adventure comics. The magazine scored some success and published works by young talents like Dino Battaglia, Rinaldo D'Ami and Giorgio Bellavitis. The character Asso di Picche ("Ace of Spades") was a success, mainly in Argentina, where Pratt was invited in 1949."

but that's just quibbling. The early stuff is well worth the site alone. I will post it when I am almost done with the Italy thing as to give a historical depth to the Italian comic scene as I don't think too many people appreciate the history of Italian comics. After this I know I certainly have a deeper understanding and respect for Italy's contribution to comics, not to mention the new-old characters for me to catalog! How exciting! And.....Maybe I will convince the wife to let me buy some of these Italian books.

By-the-way.
What Italian comics if I were to buy some would not be allowed on CB +? I think it is a good idea to ask before I buy with the intent to scan and upload. Other than that I will buy what appeals to me. Again thanks for the links and keep them coming. Take care.

Richard
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 13, 2013, 06:34:04 AM
ITALY 1945 PART I

For Italy the war is effectively over and the Allied Power was in Command and Control. Here is were we come in as readers. Let us take a look at what is going on........................

# 2*

Asso Di Picchi (L'As de pique, Ace of Spades, 1945-1949)

Published on the pages of the magazine, Asso Di Picchi is a mysterious avenger who fights against the terrible first band of the Panthers, led by a cruel Eastern Fu Manchu. Following the address of Club 5, a sort of forerunner organization Spectre, will live an adventure in Venice and will face the Nazis. In the life of every day we find him in the role of journalist Gary Peters, and no one, including his girlfriend, Deanna Farrell, suspects that he and the masked hero are actually the same person. The Ace of Spades was created by Alberto Ongaro and Hugo Pratt and appeared in the comic strip "Asso di Piche" (Albi Uragano, 1945-1949). Asso di Picche ("Ace of Spades") is a masked vigilante who, assisted by his Chinese servant Wang, fights crime in the persons of the Nazis, the Yellow Peril Band of Panthers, and the Club of the Five. After capturing criminals the Ace of Spades leaves behind his namesake playing card. The Ace's civilian identity is journalist Gary Peters. GIMMY is Gary;s loyal sidekick,


Before the ANAF and then ANAFI: fans of the speech bubbles always have many opportunities to discover and original stories and characters, often live in the memory of readers, but absent for some time from newsstands or from libraries. The beautiful magazine " Comics "offers periodic revivals of the past that this is, in publications for members but sometimes can also be found in some comics, the size of real anthology. It 's the case, for example, of the Ace of Spades, perhaps the first adventurous hero of Italian comic risen about seventy years ago, after the war. They were authors Mario Faustinelli and Hugo Pratt, the great designer then novice, who had discovered the comics during his stay in Africa. The papers of the American soldiers were stories of Milton Caniff, Chester Gould or maybe Al Capp, whose designs captivated the young
Pratt. After the Liberation and the end of the problems of war, around the two authors gathered in Venice a group of young hopefuls and promising, the future writer Alberto Ongaro the future director Damiano Damiani, who with others created the Ace of Spades , a comic that was named after the protagonist of the
main story. In the events of this character mysterious and disguised as Superman was the atmosphere of the great American adventure. But for Italians these stories - that we can judge fairly predictable - they were a novelty, and were discovering new worlds. Behind the mask and the suit with the symbol of the
Ace of Spades, lies a mysterious and courageous journalist who fights crime clan of the Black Panthers and the Club of 5. Performs valiant companies and also manages to preserve the mystery of his identity, ignored even by his girlfriend. The magazine, as all the initiatives lack of funds, his life ended early.
But in the meantime had piqued the interest publisher Civita, a jew Italian refugee in Argentina after the racial laws. So it was that Pratt and many of his friends moved there, some for a short time, others, such as the father of Corto Maltese, for a dozen years. For Pratt was an extraordinary period, especially after meeting with Oesterheld. With writer, a victim of the Argentine dictatorship in 1972, has created unforgettable characters and stories, by Sergeant Kirk to Ernie Pike, Wheeling, etc.. But before he had made ​​other stories of the Ace of Spades, remained unpublished in Italy. Four of these are now collected in the volume dell'ANAFI, curated by Gianni Brunora Gallinari and Paul, with historical and critical interventions that allow you to better frame those years in which the Italian comic became a little 'Argentine, and vice versa, given the durable good relations among the authors of the two countries. Hugo Eugenio Pratt (June 15, 1927
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Post by: paw broon on May 13, 2013, 08:24:55 AM
Richard, your info. on L'Asso di Picche and Pratt & co. ties in with the forward in the reprint L'Asso di Picche albums. 
If you are interested, there is a copy of the French translation of L'Asso di Picche, on ebay France now.
http://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=l%27as+de+pique&_sacat=267&_from=R40
Casterman album. Reproduction is not the best but neither is it in the Italian reprints which, I think are harder to find and more expensive.  The histories in the intros on both languages are much the same and reflect what you have found.
I'd need to do more digging to find out what we could host here but Diabolik, Kriminal and many neri/gialli are out as are the Bonelli titles and anything Pratt.  There are many fallen flags, though and one of your illos has jogged my memory.  Let me have a rake through the shelves.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 14, 2013, 02:33:04 AM
Something Different {4 Paw} / Part 1 of 5

(Edits when only needed)


Since the early twentieth century, literature for young people is to itself as a specific genre with its writers, illustrators and a loyal following. Il Giornale per i bambini , Cenerentola , Il Corriere dei Piccoli, the most famous are the first magazine to introduce humorous colorful illustrations, comics ancestors. These innovative enough securities at the end of XIXth century have become classics, have rather inclined to provide instructional materials, crossbred humor and escapism but still be very educational. With mass literacy, forms an expanded people young readers looking for magazines for their generation (finocchi and Marchetti, p. 11-23).


The birth of fumetto

Some new forms of expression argue with illustrated created in the 30s. The fumetto is the name given to the Italian comics. Etymologically, fumetti (plural) means small smoke, referring to the appearance of bubbles used to talk about the characters. The fumetto inspired by American comics were born with the character of Yellow Kid published in the Sunday newspaper Sunday World in 1896. These comics pages meet such a success, it becomes a matter of competition between newspapers. All media owners hire designers to create new characters. Little Nemo was invented in 1905. These sequences are called comics or funnies because they are essentially humorous. With the economic crisis of 1929, the scenarios are diversifying and approach the police, the western and science fiction. Superheroes renew particularly kind. In January 1929, Hal Foster draws the indomitable Tarzan. The incorruptible cop Dick Tracy was born in Chicago in 1931. Alex Raymond created Secret Agent X-9, Jungle Jim and Flash Gordon. These characters quickly go beyond U.S. borders and land in Europe (see GABILLIET, 2005).

These comics are sold first in England and on the continent. Each country will be at the origin of a particular production. In Italy, Mussolini's dictatorship, its protectionist requirements, accelerate the creation of an Italian school. Indeed, because of the ban on foreign cartoons, publishers will be forced to produce Italian, as noted by Andrea Accorsi: "In the late '30s, a group of publishers, from craft structures, gave the day to a vast production  fumetti which came soon play the traditional dominance of U.S. imports to make them insignificant. "(Finocchi and Marchetti, p. 295)

The transformation of youth magazines is made of four major publishers: Lothar Vecchi (ATMS), Giuseppe Nerbini, Arnoldo Mondadori, and the Del Duca brothers. These events takes place between 1932 and 1935. How the different vendors address these innovations are very intuitive, as experiments. Their businesses are small, except Mondadori, but they all have some experience in the profession, of course, either in the popular editions, novels, or magazines. They have a rather socialist past, but with success, they are close to the fascist state. They are required to comply with the rules laid down by it, but the control of publications will be very gradual.

Lotario Vecchi, from a family of anti-fascist tradition, was born in Parma in 1888 in modest circumstances. He left school at 14 and became a traveling salesman of Booklet novels for Dutch publisher Heiermann . In 1908, being the chief usher in Turin, he organized the distribution in Piedmont. Vecchi decided to start his own business and moved to Spain, where there was a favorable market for popular novels. It opens up Barcelona society Vecchi and Casini Editores by partnering with the sales manager Casini. He obtained a great success with a collection based on the popular Italian authors. Europe is not enough and he sent his brother in 1914 in Brazil to establish a branch. European publications are welcome and even broadcast throughout Latin America. After the First World War, Casa editora Vecchi built his own printing in Rio de Janeiro, Brazilian authors publishes and launches a children's newspaper, Mundo Infantil. A project setup in Leipzig, Germany has started in the 20s but will not happen.

Fortune made, Vecchi returned to Italy in 1923, resumed his activities with the Dutch publisher Heiermann while pursuing his own publishing business still centered on the popular novels.He has His printing Stabilimento tipografico editorial Vecchi, and His own distribution network. Vecchi is interested in children's media market that offers attractive diversification opportunities 2 . Amateur English comics, he signed an exclusive contract with Amalgamated press distribution in Italy, Spain and France. This editor produced in 1930 in London over forty weekly adventure and humor for children. He throws Jumbo in December 1932, one of the first Italian newspaper insert bubbles. Jumbo is a weekly eight to ten pages with color. It costs twenty cents lire (two cents). The title is greeted with enthusiasm by the boys as Leonardo Gori recalls: "Jumbo was the first newspaper they [young people] felt theirs, which distinguished parents and elder brothers" (GORI, 2010).

This is a huge success launched 50,000 copies, with the influx of applications is reprinted and sold 350,000 copies in its first week. Sales specialist, Lothar Vecchi had treated the distribution of the kiosquiers received a bonus based on increased sales. 309 numbers will be published in two series until 1938. Humor and adventure stories are based on comic lighthouse is The Rover Rob W. Booth became Lucio avanguardista , retouched by Enver Bongrani giving it a look of Italian style, Lucio through black shirts 3 before flying to African adventures.

From the beginning, the codes shown include the fascists in their layout. To take advantage of the effect of this success and make the most of the equipment purchased from a British publisher. Societ
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 14, 2013, 03:13:40 AM
# 4**

Tanks L'umomo D'Acciaio (Tanks the Steel Man) November 1945 11/1945 - 1947  1st series 80 issues /  2nd series 1948 24 issues

Tanks was created by Carlo Cossio (November 1945).

Jack Hilton, presumably American, although it is never revealed what his true nationality is, has super strength and invulnerability thanks to a serum, invented by Professor Salvor, an eccentric scientist who lives in the heart of the jungle. Engineer Jack Hilton becomes strong and invulnerable. The similarity with the first Superman, was completed by the ability to make long jumps. Subsequently, Tanks is joined by Wriggle, a super baby. Although this sounds like a copy of the American hero, Tanks is likely the evolution to the highest degree of the characteristics of the mythological hero. Tanks Of course immediately puts his powers to the service of goodness and as Tanks, the man of steel, starts to fight against opponents like Picturesque and the Seven  Mysterious. Following later Tanks will marry the beautiful Maruska, Queen of anachronistic pirates. Along the way Tanks will gain a kid named Guisso as a sidekick with similar powers.

Author, Carlo Cossio had two brothers, Victor and Gino. He began his career making, together with Vittorio, some animated shorts, from 1928 onwards, mainly in small steps. He is then devoting himself to comics working in the "Cartoccino dei Piccoli" and later when the fascist regime which has censored all foreign comics, Carlo Cossio was among the authors who mainly stepped in to create the Italian heroes, which buys him fame in 1938 with Dick Lightning (written by Vincenzo Baggioli) published in The Bold, which continues to work until 1955. Charles created many other characters such as: Furio Almirante (1940), Tanks, the Man of Steel (1945), Kansas Kid (1947), Buffalo Bill (1951). Drew also stories of Gim Toro Lightning, also created by the same author.
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Post by: paw broon on May 14, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
More excellent work, Richard.  Dick Fulmine was very popular, not only in Italy, but in France and Spain.  For a while he donned a domino mask to become Fulmine Mascherato
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 15, 2013, 12:32:37 AM
Yes we will get to him very soon. He is with the December babies. First will come part 3 of 5, then will come the bio on Ciclone,after that comes part 4 of 5, and at last the December heroes, and finally part 5 of 5 before I move onto the next years of Italy's characters (1946 through 1949). How does that sound?

RB (Just got home from work)
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Post by: narfstar on May 15, 2013, 01:55:46 AM
We use fumetti to mean photo comics. I did not know it meant smoke as in word balloons. Learn something new everyday
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 15, 2013, 03:23:51 AM
Part 2 of 5

Giuseppe and Mario Nerbini

La Casa Nerbini was created in 1897 by Giuseppe Nerbini. His first publications had socialist leanings. They publish texts with policies either historical, or contemporary, but attention was paid to the accessibility of titles that are designed to help the worker to help consolidate its remaining culture. They also publish novels, and some editions had considerable success such as Quo Vadis Sienkiewicz sold 200,000 copies in 1903. In addition to publishing, The Nerbini's sold other products such as postcards, coupons fabrics, portraits of Socialist and Republican leaders. Distribution channels were varied, including the library, but also the socialist system, the houses of the people and the workers circles. (IACCIO, 1983, p. 444-452).

After the war of Libya in 1911, the editorials change, socialism gives way to nationalism. Thus, the magazine called The Valore italiano, exalted characters and discoveries of the peninsula. The evolution of this publishing house is emblematic of the political environment and is also linked to the inauguration of Mario Nerbini, his son, a convinced fascist. In 1928, the entire family poses for a  photo in black shirt, as suited activists National Fascist Party in their satirical weekly, 420 . This clear support to the fascist movement will subsequently Casa? Nerbini. However, it is shown with the youth, that is confirmed prosperity for Nerbini. His real success is the avventuroso, as nicely described by Ezio Ferraro "star in the cosmos fumetti"(Ferraro, 1969).

The title was launched in 1934: eight pages that are revolutionizing illustrated children books! With his series Flash Gordon, he has the exclusive rights and other superheroes, like Phantom X9, the title achieved huge print runs with over 500,000 copies sold. The newspaper is a great place for superheroes and
abandons the burlesque altogether. One moves away from the comedy universe dedicated to children as developed by the English newspapers.


Arnoldo Mondadori

Is another editor, on a totally different scale, who is keenly interested in fumetto . Arnoldo Mondadori begins with the printing trade in 1912 and he retains this activity throughout his career. In 1918, he launched his newspaper industry and created the children's newspaper Girotondo, then he founded his
publishing house in 1919. He first publishes books for children, because the school reforms had the obligation of education, generated significant needs for textbooks, educational books, and illustrated books.
He launched his first series of adult literature in 1920 with Le Grazie .

Between 1920 and 1930, he laid the technical foundations, as financial and political editor of the industrial era. His success stems from a union between traditional publishing end of genre and popular editions molded after the soap opera. With his intuition, Mondadori thought he must invent a new tool adapted
to the tastes of new readers born with literacy. He sees himself as an industry, before becoming a man of culture, a very provocative design in a country where the culture had always been primarily reserved for intellectuals, and therefore designed for an informed elite. As it's publisher, he is interested in all literary genres as well as documentaries and organizes its editorial production from varied collections, looking for quality at all levels.

Thus, in 1929, he launched an iconic series I libri gialli. This success is such that the term giallo (yellow) has become synonymous with Italian thriller. Other collections are known as Medusa which publishes major foreign authors. In 1929, his company employs eight hundred people, and is divided between the
different branches of the printing press business and publishing. His approach met with a favorable response from the regime that wants to expand the educated and also control the public taste. Thus, Arnoldo Mondadori get loans, grants and pilot projects such as the edition of the works of Gabriele d'Annunzio and textbooks. Mondadori remains an entrepreneur capable of many compromises for the sake of his company while having enough experience to maintain his objectives. For example, he will continue to translate foreign works despite the reluctance and even bans by the fascist government (Decleva, 2007).

The youth wing is therefore interested in new productions and his house is closely following the evolution of fumetti . Mondadori comes in contact with the Disney company. During a trip to Italy, representatives meet Mondadori and offer him exclusive rights to Mickey, preferring that their production is managed
by an established publisher. In France, they chose Hachette. A tripartite agreement is reached, Nerbini is compensated. Mondadori created a company to manage Topolino, it is called the Walt Disney Edizioni Mondadori and administered by Cesare Civita, in collaboration with the writer Cesare Zavattini and artist
Federico Pedrocchi. This team impulse is born as the Italian Disney school. The firm gives them permission to create original stories and italianis
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 15, 2013, 04:55:10 AM
# 5**

Ciclone 1945

(appears in November or December 1945?)

Called "The Atomic Man" or even "The Strongest Man in the World," Cyclone is a kind of modern Hercules protagonist type of sorts. With grand adventure stories seasoned with a pinch of humor. Ciclone is Big, and bald, with a double chin and two thick eyebrows, but he is always elegantly dressed at every opportunity. He is capable of incredible feats (for example - He onced faced with his bare hands a lion which had escaped from a circus) this funny character does not take himself too seriously. Ciclone, Our national Hero (as are still Andrea Lavezzolo & Carlo Cossio), with the typical appearance in dell'omaccione forzutissimo (a kind of Bud Spencer), clear follower of Dick Lightning. Even the look of the main character, bald and burly, it is evident that the comic is cutting, rather grotesque, and humorous, making it more a parody of the genre, that a real comic book hero. However Cyclone has a real super strength, and also his skin is very tough, these requirements that are common to the previous character who had borne the name of Cyclone before the war, Superman himself.

Creator

Andrea Lavezzolo (Paris, 12 December 1905 - Chiavari, 16 November 1981) was a journalist, writer, and cartoonist in Italy. He is remembered for being the creator of characters and stories for numerous comics he drew or wrote for, among others, like cartoonist Edgardo Dell'Acqua, Carlo Cossio, Andrea Bresciani, Pietro and Francesco Gamba, EsseGesse of John Sinchetto. In particular, he was the creator in 1950 of Kinowa, and,in 1958, a creator of popular strip of western comics, the Little Ranger, whose stories were then carried out since the seventies by Lina Buffolente.He has Awards and prizes in competitions for comics authors, He was the honorary president of the National Association Friends of the comic. Specializing in adventure stories, Lavezzolo has been known to challenge himself in the segment of the drawing comic characters such as creating Fildiferro and Scaraffone, Cucu, Biribi, Wimpy, and Poldino .

Born in the French capital from father to son of immigrants from Liguria and French mother, he returned to Italy in 1913 and settled with his family in Panesi (fraction of Cogorno, in Val Fontanabuona and soon abandoned his studies to start a career. Lavezzolo began in his twenties to write for some magazines specializeing in female world and adventure novel) stories, poems and novels (The Broken Idol is the title of his first job). Only since 1940 has Lavezzolo approached the world of comics writing the first scripts for Saladin and Dick Lightning, a character created and designed by the duo Vincenzo Boggioli and Carlo Cossio. The first successful character - Gim Toro (to be published until 1959 ) - was developed in 1946 for the publisher Gino Casarotti together with the designer Edgardo Dell'Acqua. The stories of the popular character will then be designed by Giuseppe Perego , Antonio Canale and Angelo Saccarello. Among the other characters created by Lavezzolo from World War II until the fifties include, in addition to the Little Ranger - alter ego of Captain Miki - Geki Dor, Condor Gek, Tony Hawk, Kinowa (since 1950 ), White Mask (since 1946 ), Fulmine Mascheto (since 1947), until Cyclone and Calam, the panther of the West. As a journalist and writer Lavezzolo has edited several collections of books, including that of Albogiornale while for the newspaper Il Giorno took care of the comics page, and - from 1957 to 1966 - the weekly supplement of The Day Boys. As a writer of stories for comics closed his career, before retiring in retreat to the Blackboard devoting himself to the series he dominated. He left a series of feature articles on characters from the world of comics published in the seventies by the magazines Sgt Kirk and The Comics.
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Post by: fate man on May 15, 2013, 09:23:55 PM
Wow,that is awesome.,I Never knew that.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 16, 2013, 03:08:02 AM
KInda cracked my forehead last night, so I am taking this night off from posting. I will return with more of the wonders of Italy tomorrow. I hope you all are liking this stuff. I have found it fun just finding the bits here and there, and trying to make heads or tails of it. Great fun though. Thanks all for the comments they are definitely greatly appreciated y'all.

