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Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish

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The Australian Panther

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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2025, 12:31:31 AM »

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Guy Fawkes Day. At last someone can clear a matter up for me. My college roommate grew up in England and moved to the USA while in his teens. Once when Guy Fawkes Day came up in conversation, he told me that in England the event was pronounced "GUFfux day." I never heard that before or since. My British friends: was he correct?

The question would be, in which part of the UK did your roommate hail from?
Because that would be dialect.
While we all like to believe that we speak the same language, British, Australians, New Zealanders, Americans and South Africans speak with a distinct accent and when it is strong enough it can be fairly indecipherable and that we call a regional dialect.
'GUFfux' is possibly Northern England.
So if you go into another country and you think you speak the language and you are staying out in the country, you can get a rude shock and find you can't understand very much at all. This can happen in any country area where the inhabitants have been there for centuries and are proud of their uniqueness.
So, most European Countries, the British Isles and many other countries.
I was involved for a while with South Koreans who we brought to our town to help them with English. Lovely people. English is a compulsory subject in South Korea. But the teachers are all Koreans and not native speakers so - When they get off the plane and arrive in Australia, not only do they find that working English is very different from Classroom English, but they have to learn to speak Australian English.
I'm an TESOL (English as a second language teacher) so I apologize, I can rabbit on about this subject  for ages.
But two more points.
The USA. I'm convinced that one of the unappreciated factors in what is currently going on there is that there is an unconscious language prejudice. It seems to me that whenever someone from the East or West coasts (Boston?) hears a Southern Accent, no matter how formidable the speakers credentials may be, they hear Little Abner or the Beverley Hillbillies and instantly dismiss what that individual has to say.
The UK. Never, Never call someone from the UK, English unless you are totally sure they are English.
"British" is acceptable. But they may be Welsh, Scots or Irish and you will almost inevitability offend.
And even then you can get into trouble because Regions within England can have strong individual speaking patterns. When I was in London, the locals I was with spoke with a strong accent which I thought was Liverpudlian and said so. They lost a deal of respect for me because they were in fact BRUMMIES - from Birmingham! I wish I could write that with the correct accent.   
Over to you Paw Broon!               
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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2025, 06:02:57 AM »


Halloween
I enjoyed everyone's Halloween recollections. Paw Broon's evocative description made we wish I'd grown up in Scotland! My personal Halloween memories begin around 1958-1959, when I was ten. Dad had retired from the Navy, still in his early forties (he enlisted at 17) and we moved to Washington State where he'd found a new job.
We settled into a small town (4000 people) with a very 50s-neighborhood vibe. (1) There we trick-or-treated wearing costumes our mothers made. My favorite was a two-piece cardboard-box robot which Mom had painted silver and decorated with a pie tin and other high-tech gadgets. (2) There was also at least one costume parade in elementary school. We kids trick-or-treated in groups of three or four. Parents sometimes came along but not usually. We limited our begging to our immediate neighborhood. It covered maybe eight or ten blocks, all single-family homes. I'm sure there must have been some "tricking" because our class had a couple of jerk kids. I was one of the Good Boys though and knew nothing about that. Halloween was a succession of smiling grownups loading our sacks with goodies. Except for one house, which no one was eager to visit. That belonged to the town dentist, who handed out toothbrushes.

(1) Almost every year a neighbourhood kid would dress up as a robot which involved wearing Box-shaped parts, made of cardboard, painted silver.  My parents made my robot costume when I was 7.  The cardboard facemask and cap and diving goggles behind the mask, peeking through eyeholes, was hot.  But Oct 31st in Winnipeg was usually very cold, especially back in those years.

(2) We had a costume parade every year in elementary school.  Invariably, there were at least a couple robots, spacemen (wearing a fishbowl helmet), based on the comic strip and cinema serial films Buck Rodgers and Flash Gordon, as well as the usual ghosts, goblins, gremlins, Cowboys, "Indians" (native North Americans/1st nation people - No Inuits However, despite having them occupying a large part of the north of our province!) Of course, girls were Witches, ballerinas, princesses, including Snow White, famous actresses, nurses, schooteachers, etc.  Some kids went with a white smock as doctors, holding a toy stethoscope, some as Mounties.  Now that I think about it, I'm surprised that no boys dressed up as Johnny Canuck, and no girls as Nelvana of The Northern Lights.  (how soon they forget).  Yet, we DID have some dress up as Superman and Batman.

