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About The Comic Books We Have => Wanted Comics => Topic started by: Yoc on September 18, 2008, 01:36:29 AM
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Hi Gang,
This used to be a thread before the crash but I wanted to revive it.
I hope everyone here got to see and read The Phantom Lady Archives V1 that was posted here in the Quality Section some months ago. It was a looooong time coming but Phabox and myself were thrilled to have all of the Quality years of this decades spanning character's stories in the book.
BUT...
Vol. 2 will be focused on Phantom Lady's FOX years which we STILL NEED STORIES FROM.
The last page of v1 had a list of the stories we need either completely or would love to have a colour or non-fiche source for the collection.
Here's that list again. PLEASE click on the thumbnail and see if you perhaps own or know of a source for these missing stories.
(http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/4448/plv2missingchecklistyq8.th.jpg) (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=plv2missingchecklistyq8.jpg)
[UPDATED! 12.08.2008]
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Our first update!
OtherEric here on GAC has been a bright new light on the scanning scene this year and Phabox and I are thrilled to announce he has bought and scanned a copy of the last book on our above wanted list - Phantom Lady 23! It's the IW reprint from Great Action #9 so it is still missing the first splash page from the original but the rest of the Fox PL23 is reprinted in colour! (If you have access to paper, fiche or reprints of the first story please let me know here or in a PM)
So many many thanks to Eric for filling a big void in the missing Fox collection - three new stories that have never been reprinted since this one and only reprint from 1958! That's FIFTY-NINE YEARS since the original Fox printing and FIFTY YEARS since this IW reprint. Hard to believe it considering it's a complete Matt Baker book and a wonderful example of Good Girl Art featuring one of the most notorious female characters of the golden age!!
We thought it would be mean to hold back this amazing book from the public until we were done working on the Phantom Lady Archive v2 (whenever that finally happens) so here you go!
Check the Fox Section in the Phantom Lady folder for PL#23 and enjoy this long lost Matt Baker extravaganza! Highlights for most will likely be our heroine forced into swimming in just her silk undies from the third story. :P
Enjoy the scans and again a huge thank-you to Eric for his help!
Now please, let's see if we can't find the other missing stories from the above list before Phabox and I finally release our second of three Phantom Lady Archives volumes.
Thanks,
-Yoc
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You can also mark the first story from Phantom Lady #16 as found; we have it on the site. ;D
Also, as far as I know we need splash pages from the first stories in 14 and 15 as well. The IW reprints are great as far as they go; but they stop just one step short. :'(
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Great to see things moving forward on this project, needless to say a great BIG 'Thank You' to OtherEric for his invaluable help in getting us that much closer to completing this collection.
-Nigel
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Looks like All-Top Comics_010 and 011 could well be on the way soon.
:)SWEET !!! :)
-Nigel
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Yep, how sweet it is Nigel!!
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Thank-you very very much to archiver_USA for these two gems!
I've now updated the 'PL Missing Scans' thumbnail above.
What a fantastic week for Matt Baker fans!
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Phantom Lady Comics are a bit like London Buses, you wait forever for them then THREE come along at once !!!
-Nigel
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Right. I don't want it officially removed from the list until I have the book in my hands and can verify it's suitability.
But unless you want it for yourself, nobody else should bother grabbing a Phantom Lady 19 at this point.
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Phantom Lady Comics are a bit like London Buses, you wait forever for them then THREE come along at once !!!
-Nigel
Gee, it's the same thing with our streetcars in Toronto Nigel!
Nobody touch that Phantom Lady 19! It's Eric's see?! >:( ;)
-Yoc
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In addition to my earlier statement about the PL 19:
I don't want it officially removed from the list until I have the book in my hands and can verify it's suitability; but All-Top 17 is also on the "don't grab it unless you want it for yourself" list.
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Great days for the Fox collector!!
:) ;D :D
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Another Update! ;D
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First off Archiver_USA was amazingly generous enough to upload not just one but THREE issues of All-Top Comics to us last week!! :D
So cross off All-Top 9, 12, 13, and 16 from our wanted lists.
And TODAY I've just learned that OtherEric has gotten a copy of PHANTOM LADY #19 to scan!!
