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Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas

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The Australian Panther

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Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« on: December 23, 2024, 05:57:12 AM »

When we were looking at the British Girl's papers, I remembered that they regularly do Christmas Specials.
So here are the ones we have on CB+.

Enjoy and please relax, celebrate the ending of another 365 days, spend time with  your loved ones and have a great and enjoyable Christmas. 

Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=74289

Girls' Crystal 740 - The Secret of the Christmas Cake
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=29429

and
Santa's Tinker Tots 1
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=26537

and if you'd rather just sit by the fire and listen,
The Whistler 499 - Christmas Gift
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=53311

cheers!
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2024, 08:56:57 AM »

Schoolgirl Picture Library #40 - Christmas in the Highlands

Decorate a Scottish castle in real English style? Is that allowed?  ;)

Good art, nice story.
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2024, 11:57:42 PM »

Hi Panther

I think we did the Highlands one a couple of years ago, though not everyone would have seen it then.  It’s distinctive enough that I remembered it. 

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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2024, 02:09:40 AM »


Hi Panther

I think we did the Highlands one a couple of years ago, though not everyone would have seen it then.  It’s distinctive enough that I remembered it. 

Cheers

QQ


Yes, we did that one a couple years ago.  Maybe you can replace that one with another Christmas  story.  We already did "Billy Bunter's Christmas", as well.  Too bad.  I LOVE the artwork on the latter.
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2024, 05:06:43 AM »

QQ said,

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I think we did the Highlands one a couple of years ago, though not everyone would have seen it then.  It’s distinctive enough that I remembered it. 


I have replaced it with
"Girls' Crystal 740 - The Secret of the Christmas Cake"

This is an older paper, so more of a read, which is why I was hesitant about it.

My problem with Christmas selections is that while there are many Christmas books, they are not all in the Christmas section and those that are have pretty much all been selected,
Well, we now have Lyon's current uploads for next year.
And I have selected 4 this time in any case.
Merry Christmas! 
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2024, 07:40:08 AM »

Yeah, we read SPL #40 two years ago.

I've updated the list of reading selections and removed the second SPL #40 and added GC #740, which has me wondering, I think this is the second Story Paper the group has read, so should I create a subcategory for them since they're not comic books? Current subcategories are Scanlations, Comic Compilations, Newspaper strips, Radio Shows, & TV Shows.

The next few days are going to be busy for some reason  ;) so I won't get a chance to read anything until after Christmas! Hope you all have a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays, and that those of you with illnesses get better soon!  ;D
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2024, 12:24:44 PM »

I'm listening to "The Whistler" as I type this. I have to listen through earbuds to be able to make out all the speech but it works. It has the feel of a "film noir" type of tale and I like that a lot. The voice acting was good  although the switch between the dialogue and the narrator suddenly jumping in with direct address was a little jarring. There wasn't really much of a Christmas theme, either. My guess is that it was just called "A Christmas Gift" as it was due to be broadcast around that time. Still, it was a neat little mystery and it's nice to hear that nostalgic style of broadcast.

CB+ has become part of my Christmas tradition. When I think of Christmas Eve I think of a glass of red wine and a read (or a listen, this year!). Thank you to those who made this possible. Merry Christmas to all and a rapid recovery to those who need it.
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2024, 01:53:18 PM »

There are so many adventures of June Gaynor and Noel Raymond, simple, easy reads and this one is nice and Christmasy.
There is an innocence about these tales. I enjoyed this one.  The thought of Christmas cakes has made me hungry, so it'll be mince pies with coffee.  Merry Christmas to you all.
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2024, 12:50:27 AM »

Merry Christmas, everyone!  And a Happy New Year, too! 



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« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2024, 05:18:20 AM »


Merry Christmas, everyone!  And a Happy New Year, too! 



Cute cartoons, Robb. Merry Christmas to you and the rest of the CB+ family. I hope you all have a lovely day.

Cheers

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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2024, 09:38:02 PM »

Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure

This was a very standard Christmas mystery for this series.  The artwork is very good.  The suspense continued fairly long in the story, despite once finding out that The Ferrers were forced to sell their house, it became obvious that The Children would find the jewels, foil the crooks, and save them for their aunt and unclke, to use to keep their old mansion house and property.