For "Trick-or-Treating" in our neighbourhood, I teamed with 2 of my cousins, with the younger 2 (myself and my "brother cousin" same age, we wore our hockey uniforms, and my other cousin (one year older, wore a white T-shirt his mother painted on black vertical stripes) going as a referee.  We 2 players used eyeblack (used by footballers to keep the Sun's glare from blinding them on plays) to give us "black eyes" like hockey players used to get from fights.  Our mothers also painted a few of our teeth black (food colouring- to look like missing teeth) and scar lines on our faces with make-up.  Back in the early '50s even kids weren't required to wear helmets.  The only players who wore helmets (very rare) were kids who had had multiple concussions, or a very severe one from hitting their heads hard on the ice from an unexpected fall, or having been hit in the head by a flying puck, or clobbered in the head by an unbalanced mean kid.  Hockey Canada didn't require all players to wear helmets, until 1964. 

Anyway, we'd go up onto each porch, after the previous kids cleared, and we 2 players would put our sticks down on the pavement in a face-off stance, and the Ref would drop the puck, and we'd simulate a faceoff, like they do in honourary celebrations for The Hall of Fame.  It was sort of like a "performance" kids used to do in the 1930s to the early '50s, like quoting a Halloween poem, singing a song, telling a very short Ghost story, to get their "swag" "tribute" from the neighbourhood parents, for not playing a nasty trick on them. 

That "performing element" stopped around the mid or early late '50s, when Halloween started getting much more Commercial, with bought, mass-produced costumes and wrapped special Halloween candy, and plastic pumpkins that already had jagged edged carved teeth, depriving kids of the fun of watching their fathers carve the pumpkin faces.  Halloween was a lot more fun when it was inventive, before it got so commercialized and streamlined, and even eventually dangerous, in more recent years with crazy people trying to harm the kids with razor blades embedded in apples, pears, cake, or soft candy, or laced with dangerous drugs. 
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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2025, 08:01:26 AM »


Li'l Ghost #1

I agree with whomever said Li'l Ghost looks like an alien. It's weird that his eyes are drawn to look like one big round eye peeking through holes in a sheet.

The only thing I liked about this one was the first story. It wasn't great, but it had a couple of funny bits. The art does nothing for me. QQ, I also puzzled over the instruction to watch the witch's dress. I think the pointy black shape caught on the drawbridge is supposed to be her dress. Her hat came off when the drawbridge rose--there's a hat-shaped object to her upper left, near the turret. A case of bad drawing, I think.

The rest of the stories are awful. They all take a one (or at the most two) page joke a stre-e-e-e-etch it out forever before delivering a weak punch line. Frank Johnson's art on the Tuffy story is better than Li'l G's art but not all that much.

QQ, I was dumbfounded by the Tuffy story. Even in a misogyny-infested decade like the 1950s the "gag" didn't belong in a kids' comic. But wait--there's more! This is a Comics Code approved comic! I reread the story. Tuffy imagines the man is "shaking" the woman. The choice of words struck me as odd. So I looked closer.

I'm willing to bet that "shaking" was a Code change to cover something worse. Look where the man's hands are. Look at her body language. Tuffy originally fantasized that the man was strangling his lover! "Ewww" indeed!


Hi Crashryan

I was one of the people who said the eyes look like an alien. I guess they were trying to make him look different to Casper, but it made him look a bit creepy. Thanks for the clarification about the witch's hat and dress. I missed the hat flying off. Though you're right that the drawing isn't very good. The triangular part of the dress looks like the hat. And I think you might be right about the word 'shaking' being substituted for something else. It still doesn't work in a kid's comic. Probably lucky they got away with that one. Maybe the Comics Code rep said 'You can't have him strangling the girl' and they came back and said, 'It's okay. We fixed it so she's not being strangled.' Interesting times.