What an amazing couple of weeks we've had filling these very rare and often expensive holes in our Fox collection! Many thanks to Archiver and Eric for these scans!! :D
-Yoc
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You need to correct your updated list; you missed All-Top 16. :)
And unless something is dramatically wrong with the book when it arrives, the All-Top 17 should show up Tuesday.
Yoc has the raw scans for the Phantom Lady 19 now; look for it to be posted once he edits it. Despite being the 9th issue of Phantom Lady we have on the site (including the Ajax issues) it will be the first where we have c2c paper scans.
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Thanks Eric, I've added All-Top 16 and 17 to the FOUND listings.
A correction I loved having to make!
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Exciting days!
-Yoc
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Put it in the "tentative" pile until I have it in my hands and can verify it. But 22 should be on the way to me.
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Check the Fox Section in the Phantom Lady folder for PL#23 and enjoy this long lost Matt Baker extravaganza! Highlights for most will likely be our heroine forced into swimming in just her silk undies from the third story. :P
Enjoy the scans and again a huge thank-you to Eric for his help!
Now please, let's see if we can't find the other missing stories from the above list before Phabox and I finally release our second of three Phantom Lady Archives volumes.
Thanks,
-Yoc
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I think it is really important to understand that NOT ONE STORY in PL #23 is by Matt Baker. No matter what the GCD data says, these are ALL Iger Shop clones at work trying (not very successfully, IMHO) to imitate Baker. By 1949, Matt Baker had left the Iger Shop and was diligently creating scads of romance and westerns for St. John Publishing Co. Just compare some of his The Texan art from 1949 to these stories in PL #23 to understand the vast gulf between the master and the imitators. Matt Baker was an excellent artist and the people drawing these PL #23 stories were not. There MIGHT be some Jack Kamen pencils in the third story, but he wasn't trying very hard, if it's so.
I'm not very conversant with the Fox Phantom Lady's because they were always priced more than I was willing to pay, but if I can help on your next PL project with art IDs, Yoc, please let me know. I know Matt Baker's work as well as anybody (well, as well as anybody I KNOW), and I'm adamant about disclaiming the frauds that ultimately lessen his reputation. PL is another example of dealers WANTING it to be by Baker so that they can charge more money for it, and the attributions have stuck over the years. It's about time to set the record straight, don't you think?
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We absolutely want good identifications, Jim. I think they're relatively successful, but it doesn't surprise me that they're not Baker either.
I would be very interested in your assessment of the stories in the other issues we have; the more we learn the happier I am. And even if we thought the art in the later issues was good enough to be Baker I think we all knew it was lesser Baker work.
One question you might know: Overstreet used to say most of the Ajax Phantom Lady stories were by Baker; they have since backed off and only describe the first issue as by him with the others being "Bakerish". Is it even possible that he was working for Ajax in '54 or so?
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As far as I know, Eric, there is only ONE real Baker story at Ajax and it appears to be a shelf story that Iger must have "found" while cleaning up a closet or something. IMHO, it is IMPOSSIBLE for Baker, who was Art Director at St. John in 1954 and probably could (and DID) assign himself more work than he could handle, to have been working for peanuts at Iger at the same time. I mean, by 1954, even Fiction House (Iger's last remaining big account) was moving the artwork on most titles back to freelancers who were art-directed in-house. Iger was supplying Ajax and Superior and other lesser companies who were soon to disappear. To imagine Matt Baker coming back from one of his Mexican vacations where he was mailing penciled art work to St. John at decent page rates to suddenly drop by the now lowly Iger Shop and pencil a story "for old time's sake" is pretty ludicrous.
I must confess that I'm actually quite an iconoclast when it comes to Baker. And I'm pretty self-sufficient when it comes to comics history and comics prices. I haven't used a Price Guide to look up a "value" for decades. And I've long since given up giving them information because for years they refused to make "subtractions" of the ilk that Phantom Lady 23 WASN'T by Baker, although they were VERY happy to add that Gunsmoke Western #x DID have Baker in it. The Price Guide has been and continues to function primarily as an aid to dealers and I want no part of it. I'm a crotchety old collector who's earned every one of his mutterings.
Anyway, all that is leading up to my admission that I DIDN'T know that the PG had changed their tune on PL and Baker. Perhaps they're less of a "tool" than I've been thinking.
