[Drusilla lives!]

I happened across a couple of web articles on various pulps from the 1920s that got me thinking... does anyone know of a website similar to GAC that offers PD pulps?  For that matter, is there such a thing, that is, whole pulps (or at least good portions of pulps), that are in the PD?  Has anyone here considered adding pulps to GAC?... And considering how difficult it is to identify PD comic book works, would the material that went into the pulps (both text and illustrations) be less or more difficult to identify as to its PD status?  It's an obviously easy call with franchise characters like Conan, The Shadow and Doc Savage... and with the work of some of the better known illustrators. 

I can't help thinking that there's a whole lot of interesting material that's facing the prospects of being lost to the sands of time. 

[narfstar]

There have been some pulp sites many closed down because they carried more than just PD. New owner Janus has wanted to expand the site but we do not know his full intentions and he has not been back this weekend to find out. I mentioned once before that he would need another moderator for such an endeavor.

[boox909]

There have been some pulp sites many closed down because they carried more than just PD. New owner Janus has wanted to expand the site but we do not know his full intentions and he has not been back this weekend to find out. I mentioned once before that he would need another moderator for such an endeavor.

Narf, I do not see how the site can be expanded presently. The only positive thing coming from the tight download limits on newbies is the realization that so many of them simply take and give nothing back.

Most of them only post to complain about not being able to get their free downloads "I can't download, but golly whiz I do love the site, can I get my 20th reset of the day now?". If they had donated files or monetarily to the site long ago they would not even be under the limits they face now. My point -- to host pulps, servers might have to be changed again to obtain enough space for doing so -- is anyone actually expecting newbies to help out on server costs if they can get everything for free?

My hope is that Janus tightens up the newbie download limits even more and shifts this site towards more of a "pay to play" situation. Server costs have to be supported. The JVJ project has to be supported (a project I have given little toward due to my own petty personal differences with Jim -- I plan to rectify this situation soon). Some Newbies are claiming that they will donate the moment that option is available, but I wonder if they will -- I trust that Janus will keep a tally.

B. 
burnt out on all of the newbie complaining...

[narfstar]

And you think your burnt out on the newbies when I am the only able to reset them    I am more upset that Janus has not been around yet this weekend to explain his scheme of things. My guess he plans on tying to increase traffic to garner some add revenue which is fine by me.

[boox909]

And you think your burnt out on the newbies when I am the only able to reset them    I am more upset that Janus has not been around yet this weekend to explain his scheme of things. My guess he plans on tying to increase traffic to garner some add revenue which is fine by me.

I wish that I could actually help you with that. You do have my support though. 

B.

[Astaldo711]

I've been here waiting in the wings to help you out, Narf!

[bchat]

And you think your burnt out on the newbies when I am the only able to reset them    I am more upset that Janus has not been around yet this weekend to explain his scheme of things. My guess he plans on tying to increase traffic to garner some add revenue which is fine by me.

You deserve a raise for all you've done for this site.  This place would have fallen apart without you and Yoc (when he was still here).

[JVJ]

...due to my own petty personal differences with Jim -- I plan to rectify this situation soon).

B. 
burnt out on all of the newbie complaining...

Gosh, that's the first I knew we even HAD differences, boox...

Peace, Jim (|:{>

[narfstar]

Then I declare the differences already rectified and peace on earth. This site is great for having everyone get along and it looks like all is well.

[Drusilla lives!]

Gee, I hope I'm not considered one of those troublesome newbies.   

But seriously, I haven't noticed any problems downloading scans, but then I haven't downloaded anything in awhile.  Actually, I've found (at least in my own case) that at a certain point I started to download less and less titles... now I find myself only downloading comics from GAC that I need for research purposes. 

That's why I think adding a pulp section wouldn't matter all that much (with regard to server loading) in the long run, since in the long run the real problem is the success of the site.  As time progresses the site will only have more and more members regardless of whether there are pulps posted here... in this case it's demand for the resources, not how many you have to offer.  I mean, what happens when you guys hit 40K members, if you have problems with just 8K or so?  Regarding the site as it is, perhaps a compromise solution would be best in light of its long term possible growth prospects.  Limit newbies to a fixed number of downloads a month and raise that download number as they grow their relationship with the site.  But before doing that, at least make sure those who are downloading comics are indeed members... I'm not sure, but I think there were times when I hadn't been here in a while (all related cookies cleared) and I was able to download comics without signing in, that should change.

As far as paying for access, in general I think it's a bad idea... but in light of the fact that eventually implementing some sort of download limit on all users might become necessary, perhaps a one time "lifetime" membership fee should be paid by those who wish to have unlimited downloads.  Particularly for those who use the site for serious research and comic scholarship... other types of scholarly societies (mathematical, scientific, etc...) have such lifetime memberships, why not one devoted to comic related research and scholarship.  Which I'm assuming this sites mission will morph into, eventually, if it's not already.

Of course people like JVJ would (and should) be exempt... he's already a lifetime member of GAC by any measure IMO. 