Cheers

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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2025, 08:27:24 AM »

The Ghost Rider
(1) Ghost Rider 1 - Origin Story
I like the origin story idea that the ghosts (spirits) of some of the famous crime-fighters of The USA's Old West train The Ghost Rider in skills to combat violent criminals, and give him the insight into the villains' psyches and the benefit of the great crime fighters many years of experience in fighting them.  The researching writer of this story must have done a little work to see how Apaches dressed and wore their hair in the late 1800s.  So many Western genre stories had their creators not do the required research work to make them believable to readers that know something about the history.  Having The Chinese Cook's name be "Sing-Song" seems a bit racist and   demeaning, especially with no explanation for why he is called that, which could possibly make it palatable. Just like Tarzan, the European invaders of other peoples' lands need to have similar-looking people to themselves even be the leaders of other continents' VERY different peoples, because of their superiority complex.  They want to think of all the people who stand in their way for their desired World Domination as so inferior, that they can't possibly have competent leaders.  So, IF they somehow manage to fight them, even as just a thorn in their side irritant, that could only come about because a "renegade" "White Man" leads them in such uprisings.  That kind of thinking is sickening to me.  The writer and artist don't show us where, or what the whirlpool is.  We must assume that it is in an area of rapids in a mountain stream (large creek or river).  It looks like the 2 victims come out of the water in an underground cavern Rex Fury (The Hero) recognises The Ghost of Wild Bill Hickock, and soon meets the ghosts of other Old west heroes who gather to teach him skills he'll need to fight crime and warlike "Indians".  Of course, the reader isn't told what The European immigrants have done to those Native North American Peoples to make them fight.  After a few hours, perhaps days, he is crowned by the ghosts as "better than any man alive" for the job of freeing The Old American West from crime.  And for good measure, the ghosts find the perfect silver horse for him.  He is now an avenging superhero, who will tame The Wild West, stopping on crime at a time.

For his first job, The Ghost Rider keeps two greedy prospectors from trying to murder each other for fools' gold.  It seems he dreamed all that, after he wakes up back in the cavern, and finds Sing-Song. Leaving the cavern, he finds the silver horse waiting for him.  So he knows it was no dream, and makes his costume, and starts fighting crime.

(2) Ghost Rider 2 -"The Fire Ghost"
The Wrath of Wakonda, the spirit warrior of The Great Plains Tribes has come up from The Nether World of Na'Aka Daya to rouse The Osage, Kiowa, Cheyenne, Arapaho to make war on The White invaders in defence of their lands.  He has summoned their leaders to the heart of The Sangre De Cristo Mountains of Central New Mexico, to plan their war against The US Army's frontier regiments.  Fury sees many warriors attacking a small Army patrol detail, who are far outnumbered, and sure to be slaughtered.  I find it interesting that the leader of the US soldiers realises that the various tribes have been roused by an "Indian" ghost.  He believes that dead people can interact with the living.  This is told to us matter-of-factly.  Fury waits until dark to go into his act and try to save the US soldiers.  The soldiers think Fury is the Indian ghost rousing them to war.  Apparently, The White-Eyes have spies among The Plains Tribes.  They've heard about The Osage Medicine Man summoning Their Ghost ancestor Wakonda to call for war.  The author tries to explain that a living tribal member covers his clothing in phosphorus to shine white in the night.  But the Spirit actor is wearing nothing but breeches, so how do his abdomen and face shine?  Fury fights the false "Spirit" in a lodge (house), which is set on fire by the Medicine Man, to kill "the evil spirit" (Ghost Rider).  Fury uses the smoke trick of The Medicine Man to appear as a spirit to the tribe, and tells them that HE will return to The Spirit World to summon The true Wakonda to punish them for their foolishness.  Does he speak Osage? Or is it Arapaho, or Cheyenne?  If he speaks English to them, would they understand him, or even listen, as he is the enemy.  These stories almost are never realistic.  The dead heroes could have taught him to speak ALL of the different Great Plains Tribes' languages fluently during the few weeks of his "dream", and then, the comic book could have used an asterisk after all the balloons of his monologue of warning, saying that he was speaking Osage, and it is translated to English, for the convenience of the reader.  I always liked that method in The Uncle Scrooge comics.  8)  So, the war party's different warrior contingents went back to their tribes andcancelled their war.  And ALL is well again in The West, until The Ghost Rider has to ride again.