Richard
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Post by: fate man on May 16, 2013, 10:25:18 PM
You're welcome.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on May 17, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Part 3 of 5

The three major publishers, Vecchi, Nerbini, and Mondadori had engulf the market and provided mainly the King Features Syndicate product. Without sufficient funds, but also because of the price of equipment, Del Duca brothers try to focus on local production. However, the U.S. supply is essential and they are looking for an affordable comic. They mainly buy the Chicago Tribune-New York News Syndicate belonging to Joseph Medill Patterson, the great rival of Randolph Hearst. They sells very popular series like Terry and the Pirates by Milton Caniff, Little Orphan Annie by Harold Gray or Dick Tracy by Chester Gould. They are also looking for local artists, and they discover Walter Molino, iconic designer: "I was still going to school when Domenico Del Duca asked me to draw designs for the Intrepido" Molino said in an interview (MOLINO, 1995).

The illustrated brothers Del Duca are sold at a budget price, 10 cents cheaper than twice Topolino price. Their products are manufactured at the lowest cost. Their potential audience is not wealthy, the people have very limited income for cultural products, especially women and children of lesser means. This subtracts money from household income or money for shopping. The pennies saved to buy a magazine, tricks or lipsticks are valuable because they are rare, this purchase requires a sacrifice and it does not disappoint. The title that gives a reputation for the brothers Del Duca is the Intrepido, the weekly adventures of the flagship title fumetto Italian. Established in 1935, it is published until 1997.

Quickly, the three brothers split, Cino Del Duca immigrated to France in 1932 and he started the first comics with the adventurous Hurrah. Domenico Alceo founded their own publishing house under the name Universo's Intrepido and is primarily the work of Domenico Del Duca. Melodrama, with tears, betrayal and suffering, filled the adventures of The Intrepido. The titles of the stories express the editorial line of Giovinetto eroico, Olga Orfana eroica, Povera mamma, and Principessa mendicante. These stories are directly inspired by popular melodramas handled by the brothers. They are fairly different from the American-inspired superhero series with their stories and their disheveled contacts. Intrepido fits the very long series Cuore garibaldino, designed by Ferdinando Vichi, he began in 1935 and it lasts until 1943 (Antonutti, 2013).

This patriotic saga illustrates a very typical kind of production at the time. These series of romantic mix suites with a great history. Scenarios magnify legends exalt the pride of the Latin people, Rome is often invoked. When stories do not take place in Italy, distant and exotic lands are preferred such as Africa and Asia. The bad guys are foreigners. Italians cannot be a nation of heroes. Love inspires pink series, the most famous is The Principle azzurro written by Domenico Del Duca. The adventures of prince charming honeyed the passionate teenagers attracted by the glowing drawing Antonio Salemme. This long story is set in India. The young Selim saves Greyhound, of course inevitably, the princess, love develops between them. But the father of the girl, a Raja, refuses this union. In The Intrepido, with stories of western Bufalo Bill (with one F), stories of pirates and sailors with Roland Eagle, always mix with love and feelings. This sentimental production termed "Giornalino lacrimevole" anticipates publications of postwar Italy (Favari, p. 66).

Intrepido, The magazine is announcing the triumph of the photo novel, the basis for the future success of brothers Del Duca. The female audience is still shy. Girls are still less educated than boys and the few magazines devoted to them are very didactic. These tales lay the groundwork for what would become the heart of the press. What the Del Duca brothers would create postwar, were both in France and the Grand Hotel in Italy, the two best-selling weekly in the 1950s (see Antonutti, 2012). The comic strip is gradually taking hold in many newspapers for children. The Catholic Church launches It Vittorioso in December 1936 on the initiative of an anti-fascist and progressive priest, Don Regretti. This 8-page illustrated in color, similar to other illustrated adopts the bubbles, he mixes the sources, there are adaptations of Bible stories but it also invites authors whose Italian Raffaele Paparella or Kurt Caesar who wrote the saga Romano, airman legionary. An edit form contributes significantly to anchor fumetto in society: the complete stories
or supplements identified in Italy under the name of Albi . They are based on the comic books from America who gathers in a small size sold at good prices the best stories published Sunday. Around all the magazines, publishers multiply special issues on a character or series. These small booklets are on sale for long lengths, and often they are not dated. They can be bought in very diverse shops, groceries, dry goods, street shops and bookshops. They can be noted by their colorful and attractive cover. They are better suited to the preservation and collection as illustrated art. They form an important part of comic book publishing.

Vecchi, Nerbini, Mondadori and Del Duca are the precursors of illustrated comics in Italy. They participate in the creation of a school of designers - fumetti. Writers and illustrators such as Luigi Bonelli, Federico Pedrocchi Carlo Cossio, Corrado (Kurt) Caesar, Giuseppe Cappadonia, Walter Molino, etc.. spend in their pharmacies. Very quickly, all publishers made calls to authors from the peninsula. Several reasons explain this local production. The economic imperative mingles with political compromise. In fact, sold inexpensive, the fumetto was nothing fancy. Now at that time, it is both difficult and expensive to use foreign translations because the system monitors their import and regularly banned (see Carabba, 1973).

Fumetto and fascism progressive control

The organization of censorship

When he came to power, the fascist regime put in place monitoring information through a press office. Benito Mussolini was considering the freedom of the press, in a speech in 1928 he said: "The Italian journalism is free because it is a single event, the Plan" (OTTAVIANI, 2008, p 7.). In 1933, a secretariat under the press is set up, it is headed by Galeazzo Ciano, Benito Mussolini's son in law. Mussolini expands his areas of influence tourism, radio, theater or cinema. Mussolini organizes an administrative structure with directions that share control of the Italian and foreign press and are in charge of propaganda. Seven offices in regions turn his words into actions. It communicates the "Eveline" Mussolini, these instructions are sent several times daily to newspaper executives with precise information on the subject to be treated, or not, space and place that these topics were taken (see OTTAVIANI, 2008 ).

Galeazzo Ciano is based on the operation of the Ministry of People's Education and propaganda created by Goebbels in Germany in March 1933. Ciano as Goebbels aim to unify the information policy and culture in a mass propaganda. The plan coordinates three forms of censorship. It is repressive, preventive and productive. Thus, in 1925, the regime hostile to newspapers are banned, critical articles are prohibited. In addition, a monitoring system is set up to avoid any problems and the state encourages and financially
supports publishers who value its convenient publication. For example, in cinema, the state organizes everything a production aid system. But censorship is not only legislative and administrative, it also works with a network of relations and acquaintances.

The Plan is intended to form a new Italian, Latin and imperialist would be for a greater Italy. It does not seek to establish a normative state of art but would like the artists, journalists, designers make the people participate and that it is also an activist, a cultural actor. In 1935, the Undersecretariat is transformed into the Ministry of Press and Propaganda. The bureaucratic organization is in place and is broadening its functions. The department now manages the capture and removal of logs, depending on power before the Directorate General of Public Security. Mussolini appoints the editors of newspapers. Faced with restricted access to paper, Mussolini sets the paging and organizing a mixed economy paper company. In 1935, Italy entered the war with Ethiopia, the regime mobilized public opinion and the war effort is required in this country. In June 1936, Dino Alfieri replaces Galeazzo Ciano who is engaged in a military campaign (see CASTRONOVO 1973).

Until 1935, Press for youth is not really affected by these measures. The government believes controlling the activities of the youth. Mussolini established the Balillas a curricular framework with sporting activities, cultural and military. It also promotes the creation of libraries and widely using editing books for children, the school offers the unique state books. It publishes a magazine It Ballila since 1923. Naively, he did not imagine that young people could choose other proposals and recognized that the culture imposed by the school itself. (DE GRAZIA, 1981).

Thus, the fumetto Italian-American is virtually ignored. Furthermore, the initiators are quite close to the regime. Thus, Mario Nerbini,who is considered a pro-fascist joined the first hour. The regime therefore grants him some favors like not too interested in L 'avventuroso . Other publications indirectly benefit from this influence. In addition, the fascist regime remains fairly lenient vis-
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 18, 2013, 03:51:31 AM
The December Babies Part I

# 6**

Misterix December 1945

Created by Max Massimino Garnier and Paul Campani (1946).

In part inspired by superheroes U.S., then still little known in our country, Misterix wearing a robust red suit and draws his power from a tiny nuclear device inserted in the belt which, when properly adjusted, it can stun an opponent or destroy a house . In every day life he is called John Smith and he is a
reporter for the Globe. But post-war Italy is certainly very different from the United States, and often his gimmick fails or is not charged. HE creates an atomic device capable of emitting energy beams, and attaches to a belt of a red suit (initially blue), which closely resembles the armor of certain heroes of modern technology. In some episodes is even able to fly, which is then forgotten, or perhaps discarded. In the last episodes of the series, however, the atomic device was no longer used (perhaps it was definitely spoiled), and remained only the suit to make it resemble a "super". The adventures of this character are then progressed, with better luck in Argentina.

George "Max" Massimino Garnier (1924-1985) was producer, screenwriter and filmmaker. His vivid profile is plotted in the following letter, written by the historian and film critic Giannalberto Bendazzi. As pointed out by Bendazzi, Garnier played a key role in the old festival of Lucca, and he was named the organization that for years, between various events, organized the comic events that has continued through the experience. With this retrospective, Lucca Animation wants to pay tribute to one of the men at which the animation is more Italian. Do not you taking the opportunity to write your own fiftieth anniversary, you would not have wanted you first, you were graduated in mathematical physics (and universite one of the most stringent in the world, the Normale di Pisa) but not you lost opportunity to say that math and everything but the patterns and stiffness. You were born in Turin On October 7, 1924 como George Massimino-Garnier (note the accent: Garnierrnrr needed to be said, but all equivocavano the pronunciation and speaking Garnier said, without you I lose time to correct them, as to the rules of baptism, George was immediately relegated on official documents and it was you became universally Max). Desti the best of you in Modena, the Film Paul. You died in Rome on 21 December 1985.

Giannalberto Bendazzi:

"Why do you write?

Because you have been one of the greatest figures of Italian fumetti and also internationally in the last fifty years. And as the century and the millennium are about to end I would like the young people of your and my world (the animation, in fact) they know it and you will not forget. Like the way it's going, why ... But first things first.

In 1954 he laid the foundation in Modena, together with Paolo (Paul) Campani, the Film Paul. He drew, you were writing texts and textures. There ingrandiste and you did luck when state television, RAI, invented the advertising formula known as "Carousel", a minute and a half of pure entertainment plus 30 seconds
of "tail" advertising. It was then, from 1957 onwards, which really was born of Italian small-scale industry: because the cartoon became the king of "Carousel," and you of Paul, and then Bozzetto, Gamma Film, the Pagot, De Mas, Picard, Biassoni, Cavandoli and many other coglieste the occasion of that minute and a half to do a lot of small series with many small characters often very pleasant. You and Paul you made Toto and Tata, Angelino, Pupa and Bob, the Merendero and do not know how many more others. For fifteen years you were among the most fertile and rich Italian producers of animation.

Then Paul broke up and you went to Rome to coordinate, for the Crown Film Festival, the project of the Fables of Europe: over 40 short films, each a traditional tale for children of a country in Europe, made by a film-makers of the country itself in co-production with Italy. In 1976 died Ezio Gagliardo, head and soul of the Crown, and your direct contact. You left the company but you remained in Rome, founding the Cineteam with producer Aldo Raparelli and the painter-animator Manfredo Manfredi. Finally got the damn melanoma. You had always said, joking but not too much: "Diseases? If I know that someone gets sick do not go to see him, not gil phone, do not write. Gearbox city!, Or:" Dying? E'solo a chance, based on the incontestable fact that so far all the humans are dead. But I can very well be the exception. "Did you play the coward to do, or rather were too ironic to show that you were brave. But as a young man had practiced fencing, and in 1952 you had been at one step from being selected for the Olympics in Helsinki. Eri, inherently, a fighter. Death has never been a tougher opponent for you to fold. Rinunciavi not to come to the festival, partecipavi conferences, and you were kidding (not seem) fair. During periods when the hospital did soggiornavi proselytizing in favor of animation at doctors and intermieri, and every time your folder radiographs was ready, I handed her the laughing: "Here is his story-board, doctor."

You wrote and wrote advertising films, but soon premiastissimi unavailable or missing. Fables of Europe you had been a sort of itinerant artistic supervisor, but from the many tips from poor single footprint as a creator. Metamorpheus (1970), the short film for which collaborasti with the Czech Jiri Brdecka and was a powerful, emotional hymn to freedom of art, is not projected for decades. No festival casts even the 14 mini-movies a minute that realizzasti with Paul Campani, 4 in 1966, 10 in 1973: aphorisms, jokes, flashes opera or sarcastic. Brilliant, excellent. And forgotten. You, Max, you were a genius really. One of the most intelligent and creative people who have ever met in my entire life. Did inhale, correct, stimulate, to bloom, to instruct, encourage: Did you know you clear your mind of those who listened to the preconceptions gangrene years, you knew how to bring to Italy the animation of the post-disneiana Upa and the art of McLaren and Alexeieff . You were the charismatic leader of the group that sparutissimo praised and
widespread in our country's provincial and subversive ideas, on the level of style, durability and technology, the animation copyright mercantilist Sixties and Seventies developed in the rest of the world. You were the pivot of the best Italian animation festival ever organized, to Abano Terme (1970-1971), then partly transhipped in Lucca in conjunction with that on the comics. Did you have a culture that any encyclopaedist of any age would have envied. There was no matter, scientific or humanistic, that you were not familiar and on which I had a new point of view and not trivial. But-attention-you were not an author.

This is also why your movies are few left, and closed the drawers. You were a screenwriter, or rather, as I had taught him to say Brdecka in Bohemian, a dramaturg. Did you know tell the stories. And for most in the know tell better, much better, orally or in writing. In the conversation you had no equal in the world and a story heard by you, face to face, it was a gift worthy of the gods. In particular, when inanellavi anecdotes of mathematicians from the higher mind and unregulated, such as Albert Einstein, Evariste Galois, Blaise Pascal. You could not help but listen. Once you met Osvaldo Cavandoli in Piazza Duomo, Milan, at 10 am. Osvaldo was in a hurry, a business appointment. At 3 pm he had not yet moved one meter, was still there to hang from your lips. Another time, at a festival, you began to tell me about episodes, judgments and
paradoxes at 5 in the afternoon, we had dinner together, we took the coffee, we sat in the lounge of the hotel, one in the morning I challenged him: "I am 22 years younger him, I can not give in first. " At 5 am you interrupted me while explaining it the differences between Picasso and Braque, and went crashing
dress on my bed.

You were talking (with a preliminary horrible, it must be said) fancese and English, you were born of a mixed marriage, Protestant and Catholic, and all this gave you an amplitude of views and a natural grace that were rare in your generation. For me, born after the war, it was much easier to accompany you on this
path. The entertainers were your familglia. Alexandre Alexeieff, Norman McLaren, Lotte Reiniger, John and Faith Hubley, Jiri Trnka, Jiri Brdecka, Yoji Kuri, Ion Popescu-Gopo, George Dunning, all men of the School of Zagreb and in particular its producer Zelimir Matko, Jan Lenica, Peter F
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 18, 2013, 03:55:48 AM
The December Babies Part II

As happens to fathers and children, the teachers and pupils (Freud docet) also there was a confrontation between us. The animation Italian was growing up, he wanted the foundation of un'ASIFA-Italy. You were the Italian representative in the International Steering, but did refer to the group of organizers of the
festival of Lucca, from which the sketch, the Cavandoli, the Gianini & Luzzati, Manuli I did not feel represented. I met in Milan during your visitalampo and I begged him to come over to our side, to be our leader. There you thought of a couple of weeks then you said that you would have seemed unfair. So in
Zagreb, in 1980, both you and I (I delagato from ASIFA-Italy) concorremmo elections to the International Steering, were days of bickering and squabbling, thankfully never between you and me. And at the end risultammo both elected, and the first thing you did was to explain to you the little tricks of the meetings of the board. We were on different positions, but nothing had changed between us.The last time I saw you was in Rome, in September 1985, when I came for a job that had nothing to do with the animation. Thou accompanasti Fiumicino airport for my return to Milan. On Fiumicino pouring a scary time, you were in a good mood and I thought I had a bad appearance. Two weeks later I telefonasti asking me to join you, because you had the books and designs to give me. I understood him perfettament what you meant, but health problems (mine), family and work forced me to give up. This will regret forever. When you died in December, I was doing a etage in Berlin. It was then that comincai furiously writing my history of animated film, which was released in 1988 under the title of Cartoons and who later had the French editions (1991) and Anglo-American (1994), corrected and expanded I devoted the edition in English to my other teacher, Robert Edmonds. I wanted to dedicate the 1988 to your memory. I did not. I was still too shy and too confusing. This letter is also to remedy this.

Twenty years ago the curtain came down on Carousel, but none of those who have seen it - big or small they were then - he has never forgotten. Its initials optimistic, those of his characters, "soft", his subtle irony and sometimes bitter, the piece of music from vaudeville, the magic created by the foley artists who built the scene, scenes, along with the designers. The Carousel has said goodnight half Italian, but more than anything else of its era. The era of TV gentle teaching, which was popular without being vulgar.
Few people know that the carousel has invented almost everything pencil Paul Campani, born in 1923: man talented, visionary and self-effacing, who had grownup with the books of Mickey Mouse and those of Flash Gordon (owned since the first issue). Campani founded a note and pioneering production house of commercials and animated cartoons: and became so famous that in the fifties the Walt Disney noticed him, calling him by a prestigious position. But Paul Campani, retiring from that artist as he was politely decline the offer of life, not wanting to leave his Modena. Now all of his work is on display for the first time at Modena: "Paul Campani, comics and cartoon Carousel", you can visit the Forum Boarium of Modena, until
28 October. But very, very much you can see on the website www.paulcampani.it, edited by the Cultural Paul Campani, with the support of the Fondazione Cassa di Risparmio di Modena and the collaboration of the Municipality. We will present a selection. In all, 400 original drawings, caricatures from early youth
(even the little man with a mustache that is a kind of caricature of Alfonso Bialetti Cavalier) Argentine comics, from the genesis of the characters up to the Carousel gadgets merchandising vintage. At the end of the thirties Paul Campani, he was noticed by a local newspaper. They arrived so the first commissions that did not involve only Paul, to which belonged the realization of the design in pencil, but also his brother Ferdinand and his sister Rosa, who occupied respectively inking strips and writing of baloon. At sixteen, in 1939, Paul made his debut on the pages of Albi Intrepido, published by the publishing house Universe. Just nineteen he was invited to Milan, where he passed the selection to collaborate on The Rose of Baghdad, the first famous Italian animated feature produced and directed by Anton Giulio Domeneghini.

But it is in 1954 that Campani opens its "studios", a real studio, consists of a building adjacent to the animation industry in the suburbs, where he led their so-called "pigtails" live animated or those of different Carousels Carousels entirely built on acting. From the sound stage of the Paul movie, they passed many. Giorgio Gaber, Antonella Steni, Elio Pandolfi, Peppino Di Capri, Francesco Mul
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on May 18, 2013, 09:43:16 PM
Wow,richard,that is very informative,keep up the good work.
Allen
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 21, 2013, 02:04:04 AM
This 20,000 word limit is frustrating and the way this formats after carefully formatting this in word and the like just to see the piece get destroyed here and its just UGH!

Anyways.....I was going to do the bio's n stuff for the characters from 1946 through 1949 and then I was going to make a ZIP file or two for covers for you all. but along the way I discovered a few "new" characters.

Have you ever heard of:

Teschio Nero?
Giustiziere Scarlatto?
and Arcana?
Ipnos?
Hara Sahib? (1949) A& hIS Assistance name?


And thats just for 1946 and 1947 (and maybe 1948 not sure on Hara Sahib)

so as I now have to research those it is taking me a bit longer. So....there. Now you get part 5 of 5 of Italian Comics pre and post war Italy up to 1950's more or less before you get the bio's. Hope you don't mind. More to come so stick around. Let me know what you think of part 5. It was suppose to be the Big Bang Up finish. O well.... back to the drawing board.

