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Paul Temple

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Andrew999

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Paul Temple
« on: July 03, 2020, 06:31:44 AM »

Always been a fan of Paul Temple - loved the exotic locations - and enjoyed the 60s TV series with Francis 'Captain Scarlet' Matthews - though I must admit I saw an episode recently and it felt a bit slow.

Great to see a new edition of Temple strips published in Germany this month:

https://downthetubes.net/?p=119245

In colour, no less.

Cultural historian Steve Holland has written extensively and gained permission to reproduce some strips here:

https://bearalley.blogspot.com/search/label/Paul%20Temple

I'd love to see Paul Temple re-imagined for a new century in graphic, movie or TV form - what do others think?
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The Australian Panther

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2020, 07:35:11 AM »

Thank you!
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paw broon

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2020, 09:29:57 AM »

As a huge Paul Temple fan, I'd prefer to have him stay where he was.  Although I have the tv episodes, I'm not such a big fan of those stories. The movies are a different thing altogether and I watch them regularly. As for the newspaper strips, Boutje has a fair few on site. And there are a couple of Sindall compilations taken from the Dutch papers. Let me know if you fancy them.
A bit off-topic, alongside my 4 Temple movies, I have the only Toff movie that was made.  They're together mainly 'cos John Bentley played both Temple and The Toff.
I suppose it'd be a bit like bringing back an updated Jason King, I don't think it would work. Unless it was set in that long gone past world of fast cars, gangsters, classy women, cocktails, night clubs, bombs, poison, traps and outrageous plot twists. 
The very faithful remakes of the missing radio shows are great examples of doing it right. I would encourage all and sundry to try them. 
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2020, 01:15:18 PM »

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I suppose it'd be a bit like bringing back an updated Jason King, I don't think it would work. Unless it was set in that long gone past world of fast cars, gangsters, classy women, cocktails, night clubs, bombs, poison, traps and outrageous plot twists.


I agree with Paw that the only way to bring back these kinds of series is to do them period. They don't make sense in the modern 2020 world. I have always thought the same about Simon Templar, if you do the Saint period, it can work. Otherwise no.
There is currently a revived Perry Mason TV, which is sold as, ' the way Earle Stanley Gardner originally wrote the character'. If it live up to that, it will be good. but I dread finding out that the stories have been updated to a WOKE sensibility.       
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 03:08:57 AM »

I listened to Paul Temple radio serials back in the 1980s when a local public radio station broadcast them. I liked them even though they seemed dated and the mysteries became so convoluted that by the time the last episode came around I'd forgotten who half the characters were. I read the newspaper strips in The Menomonee Falls Gazette. They were printed a week at a time, which made the stories easier to follow. John McNamara's artwork was like the stories, dated but enjoyable. By the way, I keep seeing references to Alfred Sindall having drawn the strip, but I've never seen a sample. Anybody have one?

I've been watching Roger Moore Saint reruns lately. They're fun and stand up okay except that the women fall for Simon with almost ridiculous speed. When I saw them as a youth I wasn't familiar with the concept of process photography. Now I see the series' matte work is pretty cheesy. In several "location" shots the background is visible through Simon's collar. But what the heck, it permitted ST to travel the world on a shoestring production budget.

One of the delights of staying home is getting to see tons of Raymond Burr Perry Mason's. The mysteries are about 50/50 fair to the viewer, though unfortunately chunks of each episode have been cut out to make room for commercials for Medicare Advantage Plans, prescription drugs, and End-of-Life Insurance. Hard to believe that in 1957 an hour show boasted a full 52 minutes of content. I'd be surprised if they now run even 45 minutes. It's fun spotting old-time character actors as well as future stars. Among the latter are Burt Reynolds, Robert Redford, George Takei, and a scummy Leonard Nimoy.

Looking back at these shows it's obvious that it'd be impossible to re-invent them as present-day series without making huge changes. Perry Mason is a prime example. Watch that show and you'll be struck by how fundamentally life has been altered by cell phones, near-universal surveillance, and advanced forensic science. Consider how many episodes hinge on missed or faked phone calls; torn-out newspaper files, forged or kited checks, stolen wills, and missing film negatives. Their best forensic evidence is fingerprints and blood types. DNA evidence would have scuttled a dozen patrimony storylines in their first draft. Even motives have changed. It's surprising how many episodes concern shenanigans undertaken because someone's spouse won't "give them a divorce."

Earle Stanley Gardner was involved in the Burr Mason series and liked how it turned out. I'm not sure that his formula, half-an-hour of people acting suspicious followed by a half-hour courtroom scene, would go over today even if done "in period." I haven't seen the new series but the promos imply Perry does more detective work than courtroom acrobatics.