(3) Saga of Sagebrush Sam
Bit of so-called comedy relief, in the form of a 1-page comic poem.  It is fairly clever with a mild joke ending, and only wastes one page.  And though entertaining, The Ghost Rider stories are not serious enough to be helped significantly by adding one page.  They are so short that they are just scenarios, in any case.  Actually, I would have used the extra page in the Origin Story, to show where in the hills Fury was, and showed him approaching the river, before it went underground, showing the whirlpool above ground, and Fury and Sing-Song being carried into the underground channel.

(4) Ghost Rider 3 - "Spook Justice"
A greedy rancher wants to scare away all new cattle ranchers from coming into his valley and competing with him.  Rex Fury's friend, Harberg, has bought a ranch there, hoping working on it will help his disabled son return to better health. The crooked rancher and his ranchhands attack Harberg's farm, shooting a few cows and trying to scare him away.  But, The Ghost Rider rides in and scares The Villains away.  The next night, The Baddies attack Harberg's ranch to kill him, but also send out a small group to divert The Ghost Rider away from the main action.  The Ghost Rider uses his black cape to make his body invisible, and only his head is seen by the Gang members, who tell him that the main gang is at Harberg's ranch. The Ghost Rider races there.  Meanwhile, The Gang has tied up the family and are ready to set fire to their house to burn them alive.  Ghost Rider arrives and has Sing-Song project his image, so when The Villains shoot him the bullets just go through his image, scaring them into thinking that he IS truly a Ghost, who can't be hurt.  Terrified, they surrender.  And The Harbergs march the Gang to The Sheriff's jail.

(5) Western Range Book - Historic Information Page 
Not sure how TRUE these legends were, Wild Bill Hickock killing a giant bear with a short knife, Robber, Black Bart spouting poetry when robbing stage coaches, and information about the turkey vulture.  Lives up to the name, "filler"!

(6) The Haunted Hills - Text Story
Johnny McKay, a VERY superstitious, luck-preoccupied, gold prospector, loses all his good luck charms, travelling in a very dangerous Indian-infested area, and notices he is being watched by them.  He was scared, but the lure of gold he'd seen that had washed down in the river kept him going further.  He saw the figure of a ghostly-looking Indian brave, and broke and ran, hearing the steps of the man coming after him.  Johnny fell, hitting his head hard on the rocky trail.  He lost consciousness.  When he came to, he saw that his fall had been broken by a spiny cliff bush.  Suddenly, he noticed a thick vein of gold in the cliff.  This strike would make him rich! He wondered if he'd been too hung up believing luck (or lack of it) is the cause of everything.  He felt how good it was to still be alive, and realised that worshipping luck played no part in what happened to him.  This 2-Page story had a LOT of detailed description that made me feel like I was living through what the character did.  And the way the story was told told a story all people have thought about, and resolved that character's problem of living in his head instead of seeing clearly what he is facing in life.  So, it is entertaining, and informative about an aspect of life that most people reflect upon during their lives.  So, it can be instructive, or helpful, as well as entertaining.  To ME, this is, by far, the best story in this book, despite being so short, and not having the visual aspect of comics-told stories.

(7) Ghost Rider 4 - "A Trap For Nemesis"
Apparently, NO hideout can keep a villain safe from the wrath of The Ghost Rider, and NO hiding place for ill-gotten gains, is safe enough from the law or law-abiding citizens finding it! A gang of bank robbers think they have the perfect hideout and hiding place for their booty, but The Ghost Rider showed up to their meeting and slugged their leader, who realises that someone with such a solid fist, must be alive.  They plan to trap him, and kill him.  They camouflage over top of a hole-trap, planning to draw him towards it and he'll fall in while chasing them. 