I started out wondering why the narrative and dialogue referred to the children as "boys", when the little one was clearly a girl. There are no artist credits listed, but clearly, the artist was a female. Despite being all alone when reading this, I had to laugh out loud when reading the little boy's dialogue, with his strong lisp, that kept reminding me of hearing Mel Blanc's superb "Elmer Fudd"!!! That cartoon image kept taking me out of "Living inside" this story.  But it was a pleasant read nonetheless.

The buildup of clues and unravelling of the "mystery" was likely a bit disappointing for the little Sherlocks among the readers, but this "light mystery" level was pretty much common in this genre.  Of course, as is usual with this title, violence was kept to a minimum, and although there was a policeman among the "Mummers" acting group, who apprehended the crooked couple and their chauffeur, we readers have to believe that they will not likely serve a prison sentence.  Maybe the'll have the arrest record, and be sentenced to a short "House arrest" followed by a short term of public service and probation, with reporting to a parole officer.

The buildup of clues and unravelling of the "mystery" was likely a bit disappointing for the little Sherlocks among the readers, but this "light mystyery" level was pretty much common in this genre.
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2024, 12:54:01 AM »

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Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure

I started out wondering why the narrative and dialogue referred to the children as "boys", when the little one was clearly a girl. There are no artist credits listed, but clearly, the artist was a female. Despite being all alone when reading this, I had to laugh out loud when reading the little boy's dialogue, with his strong lisp, that kept reminding me of hearing Mel Blanc's superb "Elmer Fudd"!!! That cartoon image kept taking me out of "Living inside" this story.  But it was a pleasant read nonetheless.

Hi Robb - The first narration box in the story says that Vera is with her two brothers, though I did think Sonny looked like a girl in some of the pictures. For example, he looks very much like a girl in the frame on the bottom left of p. 10.

Also, the manner of speech was a bit random. He did indeed have a lisp like Elmer Fudd, but other words seemed to be mispronounced at random. Oh well, I guess it gave us the idea that he was quite young.

Cheers

QQ
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2024, 12:59:38 AM »

Vera's Christmas Adventure

Another jolly romp where the parents have gone tripping off around Europe and left the children in the care of someone else. But if they hadn't, we wouldn't have this mystery.

As Robb said, it was pretty easy to see where the story was going, but I did like the way the clues tied together. For example, I thought Horace the Hamster was just a bit of a humorous diversion at first, but the fact he could chomp through string turned out to be important later. It was also a nice touch that there would be enough left over to give the maid a small pension. They could have left that out of the story, but it was a kind touch.

And wasn't it lucky that one of the Mummers turned out to be a policeman? I only heard about the Mummers relatively recently. I think they featured in one of those quirky Brit police shows like Father Brown (not sure if it was that show or another). But I didn't know much about them. Here's a little more about them:

https://www.britannica.com/art/mumming-play

I always did like a mystery, so I probably would have enjoyed reading this when I was maybe upper primary school (around 12 years). A nice wholesome Christmas tale.

Cheers

QQ
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2024, 01:08:55 AM »



Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure

I started out wondering why the narrative and dialogue referred to the children as "boys", when the little one was clearly a girl. There are no artist credits listed, but clearly, the artist was a female. Despite being all alone when reading this, I had to laugh out loud when reading the little boy's dialogue, with his strong lisp, that kept reminding me of hearing Mel Blanc's superb "Elmer Fudd"!!! That cartoon image kept taking me out of "Living inside" this story.  But it was a pleasant read nonetheless.
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Hi Robb - The first narration box in the story says that Vera is with her two brothers, though I did think Sonny looked like a girl in some of the pictures. For example, he looks very much like a girl in the frame on the bottom left of p. 10.

Also, the manner of speech was a bit random. He did indeed have a lisp like Elmer Fudd, but other words seemed to be mispronounced at random. Oh well, I guess it gave us the idea that he was quite young.
Cheers
QQ

Yes, I KNEW the author AND the artist intended them both to be girls.  But, the artist, undoubtedly a female, (as women tend to have a more difficult time drawing males, and males have a more difficult drawing females) not only made the youngest boy look like a girl (actually in ALL panels (some much moreso than others), but she also made the older boy (Tom) look like a girl in several panels.