RB @ home.
Title: Out Of Town
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 23, 2013, 04:44:46 AM
I will be out of town starting on the 24th probably late evening and not returning until the following weekend as I go on a short vacation (8 days!). I will not have internet access so nothing new will come from me during that time. Which is fine it will give me time to sort through the covers for my "Tour Of Italy" Zip file I am making for a future Upload, and I will be STILL working on the Bio's for the Italian crime fighters /super heroes. Such a confusion here. Just when I think I have it "nailed" I find more.....sigh.... Now we find Machero Bianca, Furio Almirante, LA PATTUGLIA DEI SENZA PAURA (not really either but still relevant I think), Il Nemico Invisible, *Wriggle The Super Baby*, and a few others......I am making a list and will probably shoot it over to Paw before I leave to see if he can tell if I have missed anyone prior to 1950. Anyways, this is just an FYI and I hope you all like the series so far. I have updated part I of the bio's and have added a whole bunch more to the History of Italian Fumetti. Check it out.

RB @ home
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 23, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
I think you need to write a AE article or a book if you have enough. A WORLD OF MASKED ADVENTURERS.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on May 23, 2013, 04:54:33 PM
Richard, I'd be happy to read it over but you're giving me more credit for my knowledge than is due - but I love it.  Hate to tell you but I've found a few more.  Problem is, they could be versions/copies of heroes you already have on your posts.  Maschera Bianca ( I'm sure you just mis-spelled it)  turns up a bit as a name and there was a French landscape series in the '50's with a Masque Blanc.  I have a couple of issues somewhere, so I need to check the indicia - although often that doesn't help.  Have I missed it or have we got to Maschera Nera yet?  No, too recent, I think.  Good masked cowboy comics, though.  And there was a superhero back up in some issues - Atomik.
We're in the realm of pocket libraries here, of which there were loads all over Europe and there has been a discussion on
http://comicsuk.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5542
mostly about British titles but it might be worth a quick look.
Enjoy your break.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 23, 2013, 11:20:45 PM
I misspelled it? Maschera Bianca? Um... <blush> How is it spelled? Yes Maschera Nera a western character set in the old west. I am trying to concentrate on characters that were contemporary to their times, lord knows I cannot take into account the masked men of the old west (although I'd love to) and if I did I'd never finish cataloging! I have a deep love for them as well. The US ones are very cool and I see the European and UK ones are too. Maybe someday once I am done with the current cataloging project I will get back to those wild west, jungle guys and gals, and my 2nd greatest love, those sci-fi space cases of the distant future (and not so distant future) as there are a ton of them as well. In the US I'm dealing with (accounting for costume variations) nearly 2100 characters of the "super hero/masked man/crime fighter variety. Throw in now what I currently know about the rest of the world and that number shoots up to almost 3200. That is taking in all media's from 1929 through 1978 from around the world (exempting the USA, their cutoff point is 1961 for comics). I'm not too sure about Japan's media (outside of comics / manga), I am still mulling that one over. I am sure I'm not done discovering more characters yet, as I can almost bet there are more out there waiting to be found. Amazing isn't it.

Richard (waiting to go to a birthday dinner <not mine!>)

An aside. Atomik was in the 1950's wasn't he? I've not quite gotten there yet. I will be doing a brief 1950's thing in June, with a real quickie on the 1960's & 1970's as my cutoff point of my current timeline for Italy for now is 1962 until I have time to do more research on the massive info on that era in Italy's fummeti's history.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on May 24, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
At the minimum you have an AE article but could be a book
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on May 24, 2013, 09:07:39 PM
Jim, Maybe once I have all of the stuff done from the USA and all the other contries (and I have done a great deal of stuff with the USA during the Good Guys and Gals days) I could do a book,  AE might be a go, I know Roy, I've given him stuff over they years here and there, just like I've given International UK stuff info over the last decade or so, although it doesn't seem he's updated his site much lately. Who knows? I've got to have something to do when I retire in 10 years from now.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 01, 2013, 04:26:02 AM
Le Masque Vert

As I work on my current project (Italy) and my next semi-major project (France 2014) I found that Victor Fox being the continental gent he was, perhaps nicked the Green Mask as well. Check out the attachment.

RB still on vacation but off to San Simeon tomorrow to see the 3rd level of Hearst Castle..... then home.

Republished in 1947 in France in the "Victory Collection" # 2. This is before the war in 1938

http://www.ebay.it/itm/330841470875?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_809wt_1167

Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on June 01, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
Wow,that is awesome,richard,when will the book be written?
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 02, 2013, 09:07:39 PM
Well thank you "Fate Man". You are always so kind. I do appreciate that. No book here. But I do hope you have had fun with the stuff I have provided for you here. I know it has been educational for me beyond what I could have ever imagined.

I now dream of an Italian Justic Society (Sociedade da Justi
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on June 02, 2013, 10:18:50 PM

Well thank you "Fate Man". You are always so kind. I do appreciate that. No book here. But I do hope you have had fun with the stuff I have provided for you here. I know it has been educational for me beyond what I could have ever imagined.

I now dream of an Italian Justic Society (Sociedade da Justi
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 03, 2013, 08:55:40 AM
The Last issue # 23 (or was it # 24) was done "artisticly" meaning I had my crappy catalog drawings done but Darring did not have any colored. I had all the biograhies outlined with the stats and timelines done as well as the start and stop dates. So mostly the issue was I'd say 70 percent done. The next issue # 25 was to be a double sized issue with 50% USA/English speaking charcters Vs the othe 50% being non English speaking characters from around the world. So there you have it Allen.

RB off to bed and hopefully a good nights sleep
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on June 03, 2013, 11:49:13 AM

The Last issue # 23 (or was it # 24) was done "artisticly" meaning I had my crappy catalog drawings done but Darring did not have any colored. I had all the biograhies outlined with the stats and timelines done as well as the start and stop dates. So mostly the issue was I'd say 70 percent done. The next issue # 25 was to be a double sized issue with 50% USA/English speaking charcters Vs the othe 50% being non English speaking characters from around the world. So there you have it Allen.

RB off to bed and hopefully a good nights sleep

Thank you for explaining that to me,richard.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on June 03, 2013, 05:37:57 PM
(Sociedade da Justi
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on June 07, 2013, 10:29:51 PM
Sorry to bother you,richard,but I have some questions to ask you:
1.how is Darrin doing these days?
2.will issue#s 24 and 25 of good guys and gals of the golden age be available on cd-rom any time soon?
3.Which characters were going to appear in the retro and all-villain and villainess issues of good guys and gals of the golden age?
4.which golden age villains and silver age and retro characters were going to be added to your MLJ super special site?
5.any plans for comic books featuring your secret squadron characters?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 08, 2013, 05:18:18 AM
Hello Allen

1) Darrin is doing fine
2) there is no CD rom for issue 24 & 25 because there is no issue 24 & 25.
3) The Good Guys and Gals has not been around for 7 years or so.
4) None.
5) No plans sorry.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on June 08, 2013, 11:32:40 AM

Hello Allen

1) Darrin is doing fine
2) there is no CD rom for issue 24 & 25 because there is no issue 24 & 25.
3) The Good Guys and Gals has not been around for 7 years or so.
4) None.
5) No plans sorry.

Thanks for explaining that to me,richard,tell Darrin I said hello.
Also,i miss the good guys and gals of the golden age website,and I would like to see it revived at some point.
Keep up the great work you do.
Allen
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 10, 2013, 03:27:06 AM
More new Golden Age Fumetti purchases:

AVVENTURE ILLUSTRATE N
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on June 10, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
awesome
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: errelbe on June 12, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
HI:

just arriving to the forum and the site, skimming this thread and it is amazingly good. Promise to read it more carefully and help with info on south american and spanish comics. Prticularly of interset is the very intermingled

In case of photo comics, yeah it was very sucessful form the 50's to the 80's in Italy, France, Spain and Latin America. They were mostly the equivalent of romance comics but then they divertedi n any kind of genre, from detective, to historicalto horror and mystery with sadistic touches.

MOre info soon i promise =)

Adios, amigos!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 13, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
Well this is a drag/bummer

This book - F- MISTERO COMICS N.10 PRIMA SERIE HARA SAHIB -- NERBINI - 1949 - S - GB303
mysteriously became unavailable (0n two different auctions on Ebay) one was "out of stock" and cancelled the sale on me. The other would not ship to the USA and then the next day the auction was gone off of ebay. I found another on some other auction site but suddenly once I tried to buy that book that one became "unavailable" as well. What the hell......

Then,,,, I've been trying to buy this book called Bax. However it does not have a shipping amount and cannot be bought without a shipping amount. Strange (mind you this is EBay Italy), so on 3 diffent attempts to try and contact the seller (the third time using google translate english into italian) to ask if he could put a shipping amount(s) to the USA or something, but no response. Do other countries hate the USA or just don't want to sell their "treasures" to the USA? I cannot fathom this out. Any ideas guys n gals? I am stumped here.

RB @ Work

By the By my total book purchases now has reached 28 Italian fumetti books!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on June 13, 2013, 06:23:27 PM
Maybe you can get Mark of Paw to bid for you
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 14, 2013, 01:32:00 AM
Hmmm perhaps they could buy the Bax book it is very inexpensive. Here is the listing:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/261022704825ssPageName
=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1008wt_956

simply type cut n paste in the search field:

ALBI D'ORO dopoguerra n.288 - Bax contro il grande nemico

and it should come up that way.  IF they do go for it I will pay pal the monies to them ASAP.

Thanks for the idea Narf

Mr Goldenage

Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: MarkWarner on June 14, 2013, 10:08:03 AM
I had a look ... but I can't make out head or tail of what it is saying. I am also dubious that the 1.99 EUR postage is for all of Europe ... seems way too cheap.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on June 14, 2013, 04:59:33 PM
Postage to G.B. is 5.50 Euros.  Although he mentions posting to USA, there is no option on his list to find out the postage.  I'll go ahead and order it and see what happens BUT, as you say, it is Italy.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 14, 2013, 06:22:18 PM
That one's ended and so far not relisted.

I am definitely interested in this one:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/281091989147ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1819wt_952

I'd paypal you the monies in advance if need be. Let me know.

RB @ home scanning Fumetti books!

Attached: Just bought & paid 4 book
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on June 14, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
Richard, I have bought and paid for the BAX comic.  We'll see what happens.  The last one you mentioned, the link doesn't work.  Just says it's unavailable.
Your Clinica del  Dottor Kola illo.  is interesting 'cos I have the French edition but it's too big for the scanner.
An interesting idea as the "hero" is a female who changes into a man's suit and domino mask.  From memory, her/his name is Enigma, but I'd have to check.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 14, 2013, 10:22:34 PM
O boy O boy...Bax.....very cool. Let me know what I owe you and where to paypal the monies to you to. Try the item # of 281091989147 and see if that works. I bought the The Clinica Del Dottor Kolla. It was too interesting to resist. My Paypal bill came today and once the wife gets hold of it I am sure to be in the proverbial soup. So that said let's try and get this done if we can. Once again thank you for the Bax book. I am also awaiting eagerly for the Phantom book, too bad its a two parter.

Richard the greatful
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 19, 2013, 11:18:56 PM
Just so you don't think I have forgotten about this Italian thingie..... I've been busy buying a bunch of Fumetti's plus some French titles along with some Belgium/Dutch titles (Where does Le Chat come from?) for a total of 55 books. So, rather than rush ahead and just end up coming back and re-writing or redoing what I have done I have taken a break to regroup and make sure I have it right. I may have to redo my 1945 list of characters, so that made me think that I may want to wait until most of my books/research determines where all these characters lay in the scheme of things. Characters such as Jim Turbine, Joe Bolide, Furio, and Giorgio Ventura and the like. New Discoveries dictate that timelines be carefully reviewed. Never fear, more will be coming. Not to mention lots of books to scan and post here. Trust me there are some killer books on the way. Stay tuned Fumettie fans!

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on June 20, 2013, 03:35:17 PM
You're going to find a lot of duplication, with titles being syndicated in France, Italy, Spain and other countries.  Le Chat, I think, is Belgian but I'll have to check my card file.  Later, as we're going out in a wee while.  There are a couple of "Le Chat" and one is a masked character but there are a couple of Cat heroes and heroines, in G.B. - but we'll get to them.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 20, 2013, 07:28:06 PM
Help me diecide which final book to buy.

See attachments:
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 20, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
or this one:

Let me know guys...... prices on both are right around the same on each one. Which one seems more of interest? I think the 2nd one, as I have one @the top, a different one, already bought. This would bring my total to 59 books + the one Paw bought on my behalf because someone didn't want to ship to the USA or wouldn't sell to someone in the USA, whatever I say! hats off to Paw...what a guy! :-)

RB @ work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 20, 2013, 07:46:37 PM
3rd options; One of these two.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 20, 2013, 09:44:08 PM
Newvermind. I bought both of the first two plus 8 Le Chat books. So now I am up to 68 books + 1 from Paw.

RB Going broke quickly......
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on June 23, 2013, 04:35:20 AM
9 more books came in on Friday and Saturday. I picked up two @ the post office today and the other seven hit the front door today while my sister in law was baby sitting the house. I must make a list soon. I am bordreing on close to 30 books or so by now I am sure.....

Attachment is of 1 of the Large and I do mean Large books I received today. Too big for my scanner to scan in the conventional way so I will have to scan in 2 and then stitch together, ugh! and so far there are 3 of those books I have in my possession now....sigh......

RB
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 11, 2013, 04:56:21 PM
Just so you don't think I have abandoned this topic I haven't. I have been busy working on the cast of characters from Italy, as the books I have bought rolls in and I find more characters the list changes and morphs into another reality altogether different than when I started this adventure. So that said here is the list I have been working off of. This list does contain characters that do not belong on the list. For example Secret Agent X-9 doesn't belong as does Bob Star (Red Barry American Strip) but I have left them there for now and will clean the list up once I am done. So here is the list:

Alain La Foudre (French Version of Dick Fulmine)
Amok   
Arcana (Mistero Partner)                  X
Asso D' Picchi                                   X   
Bax Controto IL Grande Nemico   
Bob Star (Red Barry? American?)   
Carnera   
Ciclone   
Dick Fulmine   
Flattavion   
Folgore   
Fulmine mascherato   (Dick Fulmine)
Furio                                                     *   
Furio Almirante  ! (same charcter)    *   
Furio Mascherato ! (same character)
Gim Toro   
Gimmy (See Asso Di Picchi)           X   
Giorgio Ventura   
Giustiziere Scarlatto   
Gran Condor (Miss Alice partner)   X   
Guizzo (Tanks L'Uomo D'Acciaio ) X   
Hara Sahib IL Fachiro (Mystery woman partner)   
IL Cavaliere della Notte   
IL Moshettiere Alato   
Il Nemico Invisible   
IL Solitario   
Ipnos   
Jim Turbine   
Joe Bolide   
L Uomo Blindato   
La Parola Magica (Lion Head)
La Pattuglia Dei Senza Paura   
L'Agente Segreto X-9   
L'Asso D' Picchi (Gimmy partner)   
L'Ombra   
L'Uomo Blindato   
L'Uomo Dalla Maschera Rossa    1936
Machera Bianca   
Margus   
Maschara Blu   
Maskar   
Mirko   
Miss Alice (L'Uomo Mascherata)     X   
Misterix   
Mistero (Arcana Partner)   
Nick Silver   
Pantera Bionda   
Plutos   
Raff Pugno D'Acciaio   
Ragar   
Razzo L' Uomo Plastica   
Rex Lo Sparviero Del Mare   
Roal IL Tarzaan Del Mare   
Simbar   
Tanks L'Uomo D'Acciaio (Guizzo companion)                 X   
Yorga   

And I have been doing the blurbs on the Newstand portions of the site here and I am currently working on the year 1943. take a look and and give me some feedback. Thanks. Italy will soon return. How about those Italian books I've posted? Have you all liked them?

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 19, 2013, 02:11:45 AM
(9) Frisco Bill: 4-29-1948 / 11-26-1948

...and now we join in on the conversation.....listen...

....I have a soft spot for early postwar Italian comics. Like Golden Age American comics, their vigor and naive enthusiasm make up for simplistic stories and so-so artwork. Frisco Bill, which launched in 1948, is historically significant because it was one of the first titles published by Edizioni Audace, the company which evolved into Sergio Bonelli Editore, powerhouse of modern Italian comics. At the time Audace was run out of the family home by Tea Bonelli, ex-wife of Gian Luigi Bonelli. a major figure in prewar publishing who gained immortality as the creator of western hero Tex Willer. Tea's all-purpose gofer was her son Sergio, who would work his way up to become one of the most important figures in Italian comic history. Like many comics of the day, Frisco Bill appeared weekly in the striscia ("strip") format. These were saddle-stapled 6.5 x 9.5 inch booklets with color covers and black-and-white interiors. Counting the covers each issue ran 12 pages. Nine pages of story began on the inside front cover. Fan features and a sports article filled the inside back cover and a page of house ads completed the package.

1940s Italian comic readers weren't much interested in costumed heroes or science fiction. The big sellers were period pieces like westerns or pirate stories, and modern "street clothes" adventures in which a valiant two-fisted hero chased bad guys. Frisco Bill fit solidly into the latter category. Bill was an American journalist (Italian comics were full of American heroes) stationed in Rio de Janeiro. Like most comic book reporters he never wrote anything. He was too busy stumbling into mysteries. Though he started his first adventure solo, in issue 5 Bill joined forces with a street urchin named Zazzera and Zazzera's dog Pillacchera. More on them later.

In the first issue Frisco Bill visits a night club with his girlfriend Lupe, daughter of a local millionaire. They watch a performance by an oily dancer named Zapac and his sultry partner Amarilla. Bill is called to the telephone, where (like most heroes called to telephones) he's knocked unconscious. In his absence crooks abduct Lupe. We learn that Zapac and Amarilla are behind the kidnapping. They belong to an ancient cult called the Sect of the Serpent, a cabal of Indians led by a character named Zanco (lots of Z's in this story). Zanco has determined that if Lupe is married off to the Sun God, the sect will make a comeback and conquer Brazil. Zapac, Zanco, and company hustle Lupe out of town. When Bill wakes up he vows vengeance, and off we go. The tale's structure, such as it is, resembles old Saturday morning movie serials. After the first-issue setup the story is an endless cycle of chase, capture, escape, chase, and recapture, punctuated by fist fights and gun battles.

As in movie serials, nothing much changes until the final chapter. After more than 200 pages of frantic action, in issue 25 the saga is wrapped in four breathless pages. By the time the "coming next issue" blurb rolls around Frisco Bill is already deep into a new mystery. Franco Baglioni's rudimentary script seems to have been made up as it went along. One character, Zapac's jealous girlfriend, appears, wanders awkwardly through a couple of scenes, and then quietly vanishes. Amarilla's role changes several times during the story. She starts as a secondary character, but by the last chapter she's practically the boss. It is she who frees our heroes and seals forever the entrance to the sect's hidden city. An impressive percentage of Baglioni's dialogue consists of exclamations of surprise and name-calling. Along with "brick face," Frisco Bill likes to call his opponents "Maccabees." Maybe someone out there can tell me why.

Artist Guido Zamperoni was a competent craftsman who went on to do some good work. Here, though, he delivers precisely what he's asked for and not a dot more. Guido Zamperoni Generic backgrounds and props rob the story of exoticism. It doesn't help that he uses only a handful of character faces. All the Indians look alike, all the white bad guys look alike, and the women are distinguishable only by their hairdos. In fact, when she is introduced the jealous girlfriend's hairdo is identical to Lupe's. Even Zazzera mistakes her for the kidnapped heiress. I suspect that's why the poor girl was eliminated from the story.

The strangest artistic choice is co-star Zazzera. Frisco Bill isn't the first "realistic" hero to have a cartoony sidekick. However Zazzera's design is so wildly out of synch with the rest of the artwork that he seems like a grotesque visitor from another universe. Zazzera's head is almost as big as Bill's entire torso, and when the boy starts socking baddies his bizarre proportions make for some very strange pictures. Pillacchera the Pooch is also broadly drawn, but somehow it's easier to accept in a dog. Zamperoni was a capable artist and I'm not maligning his drawing ability. Rather I'm suggesting that somewhere along the line someone made some unfortunate artistic decisions.

Frisco Bill and company ran out of breath in November of 1948 a mere 8 months after his first appearance but that was a typical life span of a fumetti character that came out on a weekly basis. I've uploaded a story I found on the 'net and only waiting approval so if it fly's you can get a feel for the series.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 22, 2013, 03:04:18 AM
True Or False?

Are these characters as far as anyone knows just Euro versions of American characters as follows:

Bob Star = Red Barry
Giorgio Ventura = Brick Bradford
Nick Silver = ?
Folgore = ?