The Gang robs the bank in the small town, and The Ghost Rider follows them.  They lead him straight to the hole trap.  He and his horse fall in.  When the gang looks into the hole, they see neither The Ghost , nor his horse, and see no bottom to the hole.  now they are sure he is a Ghost. They run to their nearby hideout, slide open the boulder door, run inside and seal it up again.  They quickly move their booty farther back in the abandoned mine, and sealed off the side tunnels, so no one will find them.  With more than enough food for that amount of time, plan to stay there a month, until the authorities are sure they had left the Territory.

Meanwhile, The Ghost Rider comes to, and realises that he and his horse avoided being injured from their fall, because of the layer of soft earth over the mine shaft tunnels.  He explores the tunnel until coming into the area where The Gang had moved.  He defeats several of them in battle, and they are so afraid of him because they had seen their bullets go through his ephemeral "body" that they think he is immortal, and they surrender to him.  He orders them at gunpoint, to dig their way ouit of the mine, and marches them to the town's jail.

Overall Assessment:
All 4 Ghost Rider Stories have his legend of being an immortal ghost scaring his enemies into giving up the fight, surrendering to him, always when they greatly outnumber him in combatants and firearms because they really believe he is immortal because of his light shining "projection" tricks to make them see their bullets firing directly through the outlines of his "body", and his not being affected.  So, the stories all have the "feeling" of superhero stories.
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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2025, 06:52:48 AM »

Stories By Famous Authors Illustrated #6 - William Shakespeare's MacBeth
MacBeth Part 1
3 Old Women (prophesising Witches) predict that King Duncan will make  MacBeth lord of Cawdor, and after, will die.  And MacBeth will succeed him as King of Scotland.
MacBeth's wife and He, himself plot to murder The King, and commit that heinous act.
MacBeth's wife makes the murder scene look as if The Kings own sons murdered him.
The King's 2 young sons seek refuge, one in England, and one in Ireland

MacBeth Part 2
MacBeth was crowned King of Scotland.
But, because The 3 Weird Sisters prophesised that Banquo and his son, Fleance, would succeed MacBeth as King, MacBeth planned to make Banquo and his son as his next murder victims.
MacBeth hires 3 men to murder Banquo and his son in the woods on their way to MacBeth's castle.  They killed Banquo, but Fleance got away.
The Ghost of Banquo, visible only to MacBeth, sits in Macbeth';s chair at the banquet table.
MacBeth returns to The 3 Sisters to learn his fate.  MacBeth is haunted by an army of clones of Banquo's ghosts. MacBeth had asked his vassal, McDuff, to come to his aid in protection, but McDuff went south to England to raise an army to fight against MacBeth, who in vengeance, hires men to murder MacDuff's wife and children.  MacDuff joins Duncan's son, Malcolm in England, ton raise armies to fight MacBeth.
Near MacBeth's Dunsinane Castle, many Scottish chieftains have joined MacDuff's and Malcolm's army to overthrow MacBeth.

MacBeth Part 3 - Prophesies Revealed
Malcolm's and MacDuff's army marches towards Dunsinane Castle and Siward's son meets MacBeth in single combat, and is killed.  The battle between the armies starts and MacBeth's soldiers surrender.   MacDuff then approaches MacBeth.  MacDuff defeats MacBeth in combat, and severs the latter's head as a trophy, and Malcolm is proclaimed King of Scotland.

I enjoyed reading this modern English "translation" of Shakespeare's play, and, of course, looking at the excellent artwork.
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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2025, 09:15:04 AM »

Off on a tangent again as panther taled about calling folk from the UK, English.  And he's correct.  4 countries make up the United Kingdom of Gt. Britain and Northern Ireland.  Scotland is a nation in its own right, subsumed into the UK. I am Scottish, then British.  Not anything else.  Glad I got that off my chest.
We always called the 5th, Guy Fawkes or bonfire night.  So many can't seem to differentiate between Halloween and bonfire night, so fireworks are set at both, and between.
Comics. I just don't get Shakespeare.  Never have.  Don't understand the language.  Do not understand why it is considered so important.  But I'm sure someone will tell me ::)
To compound my sins, CI and similar titles never appealed to me.  This one included.
For better or worse, that's my contribution  ;)
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2025, 07:30:47 PM »