I've just noticed that my post after SPL 12, on Girls' Crystal 740 is not showing on this thread.  I must have thought I hit the "Post" button, but had forgotten to do that, having been interrupted. More than an hour's thinking and writing lost.   :(
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2024, 02:38:55 AM »

You know, for a Charlton comic, Santa’s Tinker Tots wasn’t bad. Whitman’s art was pretty good despite a couple of curious decisions. The baby reindeer every now and then morphed into critters that looked like Chihuahua doggies. And Santa had these George Shearing/Jeff Healey eyes but seemed to see things okay.
The story had the usual holes you could drive a truck through...were the chihuahuas left on the roof, or did they catch a Santa redeye home? And there was no just desserts for Chubby, who reminded me of Brian Wilson in his “Little Saint Nick” phase. i’m assuming Ol’ Johnny Santangelo had them stick in a manger scene every few pages to keep the hard core happy.
The Whister has always been an old time radio fave, and yeah, Greg’ I can see the boys in the backroom scotch taping a Christmas angle to the whole deal. I like to listen to OTR at Christmas, usually the Jack Benny or Orson Welles programs, but other ones work too. Nice selections, ‘Panther.
It’s the 27th, here, hope everybody had a nice Christmas. We have a huge Monopoly game every year, the custom for which goes back to my college days...this year my grand daughter in Grade Five won everything.
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2024, 03:56:28 AM »

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We have a huge Monopoly game every year, the custom for which goes back to my college days...this year my grand daughter in Grade Five won everything.

When my (female) siblings and I were still living at home, we played Monopoly a lot. Unfortunately, I used to always win, so they got fed up and regularly cheated to spite me, which made it no fun for anybody.
A Monopoly game should last at least 24 hours. 
Curious fact:- Monopoly was originally developed to show people the evils of capitalism.  Don't think that worked out too well.
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Re: Reading Group#339 - At last Christmas
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2024, 06:36:31 AM »

Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure

There appears to be a signature on the cover, on Vera's coat, just under the title. The first letter is Clearly an R, that last letter might be a D, the middle letter is tough to make out because it blends into the shade of her coat fold.

Not a bad story.

The broken window seemed odd because so many mysteries make a big deal about where the broken glass fell, but nobody here pointed out that if a snowball broke the window there should be broken glass inside. Some Sherlock Holmes Tom is for not pointing that out.  ;)

Vera taking care of her younger brothers reminded me of Wendy and her brothers in Peter Pan, but also made me wonder if this was a common practice to get daughters in the habit of taking care of children for when they later become mothers?

The title is Vera's Christmas adventure which kind of ignores her brothers who certainly have parts to play in the story and at some points Vera didn't seem to realize she was in an adventure.

Richard, from a previous adventure, showing up seemed rather coincidental.

Mrs. Jarvis says she's the last of her family, but earlier we met her daughter-in-law. Did her only son die without having children? Seems like the writer forgot he had created a daughter-in-law when coming up with a reason for Mrs. Jarvis to give the carpet fragment to Tom.

Carving a clue into a tree stump seems like a bad idea as the wood could be burned or decompose before anyone saw the clue. In some respects these clues feel like the type of puzzles one would later find in the computer games Myst and Riven. (If only Vera had discovered a linking book in the house library.  ;) )

Odd that the Ferrars' ancestor would hide the diamonds under the painting of his late sister-in-law. Shouldn't the painting have signs of being repaired previously?

One interesting thing about old gemstones is that sometimes they turn out to be something different from what they are supposed to be. Studies of crown jewels have revealed 'rubies' that were actually red spinel, or it was discovered that red foil had been placed behind them to make them look redder. So wouldn't it have been 'interesting' if the 'diamonds' had actually turned out to be quartz instead? "Oh, dear! We have to sell the house anyway! Sob!" (I have a warped sense of humor.)
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2024, 07:21:43 AM »


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We have a huge Monopoly game every year, the custom for which goes back to my college days...this year my grand daughter in Grade Five won everything.

When my (female) siblings and I were still living at home, we played Monopoly a lot. Unfortunately, I used to always win, so they got fed up and regularly cheated to spite me, which made it no fun for anybody.
A Monopoly game should last at least 24 hours. 
Curious fact:- Monopoly was originally developed to show people the evils of capitalism.  Don't think that worked out too well.