Not Sure but these two Sci-Fi

Raff & Margus

Anyone have a clue?

Let me know'

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on July 22, 2013, 11:50:33 AM
No idea it is hard enough to recognize superhero knockoff let alone others. You might want to post this in an unlocked non-admin area
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 25, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
Fascism, as soon as you replaced the liberal state, is immediately concerned for the education of "children of Italy" and their indoctrination to believe Mussolini. Was the constant concern of fascism to impose itself to the young. The same Minister of Education, Peter Fedele, in a speech to the House, March 25, 1927, proclaimed:  "the government, as the leader had to say, demands that the whole school, in all its degrees and its teachings educate the youth to understand Italian fascism, to ennoble and to live in fascism in the historical climate created by the fascist revolution."

Under the aegis of the fascist party, were created in 1923 as The Journal of the Balilla , renamed in 1926 The Balilla , and in 1927 La Piccola Italian , two weekly newspapers, however, that the vast majority of the boys ignored. The characters of the strips never attained the popularity because of their frailty, often coupled with a bleak clumsiness. Increasingly effort The Balilla took on the task to delineate the figure of the new Italian child and to raise it to the memory of the heroic past.  A climate heroic, irrational, excited, and perhaps for the times, exhilarating, pervades the pages of the Balilla . However, already tends to establish ties with the past of the nation, especially the "heroic", to seek short of the aspects of historical continuity and to educate the new generations to a moral fideistic blindly, to the worship of the great values ??of the metaphysical tradition, as large as incomprehensible but suitable to accustom to full dedication and sacrifice. Only The Balilla , in the years of World War II, he was able to draw attention to himself with the boards of Enrico De Seta opened up by the spiel:  "For fear of war - King of England Giorgetto - ask for help and protection - Ciurcillone to the minister. "

Ironically, that the hearts of young readers go to Ciurcillone always ill-treated. After Mussolini had consolidated his power began a slow and steady creeping fascism of all the newspapers and magazines, including one dedicated to the youth. And so every week for boys became increasingly patriotic, engaging in increasing exaltation of "pure heroes Italic" and in great contempt for the "red Bolsheviks" who were plotting against Western civilization. It had thus a large series of stories in comic dedicated to the colonial enterprise in Africa and the Spanish Civil War. And there were re-enactments of the Roman wars, the adventures medieval and Renaissance, the Risorgimento battles that mirrored the ambitions of fascism to be considered a worthy successor of the glories of the past. reenactments These, therefore, were mainly nationalist propaganda purposes and were used as psychological weapon to spread among young people and the spiritual supremacy ideology of fascism, and its impossible and alleged legacy of age-old sizes.

Over the period 1938-1940, following the example of the films of the regime, who spread the mythical images of the Italian colonizers was intensified production Comics African adventures. At that time, interference and abuse of fascist censorship became more heavy and ridiculous. In 1940 he went so far as to make fire from mild Sor Pampurio the maid Maria Bice, colpevolee to use the unmanly "she" instead of the formal "you". A year later, in 1941, were the stories that had prohibited "scenes of banditry, espionage, ambushes, attacks and environments shady and violent actions." With the approach of war, fascism visceral aversion to any form of expression is not guided by the themes of home, and the heroism of the Roman world is exasperated and also hit the comic book publishing. While the propaganda of the regime imposed its high-sounding slogans, trying to penetrate into the public consciousness, the ministry official banned the import and use of foreign comics. Some publishers, with all cunning Italian, got around the obstacle, proposing some American characters more or less disguised and "Italianised." 

And so, once again, the zealous censors of fascism, attacked by xenophobic rampage, showed all their blindness and stupidity. Take a few illustrative examples. In 1939, on ' Audace , the Tarzan by Burne Hogarth was renamed with the Teutonic name of Siegfried, while the text was attributed to an anonymous Amedeo Martini and the drawings were signed with the pseudonym apocryphal Ulterius. Of Mickey Mouse , the blond Brick Bradford (since its first appearance in Italianate Bruno Archers) were dyed black hair to give it a typically Latin. In accordance with an absurd nationalism several foreign heroes with ridiculous names were renamed Italian. So Audax became Marshal Rossi, Jungle Jim was called Geo, Mandrake and was forced to give up the Anglo-Saxon K and transformed into Mandrache, there is one that remembers that period of censorship, Gherardo Casini, director general of the Italian Press at the top ministry official, 1934-1940: "Was ... the moment emerged the need to eliminate from the newspapers for children everything that could be contrary to certain principles, especially the stories and figures too yellow hues, as well as, in general, everything that was opposed to a exaltation of the values  typical Italian: military, intellectual and artistic."

Paradoxically, the first hero in fascist uniform had British nationality, Victor's Adventure, created by William Booth. With an incredible operation of textual revision and with the simple change of some sections, the saga was printed in Italy with the title of the avant-garde Lucio. Firms in this intrepid protagonist, redundant nationalism, conveniently adapted, were published in the weekly Jumbo from December 1932. comes out in theaters in 1938 Luciano Serra, Pilot, the film in which Amedeo Nazzari gives substance to the idea of a hero adventurous pure race "Roman", and released the first issue on newsstands Dick Lightning, the only comic book character that otter
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 29, 2013, 10:17:16 PM
Warning: topic is currently/will be locked!
Only admins and moderators can reply.

Why is this?

Anyways.....last of the articles on politics and what the effects they had on fummeti and the pubishers during and prior to WW II and post war Italy. Now onto the Bio's of the characters...and there are a lot more than I thought there would be,,,,

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on July 29, 2013, 10:52:28 PM
Nice looking superheroines in La Dama and Miss Diavolo
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 30, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
If I can scrap up the monies I am trying to buy a book of each one of these babes. By-the-by for you and Paw...go up a rant or two and check out the zip file called Italy Golden Age and take a peek. It's in Open Org but it works with Excel Vista and Windows 7 Excel. Let me know what you think. sheet 3 is still a work in progress. O never mind I'll just attach it here.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on July 30, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
Wow lots of work there. It would be nice to have the issues they appear in and then if they are on CB+
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 30, 2013, 10:08:22 PM
Ah...I wish..........I tried to put as big a dent into that list as much as I could $1741.00 and some change later....you've seen some of the results here so far. The Italian section has grown. I have 33 Plutos adventures to post. I have 14 Simbar adventures to post. I have 24 Scarlet Executioner stories to post and 5 Piccola Mascherato stories to post. Plust the Mistero and the Ragar's that are already posted. I think that is it for runs. the rest will be single issues and there are a lot. Now mind you I bought 12 Heroic French books with Le Chat in them for next year and a few more books that have French characters for next year as well that came out of that money too. But alas I am mostly spent for the rest of this year I fear. But you never know. I am working on hyper-linking at least a pic to each of the entries when I am done so when you double click on the name a pic will come up if I do this right but I am not there yet and I am not that Excel friendly. Later dudes....

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on July 31, 2013, 12:53:14 AM
Yeah I know what you mean. I have not kept track but $100 hear and there and here and there and here and there you get the point it adds up.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 31, 2013, 03:56:11 AM
O I do I do.....IL Dama Di Picche N.-01 through N.-24 bought today by my wife. Got to love a woman like that!.....Now to work on Mis Diavolo....hehehehee

RB @ Home

Attached the winning photo
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on July 31, 2013, 11:35:58 AM
Wow you are a lucky man
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on July 31, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
This is getting even more exciting.  I've only heard of La Donna di Picche and it's  a strange format, I think.  Tall and narrow?
Nice cover on Il Falco Verde and never heard of thet one.  Can't wait for Le Chat, only ever seen a few panels.  If it'sthe same one.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on July 31, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Well here is one of the covers of one of the books that I bought,
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on August 01, 2013, 01:12:07 AM
cool
Title: Machera Rossa & Rosso Cappa
Post by: mr_goldenage on August 02, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
1936

Machera Rossa & Rosso Cappa

Maschra Rossa & Rosso Cappa operated in the year 1936, January, until the end in December. What happened to them after that is a mystery. Maschera Rossa was a man hunted by the authorites as well as the underground mafia of whom he had made enemies of. Maschera Rossa was assisted by his ally Rosso Cappa the strong man. While Maschera Rossa was the brains, Rossa Cappa was definitely the brawn, and the pair were involved in many a bizzare case. Here are their cases from 1936:

January 1936
# 01 - The Man of many Faces = L'Uomo Dai Mille Volti
# 02 - The Jewels Of Lady Benthau = I Gioielli Di Lady Benthau
February 1936
# 03 - The Misadventures of Pringle = Le Disavventure di Pringle
# 04 - The Bank of Galveston Crime = Delitto della banca di Galveston
March 1936
# 05 - The Policeman # 13 = IL Policeman N.13
# 06 - Theft of a new kind = Un Furto di Nuovo Genere
April 1936
# 07 - The Secret OF Cagliostro = IL Segreto di Cagliostro
# 08 - The Invisible Enemy = IL Nemico Invisible
May 1936
# 09 - Inside the Plane = Il Corriere Aero
# 10 - The Red Triangle = IL TRriangolo Rosso
June 1936
# 11 - The Cave of Torture = La Caverna Delle Torture
# 12 - The Enigma of the Skyscraper = L'Enigma Del Grattacielo
# 13 - The Secret of Forced Labour = Il Segreto Dei Forzati
July 1936
# 14 - The Ghost Train = IL Treno Fantasma
# 15 - The Well of Crocodilles = Il Pozzo Dei Coccodrilli
# 16 - A Sensational Wedding = Un Matrimonio Sensazionale
August 1936
# 17 - The Island of Death = L'Isola della morte
# 18 - The Damned Tower = La Torre Maledetta
September 1936
# 19 - The Secret Passage = Il Passaggio segreto
# 20 - The Shooting of the Red Mask = La Fucilazione Della Maschera Rossa
October 1936
# 21 - I Misteri Del Castello Di Glesnor = The Mysteries Of The Castle Of Glesnor
# 22 - The Anderson Affair = L'Affare Anderson
November 1936
# 23 - Unknown (missing issue)
# 24 - House of Dracula = La Casa Degli Orrori
December 1936
# 25 - The Murders in Chinatown =  I Delitti della Citt
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on August 02, 2013, 09:47:13 PM
cool
Title: Bob Star 1936
Post by: mr_goldenage on August 02, 2013, 10:02:14 PM
1936

Bob Star The Adveture Detective

# 1 The Green Idol = L'idolo Verde - 6-23-1946
# 2 The Bank Robbery = L'Assalto Alla Banca - 7-7-1946
# 3 The Secret of Dr. Flak = Il Segreto Del Dr. Flak - 7-14-1946
# 4 The Case of Milton-Dela = Il Caso Milton-Dela - 8-11-1946
# 5 The Black Gang = La Banda di Black - 8-18-1946
# 6 The Red Book = La Rubrica Rossa - 8-25-1946
# 7 The Chamber of Death = La Camera della Morte - 9-1-1946

A Synopsis:

Bob Star attempts to recover two million dollars in stolen bonds intended for allied warplanes, while international spies and ruthless gangster underworld struggle to acquire the bonds. Bob Star was an undercover policeman. With a single man on the force, his old friend Inspector Scott was absolutely sure what side he really was on, Bob began to perform the most dangerous assignments possible - the infiltration in the ranks of the gangsters, while seldom able to count on the support of the police expected. Bob worked alone at first, but then took a man called Ouchy Mugouchy. In the end, Ouchy and some friends, collectively known as The Three fabulous stars.

Case Comments:

1)
This fumetti had a new level of violence in the comic run but with or without serious violence, the stories were fast and exciting, and readers loved the fumetti - at least the lucky ones the area that they lived. Though it was a rising star in the comic medium, Nerbini characterized Bob in two books. And on October 18, 1938 has Universal Pictures (Tailspin Tommy, Tim Tyler's Luck), released in the USA, the first of the 13 episodes of the movie series Red Barry, and it produced no less than one star Buster Crabbe (Buck Rogers, Tarzan) as an actor. At first glance it may seem acceptable, that the movie was skirting the edge of Gould, which may have led to the demise of the strip. But most likely, as his assistant (who would go on to do the Believe it or not Ripley strip) Frehm Walter said in retrospect, it was his cavalier attitude toward work habits and deadlines and it was contractual difficulties between Gould and King Features that arose, and also it took the union as a keyword to remove the strips. Red Barry was last seen in 1939 due to poor book circulation.

Red Barry has become difficult to assemble solid leads for comic book collectors, and therefore difficult to reprint, despite its high quality and audience response. Fantagraphics Books (also reissued Prince Valiant, Popeye, and many others), Red Barry sequences have been printed twice during the year 1980 - then the first in a series in 1985 Nemo, the Classic Comics Library, and the second in a book in 1989. Those two editions constitute the only glimpse modern readers have had of one of comics' obscure classics.

2)
Bob Star was the Italian version of Red Barry, the American comic book by Will Gould (1911-1984) was American cartoonist known for his comic Red Barry. Distributed by King Features Syndicate, Gould strip was about a two fisted undercover cop Red Barry, which began on Monday 19th of March, Introduced in 1934 as one of several strips (and no relation) to compete with Dick Tracy by Chester Gould. Historical Comics Rick Marshall called Gould a man who has "one of the most individualistic strips of all time." In 1929, Gould began as sports cartoonist for the Bronx News, where he drew the cartoon "Felix O'Fan". For the New York Graphic he drew "Asparagus Tips". He moved to California in 1930, freelancing for several papers before creating Red Barry, who he wrote and drew from, 1934-1938. Red Barry, Gould called his line style clean and fresh. His assistant was Walter Frehm on the strip. Contractual disputes between Gould and King Features brought Red Barry to finish in 1939.

3)
Size and Dimensions - have been altered by me to give maximum viewing for you all. These are the original covers you will see under the Tour of Italy: Bob Star. These covers have not been altered by myself and they are as I found them.

Next: 1937/1938
Title: L 'Uomo Mascherato 1937
Post by: mr_goldenage on August 09, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
L 'Uomo Mascherato 1937.

A Phantom swept over Italy in 1937. The summer saw L'Uomo Mascherato (The Masked Man) smash into crime. That Fantasma is....

L 'Uomo Mascherato (The Masked Man) is, of course, naturally endowed with psycho-physical properties at the limit of superhuman. in addition to excel in all physical characteristics such as resistance to the speed and accuracy in evidence in all psychological characteristics, such as intelligence, logic and intuition, and all moral qualities such as honesty, loyalty and courage, stoic, and can also have extreme concentration and self-control, and is capable of withstanding shock, pain, injuries and wounds which would be fatal to other mortals,and he resists all this unblinking. In that sense, the Masked Man does not belong to the category of superheroes, with no special supernatural forces, but expresses his heroism by Charisma due to his ability to deal with the difficulties and thus defeat the enemies and adversaries.

The Shadow Walker is equipped with two Colt 45, which of course uses the same time and without missing a shot. He also has two rings with two functions, which mark the good and bad characters, that indelible stamp as a warning to the other characters in the stories. One that leads to the middle finger of the left hand, is a design resembling a crimson cross offers slight pressure on the arm or hand of the positive signs that visitors to the area, a kind of laissez-brand with your approval and that the person who is under his protection. The other is the stylized figure of a skull, which bears on the middle finger of the hand of the favorite punch, the right, which gives it a shame scar on the face of the enemy that strikes typically with a direct or an uppercut to the jaw or cheekbone.

The Masked Man has a real pair of helpers: a wolf named Devil (Diablo), a horse called Hero (Hero). L 'Uomo Mascherato has a special charisma to tame animals and control almost all species, whether wild derivatogli possible by the fact that he was born and lived in contact with nature in the jungle equipped Tree house up to 12 years. In his stories, in fact, received aid from a variety of animals such as elephants, lions, dolphins, monkeys and others, and has successfully managed shows how dangerous tigers, Sharks, snakes,
crocodiles and others can be.

L 'Uomo Mascherato has a small island, Eden, where he taught the most disparate and incompatible animal species to live in peace with each other and with humans. In jungle history, as The Ghost, The Walking Dead, or even The Shadow, but also as the Man Who Cannot Die, in the simplicity and ingenuity of the indigenous inhabitants of the forest, He is apparently in circulation for generations. In fact, this is due to a dynasty of Masked Men who inherit the same role in turn. When inheritance of old age or killing, action is required and is replaced by a new "L' Uomo Mascherato" (usually a son or a cognate), and they must pronounce the formula coined by Prime Masked Man Original, or the "Oath of the Skull": "I dedicate my life to the destruction of all forms of piracy, greed and cruelty. My children and their children will follow in my footsteps". Frequently the strips have had adventures set in the past, focusing on the ancestors of the Masked Men by a Roman numeral in indication of the genealogy. As a result the strips have found themselves along the timeline of historical periods between about 1500 and the near future, with the example, in some European publications, He (or She) appeared as children of the future dressed as executioners.

L 'Uomo Mascherato is a bitter enemy to the pirate history in general and especially in the dark circle of Singh, notorious pirates, and apparently Asians. For pirates, in fact, comes directly from its origin and the reasons for it seems that in the navigator of the sixteenth century ship, which will then be the first Masked Man was hit, robbed and abused by the pirates on board, and thrown off the coast of Bangalia, He then vowed the perpetrators of this struggle and crime and his personal war to future generations. "Sometimes the Shadow Walker leaves his jungle and drives like an ordinary person." If it works,  He is wearing a fedora, sunglasses and a trench coat, it seems that is Mr. Walker standard attire. Traditionally the Walker name is explained by a footnote on the page The Ghost Who (which means ghost walks accompanied - often translated as the Shadow of walking, English riding means feet), although some versions of the story of the man in disguise, that Walker would propose be wearing the hero the name of the first man.

The First Original L' Uomo Mascherato arrives in 1536 or so, as the sole survivor of a pirate boarding by Singh, on the shores of Bengalia. This is the twenty-year old Christopher Walker, who made a home in the jungle, and knows the Bandar pygmies and He makes his dwelling in a cave shaped like a skull, which then becomes the abode of all his progeny of Masked Men. All Shadow Walker's were equipped with firearms and a uniform that represents a demon and that masks the face that is indigenous to fight crime anonymously, and keep these all in a large dressing room with equipment of all previous L' Uomo Mascherato's.

In the bowels of the cave of the skull, after each adventure, a report is written on large tomes like a memorial, or record, to be left to posterity, so books like that are kept in a large hall shelved inside the cave. They train a successor to replace them when the L' Uomo Mascherato's by length, reaches 50 years of age or because in service being injured or killed. So the heir from time to time thus takes up service to the age of 25 following in the footsteps of the antecedent Masked Man, burying him when the time comes in a hall in the underground cavern of the skull, which houses all the tombs of the dynasty. And so the legend of the Shadow Walker continues and has been handed down over the centuries, L' Uomo Mascherato can continue to pursue justice with continuity through the ages to the present day (originally it was the twentieth centuries, but now the twenty-first century), and beyond. One can postulate that there have been 20 Masked Men in the role of the L' Uomo Mascherato over the course of 500 years.

The armed wing paramilitary of the Masked Man is the Jungle Patrol (Jungle Patrol). The patrol was founded by L 'Uomo Mascherato XVI with the help of a former pirate Barbarossa and the Spirit said that he is the commander; what happened was, that one was killed by treachery, within the L 'Uomo Mascherato XIV Patrol, and this was devised as a resulting command to make it anonymous and unknown. Orders are now received by the Patrol COmmander, and since then mysteriously in a vault of his home, that is secretly reached from The Masked Man, to withdraw it or leave it dispatches information and orders, through a secret passage accessible via and well not far from the city.

Over the course of more than seventy years of stories, the legend of the Masked Man has grown and been enriched by becoming one of the raison d'etre of the series of Masked Men and contain mysterious and bizarre coincidences of fate that suggest the existence of inevitability. The myth of the L 'Uomo Mascherato highlights the immortal character compared to many costumed heroes who personified the fight against crime at different times, and helped to keep the appeal to date. A lot of focus on basic elements, plots and themes of the series on the persistence of the legend of the Masked Man, and many stories contain mysterious and strange coincidences of fate, which suggest the existence of an element of inevitability in the legend of the mind that more than a normal person could do in costume, but a redestined fate of sorts.