Do you have a pdf of the Fox PL issues. I'll be happy to look at it.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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They still say that PL 23 is Baker, although they admit that the cover isn't by him. They don't mention Baker at all on the All-Top issues, which is surprising since I think most people agree at least several of those are by him. They only list the first issue of the Ajax PL as having Baker art, with the Wonder Boy issues being called 'Bakerish'. So a 'found' story accounts for the one Ajax PL.
As far as I know, all the Phantom Lady scans we have are up on the site except for 19; Yoc is trying to fix horribly off-register coloration on that one. We have all the All-Tops; about half the actual Fox Phantom Lady issues, one Ajax (the other one is fiche and better than nothing to read the story but don't bother otherwise), and a very incomplete issue of Wonder Boy which has the PL story. And, like I said, I just won a copy of 22.
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Actually, I didn't mean to imply that the "found" Ajax Baker was a Phantom Lady story, Eric.
It's simply that BECAUSE there IS one Baker story at Ajax, the argument is constantly made that there must be more than one. I don't know the All-Top Phantom Lady's either. Again, it's a title that I could never afford (nor understand the value of).
IS there a pdf or single download that contains all of the Fox PLs? I really can't see myself downloading all the issues individually. Sorry, but it eats up CPU and the stuff I'm working on is kinda big. (The InDesign file for issue 11 of my magazine is 55 Megs, and the directory with the art scans is 14.5 Gigs!) Any simplification of downloading (i.e. I can select one file and download it overnight) is money (time) in my bank (day).
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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I just looked at All-Top #17, Eric,
and at the GCD entry for same. There's three credits for Baker pencils and inks and the ONLY one that is valid is the pencils on the PL strip. Everything else, including the inks on PL, are anonymous Iger Shop people. I simply don't understand how someone could look at the Rulah and JoJo strips and think that they are by the same artist as on PL. Boggles my mind.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Hi Jim,
You're always a wealth of information and I'd love to include your opinions on this subject!
Phabox and myself have started the Phantom Lady Archives in which we hope to cover all the various publishers to use the character(s) running from Quality in v1 to Fox in v2 to DC/AC/others in v3.
If you'd like to see our 'extras only' from v1 and not the actual stories you can grab it from here:
http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/index.php?dlid=5811
It's only 10mb and shouldn't be hard on your system. I'm sure you'll find some more mistakes so fell free to fire off any corrections you see needing to be done. The entire collection can be found in the main Quality folder at the bottom of the page.
Phabox is the man driving the bus for the project and I'm doing all the graphic design and some editing when things need to fit, etc. You know how that works. We would LOVE to include your opinions on artists, etc. in the project. How about we contact you via email or Private Messages behind the scenes so we can work on getting you single files of things when we've got them ready for you.
If you were Ok with the idea I'll ask Phabox (a wonderful guy in England) to contact you.
Thanks again for your interest in the site and your willingness to help set the record straight on Phantom Lady artists,
-Yoc
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No single download is going to overload my computer, Yoc,
but downloading 20 different issues is going to overload ME. What I was asking was if you have all of the Fox stories in one file that I can download at one time? If so, I can review them at my "leisure" and PM you with my findings.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Hi Jim,
Right, I got that. We haven't gotten to that point yet but I can see it happening in the near future.
I'll let you know when I've got it sorted and send you a link.
But I'm sure Phabox (Nigel) would love to pick your mind on Baker and the era, etc in general if you had some time.
-Yoc
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By all means, Yoc,
give Nigel my email address and/or phone number. If you don't have either (or both), send me a PM and I'll send them to you. I'm cranking away on my magazine (and would DEARLY love to get back to the big Fiction House project for the GCD that I've been working on with Hames and Henry. So there aren't a lot of spare hours, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to talk comics with Nigel. We just have to be realistic.
There, I got my five minutes in before bed that I promised myself. Ciao.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Still waiting for the 22 to show. On a related note, I did get a copy of Ajax Phantom Lady 2 with the logo stripped. So look for an upgrade from fiche to paper on that one very soon.