[darwination]

Get pulps here!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pulpscans

This group has been around for a few years now and is the main place on the net that pulps are shared.  Non-PD pulps are not shared if there is an objection from the rights holder, but that hasn't kept us from sharing over 1,000 pulps so far.  Pulp lovers, come on down!

[Drusilla lives!]

GA pulps AND comics, available for download on the net when needed... now I'm in pop culture research heaven! 

Thanks for the link darwination.

[Astaldo711]

Looks pretty neat. I've joined and just waiting to be accepted. Thanks!

[darwination]

I'll also go ahead and post a link to this group, sort of a sister-group to pulpscans.  A lot of non-pulp vintage magazines get shared here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/magazinearchive

I try and make a weekly post of magazine scans there, and this group also welcomes more readers and scanners.  I'd love to see what has happened with comic scans spread to many of the other worthy publications out there...

P.S. the moderators for these groups usually will let new members in every day or so, so you might have to wait a bit to get in.

[narfstar]

Thanks Darwin no need for us to duplicate what is already done well elsewhere

[boox909]

GA pulps AND comics, available for download on the net when needed... now I'm in pop culture research heaven! 

Thanks for the link darwination.

I'm a buttnugget, Drusilla  -- I am a member of that group and did not even think to share the link. I got too much going on...must slow it mentally.

Perhaps we need a links section on GAC so that people know the richness of what is available?

B.

[bchat]

Thanks Darwin no need for us to duplicate what is already done well elsewhere

Yeah, but how difficult would it be for anyone to get to those files if Yahoo were to decide to shutdown all their Groups like they did with Geocities?  When it comes to computers & the internet, duplication is what keeps things available.

[boox909]

Thanks Darwin no need for us to duplicate what is already done well elsewhere

Yeah, but how difficult would it be for anyone to get to those files if Yahoo were to decide to shutdown all their Groups like they did with Geocities?  When it comes to computers & the internet, duplication is what keeps things available.

The guys that run those particular yahoogroups are not dopes so I bet that they have a system that works outside of Yahoo -- remember, the material isn't hosted on Yahoo anyway. I'd rather avoid the potential ill will that "borrowing" their gig could bring, considering that a number of them contribute scans here.

B.

[bchat]

The guys that run those particular yahoogroups are not dopes so I bet that they have a system that works outside of Yahoo -- remember, the material isn't hosted on Yahoo anyway. I'd rather avoid the potential ill will that "borrowing" their gig could bring, considering that a number of them contribute scans here.

B.

I didn't mean to imply that the members there were "dopes" ... I'm sure they are smarter than that (whoever "they" are). 

I wasn't aware of how the files were being shared but stand by the idea that a "back-up plan" is needed with anything done on the internet, in as much as there should be a way for members to keep in touch IF Yahoo were to ever drop their Groups (which could happen at the drop of a hat).

I agree with you that "borrowing" files from that site may cause unwanted ill will if done without permission and, honestly, see no need to "compete" with another site that focuses on something that isn't comics.  I would much rather prefer to see a "let's work together" attitude.  This site should draw the line somewhere or the next thing you know we'll be hosting files for LIFE magazine & old TV Guides just because they might have some comic book-like artwork in them.

[boox909]

The guys that run those particular yahoogroups are not dopes so I bet that they have a system that works outside of Yahoo -- remember, the material isn't hosted on Yahoo anyway. I'd rather avoid the potential ill will that "borrowing" their gig could bring, considering that a number of them contribute scans here.

B.

I didn't mean to imply that the members there were "dopes" ... I'm sure they are smarter than that (whoever "they" are). 

I wasn't aware of how the files were being shared but stand by the idea that a "back-up plan" is needed with anything done on the internet, in as much as there should be a way for members to keep in touch IF Yahoo were to ever drop their Groups (which could happen at the drop of a hat).

I agree with you that "borrowing" files from that site may cause unwanted ill will if done without permission and, honestly, see no need to "compete" with another site that focuses on something that isn't comics.  I would much rather prefer to see a "let's work together" attitude.  This site should draw the line somewhere or the next thing you know we'll be hosting files for LIFE magazine & old TV Guides just because they might have some comic book-like artwork in them.

Bchat,   

I know you didn't imply any "dopiness" (and I am shocked that "dopiness" is even a word) about "they"  (being a member of that group, I actually know who "they" are, but I did not imply that you did -- even though I am sure that you are smart enough to know this already); you have my permission to be overly sensitive to my replies to you, who am I to rob you of such a pleasure. 

As for the rest of your reply, I agree, even though I would wager that something along those lines is so far off (unless we want poor Narf to lose his mind) for now. 

B. 

[narfstar]

Mind? What mind? I used to have a mind. I think?

[boox909]

Mind? What mind? I used to have a mind. I think?

I really hope that Janus shows up and appoints some additional help for you. This site is so much for one person to have to oversee. 

[bakerman3]

Are the scans in that Yahoo pulp group page-by-page or are they posted as cbr files?