I'd say much the same thing about The Saint. His book version was solidly grounded in the world of the 1930s and 1940s. Even "big" crime was small-time: gangsters, crooked officials, smugglers. Today the stakes must be much higher to grab an audience. The old Simon doesn't work well in a bloodthirsty world of sprawling international criminal conspiracies. His was more of a personal crusade against "personalized" crooks. And face it, after decades of suave, clever crimefighters like James Bond and his descendants, simply turning the tables on the Big Boss is old hat.

I'd say let the old series rest and invent new ones. Of course that violates the Front Office's directive only to make properties with a proven track record, even if so doing distorts the original character so much that he/she might as well be a new character who happens to bear the same name.
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Andrew999

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Re: Paul Temple
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2020, 04:30:18 AM »

Came across this interesting article today on Italian adaptations of Durbridge's non-Temple work:

https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=https://www.giornalepop.it/tag/paul-temple/&prev=search&pto=aue

When I've got time, I'm going to try to track some of these down.
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paw broon

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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2020, 12:58:41 PM »

Thanks for the link.  It might actually be easier to read the article in Italian, so I'll do that.  But those lovely striscie!!! I've been going on, boring all who might be the slightest bit interested, for years about all those different comics formats.  Also interesting as there has been that recent off-site find of the fotoromans.
Those little single tier landscape comics are great and they appeared in big numbers in other countries apart from Italy, particularly, Spain and The Netherlands.  There are also examples in German but I'm not sure if they're recent reprints of Dutch titles or of earlier German reprints.  Here in the U.K., there were childrens' versions of the same format, with Enid Blyton licensed material and titles such as "The Twins"series.
Apologies for going off-topic and hi-jacking the theme.
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Andrew999

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2020, 06:07:55 PM »

You might find this fun - particularly as you go further down the page - Zio Boris is a favourite of mine - not entirely dissimilar to my own family:

https://www.giornalepop.it/strisce-italiane/
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2020, 06:09:57 PM »

Hell, yeah - that's a good resource - thanks Panther!
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2020, 10:56:54 PM »

I believe the closest the US has come to striscie format comics are the notorious hellfire-and-damnation screeds from Jack Chick Publications. They are smaller than the European comics, though. And for the most part much worse drawn.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2020, 12:49:20 AM »

When I was maybe 8 or so years old, so in the late 50's - If I remember correctly - Packets of Kelloggs' Cornflakes always had giveaways in the packets. For a while it was small comics, Disney, which were in colour., Newspaper strip wide and one small story.I would imagine this was also done in the US. Wish I'd kept them, might be worth something now. Other times it was plastic figures, Soldiers or Cowboys and Indians. For some reason I loved collecting those!
Go figure!   
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fotoromans
  Currently, John Byrne has been been splicing together stills of the original Star Trek series and making new stories with them.
Star Trek New Visions.
Just found this site, which has some of the covers.
John Byrne warrants his own fan fiction? Who knew?
http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50250&PN=1&totPosts=107&FID=11&PR=3

Cheers!
   
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Andrew999

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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2020, 07:42:02 AM »

Oh,wow, that's a real find - as a bit of a Trekkie, I must track some of those down. I used to do a similar thing as a kid - cut out panels from comics (I know, I was stupid), rearrange them and stick them in a scrapbook with my own story line underneath - mostly from TV21 comic (Gerry Anderson/Thunderbirds)

On a similar theme of recycling - have you ever seen this:

https://cloudfour.com/thinks/22-panels-that-always-work-wally-woods-legendary-productivity-hack/

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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2020, 09:25:39 AM »

Yeah, I'm well aware of Wally Wood's cheat sheet.
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ComicMike

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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2020, 12:32:05 PM »

In the 50s and 60s, 'Paul Temple' was famous in Germany due to several radio play series. These radio plays are wonderfully old-fashioned and I love them very much and there are still a lot of fans today. The ratings at that time were 80 - 90% !!

NWDR ect., were the radio stations. The first radio play from 1949 has been lost, there is no copy.  :(

The speakers were very well-known actors in Germany.


Paul Temple radio play series in Germany:

Paul Temple and the Gregory affair
NWDR 1949, 10 parts, with Annemarie Cordes, Ren
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Andrew999

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« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2020, 05:34:08 PM »

Thanks for the heads-up on the German productions!

Loads of English-language radio productions to enjoy too as you settle down with your brandy and slippers late at night:

http://www.radioechoes.com/?page=series&genre=OTR-Detective&series=The%20Adventures%20Of%20Paul%20Temple

Und auf deutsch:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paul+temple+deutsch

« Last Edit: August 08, 2020, 05:39:01 PM by Andrew999 »
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ComicMike

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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2020, 09:05:46 AM »

Thanks for the radio play tips. Unfortunately, the older I get, the more I prefer sherry to brandy.  ;D ;D
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