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And you can officially remove 22 from the needed list! ;D
Yoc, you'll be happy to know the registration is much better on this one than the 19. And saddened to know that 'better' isn't 'good'. (It looks like only one plate, on not all the pages, this time. :-\ ) Still, progress is progress.
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That's great news Eric - and as always I'm happy to do my part with the edits whenever you are ready to send them.
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Here is the updated list of Fox PL stories we still need to complete the Fox volume of the Phantom Lady Archives...
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And an updated version of Phantom Lady 14 is now uploading to the FTP. The original splash page has been restored and the heavily modified AC comics version has been removed; I've also added a better cover scan and revised the story order since at least two independent sources tell me that's how the original issue was. Huge thanks to Yoc and JVJ on this one; and of course Marble River for the original scan. If anybody knows how to get in touch with Marble River and finds out they have an issue with the changes please let us know. I wouldn't call this an urgent to grab item if you already have the book; but every little improvement we can make is nice.
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Hi OtherEric,
I have no problem with the updates. Thanks for finding the missing pieces.
Marble River
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Glad to hear it. And thank you for all of your scans!
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Holy Cats!
It's M.R. himself!!
A big big welcome to one of the greats gang. You should have seen his signature on the splash pages of many a fine scan.
Welcome M.R. I hope you'll enjoy the scans here and join in on the conversations when you have some time. :D
-Yoc
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Hello, Marble River,
Nice to meet you.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Truely the gods walk among us, I Believe a vote of thanks is due M.R. for one of the Police Comics scans we have here to say nothing of loads of other stuff shared over the years.
-Nigel
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Another Marble Mystery solved! ;-) Thanks, Mr. River.
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Hey, glad you could make it M.R. Sure nice to have "talked" to you again yesterday. Please make yourself at home! It's really a great bunch here at GAC.
Might I suggest at some point for you to let everyone know about your upcoming project with Greg yourself, and don't be shy about your own participation in the project!
--Loftypilot Dan
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Yoc,
I finished the PL19_10 page. You'll find it in the JVJ/PL folder. Hope it meets your needs.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Hey, thanks Jim, I certainly appreciate your help.
Oh, you uploaded the P.S. file - that's a nice idea - gives me a chance to explore your settings, etc.
I've been trying some of your suggestions on Blazing Comics #1. It's not going to look as nice and clean as your example on the ftp or even 'normal' but it will be easier to read than the original which appears to have been used as a coffee coaster at a bus terminal for a week. I don't have the time to invest to do a complete clean-up like yours with all the other jobs on the go. PL19 is a big enough challenge as it is. I didn't want to start doing another restore like that at the same time.
;) :D
Stay tuned for that,
-Yoc
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Water stained or not it is a great book. I think it got wet and the staple stained the area. This is the kind of book I am accustomed to. The reason I have as many GA books as I do is my lack of concern for condition. Given the choice of paying 5 for a fair book or 100 for a fine I have to choose the fair. Lots of coverless too.
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Hi Jim,
Please don't mistake my comment on the condition of the book as any slight on you. I admire your dedication to the cause while not spending a fortune on it at the same time. Both you and Jim are to be commended for your thrifty approach to collecting these books. I was only commenting on how much work would be needed to have it looking 100% new again. :)
I should have the edit for it done at some point today.
Take care,
-Yoc
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No offense taken, Yoc,
I know what condition most of my books are in, so it's hard to find a reason to object when someone else notices, too. Best of luck on the Blazing.
On the PL19 page, I flattened the PS file before uploading it as it was pretty large (44 Mbytes), but since you expressed an interest, I'm currently in the process of uploading the layered file so you can see what I've done (if you want to make the effort). Just so you know, I made some "patterns" in PS to replicate some of the colors (flesh red), (light blue), (purple), etc. and used the patterns to fill in large areas that needed those colors. I didn't do an exceptionally fine job on all of them, but they did speed up the process. Sadly, what worked for this page of this comic probably wouldn't look even this good on another page of the same comic.
The whole massive PS file for page 10 is there now. Let me know what you think of my approach, Yoc.
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Hey, glad you could make it M.R. Sure nice to have "talked" to you again yesterday. Please make yourself at home! It's really a great bunch here at GAC.
Might I suggest at some point for you to let everyone know about your upcoming project with Greg yourself, and don't be shy about your own participation in the project!