Air Fighters Comics Vol. 1 #12

(1) Airboy - Misery - No credits confirmed, but thought to have been drawn by Fred Kida
Misery is defined as The Keeper of "The Air Tomb" and Master of "The Black Hole of Calcutta".  I assume that "The Air Tomb" is the portion of The Sky where pilots and their planes meet their doom (having unlucky and unexpected accidents caused by the Misery - just for his pleasure).  I guess that Misery is NOT Mr. Death or The Devil, because his "realm" as specified here, is NOT The Earth, or The Universe, or The Underworld, but rather only a specific small portion of those places.  So he must be just a Henchman (possibly the Top, or highest ranked assistant of Mr. Death, or The Devil.  But not really defining exactly who he is, and what his "powers" and areas of authority are, is an error by the author and hurts understanding of the story, whose purpose and value in being told, is cloudy.  So Airboy dies and comes back to life again.  Is THIS story Airboy's official "Origin Story"?

As stated above by several posters, The Author's lack of researching what he is writing about and obviously knows little about is worthy of being ridiculed.  Calcutta is in the flat area of West Bengal, straddling both sides of The Hooghly River near where it approaches The Indian Ocean's coast.  It is not only NOT high in The Mountains, but actually almost as far away from the mountains in the southerly direction, as it can possibly be.  The old adage, "one should not talk about what he does not know in the manner of an authority" clearly holds in this case.  And, there are no high cliffs in The City of Calcutta from which to jump off (as shown in the scene starring Pierre Duray).  I conducted an Internet search for Pierre Duray, and found only references to the Airboy comic book series.  So, I assume that this story's author looked up the inventor who built and tested the birdlike wings that a man used like a glider, to jump off high places to see if a man could fly like a bird.  I found that Arthur Duray, a Belgian aviator, and airplane tester, was chosen during the early years of The 20th Century, to test the motorised "birdlike wings" machine (seen in a famous slapstick comedy short film on Man's early attempts at flight).  So, the author of this story invented a 200 years earlier ancestor of the real Duray, as the first man since Icarus to test birdlike wings to show that Man can fly.  I find it interesting that the author didn't specify to the colourists that the native Bengalis shown in the Duray scenes should have very dark brown skin.  They are shown with European facial features and pinkish skin. Even Albinos from Europe, always covering nothing but the area of a modern men's swimsuit, would have bright red skin from sunburn, and blondes (who can tan) would have a very dark tan, indeed.  This author must have seen too many American or British films in which "caucasian" non-Indians portrayed Indian natives.

I'm not sure what the author had in mind for the meaning of Duray's comment about "The Air Tomb" rock formation that looks like a 1940s or 1950s modern airplane(which would have meant nothing to Duray in 1738).  The whole concept of this story is about as far away from being well thought out as it could possibly have been.  This shows us how very desperate comic book editors were for stories to put in their books in the early days of the comic book industry, when everyone was jumping on the bandwagon trying to take advantage of the new demand built up from the success of Superman and Batman.

Paw's point about The American writers and editors' lack of knowledge of the distinction between Great Britain and British and England and English is well taken, as the author refers to an "English airfield".  There was no separate armed services airfield administered by a solely English armed service.  It was a British military airfield, located in England.  Airboy is on the job there.  He speaks with an American accent (wording and phrasing).  Was he supposed to be n American volunteer in The RAF?  Or was he supposed to be a Brit, and his speech is translated to American idiom so that the American readers can understand what he says or thinks?

Misery turns up to claim RAF planes and their pilots, in the name of "The Curse of Pierre Duray".  So, Duray's curse must have been a pact made with Mr. Death, or The Devil, for one of them to send his henchman, Misery, to see that that pact's agreement is carried out.  EVERY RAF plane goes down except Airboy's. 

Airboy looks like a teenager (suspiciously of similar age to this comic book series' largest market segment).  We have to assume that he was desirous of adventure, and too young to qualify for his own country's armed forces, which were not involved in a war in 1940, in any case, so he volunteered for The UK's RAF, who was losing pilots at such a high pace that they were so desperate to get every recruit possible, they ignored enforcement of the age restrictions.