The Phantom (aka The Masked Man [L 'Uomo Mascherato]) began as a daily strip February 17, 1936. It was written by Lee Falk and initially even pencils and / or sketches were his. The first artist was Ray Moore was masked. At the time, Lee Falk was already the creator of the successful daily strip Mandrake the Magician. Ray Moore was previously assistant to the designer of Mandrake Phil Davis. A version of the Sunday strip masked Man was added May 28, 1939. During the war, Falk became a member of the Office of War Information (Information Office of war). It is rumored that during this period the Masked Man strip was at least partially written by Alfred Bester, but this is still pretty discussed by those who say that Bester wrote instead Mandrake. Ray Moore also participated actively in the war and during that time he left the strip to his assistant Wilson McCoy. Moore returned after the war and worked occasionally at the strip until 1949, when he left completely in the hands of McCoy. Under the management of McCoy the strip was at its height, appearing in thousands of newspapers around the world. McCoy suddenly disappeared in 1961.

Carmine Infantino and Bill Lignante (who would later draw the Masked Man stories directly for comic magazines) replaced him before finding a successor in Sy Barry. During the early years of Barry, he and Falk modernized the strip, and laid the foundations for what is considered the modern look of Man in disguise. Barry would continue working on the strip for over 30 years before retiring in 1994. George Olesen, for a long time assistant Barry, remained on the strip as the author of pencils. The new inker for the daily strip was Keith Williams. The Sunday strip for some time was inked by Eric Doescher until Fred Fredericks, the designer of Mandrake the Magician, became the regular inker in 1995.Lee Falk went on to co-write the Phantom (and Mandrake) until his death, March 13, 1999. After that, King Features Syndicate began to cooperate with European comic publisher Egmont, publisher of the Swedish magazine Fantomen that contains the original stories in comics since 1963. Fantomen writers Tony De Paul and Claes Reimerthi alternated as writers of the daily strip after the death of Falk. Today De Paul is the regular writer. Some of the stories have been adapted from stories originally published in comic magazines Fantomen. In 2000, Olesen and Fredericks retired from the Sunday strip which was taken over by Graham Nolan. A few years later, Olesen and Williams left the daily strip. A new designer was found in Paul Ryan, who was then already a veteran of Man masked after working on the comic stories Fantomen for a couple of years. The first daily strip Ryan appeared in early 2005.

The Phantom (L 'Uomo Mascherato aka The Masked Man) is a fictional character created adventures of the American writer Lee Falk. The series, which chronicles their adventure began in black and white strips in the American New York Journal 17 February 1936, followed by a colored band on Sunday in May, 1939. The masked man is well known that the first "superhero in tights," the first comic book avenger wear traditional dress to be what is the domain of superheroes, of which it is to be a prototype.

L 'Uomo Mascherato had three adventures in 1937 and these were those adventures:

1 - L'Uomo Mascherato     Maggio 1937 
2 - Nel Regno dei Singh    Agosto 1937
3 - La Banda Aerea          Novembre 1937

Next IL Nemico Invisible 1937 & Beyond
Title: International Golden Age Facebook Page
Post by: mr_goldenage on August 29, 2013, 06:22:35 PM
Check this out a International Golden Age Facebook Page:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/633534696677314/#!/groups/633534696677314/

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on August 29, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
Not being a member of Facebook, I can see bugger all.  I'd love to add to the views but I'm really suspicious of signing up. 
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on August 29, 2013, 08:14:28 PM
Re. L'Uomo Mascherato, there was a 5 issue series recently in Italy. I think I have 4 of them, I think.  Nice looking comics.  Your article mentions Egmont and, although I have samples of the Scandinavian mags, I don't read Scandinavian languages and that's why I'm so keen on the Frew issues as they re-print them in English.  Very good most of them are too.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on August 30, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
Yes I have seen them on Ebay up for sale and they are not very expensive. But I am saving my dollars for my next run at ebay in October. I am working some overtime in August (done) and September (just around the corner) and once I gather that cash up and split it up with the Missus (she's got to get her bit you know) I'll have about 300 US to go back and finish up on Italy books. So that's my current plan unless things change and they offer me more overtime at work.

On an aside note. Seems that Terry's Facebook experiment didn't work out too well. Seems I was a bit too aggressive for Terry trying to build membership quickly and 1 mind you one twit complained and Terry threw a fit and is now closing both his facebook pages. Go figure. So what, who cares. Sigh. The man is impossible I tell you. LoL. Anyways, I tried. Some things (as well as people) once broke just can't be fixed.

Take care.

Richard
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Post by: mr_goldenage on September 17, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
So what's new? Well I bought 1936 L'UOMO DALLA MASCHERA ROSSA L'uomo dai mille volti *Rivista BELLINI N
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Post by: narfstar on September 18, 2013, 12:56:59 AM
You rock Richard
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Post by: paw broon on September 18, 2013, 04:07:30 PM
Ahhhhh! Turkish comics.  Those ones you found a while ago were extremely interesting - even though I couldn't read a word of them.  I think that's the Turkish Superman in the illo. on the reply to my uploads.  Turkish DVDs turned up at one of the recent Glasgow collector fairs, mostly Onar releases and I already had them but the Turkish Tarzan was gone before I got to the stall and the guy didn't have the Turkish Phantom. There was also a dealer with imported Euro DVDs, mostly violent adult stuff and he claimed to have the MisterX film on DVD, but not with him.  But he was really expensive.  Pity as I really fancy seeing that one but it's much rarer and much more difficult to find than Kriminal or Diabolik.  Pity.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on September 18, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
Here are the buys so far Narf.


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Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 18, 2013, 07:13:29 PM
Paw you know any turk movies or any super hero movies you are looking for if I have them I'd get U a "way" for you to see them you know? Just let me know what you need.

RB @ work
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Post by: mr_goldenage on September 18, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
I also picked up 4 of the last 6 Fantx issues I needed so that was nice too. Unfortunately unless I am awarded more overtime I am most likely done with Italy for this year. But still it has been a good year.  A sorry to Narfstar that I stalled out in the middle of scanning La Dame Di Picche but as soon as I have a day off from work I will finish it and upload it here. The other time consumer of my life lately has been facebook with my International Golden Age Media group and my personal Facebook group, but more on those late if anyone is interested in what those are generating.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 18, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
Man you get such awesome stuff. So glad you share it with us here. I have not bought anything in awhile. Getting some work done on the house. It is paid for but there is still up keep.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 18, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
I count 43 "original" Fantax books/comics what say you all?

RB @ work
Title: Turk Comix
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 19, 2013, 01:06:52 AM
Examples
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 19, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
Awesome Fantax cover. I have not had much luck trying to learn Spanish   :( and I really want to read so many of those books. All the other language books just make things more frustrating. Dangling a carrot just out of reach Richard. Bad boy.
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Post by: paw broon on September 19, 2013, 07:09:31 PM
I'm not sure about the number of Fantax original comics.  There was a discussion about this involving JVJ, myself and someone else ages ago, and even after that, I still could not reconcile the figures.   Any chance of letting us have your "workings", Richard?  Apart from the Italian facsimile reprints and 2 original French issues, I also have 3 French small landscape examples from after the original series.  I'll have to have a dig to count the number of issues I have.
Narfstar, just to make things more annoying for you, Linda came back from Italy with the new Diabolik monthly; the current Diabolik reprint; the Diabolik Grande issue and the current Dylan Dog with art by one of my favourites, Giancarlo Alessandrini.  The art job on this one has caused a bit of controversy with punters writing that they don't like it and that the art isn't suitable for DD.  But I find it all very atmospheric and well done.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World - Fantax
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 19, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Ok here goes. I have the Italian reprints1 through 27 minus # 5. MInd you I just bought 8 - 11 -13 & 22 yesterday (Also Italian editions) so they are on their way. Now I have seen the covers up to # 39 mostly (there are holes in this run of covers which I will post here) but I have read the series goes to 41, but others say original stories go to # 43. Then there are the 100 pagers that ran several issues and I believe are pocket size (I have covers of those if you are interested but they are mainly reprints from what I understand). The series ran until 1961 when Chot went bankrupt. There was also a Fantax Magazine that featured other characters like Big Bill and Robin Hood and the likes, but that is a whol nother apple as they say. So here is the first of 10 covers.
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Post by: mr_goldenage on September 19, 2013, 10:04:59 PM
another one # 29
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# 30
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# 31
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# 34
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# 35
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# 36
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# 37
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# 38
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# 39
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Post by: mr_goldenage on September 20, 2013, 02:56:41 PM
The last ebay buy run unless I get more overtime @ work. Here they are:

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How about them apples? LoL

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on September 20, 2013, 03:24:49 PM
Those later issues are form the French series, which was the original.  Ialways thought, wrongly perhaps, that the Italian series stopped a bit short of the French one.  The Italian facsimilies that I have cetainly do not go as far as your later covers. Still looking for the pocket size issues. 
I forget how to post acover picture on the site, so if anyone ca remind me, we might get on a lot quicker.
As for Big Bill Le Casseur, as you say, that's  a whol nother thingy. But he is one of those masked cowboys.  Comes a time we are going to have to have a look at them.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 20, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
The pocket size ran 8 issues that I know of and were 100 pages each. Since I don't own one I don't know for certain if they are reprints or not. I know they started in 1959 and ran until 1961. Here are the covers.

attachment # 1 issue # 1
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 20, 2013, 06:38:17 PM
# 2 & # 3
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# 4 & # 5
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# 6
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# 8



What do you think Paw?
Title: Who is this Guy?
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 20, 2013, 11:31:30 PM
Any idea?
Title: Big Bill & Robin Hood in Fantax
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 21, 2013, 05:52:15 PM
Paw, Did you want me to round up the Big Bill & Robin Hood Fantax issues that sport those two characters on the covers, or just the rest of the non Fantax issues that star other charcters on the covers in the original run that ends in 1961. Let me know.

RB @ work on a Saturday!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on September 21, 2013, 05:57:58 PM
The questions are mounting up, Richard, and I'm struggling to keep up.  Haven't a scooby who that is but it is an old striscia and at first I thought the comic might be an Italian version of Fulgor but having checked my small collection and the covers reproduced here:-
http://veiling.catawiki.nl/kavels/14661-fulgor-1953-1954
it definitely isn't.   So we have another unknown masked man.
Now Fantax.  Had I gone back to my previous research I wouldn't have asked such a daft question.  But, on looking closer at the info here:-
http://www.coolfrenchcomics.com/fantax.htm
I notice that the Italian reprint numbering is different to the original French issues. And the titles don't match the French ones in the later issues.  I have #1 to #26 of the Italian facsimiles, (which I used to think was a complete run!) #9 and #13 of the French originals and #s 2,7,8 of the small landscape 100 pagers.  By the way, the 100 pagers are not all Fantax content, there are a number of back-up stories and all are machine lettered.
Oddly this offer on ebay suggests the facsimiles only ran to 24:-
http://www.ebay.it/itm/FANTAX-COMPLETA-1-24-ED-DI-LEO-ANASTATICA-/110625139731?pt=Ristampe_Anastatiche&hash=item19c1c5ac13
And, you might want a look at this insertion:-
http://www.ebay.it/itm/FANTAX-ED-SPECIALE-10X15-ANASTATICA-SERIE-COMPLETA1-6-RARA-/150916756328?pt=Ristampe_Anastatiche&hash=item232356f368
I've been very wary of scanning Dutch and other lilliputs as there is a small company in Germany who is re-issuing many as facsimile editions. I bought a few last time we were in Cologne.  Remember that these comics were circulated in a number of European countries, having been translated into the appropriate languages.
Excuse the ramblings.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 21, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
Well we will find out soon enough who he is. I bought the comic just to see who he is. I also discovered another "new" one called Zamorro see attachment.

AS far as Fantax goes, it's obviously a minefield. I just need # 5 of the Italian reprint and my set is complete, although mine runs through # 27 and I understand that there is a # 28 Italian one as well. I hope to complete the remainder of the Fantax whether it be the 28 through 43(?) or 41 in the French editions as there are no Italian editions beyond 28 that I know of.

I'm out of cash for the rest of this year unless I work more overtime. So that's it for Ebay for 2013, but what a splendid year it was. I envy you and those who can travel Europe and hunt the books in person that would be so much fun. Maybe someday......

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 21, 2013, 10:27:17 PM
If you added up all the postage you spent you may have been able to buy a plane ticket
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 22, 2013, 02:45:50 AM
or more books!
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Post by: narfstar on September 22, 2013, 01:43:27 PM
My point was that for the same money you could have gotten the same books and a trip to the UK  ;)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: jimmm kelly on September 22, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
For some unknown reason the caption settings and image size settings aren't working right, even though they look perfectly fine on the edit page. Hopefully Wordpress will fix it soon. Most of my pages can still be read, but the dimensions are off.

I'd hate to have to take down all my blogs and start all over again.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 22, 2013, 05:24:13 PM
You mean a trip to Italy and the books too? Unfortunately if it was possible I would have loved to have done that. Yes I am aware that I spent near $500 US in shipping out of the $2300 that I spent on Italian and French books this year alone. But, and here is the BIG but, I don't have the work time off to go. I only get 80 hours a year. Dumped on at one time on November 18th. And so I have to budget my vaction time off for the whole year in conjunction with my wife's vacation hours (and she has 300 plus vacation hours) so it isn't as simple as it sounds and keep in mind that my wife may not want to go to Italy (yes who wouldn't want to go I know.....) but I digress....So yes as it may seem that is the more sensible thing to do it wasn't the more feasible thing to do. So I did what I could do. Trust me, no one was more aware of shipping cost that I was, I tried to buy in batches from the same sellers to save on shipping when I could. The other options was to just download/capture covers and buy no books whatsoever. Which option should I have gone with? I know which one my wife wishes I'd gone with.....

Richard

O and let us not forget all the cool characters that wouldn't got discovered if I hadn't bought these books, like my new avatar and the one Paw and I were trying to figure out. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 23, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
All of your hard work has paid off for you and us. We really appreciate your sharing. You have to look forward to retiring even more than me. I can retire in TN after next year  ;D Since my house is paid off it would be enough to live on but not enough to LIVE ON. I plan on collecting my retirement and working just a few miles across the Georgia border and banking a chunk. My wife wants me to go teach in Charleston, SC which would not produce much extra because we would have to establish living there while maintaining here to come back to. We shall see. Either way next year should be my last year teaching in TN. All this COMMON CORE crap makes me want out of teaching as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 23, 2013, 12:42:07 PM
Check out this new turkish comics link:

http://teksastommiks2.tr.gg/

RB Leaving for work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 23, 2013, 02:45:35 PM
Great site thanks Richard full comics to read
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Post by: paw broon on September 23, 2013, 03:45:42 PM
Great find, Richard.  Just exploring it now.  Most of the comics are Italian translations and I saw Blek, Kapitan Miki, Zagor (and some of the covers seem to be re-drawn), Piccolo Sceriffo, Tex, and others. I hope you all enjoy looking at the great Robot Archie story - aliens and all!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 23, 2013, 05:20:29 PM
Not much of a "find" more of a "gift" from my new Turkish friends on Facebook. I have been fortunate to have been graciously invited into their world and I hope this trend continues where they reveal their world to us in the comic sense sort to speak. I went there looking for Turkish movies, and I am sure you of all people can appreciate my quest for those movies. Of course one thing led to another and I professed my love of comics from everywhere and countered the argument I always get, "but you cannot read them?" perhaps not but I certainly can enjoy the beautiful pictures and/or art is always my reply and that typically wins hearts and minds. I have another page or two to share soon. Enjoy this one from now. I have had several of the Turks join my International Golden Age media Facebook group and that is encouraging so let us see where that takes us eh?

Richard @ Work once again!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 24, 2013, 01:33:42 AM
The Robot Archie/Ali stories were some of the main ones to catch my eyes.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 24, 2013, 05:51:00 PM
Glad you guys liked the site. I have another one I will post tonight when I get home that you might find of interest as well. Later..........

RB @ Work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 24, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
O yeah, I've gathered up a few of the Big Bill, Marco Polo and Robin Hood covers that I could find if you are interested in seeing them Paw let me know.

RB @ Work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 25, 2013, 04:56:59 PM
.....Just when you think you have mostly found them all......another one pops up......... .....Introducing Dario Bolide
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 26, 2013, 12:52:19 AM
There will always be another
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 26, 2013, 06:08:30 AM
And that is the beauty of this isn't it now......
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on September 26, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
As Jim says, there seems to always be another. And that is the great thing about all this great work youare putting in. As for the other covers, bring them on.  I was having alook at my notes and I think the Robin Hood etc. titles might have been French. Marco Polo also intrested me as there was a reasonably long series of German comics of the same name.  As I have not seen interior art for the French/Italian comics, Idon't know if theyare the same.  So much still to be looked into.  Great, isn't it?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 27, 2013, 01:12:34 PM
Another turk link to comics, then click on albums......;

https://www.facebook.com/mustafa.a.gurler/media_set?et=a.10151255214074074.484310.724789073&type=3

Great stuff.

RB leaving for work...........

Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 27, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
Here are the first two books to arrive of the new batch; The first one from 1936 is in fact a pulp solely prose. The second one Verde Falcon is a nice shaded artwork book with the lead character being a detective type. Nice art though. Hope to scan the 2nd one soon. I am sure there is no real interest in the first one.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 28, 2013, 03:14:29 AM
Have you checked the pulp section? There is interest in prose pulps
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on September 28, 2013, 06:48:04 PM
at what size or resolution would I Scan the printed pages at?

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on September 29, 2013, 12:02:19 AM
I have only scanned a couple pulps and do not remember what I used. Maybe someone who has more experience will speak up
Title: Who IS that Guy
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 03, 2013, 04:03:09 AM
Meet Professor Nemo 1956.....origin story.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on October 03, 2013, 10:13:50 AM
Here are some on ebay you might be interested in Richard

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philippines-MELCHORA-A-AQUINO-MWC-19-/200404044251?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2ea90309db

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Philippines-1958-EXTRA-KOMIKS-168-JOE-GATCHALIAN-/200359768572?pt=US_Comic_Books&hash=item2ea65f71fc

and a lot more from the seller
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on October 03, 2013, 01:36:22 PM
So you solved the mystery and now we have aname for the masked man.  Well done.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 03, 2013, 06:59:52 PM
Dear Narfstar,

Thank you my friend for the links. I looked through the books (all 513 of them) and sent a few questions on some of the older Philippine ones (1947-48) for content. We shall see what happens. Not going to do me much good if there is something of interest as I am broke from Italy purchases right now. But thanks again and if you see anything of interest don't hesitate to let me know.

Richard
Title: Die Swart Adelaar
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 03, 2013, 07:37:28 PM
Also..........I am trying to save some money up in case there is anything going on with this gentleman that I know who is leaving for South Africa in February, so I am keeping a sharp lookout for Die Swart Adelaar, Supermask and Son of Samson photo novels to buy before he goes so the books can ship to his sisters house in South Africa and he can bring them on back to the UK with him. Let's hope something comes up between now and mid-January.

RB @ Work

Here is the latest Die Swart Adelaar cover I have found # 20......
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on October 04, 2013, 01:59:04 AM
Let me know in any of the books are super I might get some
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 08, 2013, 10:09:44 PM
So guys.....I am now working on my 1960 through 1979 Italian listing on my spreadsheet. Here is who I have tracked down so far> the ones with * I have only an "Idea" based on articles I have read but not found any info other than a date of publication but no publisher or pubication/comic. Help if you can.

Atlas   1960
Atoman   1965
Atomik   1962
AZ-10   1965 # 1 / 1967 # 19
Barbel   1965
Capitan Mistero   ?
Junior   1960
La Spia Mascherata   1965
L'Ombra   1966
Makabar   1970
Medium   1974
Radar   1961
Sangoor   1968
Spyder   1969
Super Women   1966

Now........I know there are the "Black Masks" such as Kriminal and Diabolik, Santanik, Mister X, Domino, Demoniak, Il Morto, Sadik, Killing, Zakimort, Jinfernal, Cobra, Genius, & Fantasm.
Are there any that I have missed or that perhaps are not Italain in origin or that maybe went good guy down the road. As you may have noticed there is nothing beyond 1974. That is because so far I have not found anything "new" good guys or gals and the same goes for the bad boys and broads. Anything here either would be a help too. Let me know.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 11, 2013, 09:02:08 PM
At last! Mistero Comics N
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 15, 2013, 11:23:53 PM
Ok I lied.....here are a few more bought today,,.........