--Loftypilot Dan
Thanks LP, and thanks for sending me to GAC. It looks like a real nice project. Glad to see all of the PD stuff being made available. The project you mentioned is a book by Greg Sadowski (who did the Bernie Krigstein book for Fantagraphics) to which I contributed a bunch of new (but Not Fresh) scans. It's at the printer now and should be out this February. The title is: Supermen: The First Wave of Comic Book Heroes, 1936-1941, published by Fantagraphics. Everyone should buy 5 or 6 copies :) That's the last plug I'll make, and thanks to all who have enjoyed MR scans over the years. I started posting Golden Age scans in 1998, so it's been 10 years!
See you in the funny papers,
MR
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Thanks for the PSD file Jim, I'm getting it now.
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Hi MR, I bought that Krigstein book last summer. It was a fun read. I like the sound of the latest book. I'll keep an eye open for it.
Thanks for 10yrs of golden age goodies - I hope you'll find scans here to enjoy as well.
-Yoc
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I've got several scans in that book, too, MR. Greg and Bud Plant and I spent a weekend choosing material and making scans. Lots of fun. I wanted to see more obscure samples in the finished project, but, alas, my tastes don't seem to resonate with many other people. Sigh...
Hope you can find something new in the PL psd file, Yoc.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Yoc,
I was showing Bud Plant the GAC site last night and also showed himthe one page of PL that I cleaned up. He says he has all but two issues of PL and would make them available for scans if it would help the project. He also says he has all of the All-Top PLs. Tell me which issues you need (or need better-printed examples of) and I'll ask him to bring them when he comes down next month.
Hey, miracles DO happen.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Yoc,
I was showing Bud Plant the GAC site last night and also showed himthe one page of PL that I cleaned up. He says he has all but two issues of PL and would make them available for scans if it would help the project. He also says he has all of the All-Top PLs. Tell me which issues you need (or need better-printed examples of) and I'll ask him to bring them when he comes down next month.
Hey, miracles DO happen.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
May Bud Plant find blessings by the hoary hosts of Hoggath! ;D
B.
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Yoc,
I was showing Bud Plant the GAC site last night and also showed himthe one page of PL that I cleaned up. He says he has all but two issues of PL and would make them available for scans if it would help the project. He also says he has all of the All-Top PLs. Tell me which issues you need (or need better-printed examples of) and I'll ask him to bring them when he comes down next month.
Hey, miracles DO happen.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
Any chance he has the missing Yellowjackets we need? #1 and TNT. Would be an even greater day for the GCD.
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Yoc,
I was showing Bud Plant the GAC site last night and also showed himthe one page of PL that I cleaned up. He says he has all but two issues of PL and would make them available for scans if it would help the project. He also says he has all of the All-Top PLs. Tell me which issues you need (or need better-printed examples of) and I'll ask him to bring them when he comes down next month.
Hey, miracles DO happen.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
A "Carlson" book not on your list is Sharp Comics another oddity I would love to have scanned. We need Green Giant, Colossus and Wham any chance he might have those super rare gems. Probably would not want to risk them to scanning as even in poor shape they would be worth a fortune.
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Wow, Jim, PLEASE thank Bud for his Very Generous offering! I'll contact you in a PM with more.
Narf, please let's not chase Bud off with even more requests.
You are talking about very, VERY expensive books now. Green Giant (VF copy sold for $8,500 on Heritage) and Colossus (FN sold for $1,700 on H.) are among the more rare comics going!
For now lets see if we can finish the missing Phantom Lady books before we going asking Bud for anything else, Ok?
Thanks,
-Yoc
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I don't think we'll find any really weird, obscure title with Bud, but you never know. He's more interested in Fiction House, Timely, Quality, etc. Whenever he visits, he takes home four boxes from my collection and goes through each comic to see if he really wants it. Maybe when/if he gets moving with GAC, he won't need me so much. But, then he's also been VERY generous to loan me each title of Fiction House so that I can do the GCD project with Hames and Henry, so I'll still need him. We go back a LONG way (like to 1967 or so). Good guy and very helpful with many of my research projects.
BUT, his collection is much more mainstream than mine - which makes them very complementary.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Sounds like another nice guy Jim. The hobby has more of those than average.