Yes, I didn't know the roots of Monopoly until I saw this woman's story recently:

https://www.history.com/news/monopoly-game-inventor-elizabeth-magie

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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2024, 07:24:47 AM »


Schoolgirls' Picture Library 12 - Vera's Christmas Adventure

Mrs. Jarvis says she's the last of her family, but earlier we met her daughter-in-law. Did her only son die without having children? Seems like the writer forgot he had created a daughter-in-law when coming up with a reason for Mrs. Jarvis to give the carpet fragment to Tom.

Carving a clue into a tree stump seems like a bad idea as the wood could be burned or decompose before anyone saw the clue. In some respects these clues feel like the type of puzzles one would later find in the computer games Myst and Riven. (If only Vera had discovered a linking book in the house library.  ;) )

Odd that the Ferrars' ancestor would hide the diamonds under the painting of his late sister-in-law. Shouldn't the painting have signs of being repaired previously?



You picked up a lot of plot holes I missed, SuperScrounge. I'm testing negative for COVID now, but I'll claim that the effects of COVID brain fuzz are lingering  :D

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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2024, 08:09:20 AM »



I've just noticed that my post after SPL 12, on Girls' Crystal 740 is not showing on this thread.  I must have thought I hit the "Post" button, but had forgotten to do that, having been interrupted. More than an hour's thinking and writing lost.   :(


Oh no, Robb. It's frustrating when that happens. Can you give us the Reader's Digest version?

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2024, 10:12:40 AM »




I've just noticed that my post after SPL 12, on Girls' Crystal 740 is not showing on this thread.  I must have thought I hit the "Post" button, but had forgotten to do that, having been interrupted. More than an hour's thinking and writing lost.   :(


Oh no, Robb. It's frustrating when that happens. Can you give us the Reader's Digest version?
Cheers
QQ

Yes, it's very frustrating.  I wish this forum had the feature that automatically saves posts the user starts and leaves the page.  The  next time that user opens a new post, his or her previously started, non-posted post comes up, and he or she can choose to continue it or just erase it and start fresh.  More of the fora I frequent have that feature than those who don't have it.  Yes, I'll probably post a shorter version this time.
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« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2024, 12:39:46 AM »

 I must admit that I do (for the most part) enjoy Schoolgirls Picture Library. I used to read them to my granddaughters back when they were very much younger and they also enjoyed them. They (and I) did prefer the secret society tales, but this story was, indeed, a ripping yarn!
Quite good art and fast-paced action takes us on a whirlwind journey of villainy and deceit. Never mind the absent parents leaving the kids alone at Christmas- it's just a story! And it also give young lads some very useful advice- " Keep a hamster with you at all times. You never know when you might need one!"
New Years Cheers, bowers
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2024, 05:34:25 AM »

Santa's Tinker Tots #1

Santa and Superguy
Seems like an odd choice for a filler. It was amusing, but I wonder why they came up with it?


Main story
This might be better if I was younger (like in single digits), but the simplicity is a little annoying.

A penguin at the north pole???

Did Santa just leave the three little reindeer at the house? The writer seemed to forget them.


A Trap For Santa
Am I the only one who thinks Junior deserves not to get any presents?

And after Santa goes into the TV, out comes the girl from The Ring. Merry Christmas, Junior!  ;)


Back Cover
Given how high above Earth the X-1 and Santa are shown how can they breathe?  ;)
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« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2024, 10:14:58 PM »

SPL 12: Vera‘s Christmas Adventure

The “Vera” series SPLs (there are three others) are types of what you might call “mother” stories – where the heroine (adult or older child) is responsible for young children. This vein ran right through the girls’ titles, from any number of nanny and teacher stories to less probable examples such as the adventure gangs, many of which had a “baby” member (like Melly in the Peewits). Editors clearly thought that readers wanted plenty of stories that would appeal their “mothering instinct”, and from the popularity of the idea it seems that many readers agreed. This one is slightly unusual in the importance of the elder boy’s role in solving the mystery.

The story itself follows a familiar formula of family treasure hidden in an old house/castle, and suffers a little from the way that these earliest PLs tended to overburden their pages with long textbox explanations. However, I thought the writer found a few ingenious twists in the train of clues (especially perhaps the “tap is”/”tapis” red herring). The mystery is well worked out and the dialogue is lively and funny in parts. Personally, I could have done without the introduction of a boyfriend to do the heavy lifting, but that is a sign of the times – in later girls’ stories, the heroines did the rescuing themselves.