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Title: O Flama Part One
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 17, 2013, 10:30:32 PM
Something different.....From Brazil.....translated from Portugu
Title: O Flama Part Two
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 17, 2013, 10:34:41 PM
Part II.....

The success of the hero was so great , that created the " Secret Agent Club of the Flame " , with the distribution of thousands of ID cards that identified each of the agents , facilitating their access to the auditorium of Radio Borborema Saturdays, the later , when the famous meetings were held , attended by the entire cast and abundant giveaways with gifts .

As the Globe publisher at the time , decided to publish the magazine " Jerome , the Hero of the Wild " in comics , I decided not to for less and began to draw a similar journal , with new adventures of Flame , whose clich
Title: O Flama Part Three
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 17, 2013, 10:35:52 PM
Part III.....

The main measure was therefore taken immediately: since rented a house in a neighboring property to Laureano Hospital , where , through an opening in the wall , passing doctors and nurses who cared for permanently Dona Nair , unless she needed be hospitalized , who had already installed in your room , the 
equipment necessary for your treatment , having been thus with these provisions , which my mother lived for another ten years , spreading warmth and love to their children . In the same year , I started working also in the Correio da Para
Title: The Eagle from Australia
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 23, 2013, 10:44:48 PM
For OZman  the Eagle

See attachment:
Title: Mystery Woman Solved
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 24, 2013, 02:24:47 PM
Mystery Woman Solved...... From Mistero Comics comes Fatma a compatriot of Hara Sahib in what fashion I am not sure yet. But she is the mystery woman on the cover of that book (see attachment). It may be awhile before I scan this book as it is a 45 page book not including covers which is another 4 pages.... soon I hope.

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: OzMan on October 25, 2013, 01:39:49 AM
Nice pic Ricard, thanks for that!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on October 29, 2013, 09:51:33 PM
My last purchase for October from Italy another issue of Zamorro.......see attachment

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Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 05, 2013, 12:38:24 AM
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Part 4 of 5

Strengthening of censorship

In 1938, the international trend radical domestic policy. Mussolini said his rapprochement with Hitler by participating in the creation of the Berlin axis Rome, the wars in Ethiopia and Spain. The new Ministry of Popular Culture, created in 1937, strengthens the confidence and inspiration from Germany has banned comics like American Hollywood cinema. This is the first time that the Italian State has a dedicated management culture administration. After 15 years of rule, it is more propaganda, but to unite the people in Italianization culture. However, in practice, this ministry regime strengthens the control and guidance. In 1938, his minister, Dino Alfieri, proclaims: "Press for youth should have an educational ambition inspiring heroism Italian, especially military, the Italian race the past and present" (GORI . et al , 2011, p. 187).

It prohibits all import subjects or American imitation, except Disney productions are characterized by their "artistic merit and morals" (GORI et al .) 9 . It also calls for the reduction half of illustrated pages that will be replaced by texts. The National Congress for children's literature in November 1938, the instructions are clear: "A mediocre book an Italian mediocre writer is better than the famous books by famous authors, but foreign" (finocchi and Marchetti, 2004, p 165. ). This is the slogan of the regime. The use of cultural and educational sector to expand  it consenso (consent) into the foreground (MATARD-BONUCCI and MILZA, 2004). Consumer culture to relax, or distraction is not among the ideals espoused by the regime. Mass culture is cosmopolitan while foreign influences are hated by the fascists who conceive a national consciousness. Publishers panic, they try to intervene, but the time is interrupted confabulations. The Department remains firm. Publishers yield and they announce their disappearance player series.

Why then the permission granted to Mickey and others? The legend says that these stories were very well liked in the Mussolini family but the reality is certainly more complex. If it is almost certain that Mussolini met the Disney brothers when they came to Europe and obviously he liked their films as well as
their characters. Guido Bonsaver entitled a chapter of his book "Mussolini, the supreme censor" its role is crucial as to prohibit allowing (Bonsaver, 2007). Notwithstanding this result undoubtedly action Mondadori who has the confidence of the regime and is a dominant player in the youth sector editor. We also know that the King Features Syndicate, dealer stamped Disney work had some influence with the notable fascists. William Randolph Hearst knows Mussolini, they met in 1931 and he was offered a lucrative publishing contract. There is no proof, but we can imagine that this collusion was driven by a few well distributed commissions. These actors, very influential in the fascist sphere, so successful in obtaining this notable exception (GORI, 2011). But the anomaly Disney opens the door to compromise difficult to justify only Mickey and As, other exceptions are necessarily introduced, for example The ??Phantom or . Popeye However, foreign imports decreased considerably and publishers make more use of Italian designers. The artists and writers take refuge in history, patriotic saga knows its heyday, for example written by Federico Pedrocchi and designed by Rino series Albertarelli A gentiluomo sedici anni di published in Topolino . The titles of the series illustrate the nationalist bent as Alla conquista di un impero Chiletto designed by Franco and written by Guido Mellini. In The avventuroso , this is a story about the Battle of Macalle 1896 I tre Macalle di Giove Toppi, which replaces Flash Gordon . The exaltation of the past is enhanced and great novels of Salgari, Malot, De Amicis are appropriate. Many authors do not, however, have the skills to invent and sc
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 05, 2013, 12:41:55 AM
Part 5 (A)

Italy's Post-War Resistance Movement in Contemporary Comics

In his book on historical comics in America, Witek observes that comics function as particularly subversive spaces in which established historical fact comes to be challenged or Viewed from alternative perspectives (Witek 1989: 48-56). Does the same hold true in other contexts and in other countries? To begin addressing this question, look at several Graphic novels and comic strips published between 2006 and 2008 that take as their subject a rather contested area of contemporary Italian history, the post WWII struggle known As la Resistenza (to be defined in detail in a moment).

Focusing on comic work that treats a specific moment of the past, we can make observations and conclusions that may apply to historical comics in general, at the very least, Such examination can open discussion about them. La Resistenza as that specific historical moment will be of particular interest first, because of its current disputed status in Italian politics. Second, perhaps related to this status, Resistenza comics have witnessed a small surge in production relative to previous decades and, more interestingly, 
Comic artist
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 05, 2013, 01:09:13 AM
Part 5 (B)

While escapism remained a primary goal of adventure strips in general, comics creators often based their stories on documented episodes of la Resistenza and would call their readers'

attention to it, they integrated photographs, reproductions of documents, or historical data into the panels, noted within captions that questa storia e` vera, at times in combination. This trend of entertaining didacticism with an explicit historical reference never completely dissipated, and one still observes it today. Catalogues of two commemorative exhibitions collect and briefly analyse Resistenza comics from the late 1940s through the 1970s, No al fascismo!, la Resistenza nella narrativa grafica, presented by the Istituto nazionale per la documentazione sull'immagine di Sansepolcro which opened in Florence on 25 April, 1975, and Per la libert
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 05, 2013, 01:13:26 AM
Part 5 (C)

Faux-tography

Artists have incorporated another documentary source, the photograph, into the vast majority of esistenza comics, whether from the 1940s or last year. Italian comic artists over the years have borrowed from a practice of the wider commemorative tradition that collects portraits of partisans into books or on public monuments. To adapt this practice to their own medium, artists include reproductions of photos within panels, draw directly from photos, or, less often, invoke the photo/Polaroid image as a panel frame. Like a 
foundation on first hand testimony, this device has the effect of authenticating a comic's narrative, but deceptively, as is the case for photography in general, an image brought to us from another time and place conceals and omits just as much as it allows us to see (among others, Barthes famously muses on inexactness and the photo in Camera Lucida [1981]). Also like first-hand testimony, the inclusion of photography can serve to reinforce established traditions and imagery related to Resistenza memory, the 
photographic portrait of the partisan will be familiar to Italian readers and call to mind the commemorative practice mentioned above. The comic image invokes the established narrative, which informs reader interpretation.

Just as artists use first hand testimony to achieve a range of results in Resistenza comics, photography can offer more than a simple reference to artistic traditions already in place. For example, the anthology Resistenza, Cronache di ribellione quotidiana features Dario Morgante and Thomas Birres short strip In futuro ci scorderanno [In the future they'll forget about us]. Morgante's text of this minimally narrative piece recounts an episode in the area of Leonessa on Italy's northern plain with facts, figures, 
reproduction of documents, while Birres's images provide an emotionally charged, figurative counterpart to the words. As Costantini uses Ultimo to delve into alternative manifestations of the partisan figure, Birres portrays groups of partisans that Italians do not often encounter in traditional photographic commemorative works, in addition to the standard robust young men, he also depicts an older man, women, and, perhaps most disturbingly, a trio of hanged partisans (of both sexes). Birres employs multiple styles to depict these partisans, making for a visually stunning strip, for this argument though, I will only call attention to those images whose style invokes photographs. This affect is achieved namely by the style of drawing, but also by vertical captions along their sides or frames that recall a Polaroid (I have confirmed with the artist that he referred to specific photographs, some of which reside at Rome's Museo della Resistenza). Birres drawings allude as much to the photograph form as they represent particular photographed subjects. What does it mean when an artist chooses to draw photos in a stylised manner, when the tradition permits and even encourages their direct inclusion into a strip or a photo-realistic style of drawing them? 

With this choice, whether he intends to or not, the artist calls attention to his role as mediator between the history he portrays and the reader. Writing about photographic inclusions in Maus, Cioffi remarked that "by inserting a photo, an artifact from 'our' world, into the closing pages of the narrative, Spiegelman reminds readers that their constructed version of the Holocaust story has behind it an actuality, with guards and uniforms and real people: here is a photo from that world" (Cioffi 2001: 119-120). In his own piece, Birres invokes a "photo from that [past] world," and he goes a step further, indicating that the images on the comics pages are from our own time and world and have been interpreted by the hand of the artist. While the portrayal of partisans is sympathetic to the established Resistenza narrative, his means of executing his drawings serve as a literal reminder that forces of the present inform and even
reconstruct Resistenza history and memory.

Fiction as a channel to fact

Comics that root themselves in documentary sources make up the entirety of Resistenza comic work, with one exception, to my knowledge, to which I will turn now. Alberto Pagliaro's series Storie Partigiane has appeared roughly every month in the humour/satire magazine Il Vernacoliere and on the artist's online blog since April 2007 (I will discuss the communicative implications of online work in a moment), and it merits some attention for a couple of reasons. First, in it, the reader encounters a very different picture of partisans than those of the pedagogical comics mentioned at the beginning of this paper, reminiscent of adventure strips of previous decades. In Pagliaro's series, partisans cuss, ogle women through their
binoculars, fight physically, argue, and antagonise each other. At the end of the strips, it is clear that they participate in the same fight as the official narrative's dutiful partisan, strong in his camaraderie with his fellow combatants, but the day-to-day behavior and antics of Pagliaro's characters reflect a rather different paradigm, or at least, an under-represented aspect of the partisan experience. Further, the reader encounters characters who are not partisans themselves, but who aid in the struggle, again, the question arises of what Resistenza entails.

Besides portraying alternatives to the official narrative's version of the partisan, Pagliaro's strip stands out among other Resistenza comics because of its non-historical basis, he finds inspiration for his strips not in specific episodes from the past, but in his own daily experiences (he recounted these origin stories, so to speak, in an interview at the opening of Una storia partigiana, the artist's first public showing of this series, in Lastra a Signa, 25 April, 2008). A fictitious account of la Resistenza, though, may not be without merit, as it can serve to activate memories and post-memories that do correspond to actual events. Scanning the comments of Pagliaro's blog-readers, one finds instances of close reader identification with the strips, or of their connection between the strips and their grandparents stories of partisan activity. Pagliaro has struck a chord with his readers, and even if he is not telling a factual event, his work serves
as an access point to very real, personal history and stories for them. Witek asserted that there is a space between the historical fact and experiential truth, and that "'realism' becomes a conspiracy between writer and reader, not an essential relation between certain texts and the world of experience" (Witek 1989: 116).

Even though the connections Pagliaro's readers make with his strips are probably not quite the conspiracies that Witek had in mind, the point still stands that one can reach reality by means other than fact. With the online incarnation of Pagliaro's strips, a reader reaches another access point, this time, into the comic itself. When a reader looks at his blog, which includes all but the first strip of Storie Partigiane, he or she finds information related to the creative process, allowing a greater understanding of the work's content, in much the same way that Ultimo's documentary supplements reveal the research that went into the project or the way that Birres' drawings in In futuro ci scorderanno encompass both the forms of the
documentary source, the photograph, and of the mediated interpretation, the drawing. Further, contact with the artist and with other a reader promotes exchanges not only about the strips themselves, but the memories and perceptions they invoke. This channel into individual memory is invaluable in a climate where the historiography of la Resistenza remains malleable, and political forces continue to work towards establishing a generalized national memory where these individual experiences may be glossed over.  It should be noted that the Internet as a site for accessibility and discussion is not limited to Pagliaro's strip: Costantini, Carnoli, and Colombari have made Ultimo available for download for free in its entirety, and
artists who publish work in the anthologies Resistenze and RES-istanze include their email and/or blog addresses. This online access to artists and their work multiplies possibilities for discussion about the art of a comic and the history it portrays. Conclusions, Refocusing on the reader. So, what can one conclude about la Resistenza as comic artists from the past few years have interpreted it? In conjunction with currents from Resistenza scholarship and from the international comics scene, one can trace, first and foremost, an increased presence of the artists within their work. When treating a national history, this has implications distinct from fictional or more personal autobiographical comics. Besides the problems and possibilities we have already mentioned, this presence may constitute an attempt to participate in la Resistenza as a national experience, as the second or third generation's way of claiming one instance of national identity (Hirsch [2001] discusses this same claiming process as it applies to Holocaust and post-survivor generations). 
Title: Australia: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 06, 2013, 01:22:18 AM
Something different:

(much of this is directly lifted from International Superheroes UK which by the way is/was heavily contributed by myself and my website partner Darrin Wiltshire the rest is mine found on the net or elsewhere or assembled by me)

Part I

AU Characters

Air Hawk - Jim Hawk, a former Royal Australian Air Force pilot flying and intelligent agent, who operates the Air Hawk Charter service from Alice Springs. The charter service worked in conjunction with the Royal Flying Doctor Service (RFDS). Dr Hal Mathews was a close friend of Jim Hawk who worked for the RFDS and Sister Janet Grant belonged to the Australian Inland Mission, whose medical clinic adjoined the air strip. In the mid-seventies, Jim Hawk was granted a franchise to supply a special Emergency Relief Unit. The Unit's function is to relieve any Flying Doctor base in need of assistance and to be available for special emergencies. Hal Mathews had been seconded to work with the Unit and Janet Grant was now his full-
time assistant, with the change in responsibilities, the 'Doctors' part of the title was reverted to the singular. Routine charter operations were continuously disrupted by Jim Hawk's involvement in conflict with local and international villains.

Anthony Fury -

Atom Man -  Atom-Man had a belt that gave him various powers, including "radar vision" and flight.

*Atomic Trio (See Captain Power)

!*Black Hawk (2 words) - Able to become invisible through exposure to a special gas. The Black Hawk was a commando-style hero who operated in war-torn Europe. No reference to his nationality was made. He could render himself invisible using a gas released from his belt. Costume: Full-body suit with half-high turtle-neck collar. Wide belt holding a pistol holster. The belt also held a number of small (only slightly longer than the belt was wide) gas cylinders, mostly in back. Wide "Y" suspenders/harness (back and front). At the center of the "Y" is the emblem of a hawk's head. Domino mask.

*Blue Ray

Blue Ghost -  A masked & robed figure much like a Klu Klux Klan member in blue, as a crimefighter, could become intangible. The Blue Ghost was mistakenly believed to be a criminal by Inspector Hicks of Scotland Yard.

Captain Atom -  Rador - Able to fly at incredible speeds, superhuman strength, and invulnerability. He can generate tremendous heat from his body, fire bolts of atomic energy from his hands, and has "super-sensitive atomic-radar powers" that allow him to detect and listen to radio transmissions. He can also exhale incredible blasts of air due to his atomically powerful lungs.  After an A-Bomb blast fused Dr.Bikini Rador with his twin brother, the scientist discovered he could swap places with his now-superpowered sibling by exclaiming "Exenor!" Wanting to use this new ability for the greater good, Bikini would adventure under the alias Larry Lockhart, ace F.B.I. agent, then summon his brother, now using the name Captain Atom, when things got too hot for a normal man to handle.

*Captain Buck - Capt. Buck and the Blue Comet is a man who fears no danger. Climax Comics.

Captain Anthony Havoc  - After jointly designing an interstellar plane, the Sky Rover, with the Professor Edward Melville, Captain Anthony Havoc undertook an exploratory space mission that discovered the planet Karen. Havoc and his fellows befriended the Karenians, including their superhuman prince Kureston, and aided them against the evil Arkturians. When Earth was subsequently threatened by the Zerosians, a race of men living atop an invisible floating island hovering above the North Pole, Havoc returned home accompanied by Kureston, now named the Phantom Knight by another member of the expedition, and together the pair destroyed the Zerosians. The pair went on to defend Earth from dozens of other threats.

Captain Justice - Lance Harwood : While acting the cultured gentleman outwardly, journalist Lance Harwood was secretly the masked crimefighter Captain Justice, bringing down outlaws and "bushrangers" in Australia's Outback. Often accused of being a bushranger himself, he was often in danger of being shot by state troopers; for his part, he was more concerned with justice than the law, and given the option would try and talk criminals into giving themselves up rather than killing them. After a while he travelled to America to fight criminals in the Wild West too.

Captain Katseye - Scientific genius - Created by Will Donald and Hal English.

Captain Power - John Grant / Associates: Tommy Grant (Atommy, brother), Lynn Sanders Grant (Lynn the Atom Girl, sister-in-law) - Captain Power possesses superhuman strength and is invulnerable, both to physical force and to more subtle attacks, such as poison gas. He uses an anti-gravity metal to fly, using a jet-pack ("atojet") to guide his trajectory, and wears x-ray goggles which permit him to see through objects. His belt allows him to turn invisible, and he wields an atomic pistol. He travels the world in Miss Hotshot, an atojet propelled vehicle with can be a jet, helicopter or submarine.  Young "atomic scientist" John Grant discovers a ray which renders the human body indestructible while simulatenously gifting the recipient with superhuman strength. With his brother Tommy's assistance, he also develops an atomic pistol, an anti-gravity metal, a jet-propulsion unit worn on the shoulders, and a belt which can render the wearer invisible. After giving both himself and Tommy powers via the ray, John and Tommy agree that the world, full of greed and hate, is not ready for their inventions, which might end civilisation if they ended up in the wrong hands. Instead John proposes the pair form a "two-man army" to fight evil; an enthusiastic Tommy agrees, dubbing his brother Captain Power. On their first adventure they save Charles Sanders' company, Sanders Manufacturing, from sabotage by rival Olin Stefan; during this case, Atommy falls in love with Sanders' daughter, Lynn. They marry after a short romance, and Lynn undergoes exposure to the power ray, joining the brothers as Lynn the Atom-Girl, together forming the Atomic Trio.