I've sent Phabox your offer. He should be sending you an email on it and some of the info he's collected on Victor Fox as well. He'll be using your jim@jvjpubs.com address.
Thanks again Jim and Bob!
-Yoc
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I really did not expect Bud to have them, but thought if he might have a coverless or such it could get scanned. I think those prices for such rare books is really low. Then again it is supply and demand. There are not many of them but not as many hunting them. We recognize the joy of the obscure but everyone does not. I have fiche copies if someone wants to scan them since Rolster dissappeared. I tried several different scanners with no luck.
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I really did not expect Bud to have them, but thought if he might have a coverless or such it could get scanned. I think those prices for such rare books is really low. Then again it is supply and demand. There are not many of them but not as many hunting them. We recognize the joy of the obscure but everyone does not. I have fiche copies if someone wants to scan them since Rolster dissappeared. I tried several different scanners with no luck.
Don't know if he does or doesn't, but I can ask him until after Christmas. He was on his way South to visit his girlfriend's family for Christmas. I'll check back with him later.
As for fiche, why not send one sample fiche issue back with my books and I'll see what I can accomplish. Always enjoy a challenge.
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Sounds like another nice guy Jim. The hobby has more of those than average.
I've sent Phabox your offer. He should be sending you an email on it and some of the info he's collected on Victor Fox as well. He'll be using your jim@jvjpubs.com address.
Thanks again Jim and Bob!
-Yoc
Bud is, indeed, one of the Best. I'll look forward to hearing for Phabox. As I told narf, there's no big rush as Bud won't be back home for a week or so. That email is okay.
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Sure, no hurry Jim. It's just immensely exciting to have a chance at perhaps pulling together even more for our project!
Hey Narf,
GAC member Ontology is another of the really good Fiche Scanners and even our Loftypilot has been known to knock them out at a high altitude of legibility. In fact I've got several of his raw fiche scan waiting on me to edit and share... one day! See what Ont says but if you PM Lofty let me know as he tends to not check here often but I do know how to get his attention to come look.
-Yoc
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I just sent Nigel some comments on his Victor Fox overview, Yoc.
I'm always a bit nervous when I go into the historical aspects of comics with someone because I don't always come across gently. A fact is a fact and I tend to just state them and move on. It's all meant to be for the best, but I fear I've offended a few people with my brusqueness over the years. Hope Nigel is not one of them.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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I just sent Nigel some comments on his Victor Fox overview, Yoc.
I'm always a bit nervous when I go into the historical aspects of comics with someone because I don't always come across gently. A fact is a fact and I tend to just state them and move on. It's all meant to be for the best, but I fear I've offended a few people with my brusqueness over the years. Hope Nigel is not one of them.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
Kindred souls Jim. I have that same problem in a big way. I am a pragmatist who believes that facts are facts and what is is. I am short and bald why should I get upset if someone mentions that I am short and bald. Your age is your age your size is your size, etc. I know that is not the area you are talking about but the same thing applies to facts in general. I often say that it is nearly impossible to offend me. Never worry about hurting my feelings in what you say. The truth will set you free.
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Hi Jim,
I wouldn't worry about Phabox. He's a big boy and I know we all want the same thing.
It's a darn shame finding concrete facts on Fox is such a bugger. From all I've read on the man he sounds like the kind of guy I wouldn't trust to tell me the actual time but I'd love to read more about the life he lived, the times he lived in, and the people he worked with.
-Yoc
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I'll send you to the same site I recommended to Nigel, Yoc.
http://www.comicartville.com/victorfox.htm
Jon Berk has learned a WHOLE lot about him. Check it out.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Hi Jim,
Yep, been to there - it's a GREAT site too btw!
It's a shame it's so long between updates.
I really loved the Archer St. John, Doug Wildey and rare Eisner features.
Adding it to the Reference Links thread.
-Yoc
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Hi Jim, Yoc, and everyone else, just looked over Jim's feedback and I am battered but unbroken !
If anything seems to be that I got more right then wrong although my wording may not have made that as clear as it should have done.
Sadly I am not fuctioning at 100% capacity in the grey matter department as I suffered some mild brain damage at birth and to make things even worse a couple of decades back I went through a car windscreen/shield head first which put me out of action for about three months and sent a few more of my remaining brain cells into oblivion :(.