There’s an interesting quirky touch on page 59. Adventure story protagonists who have been captured and tied up found so many outlandish ways of freeing themselves that I’m thinking of making a collection. A hamster chewing through the ropes scores pretty highly. (The best I’ve seen was a story where the heroine was nabbed in the ruins of Pompeii, and cut herself free on a Roman sword sticking out of the ground – which had kept its edge after 2,000 years?)

I quite like the art for this. It’s technically rough, but lively and spontaneous, with a lot of facial expression. The artwork for quite a few picture libraries looks to me quite sketchy and slapdash compared with the artist’s other work (drawn in a hurry to tight deadlines, presumably), and it may be that other examples of this artist’s work would show more polish and anatomical accuracy. I can’t name the artist, but the cover was done by R B Davis.
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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2024, 11:59:00 PM »

Girl's Crystal

I only picked out a couple of stories to read, but I was pleasantly surprised at how good they were. Given that this book was published in 1949, I was expecting it to be a bit old-fashioned and all 'jolly hockey sticks', but the stories I read were both rollicking reads.

Rosalie, Robbie and the Robot

I picked this one because of the lure of the robot. It turned out to be part of an ongoing serial, but there was a paragraph at the start to catch us up on the story. The robot had been been hidden, but now appeared lost. Alas, we never actually saw the robot, nicknamed Archie, though we learned that fugitive Keith had found it. In spite of the expected robot never appearing, the story was dramatic and followed lots of twists and turns as Rosalie and her brother Robbie tried to help their friend Keith who had been wrongly accused of theft and was on the run from the police in Egypt. The exotic setting, hieroglyphic codes and derring-do made it a lot more interesting than the typical private school saga. I got to the end and actually wanted to know what happened next.

There are a few plot holes. At the bottom of the third column on the first page, Rosalie climbs along a ledge to reach Robbie's window without being seen by the snoopy Sammy. However, when she tells Robbie her clever plan, he gives her an admiring slap on the back. Um ... I don't think she's actually climbed through the window yet, so has he just slapped her off the ledge? LOL Also when they're escaping up and down sand dunes, a carriage is seen coming towards them. I assume it's a horse-drawn carriage? How does it get up and down those sand dunes? The illustration on p. 231 would also be better placed on the previous page.

However, plot holes aside, it was an interesting tale.

The Imposter at the Winter Sports

I picked this one because it seemed like there might be a crime or a mystery, and indeed there was. It's again part of a serial but there's a one-par synopsis at the beginning. 'The Domino' is an interesting name for a baddie, though why wasn't he wearing a domino mask like Batgirl?  :D It also reminded me of the Aussie hero 'The Grey Domino'. We have a few of those on CB+. However, this Domino has some nefarious plan to infiltrate Castle Schloss in Germany, and fake diamonds are somehow tied up in the plan. That probably would have been clearer if I'd read the earlier parts.  Hazel has been impersonating skater Kay so that she can get an urgent message to Kay's brother Cliff who is waiting at Castle Schloss. However, her impersonation is exposed by supposed customs officials at the German border and she is escorted off. In spite of the Domino's attempts to get her out of the country, she turns up at the castle only to discover that the Domino is impersonating Cliff, after presumably getting the real Cliff out of the way. I wondered why none of the staff realised it wasn't the real Cliff, when Hazel so easily saw through his disguise. Again, that may have been clearer if I'd read the earlier parts, as I don't know whether Cliff lives at the castle or if he was just visiting and therefore not as well-known to the staff. It finishes on a cliffhanger with Hazel being escorted away without anyone believing her story. And then in the sleigh, .... well I won't spoil it for you.

Again, I was surprised by the quality. It was quite a good tale, and readers would have felt for the poor misunderstood Hazel. It was also interesting that they were going into Germany just a few years after the war. I wonder what that would have been like? I imagine there would have still been trepidation if you were being carted away by men you thought were customs officers taking you to the police.

In both of these stories, it was good to see girls right in the middle of the action, being brave and intrepid. The settings were interesting, especially the one in Egypt. I liked this a lot more than I was expecting.

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QQ
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