Captain Strato - Captain Srato continually orbits the Earth 500 miles above the surface in a huge space-wheel known as
Title: Australia: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 06, 2013, 01:23:00 AM
(much of this is directly lifted from International Superheroes UK which by the way is/was heavily contributed by myself and my website partner Darrin Wiltshire the rest is mine found on the net or elsewhere or assembled by me)

Part II

*Dr. Nikola - As well as an astounding intellect, Nikola was incredibly strong and a master of disguise. A potent mesmerist, he is capable of hypnotising the strongest mind, and can fool people into seeing anything he wants. He has created a variety of mutant creatures which do his bidding. He is also a skilled chemist, having manufactured a drug which can extend life indefinitely. Dr Nikola was a master criminal, described as being slightly above average height, with broad shoulders, "perfectly shaped" muscular limbs, but very slim, with small hands and feet. He had glossy black hair and was clean shaven (his face "was destitute of beard or mustache"). He was handsome, with skin of a dark olive hue, and had piercing black eyes and pearly teeth. Impeccably dressed, his neatness "bordered on the puritanical". His age was difficult to deduce from his appearance, and he could have been anything between twenty-eight to forty; in reality he was thirty-three. His pet/companion was an enormous black cat with a literally unnatural intelligence. Charming and genial in person, Nikola was gifted with great intelligence, and despite his world-conquering aims was relatively reluctant to kill, sparing his nemesis Hatteras a number of times. When he kidnapped Hatteras' fianc
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on November 06, 2013, 02:10:56 AM
cool lots of neat info
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on November 06, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
Once again, an excellent piece of work.  If I wasn't so old and lazy, I'd like to have had a go at some of this myself.
A couple of points off the top of my head; Garth is based on the British newspaper strip of the same name. Very popular here for decades. Info and strips here:-
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/cartoons/garth/
There is currently a wee company in the U.K. reprinting classic strips of Garth and many other U.K. newspaper strips and if anyone wants the address, let me know.
Tim Valor is an ace pilot - as opposed to a costumed hero and was graced by nice work from John Dixon:-
http://www.lambiek.net/artists/d/dixon_john.htm
There seems to have been a slight tendency in Aus. comics to recall The Phantom in some titles, The Phantom being hugely popular an Australia.  Phantom Ranger had his back story adapted from that of The Phantom and Char Chapman is called, The Phantom of The East.  Just to be clear, Phantom Ranger wasn't only in Giant Size Western but had his own title. Info on the creator here:-
http://comicsdownunder.blogspot.co.uk/2006/12/jeff-wilkinson-phantoms-and-shadows.html
and covers etc. here:-
http://www.ausreprints.com/content/main/?group=16261
There is another character with that idea of going back generations but memory fails me.
Silver Starr is a S.F. spaceman type, with rocket pack and ray guns and is a curious mix of Flash Gordon (whose adventures were reprinted in Australia) and Adam Strange, although SS pre-dates him.
Captain Havoc was the partner of The Phantom Knight in their eponymously titled comic.
Lots I didn't know in your researches so ta  ;D
If you dig deeply enough in International Superheroes site, you'll find some of my submissions also ;)
Amending this to add that the art on Silver Starr is by Stanley Pit and is very good indeed.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 06, 2013, 06:37:29 PM
Hi Paw, again thanks for the links, except for the first one the rest are all old favorites, and some I should be using. You're not lazy and perhaps old (and I'm both), but truth be told this wasn't a finished product but more of a simple start for a friend (Hi Ozman!) and yes I have seen your name all over Internationsuperheroes UK along with Dennis Ray (another helper of great info!) and of course a few of our friends from here as well.

I am preparing for a large update to ISH UK starting (obviously) with Italy and then moving around the world. I will be doing this in bits and pieces so anyone who wants to help out with this project is free to help out and I will be posting other such things like this as time goes by right here. So any bad info (like Garth) or additional info is greatly appreciated.

Here is the missive I had with Loki....

Hi Richard

Yes, it's been a while since our last chat. I'd definitely be interested in any info you have on characters from around the world. The format you send is up to you - I can take it piecemeal, or you could send entire entries if you like. Whatever suits you. Looking forward to hearing more.

Regards

Stuart

On 16/10/2013 17:53, Boucher, Richard wrote:

Hello long time since we
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on November 06, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
I sort of fell out of contact with Stuart and it concerns me, so, if I can help him again, and you, I'd be glad to. 
Title: InternationalSuperHeroesUK
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 06, 2013, 08:11:50 PM
Hello Paw,

That's great! I'd certainly would appreciate the help. If you'd like how about a UK list of sorts, maybe like a starter list for me to work off of, ISH UK obviously is a good template to work off of (as I am using it as a starting point for the updates) or perhaps you would like Spain? Anyways whatever tickles your fancy is fine by me. I will be posting these lists as I get them started and/or done for critique and corrections or additions/deletions.

If anyone else here wants to help I feel that the ISH UK has been a great resourse for all of us and keeping it going and up-to-date is an important function I feel to feed the info as to inform and to receive information back as well. I'm sure Loki will tell you he has received a lot of info from people who have stumbled across his site over the years who have donated info and/or images and characters not known to some of us. Please help if you can.

RB @ Work.

Attachment: Gem # 33 a missing cover not seen on AUreprint site I think
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on November 13, 2013, 02:51:49 AM
Here is some info on Polish superheroes shared by a Polish GCDer.

Taking superhero genre more loosely I can give you some other series
and comics from Poland to look at:

http://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/wilq - the most popular from all
series I present here.
http://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/klasyka_polskiego_komiksu/5 - I
think this was the only "superhero" created during communism time in
Poland.
http://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/liga_obroncow_planety_ziemia - for
me it's rather a parody, but they do have powers and masks.
http://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/ratboy - this is also a border case for me.
http://www.komiks.gildia.pl/komiksy/ratman - just as this one.

And that's really it. There was also one character called Milkymen who
only appeared in newspaper strips, some of them were reprinted later
in magazine Krakers.

And about communism time - it wasn't that all was owned by everyone.
People had their properties (however there were areas like production,
where were many different restrictions) and there was some kind of
copyright law. And certainly there is such law now, and after
communism has ended anyone can protect and do protect his rights to
anything that was created back then. And since there were so few
comics then, and they are usually still very popular, all creators and
their families are very sensitive about publication of their works.
But I'll try to check somehow if there is anything I could publish at
CB+.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 13, 2013, 10:39:20 PM
Thank you Narfstar, that was very helpful. I liked those links a lot. :-)

RB @ Work
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World - Italy
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 15, 2013, 05:25:12 AM
All Italy books have arrived now. Time to get scanning.

RB @ home

Attachment: SupermanVsFantomaActual
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on November 15, 2013, 11:44:46 AM
Kit-Boy is pretty cool. Would love to have complete story arc and know Spanish
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on November 15, 2013, 04:27:55 PM
Narf,
Looks like you got part of your wish anyways. Good going Mr. Broon!

RB @ Work

Attachment: El Fantasma Vengador (bidding on this on Ebay)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on December 06, 2013, 12:12:20 AM
Hello All....
Anyone know who this winged character is? See attachment.

RB @ Work.
Title: International Crimefighters From Around the World movies.
Post by: mr_goldenage on January 15, 2014, 12:47:20 AM
I am currently working on Volume # 4 and 5 of International Crimefighters From Around the World, which are live action movies from different countries typically pre-1980's (more likely than not the 1960's or 1970's are the main years) from countries like the UK, Italy, Japan, Hong Kong, and Turkey just to name a few countries out there. The first 3 people who got the first three volumes can at least attest to the fact that they were fun to watch even if the language barrier (where no subtitles existed) may have proven to be a barrier.

So..........who's interested in Vol # 4 & 5? I only make one original of each. So let me know.

RB @ Work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on January 15, 2014, 02:19:54 AM
Yes I agree they were fun to watch. I will promote you sharing the joy with others who should speak up.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on January 15, 2014, 04:34:31 PM
Fun to watch? An understatement, perhaps? And the lack of subtitles in some doesn't spoil that fun. The ones that are terrible are still worth watching.  But I'm sure we all have different opinions of what was bad or good.  I discovered characters I didn't know existed in films.
Which British films have you found?  I'm struggling to think of any superhero/ MMM movies from here. Don't keep me in suspense.
As I have benefited from your largesse, maybe other folk would like this lot.  Speak up you lot, you know it makes sense.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on January 16, 2014, 04:39:46 PM
How about the Big Zapper 1973? and Condorman ok this one is crap I can admit. Other than that most of the Brit ones are TV fair. Sorry not too much from the UK that I know of.

RB @ Work.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 04, 2014, 10:43:32 PM
Hello all.

How are you all doing? I know I have been absent of late. But I hope to return soon. Thank you for being patient in my absence.

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on April 05, 2014, 02:24:59 AM
Noticed your absence. Glad to have you back.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on August 16, 2014, 11:49:13 PM
Bought me an A3 scanner toady. NowI can start scanning those oversized books!

RB
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on August 17, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
awsome
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: crashryan on November 09, 2014, 02:48:14 AM
Do any of you fans of Australian comics know of somewhere I can find examples of Stan Pitt's "Silver Starr"? Outside of a few tantalizing panels in a fanzine many years ago, I've never seen anything of this (apparently) famous comic.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on November 09, 2014, 03:38:08 PM
As it happens, my pal Russell had a photcopied, colour on glossy paper, squinty pages version of #1, "Operation Space Disc" originally published 1952?  and he was prepared to do a trade for it.  It's been in my scan pile for a while, mainly as it looked really difficult to get all the staples out.  However, it's now done and scanned and uploaded to the Australian section, but, some pages have been badly photocopied and my best, amateurish efforts only improve it a wee bit.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: crashryan on November 10, 2014, 02:07:52 AM
That's what I call service! What a treat to see Silver Starr at last. I had no idea the strip was printed in color; I thought it'd be black and white like most Australian comics. Beautiful Raymond-style artwork.Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on August 10, 2015, 01:49:25 AM
Since all the characters but La Reyna Negra came from CB+ I wanted to share this here. Besides the fact I am pretty proud of it. See who can identify the characters. They all come from covers in the Spanish section here. BTW: we have no Latina superheroes here.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Black Kitten on February 28, 2016, 05:47:16 PM
In the early 1970s I bought my brother some reprints of British story papers that were originally published during the First World War.
One of them had a few chapters of a character called Batsowl.
I cannot remember the name of the publication he appeared in, and am not absolutely sure he was called "Batsowl".
Remember that they were my brother's property, not mine.
I think he was a wealthy man who lived in a mansion and dressed as a bat, but was created more than twenty years before Bob Kane created that other guy who dressed as a bat. What was his name?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on February 28, 2016, 06:17:37 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XKCf0PDbNB0/TT3UaszDp6I/AAAAAAAAALo/wn2grv-M-Ds/s1600/Batsowl.jpg

check that out on the 'net.

Indeed it was BatsOwl.........Years before Bob Kane put pen to paper and created Batman, there was another caped crusader "Batsowl!" appeared in Illustrated Chips in 1918. By day this British hero was meek Desmond Devance, 20th Earl of Batsowl, and by night he became a masked being who flew with huge bat wings that folded into a cape.

FYI

Richard Boucher AkA Mr_Goldenage

Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: narfstar on February 29, 2016, 03:55:22 AM
That is really cool
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on February 29, 2016, 10:03:57 PM
thanks.....glad you liked it..... I hope to get back to this subject sometime this year. Having fun with comp's as I sort out my Non-English books ready for scanning.....more good stuff coming soon. Take care.

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on March 02, 2016, 02:50:01 PM
I get the feeling we've been here before.  Batsowl is certainly a familiar name so perhaps one of us has mentioned the character previously.  I also mentioned a very early flying, costumed hero, Flying Justice, from
Boy's Friend in 1927.  And of course, we have 2 Black Whip stories on CB+, from 1933, if memory serves.  Black skintight costume, mask, big whip and a his sidekick is a big dog.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on March 02, 2016, 02:54:12 PM
I think it was you Paw that brought up this in a request from someone (probably me)...and given that I was just responding to a question. Thanks....didn't know we had Black Whip stories here....thanks for that. Take care my friend.

Richard

Post Script: Paw check this out - http://www.philsp.com/homeville/
Title: Comics From Around the World: USA - Fox Features Syndicate
Post by: mr_goldenage on April 21, 2016, 12:57:19 AM
Fox Features Syndicate - Comics From Around the World: USA. So....78 "compilations"....WOW I must say. I figured maybe 30 plus but less than 40 comp.'s done (I only counted them because I was curious!). That's what it took to do a company like Fox. I could have made some comp.'s have a bigger page count but at the cost of smaller scans. Now the "Big 4" and characters who made it to their own books got smaller scans due to the fact of their larger page counts. So anyways.... it was a great exercise on how a company like Fox would take to do and how much work would be involved, for the next time I do another company say like Nedor/Standard might take. Which made me choose a different route on the next ones I do (Great Pub. and Ajax-Farrell) VS the ones I wanted to tackle next (Nedor, Ace and Centaur). But discussions of other comp.'s let's save for a separate post. Back to Fox.

I picked Fox for two reasons: One...they were an early company and two... they went out of business (for the first time) right before 1942 like Centaur. Not to mention they had a lot of cool super hero-heroines characters. Given that, I enjoyed the variety of characters and some of them had some cool concepts. Some favorites of mine were the Fox Features Presents series, Fox Force, the Black Fury and Chuck, the Black Lion and Cub, and the Lynx and Blackie (and by extension the Moth) were other comp.'s I liked a lot. The Eagle and Buddy, V-Man and US Jones were a lot of fun. Well most were fun to do, even the Blue Beetle (and Sparky/Spunky) and the Green Mask (and Domino) both versions of the Green Mask. Least favorites were Samson and David, and the Flame/Flame Girl. O...let us not forget Stardust the Super-Wizard, what a concept! Makes one wonder who would win in a contest between Stardust and the Spectre.

Now for those so inclined, you can create your own Fox Universe. Imagine a League of Heroes of Fox. Or some of team-ups between the various characters ala Worlds Finest. I even threw in a few Villainesses and a pair of space/sci-fi strips and two underwater types for variety. All in all I really liked the comp.'s and how they turned out and look forward to the next ones. Just my thoughts. Yours?

Richard Boucher AkA Mr_Goldenage
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on May 06, 2016, 10:12:33 PM

Fox Features Syndicate - Comics From Around the World: USA. So....78 "compilations"....WOW I must say. I figured maybe 30 plus but less than 40 comp.'s done (I only counted them because I was curious!). That's what it took to do a company like Fox. I could have made some comp.'s have a bigger page count but at the cost of smaller scans. Now the "Big 4" and characters who made it to their own books got smaller scans due to the fact of their larger page counts. So anyways.... it was a great exercise on how a company like Fox would take to do and how much work would be involved, for the next time I do another company say like Nedor/Standard might take. Which made me choose a different route on the next ones I do (Great Pub. and Ajax-Farrell) VS the ones I wanted to tackle next (Nedor, Ace and Centaur). But discussions of other comp.'s let's save for a separate post. Back to Fox.

I picked Fox for two reasons: One...they were an early company and two... they went out of business (for the first time) right before 1942 like Centaur. Not to mention they had a lot of cool super hero-heroines characters. Given that, I enjoyed the variety of characters and some of them had some cool concepts. Some favorites of mine were the Fox Features Presents series, Fox Force, the Black Fury and Chuck, the Black Lion and Cub, and the Lynx and Blackie (and by extension the Moth) were other comp.'s I liked a lot. The Eagle and Buddy, V-Man and US Jones were a lot of fun. Well most were fun to do, even the Blue Beetle (and Sparky/Spunky) and the Green Mask (and Domino) both versions of the Green Mask. Least favorites were Samson and David, and the Flame/Flame Girl. O...let us not forget Stardust the Super-Wizard, what a concept! Makes one wonder who would win in a contest between Stardust and the Spectre.

Now for those so inclined, you can create your own Fox Universe. Imagine a League of Heroes of Fox. Or some of team-ups between the various characters ala Worlds Finest. I even threw in a few Villainesses and a pair of space/sci-fi strips and two underwater types for variety. All in all I really liked the comp.'s and how they turned out and look forward to the next ones. Just my thoughts. Yours?

Richard Boucher AkA Mr_Goldenage

Sounds Great,how can I create my own fox universe?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: fate man on October 30, 2016, 05:53:21 PM
I Want to know how I can create my own fox universe.
I Am sorry to repeat my self.
Title: Looking for two books
Post by: mr_goldenage on March 29, 2018, 12:26:30 AM
edward r. home-gall had two books in the Human Bat series. I am looking to buy these at an affordable price .....is there anyone who can help me out here? Your thoughts and comments are appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Richard Boucher AkA Mr_Goldenage
Title: Your help is needed!
Post by: mr_goldenage on March 29, 2018, 03:28:42 AM
I have found one of the books but they won't ship to the USA. Only to the UK. I am more than willing to pay for shipping to the USA but I need a UK address to ship to. Is there anyone that can help me out here? Obviously I would pay for the book myself so I just need an address to have the book ship to. Thank you in advance good people.

Richard Boucher AkA Mr_Goldenage
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on March 29, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
I might just be able to help with that ;D
I'll send a pm with my details, although I think you already have them.
Bear in mind that while the book might get to me relatively quickly, international post to you could take a wee while.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: mr_goldenage on March 29, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Thanks Paw,
Paid 4 and on it's way to you soon I would imagine. Thank you my friend.

Richard
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 11, 2019, 01:49:32 AM
mr_goldenage mentioned Kazanda The Wild Girl and the Lost Continent. This was apparently a New Zealand one-shot from 1942 (although each page has been formatted with its own title panel, so it may have been serialized earlier). In a reversal of the usual trend, according to GCD, parts of the 30-page original story were reprinted in Fiction House's RANGERS Comics #23-28. Perhaps this explains why Kazanda had the shortest run of any of Fiction House's jungle girls.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 11, 2019, 02:06:56 AM
The original 1942 New Zealand KAZANDA one-shot (which was followed in 1944 by a sequel, KAZANDA AGAIN) can be viewed in all its pristine black & white glory at http://soda.naa.gov.au/item/771775 (http://soda.naa.gov.au/item/771775)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: crashryan on February 11, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
Thanks for this link, positronic1. Very interesting comic, differing from the usual jungle girl tales thanks to the telepathy angle. The appealing art offers another example of the powerful influence of Alex Raymond had upon the world's comic artists.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 15, 2019, 07:21:32 PM
It's fascinating that this comic created 'down under' would have somehow found its way to the attention of Fiction House's editor. Or perhaps Kazanda's creators knew of Fiction House's predilection for publishing jungle girl comics (FH comics may have even found their way to New Zealand), and specifically submitted Kazanda for the editor's consideration.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on February 16, 2019, 05:51:21 AM
What I  find interesting is
1. The original Kazanda pages are drawn like a newspaper comic page with the title of the feature on each page, but apparently it was first published as a comic book.
2. The cutting up and moving around of panels for the Fiction House version. (There appears to be some new panels as well.)

I'm going through the Fiction House versions and updating the GCD's listings with comparisons to the originals.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 16, 2019, 04:10:34 PM

What I  find interesting is
1. The original Kazanda pages are drawn like a newspaper comic page with the title of the feature on each page, but apparently it was first published as a comic book.


I guess there's probably no way of knowing whether the individual pages of Kazanda had been serialized earlier in some periodical newspaper or magazine. Then again, it's just as likely that they may have been prepared by the creators -- New Zealand artist Ted Brodie-Mack, and his writing partner, Australian Archie E. Martin (who used the pseudonym 'Peter Amos') -- with that intent in mind, but they were unable to find any market for it and so published the 30 strips as a one-shot comic book. HOWEVER, it's important to note that 1944 sequel (which I have not seen), Kazanda Again -- if that one were also similarly formatted with each page having its own title box, that would tend to lend credence to the idea that the strips had appeared somewhere before being collected into a comic book. 30 individual strips (a full month's offering for daily papers) would be a reasonable number of pages to prepare in advance, with the intention of trying to sell the property as a daily strip. Since the sequel did not appear until two years later after the original Kazanada one-shot, if they were formatted like single-page strips that would tend to make me believe that they'd appeared in some publication earlier. If NOT formatted that way, it would tend to imply that the one-shot Kazanda had been successful enough to inspire the creators to put together a follow-up one-shot from scratch.

(https://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/b/brodie-mack/brodie-mack_ted_kazanda.jpg)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on February 16, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
I could be very wrong but I believe Kazanda is an Australian publication.  Having read the copyright applications etc. and the indicia, it's clear Iran's was published in Sydney.  Of course, there might well have been a NZ version before this one.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 16, 2019, 08:10:09 PM
Yeah, I had originally written Australian, but then got confused because the artist (Ted Brodie-Mack) is from New Zealand (while the writer, Archie E. Martin is indeed Australian) -- but I think you're correct that the publisher of KAZANDA was in fact an Australian firm.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on February 17, 2019, 08:25:52 AM
Here's what Jerry Bails had on the artist Brodie Mack (http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BRODIE+MACK%2C+EDWARD)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 17, 2019, 09:01:12 AM

Here's what Jerry Bails had on the artist Brodie Mack (http://bailsprojects.com/bio.aspx?Name=BRODIE+MACK%2C+EDWARD)


Interesting! I was not aware that Brodie-Mack is also attributed as having worked on TABU -- which was a long-running feature that appeared in nearly every issue of Fiction House's JUNGLE COMICS. Looking into this at GCD, all I was able to find was a single Tabu story attributed to Brodie-Mack, and that attribution came from a reprint in AC's MEN OF MYSTERY. Looking up the relevant reprint, I see it's linked back to its source as appearing originally in JUNGLE COMICS #134 (Feb 1951), yet the same credits don't appear on the GCD listing for JUNGLE 134. Looking at the issue here at CB+, it's credited on the original splash page as "by Mack"... but I can't really see a resemblance to the artwork from Kazanda there. I guess I'd have to go back and study the evolution of the TABU feature in Jungle Comics from the beginning to see if I could discern some point at which the artwork became more Kazanda-looking. Being that #134 is a much later JUNGLE issue, it may even be the case that that particular Tabu story had been reprinted from earlier in the run. Or it could just be a mistaken mis-identification with "Ted Brodie-Mack" being confused with an unknown artist who signed his work as simply "Mack".