On a bad day I still have trouble remembering my own name !
So forgive me if I don't always get my fact straight but I enjoy a challenge and believe working on these projects is good therapy for me which is my main reason for doing these things.
If I can provide some entertainment and enlightenment at the same time then thats a bonus.
-Nigel
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Well Nigel based on several posts I would say that even with fewer brain cells you are operating "smarter than the average bear."
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Yoc, phabox,
I was hoping to pick up the Phantom Lady's for you, but Bud was out of town for the weekend and didn't get my message in time to bring them with him. He has promised to get whatever he has of your wants to me so that I can scan (of take digital photographs of) them for you. He's concerned about conditions and I hope to get the best pics I can, but I have to respect his wishes and be extremely careful. I'll do the best I can, but it may turn out not to feasible without damaging the books, and that I won't do.
Keep your fingers crossed.
ps. Yoc, I've forgotten where you keep this info, but Bud gave me three comics for a "Christmas Present", so please add these to the list of what I have:
Four Color #72 - Raggedy Ann
Wonderworld #11 (coverless and cfm)
Real Life Comics #5.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Thanks for the update Jim.
I've updated your offering list.
-Yoc
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Hi, Yoc,
I just returned from my one day at WonderCon and finally tied up with Bud. I have in my possession PLs #s 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21
I'll double-check what needs to be scanned and TRY to get to them this weekend. No promises.
I'll also have an update for the JVJ collection page soon. Lots of cool, coverless GA comics. I haven't even looked at them yet. Must run. Goodies await...
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Wow! That's fantastic Jim!!
Please contact me with a Private Message and we can figure this out between us Ok?
Just hit the little word balloon under my Monkey avatar to send one.
#20 and 21 will be of most help. The page with the missing list is at the start of this topic.
http://goldenagecomics.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,855.0.html
Thanks again for helping!
-Yoc the excited
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14: Need better IFC (We have IW reprint)
15: Need IFC (We have IW reprint)
18: We need the whole book, Yoc. Not sure why you say we don't.
19: Need scans if the art is on-register, we have my flawed copy otherwise
20: Need the whole book
21: Need the whole book, all we have is fiche.
We already have 13, 16, and a reprint of 23 on the site. And Yoc has my scans of 22 in the editing stage. Plus a full run of the All-Tops. So all we'll be missing is 17 and the first page of the first story in 23; not bad at all for such a high demand run.
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Hi Eric,
Well, we do have a colour reprint of 'Ghost Galleons' and a b&w one of 'Fat Connoisseur' from PL18.
New scans of 'Fat' would be great but I don't want to ask for a TON of work from Jim either.
Whatever he's willing and able to do I'll be happy with!
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Just got a request from someone named Denys Howard regarding credits for Phantom Lady #22. Here is my response:
Hi, Denys,
I have acquired a scan of the PL #22. Here are my thoughts:
Cover -I don't see any Baker. Much more likely to be Kamen & Iger Shop than Baker.
1st PL story: probably Kamen and Iger Shop.
2nd PL story: looks like Baker and it's SUPPOSED to, BUT it's all swipes. One of the major "tells" is the fact that most of the heads are too small for the bodies and the overall caliber of the artwork (once you can draw your eyes away from the swipes) is mediocre - at best. Notice also how the "Baker" fades in and out and is practically non-existent by the time you get to the last page.
The Crime of Roger Caseman - most likely John Forte pencils, Iger Shop inks.
Joe Noon - Killer: Vern Henkel (signed)
Hope that helps.
Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Thanks for the credits Jim!
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Just a reminder -
We still are looking for Phantom Lady #17 - The Soda Mint Killer story. If anyone has a copy to scan we would very much appreciate the help.
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I think I already shared with you my very low grade photo off eBay of the first two pages. But the only real use of that that I can imagine is that if we find a coverless copy we'll have at least something to fill in as the IFC/ first page.
Also, if by some miracle somebody does have a copy of the issue I think we could really use the full book; all we have is a reprint of the 2nd story.
While we're wishing, I don't think we have the IFC/ first page for issue 23 yet, either.
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All very true Eric.
The first priority is to get ANY copy of each story, reprint, fiche even a photocopy would do in a pinch.
After that getting good clean scans like you and Jim have provided would be a real dream come true!
We'd just like to have PL's entire Fox career available in one collection for posterity.
I can't thank you, MB, Jim and Bud Plant enough for all the help you've provided. Work continues on the clean-up of PL19 and Nigel is pretty much done his editorial content.
-Yoc
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Hi Gang,
Putting together our ongoing series of 'Phantom Lady Archives' has never been the easiest of tasks.
We ALWAYS seem to have trouble rounding up one elusive story or another. Right now its "The Soda Mint Killer" from Phantom Lady _017 (April 1948) which is holding up completion of Vol. 2 - The Fox Years but last year when we were ready to roll out our first production covering the Quality 'War Years' we had a slightly different problem.
Although we suspected that we may have been short one story we were unsure as comics historians did not seem to agree if our lady actually did appear in Feature Comics 069 and nobody we knew at that time even had a copy of the comic to do a check.
So rather then wait on a story which may not have even existed we decided to bite the bullet and go ahead with presenting it to our waiting web audience who I have to say gave our collection a very warm reception. Thanks Gang!
Since that time a very generous comics collector/historian and publisher Jim Vadeboncoeur, Jr showed up over at the Golden Age Comics site and he just happened to have an issue of this particular comic and even more to the point it DID 'Feature' an appearance of The Phantom Lady! So from July 1943 as scanned by Ontology together with PAPER SCANS of Phantom Lady from Police Comics #7 supplied by freddyfly here are the updated archive pages we proudly present ' The LOST Phantom Lady Story'- Now if only we could 'find' the Soda Mint Killer !
Golden Age Comic link:
http://tinyurl.com/yagycxc
Enjoy!
-Yoc
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Yoc, did we ever find the splash page for the first story in issue #23? I've tried twice to offer people with unslabbed copies on eBay a small fee for a copy, but they haven't followed up. Should I keep looking?
Right now, I think the best hope for a copy of the PL 17 is one of the remaindered Fox Giants; I've asked a couple dealers on that. We do have a VERY poor copy of the IFC of 17 I got off eBay; the only real value on that is it will fill the hole if we can find a coverless 17.
Looking forward to the Fox archive.
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Hi Eric,
Nothing new has been found other than what's in this Quality update.
If we needed it before we still do now so yes, please keep an eye open for those missing items.
Finding someone with a PL17 willing to risk scanning it will take a miracle given it's value and notoriety.
-Yoc
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What's the latest status on this - still missing as of 3/11/2010?
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Still needing "The Soda Mint Killer" from Phantom Lady_017 to complete the set :(
Right now the plan is to move forward with this project regardless and just add this story at a later date should it become available much as we did with the missing/lost story from Volume One covering the Phantom Lady's Quality Comics incarnation.
-Nigel
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just one story missing - that's great :)
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We're also missing the first page of the first story in #23; since we have that from the IW reprint.
We have very low quality copies of the first two pages of "Soda Mint Killer"- somebody posting the issue of eBay posted a fairly large photo of them which we snagged. I figure the major use of that- other than as a teaser- is if we can find a Fox Giant which happens to include PL 17. I have one which reprints PL 19; the catch being the color registration is awful. We actually have access to THREE copies of 19 we're working with; the problem is all of them have some of the worst registration I've ever seen. Which is why the book hasn't been posted yet.
On the plus side, we've got good scans of all the Ajax issues so Volume 3 will be much easier to produce!
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Give us a chance OE we have'nt even put Volume Two to bed yet -lol
Still as you say its a great help having good quality scans of all the PUBLISHED AF stories, there was one later unused story which we only have a black and white scan of but its still better then nothing.
Volume Three should bring the Phantom Lady story right bang up to date as well as maybe providing the answers to a couple of long standing mysteries concerning this character.
-Nigel
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I have a phantom lady 17 complete in pretty good shape if you guys need one.
I'd be willing to send you scans or pictures.
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We just filled in that issue a month or two ago; I think we all forgot this was still here. But THANK YOU for the offer; for a very long time that was probably the single most wanted PD comic to be scanned and we still appreciate your willingness to share!