The other thing noteworthy in Bails' brief summary is that Kazanda is attributed as "c(irca)1939" to both Australian comics, and to British comics. That certainly seems to allude to an earlier publication of Kazanda somewhere (perhaps even multiple 'somewheres'), prior to the 1942 N.S.W. Bookstall one-shot Australian comic book KAZANDA THE WILD GIRL AND THE LOST CONTINENT.

I'll have to look further into that "backup feature" Bails mentions in MARVEL COMICS from the years 1942-43. No, wait -- I just realized that Bails' listing of "Marvel Comics" refers only to the publisher of record, not to MARVEL MYSTERY COMICS from 1942-43... which unfortunately will probably make it nearly impossible to nail down exactly which "backup feature" (Marvel published a LOT of those in the years 1942 & 1943) Ted Brodie-Mack may have worked on there. Searching for "Ted Brodie" or "Ted Brodie-Mack" on GCD isn't returning much in the way of relevant results, beyond Kazanda and that one Tabu story.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on February 17, 2019, 09:43:00 AM
I'm on holiday right now, but when I get back home, I'll check the British guide.  Unfortunately, there are omissions and some errors so don't hold your breath for an answer.  The other possibility could be that, if the story did appear in th UK, it was serialized in one of the many anthology titles, and that could make it very difficult to trace.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World: USA - Fox Features Syndicate
Post by: positronic1 on February 17, 2019, 02:35:05 PM
O...let us not forget Stardust the Super-Wizard, what a concept! Makes one wonder who would win in a contest between Stardust and the Spectre.


The answer should be obvious... Fantomah. She would scare the shorts off even The Spectre.

Having said that, if Marvel Comics had owned Stardust, he could have solved the Galactus problem long before the Big G ever got around to troubling the FF.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on February 18, 2019, 06:31:31 PM
Re. Kazanda.  No listing in the British guide, but that doesn't mean the strip didn't appear here in one of the weeklies.  That could also be the reason the title is at the top of each page as British weeklies often had 1 page episodes per week.  More likely though is that it was a newspaper strip also.
International Hero site lists the character but simply reports that it was created for the Australian market.  No further forward, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 18, 2019, 10:28:19 PM
Well, thanks for the effort anyway, paw broon.

It's just a shame that Bails' listing is so frustratingly vague on details, listing only the publisher (if that even) and year of activity, and NOT specific publication titles or issue numbers. The credit for TABU ("1940s") isn't very helpful even though I know that Tabu appeared in JUNGLE COMICS. Well, the one story at GCD that attributes credit to Brodie-Mack specifically is reprinted from a 1951 issue of JUNGLE, so I guess I'd need to check every issue of Jungle Comics published in the 1940s, looking for that "by Mack" byline. Going back to JUNGLE COMICS #1, I can see that TABU, Wizard of the Jungle was created by Fletcher Hanks. Of course, like most features he created, he did not stay on it past the first year.

Even then, it seems dubious that an artist living in Australia was contributing first-publication work for an American publisher on some kind of regular basis. On KAZANDA, we know that it was reformatted and reprinted in RANGERS COMICS a couple of years after it had been published as a one-shot in Australia by N.S.W. Bookstalls, so that's clearly an unusual type of circumstance for Fiction House.

I also know that I can't completely trust Bails' data either, since he lists Kazanda as "c1939", when the work was definitely copyrighted in Australia in 1942. It hardly seems likely that the creators allowed the work to be published somewhere in 1939, waiting until a 1942 one-shot reprint to register a copyright on the work.

Studying the black and white one-shot a bit more carefully, I can see certain panels where Brodie-Mack took a decent amount of time to produce a lavish glamour shot of Kazanda, rendered in detail and with carefully-added gray tones. I can't help thinking in looking at these that he was working from a photo (or a live model, but probably a photo), and Kazanda's dress looks strikingly similar to the type of sarong worn by Dorothy Lamour in several films, such as Jungle Princess (1936) or Her Jungle Love (1938). There were several other similar roles she was cast in as well. I haven't been able to find of photo of Lamour where she's posed exactly like any of the images of Kazanda as drawn by Brodie-Mack, but I haven't spent THAT much time looking either. I'm just struck by the general resemblance of Kazanda to Miss Lamour, both in facial features and mode of dress, and can't help but think that she may have been the inspiration for Kazanda. Another possibility is Ann Corio, who appeared in Jungle Siren with Buster Crabbe, but Lamour was certainly far better known, worldwide.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hKwQFhfMiOk/T3wQAxQitmI/AAAAAAAADy0/WXCC-OAIgrA/s1600/Dorothy+Lamour+05.jpg)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTcwNDI5NTE3OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwMTQwNTk5MTE@._V1_.jpg)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on February 19, 2019, 03:50:48 AM
It's not unprecedented for an Australian comic to appear in the States. I think the Australian comic strip Ginger Meggs ran for a few issues in Popular Comics.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that there was a representative for Australian comics trying to sell them to American publishers. Unfortunately I don't remember where I read that so I can't double check it.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on February 19, 2019, 06:30:48 AM
Its very difficult to get information on Australian Golden Age comics.
Ted Brodie-Mack has a page in Lambiek but its not very informative.
https://www.lambiek.net/artists/b/brodie-mack.htm 

There are two books on Australian Comics dealing with that era. Firstly,
Panel by Panel: An Illustrated History of Australian Comics.by John
Ryan
. Here it is, complete with an article and a letter by Ryan. 
https://www.comicoz.com/panel-by-panel.html

More recently in 2018 Graeme Cliffe has published [ [i]From 'Sunbeams' to Sunset.- the rise and fall of the Australian Comic Book 1924 - 1965[/i]]
An article here.
https://www.comicoz.com/comic-related-news/progress-on-from-sunbeams
I have read Ryan's book but I do not own a copy. He was not, by his own admission, a born writer and its not an easy book to read. I'm looking forward to reading Graeme Cliffe's book.
Re Ted Brodie Mack, the publication of Kazanda in the US (and possibly the UK) is mostly likely to be something that happened at a Publisher Level and its unlikely that Brodie-Mac himself got much out of it.
Even in the seventies (pre-internet remember) it was quite difficult for an Australian comic creator to get regular work in the US or UK. Stanley Pitt was one who tried it, with limited success.
Modern Generation aussie fans have a limited knowledge of older comic history.
In evidence I offer this list,
http://www.tabula-rasa.info/AusComics/ComicsTimeline.html
You will note that the author lists nothing between 1975 and 1957. This is not necessarily so. Paul Wheelahan's Panther ( my Avatar) is well-known enough to be listed but not Wheelahan's other character, 'The Raven'
Readers of CB+ will be familiar with more early Australian creators and characters than the compiler of this list. Sad! [Did I just quote the Donald? Ouch!] The gradually increasing list of characters between 1985 and 2007 on this list might lead you to believe that the Australian scene is very healthy. Not so. You can mostly only buy a comic at a comic shop in Australia, not in a Newsagent (paper shop) so most of these will have had miniscule print runs. I'm not familiar with most of them,and not because I'm not interested. The success story in Australia is FREW with its Phantom comics, but that's another story.     

   
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on February 19, 2019, 01:08:12 PM
Design & Art Australia Online has a bio on him https://www.daao.org.au/bio/brodie-mack/biography/

Some place called AustLit https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/A45399

Some covers he drew in 1917 http://pikitiapress.blogspot.com/2014/04/brodie-mack-freelance-covers-1917.html

Some odds and ends  ;) http://www.pikitiapress.com/blog/2016/11/15/brodie-mack-and-peter-amos-publications

Some scans from the Brodie Mack Correspondence Art School booklet http://fraiing.blogspot.com/2009/07/brodie-mack-correspondence-art-school.html
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 20, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
You can mostly only buy a comic at a comic shop in Australia, not in a Newsagent (paper shop) so most of these will have had miniscule print runs.


So basically (unless you're including trade paperbacks and hardcovers) it's exactly the same situation as it is in the United States. The vast majority of titles being published these days sell less than 10k copies (most of them, much less) and can only be gotten from a comic shop (or online seller, or digital). Marvel, DC, and Image do a little better on average, since they have the most well-known characters -- but it's only a handful of titles that sell in the 6-figure range. You'd think with all the films being made that would have helped improve comic book sales, but not really. Back in the 1970s, they were cancelling titles left and right when they dipped below the 150k level. Granted, a comic book now costs about ten times as much, and sells a tenth as many copies now. There's practically no such thing as a casual comic book reader, so the entire burden of the market is being borne by hardcore collectors purchasing multiple titles on a regular basis, until they burnout or can no longer afford the hobby. The baby-boomer collectors who sustained the growth of the comic shop direct market in the 1980s and 1990s have pretty much aged out and dropped out.

Thanks for the links (also thanks to SuperScrounge for same). Some of these I've already hit in my searches for more info regarding Ted Brodie Mack, but I'll definitely be looking into the others.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on February 20, 2019, 03:56:51 PM
I'm afraid it's much the same in the U.K.  New comics are only really available in specialist shops and there seem to be fewer of those shops nowadays.  Titan have recently announced the cancellation of their superhero reprint books, leaving us with Doctor Who; Rivers of London and some other non DC books.  Marvel reprint titles still seem to be published and appear in WH Smith stores, although recently, they haven't been in the big supermarkets. Even Commando (DC Thomson) which has been running since the '60's and is well over 5000 is hard to find.  Cons seem to be full of gifts, knocked-off art, cupcakes, jewellery and very few comics.  With the odd exception. Fortunately there still are marts with more comics, although often it's relatively recent stuff and tpb's.
The price for floppies nowadays is also putting punters off.  Many fans I speak to don't think modern, mainstream comics are value for money. I tend to wait for a collection of the very occasional title that captures my imagination but that's not healthy for the hobby.
By the way, Rachel Stott is turning in good work on the new Titan Doctor Who series.  Well worth a look.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on February 21, 2019, 06:55:14 AM
The art in Rangers Comics #28 does not come from the original Kazanda book. So presumably it comes from Kazanda Returns, although if that's so, why didn't Rangers finish the story?
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: positronic1 on February 21, 2019, 11:33:42 AM

The art in Rangers Comics #28 does not come from the original Kazanda book. So presumably it comes from Kazanda Returns, although if that's so, why didn't Rangers finish the story?


It's definitely the same story reprinted (in part) from KAZANDA AGAIN, based on the cover of that Aussie comic book being a redrawn version of the panel at the bottom of page 3 (which shows Kazanda being carried through the trees by "the great ape, Kagor") of the Kazanda story as edited for RANGERS #28.

(https://www.lambiek.net/artists/image/b/brodie-mack/brodie-mack_ted_kazanda.jpg)(https://www.archiefans.com/index.php?media/file/kazanda-and-kagor.3706/preview/)

It's hard to say why the strip didn't continue past those 6 pages of "The Forbidden Kingdom" storyline. Perhaps the Sheena, Camilla, and Tiger Girl strips which were appearing in JUMBO, JUNGLE, and FIGHT appealed to the audiences of those comics, but readers of RANGERS had somewhat different tastes? That's the only thing that occurs to me, along with the fact that unlike the other FH jungle girls, Kazanda was never cover-featured on RANGERS.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on October 07, 2020, 11:19:22 PM
Thought I would put this here, rather than start a new thread.
I'm a huge devourer of Noir related material as well as comics,so Streets of Paris, Streets of Murder is one I will definitely be picking up.
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A globally acclaimed crime novelist and a pioneering cartoonist team up to bring readers two graphic novel noir thrillers, collected in an oversized format.

Jacques Tardi and Jean-Patrick Manchette.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Electricmastro on November 02, 2020, 02:03:08 AM
Art from Kurt Caesar
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on November 02, 2020, 02:55:05 AM
Superb Work!
This reminds me that George Evans, who drew Air War stories for EC comics, was the only person to criticize Joe Kurbert's work on Enemy Ace - on the grounds that details about his Aeroplanes were inaccurate! 
https://www.lambiek.net/artists/e/evans.htm
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After spending three years in the US airforces, he began his career in comics at Fiction House until 1950. There, he worked on among others 'Lost World', 'Senorita Rio', 'Air Heroes' and 'Tigerman'.

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When Fawcett folded, he was brought over to EC Comics by Al Williamson, where he was hired immediately in 1953. Thanks to his technical knowledge of airplanes and machinery, Evans quickly became Kurtzman's favorite on 'Two-Fisted Tales' and 'Frontline Combat',

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he drew covers and stories for the "New Direction" aviation title 'Aces High'.

This last is some of his best work.
http://comicsbulletin.com/aces-high-george-evans/
Scroll down the page to the Chivalry one pager. Its a stunner!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Electricmastro on November 04, 2020, 01:17:20 AM

Superb Work!
This reminds me that George Evans, who drew Air War stories for EC comics, was the only person to criticize Joe Kurbert's work on Enemy Ace - on the grounds that details about his Aeroplanes were inaccurate!


Didn
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Robb_K on November 04, 2020, 03:54:26 AM
A wooleywhipper????   Is THAT an Irish saying for a cold, super windstorm???  Sounds like an American writer who's never talked with any Irish sailors made that up based on the Western rural American "gullywasher", for a river flash flood.  Of course, he HAD to slip in a "Begorra!"  The author missed a chance by using the proper, "To be sure", in stead of slipping in the Irish colloquialism of "Sure an'  ".
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on November 04, 2020, 04:09:35 AM
Doing a search I found wooley whipper on a quiz asking which phrase is not a Canadian weather term https://www.davisinstruments.com/enews/e_news_archive/2015-09.php#q2.

Sadly they did not provide a definition, or where in Canada this term was used.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Robb_K on November 04, 2020, 10:17:21 AM

Doing a search I found wooley whipper on a quiz asking which phrase is not a Canadian weather term https://www.davisinstruments.com/enews/e_news_archive/2015-09.php#q2.

Sadly they did not provide a definition, or where in Canada this term was used.


I never heard it, so, I doubt it was a Western term.  I'd guess it was used in The Maritimes - Nova Scotia most likely, and possibly, also used in New Brunswick and Newfoundland.

It sounds like it would be a Nova Scotian (or general Maritime Provinces) colloquial term.  It probably came from those "Noreaster" Atlantic storms that buffeted Canada's east coast, with winds of over 150 mph,  when the wind came up in the middle of the night, ripped shutters off of protecting windows hanging by their hinges, and the gales were blowing into the house getting everything wet.  So, the father had to run outside in his woolly underwear and climb onto the roof to put the window back in place.  And the whipping wind whipped his woollies hard, making a loud noise.  It probably was coined between 1840 and 1890.

Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on November 14, 2020, 01:13:58 AM
Think this belongs here as well as anywhere. Once again CB+ was hard to access, which probably accounts for the dearth of posts, so lets get rolling.
First a shout-out to Mark who keeps the whole show on the road. Thank you for all the hard work.
This post is to note that one of comics hardest workers is no longer with us, having left us this year.
I refer to Cesar Aurelio Spadari. Cesar was an Argentinian artist who has been creating Phantom comics for the Swedish 'Fantomen'  and the 'Fantomet' (Norway) comic book since 1987.
Rest in Peace C
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Robb_K on November 14, 2020, 04:10:47 AM

Think this belongs here as well as anywhere. Once again CB+ was hard to access, which probably accounts for the dearth of posts, so lets get rolling.
First a shout-out to Mark who keeps the whole show on the road. Thank you for all the hard work.
This post is to note that one of comics hardest workers is no longer with us, having left us this year.
I refer to Cesar Aurelio Spadari. Cesar was an Argentinian artist who has been creating Phantom comics for the Swedish 'Fantomen'  and the 'Fantomet' (Norway) comic book since 1987.
Rest in Peace C
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on December 11, 2020, 08:53:39 AM
This is the most interesting comic I have seen advertised this month.

Zagor Flash #0
First issue of the crossover between Zagor and Flash

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/zagor-flash-0-la-scure-e-il-fulmine/4000-820681/

As Far as I can see, so far only available in Italian.

Does this mean that Zagor is about to join the DC Universe?  i have no idea.
If it means that DC is about to publish English translated Zagor books, I'm all for it.

Here is the sergio bonelli website.   

https://www.sergiobonelli.it/

The cover on Storie #99, set in New York, is a famous image from the Sergio Leone film, once upon a time in New York. One of my all time best movies.

https://www.sergiobonelli.it/le-storie/2020/10/27/albo/il-calzolaio-del-re-1008828/

Looks like I'm going to have to learn Italian as well as French. 


Cheers!
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Andrew999 on December 11, 2020, 01:04:44 PM
It's good to see Bonelli Editore breaking into the English-speaking market - they have a huge back catalogue and so much to offer.

My all-time favourite was Legs Weaver although that ended sometime around the turn of the century:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/legs-weaver/4005-65238/

Dampyr is another go-to character for me:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/dampyr/4050-29465/

A new Dampyr movie is in the works:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10315050/


Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: Captain Audio on December 11, 2020, 07:30:28 PM

It's good to see Bonelli Editore breaking into the English-speaking market - they have a huge back catalogue and so much to offer.

My all-time favourite was Legs Weaver although that ended sometime around the turn of the century:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/legs-weaver/4005-65238/




I wonder if the character of her room mate at the academy was based on the 70's B movie actress "Sybil Danning".
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on December 11, 2020, 09:33:45 PM

This is the most interesting comic I have seen advertised this month.

Zagor Flash #0
First issue of the crossover between Zagor and Flash


Bwha...?  :o

I've only read the Free Comic Book Day offering of Zagor, but my impression was that he was an old-west based hero who had weird adventures, so I'd assume a more likely crossover would have been Jonah Hex. Flash just seems way outside the range of natural crossovers. (Although Flash can go through time and other dimensions so it can work it just seems odd.)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: The Australian Panther on December 12, 2020, 04:09:05 AM
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Legs Weaver although that ended sometime around the turn of the century


Well, perhaps she is still featured in Nathan Never. I think that is still going.

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Dampyr
I haven't read the books, but is that some kind of pun on 'Vampire?'

Opps! Just looked it up. Answer, Yes!

Harlan Draka? Lets see a cross-over with Blade.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: paw broon on December 12, 2020, 09:18:24 AM
Being able to read a bit of Italian opens up a whole new world of comics, both modern and the back catalogue, which is big.
Apart from the titles mentioned, Martin Mystere and Dylan Dog are great reads..  Zagor has been going for yonks.  Lo Spiritu con La Scura. All sorts of weird western adventures.  There is so much more.
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: profh0011 on April 20, 2021, 08:17:18 PM
I have an issue of ZAGOR...

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oc451FkwcZA/W99PymFkHcI/AAAAAAAAo_w/boAWjI_9rEIs5hLDfOOGUiVGkEgULjOGwCLcBGAs/s1600/2004%2BBE%2BZG%2B531_cc_HK%2B%2BC700.jpg)

...also, one of DYLAN DOG...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FIaLERuTQV4/W99lIxxjL8I/AAAAAAAApAQ/GE8Uhf9oOycCozVQetK9aXt6oWEy3Z0wQCLcBGAs/s1600/2015%2BBE%2BDD%2B351_cc_HK%2B%2BC700shp.jpg)


Hmm.

;D
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: SuperScrounge on April 20, 2021, 11:43:16 PM
They're being attacked by the Japanese manga Uzumaki?  ;)
Title: Re: Comics From Around the World
Post by: profh0011 on April 21, 2021, 01:43:52 AM
I can't read Italian, and so far, I've only had a chance to translate 3 Dino Battaglia stories into English for my blog.  And who knows when (OR IF) I'll ever get around to these (one's in the early 2000s, the other in the 2010s), but I got these because they were obvisously paying some kind of tribute to Poe's "A Descent Into The Maelstrom".

This one's from Brazil!
http://professorhswaybackmachine.blogspot.com/2016/06/poe-1968-pt-8.html