Just about the silliest element of this story so far (and there are a LOT of such elements) is the hand-written note from Misery to Airboy, found on a crashed RAF plane (which, apparently, Airboy was destined to find while he explores a crash scene, NOT to find a living pilot whose life he may be able to save, but rather, to find out why ALL the RAF planes (but his) have been downed and crashed, and no German plane was even disabled).  This whole story, so far, is unbelievably poorly thought out.  With that in mind, let us consider that "The Black Hole of Calcutta" was the legendary prisoner holding cell (tank) inside British Fort William, a 14 by 18 foot room in which in 1756, The Nawab of Bengal crammed his 146 British prisoners upon capturing that fort.  All but 23 of them were reported to have died of suffocation their first night spent there.  The author's "Black Hole of Calcutta", is a volcano caldera (crater opening) ostensibly at least as high as the upper foothills of The Himalaya Mountains, nowhere near the City of Calcutta.  There is no sign of any town or city, or even stray homes, or buildings of any kind in the scenes showing the author's "Black Hole".  It would be difficult to think of how an immortal being Devil's Henchman, or Demon, like "Misery" would have been in charge of a single room inside a British fort in India.  Why would a Demon charged with ending the lives of the best ace military fighter pilots in The World choose that small room inside a government building to do away with The World's best fighter pilots???  Why does such a Demon need to take pilots fighting in The Battle of Britain all the way over thousands of miles to West Bengal, to kill them, after making them crash near England?  After Misery gets into the cockpit of Airboy's plane, to use it to capture other great Human pilots (why does he need it? - he was capturing them all, without a plane).  Airboy, not yet dead from breathing the volcano's toxic gasses, uses his radio controls to call the plane to his location.  In the background, flying over the caldera, we see a Pteradactyl and some vampire bats.  The author is tossing wayyyyy too many different, totally unrelated, impossible contradictory things into this story.  It has no single, logical trajectory.  The plane lands in the caldera, and Airboy wins a fist and kick fight with Misery, and as the volcano starts erupting, grabs onto the wheels of his plane, as it takes off on its own volition, (ostensibly due to its fear of being melted by the hot lava.  The episode ends with Airboy wondering about Misery, and with a coming attraction description of the next episode in which he meets "The 4 Horosemen".  Will the be the legendary 4 Horsemen of The Apocalypse? - or Knute Rockne's 4 -man backfield of Notre Dame University's legendary football team?  Stay tuned!

(2) Skywolf - The Crow vs. Skywolf - Drawn by Dan Berry
Nazi arch-villain, Baron Krau leaves a hostage of an anti-Nazi underground leader in The Sahara Desert territory of France, which can only be mistaken for being a legal part of Metropolitan France (which it was NOT, as only the Mediterranean section of Algeria was, and the Saharan portions were designated as overseas territories.  I'm giving the benefit of the doubt that this author didn't think that there were deserts in European France.  If he or she were the same author as that of the Airboy story, I COULD believe that.  Sky wolf's planes spot a woman lying in the sand, pick her up and fly her to England.  Sky Wolf, who wears a real wolf's head hat, apparently is not only an Allied WWII pilot, also seems to be a spy.  He and his mute Polish colleague "Turtle", are dropped over central Berlin in a glider.  They are attacked by 6 German soldiers, but the 2 Allies defeat all 6.  The "Good Guys" always win!  Sky Wolf and Turtle soon are looking through Baron Krau's headquarters, watch the rescued woman's German anti-Nazi Underground leader husband, Albrecht, murdered by Krau's right-hand-man, "The Butcher". He and Turtle beat up the four guards, and Sky Wolf sees the radio man sending a message, and knocks him unconsciousBut the message got to Krau in his castle.  A sentient crow??? delivers a challenge invitation from Baron Krau to Sky Wolf for an "Air Duel" between them.  I know of talking parrots and magpies with large vocabularies.  But they don't think.  And I haven't heard of anyone teaching a crow to mimic Human speech.  Sky Wolf's 4 planes take up the dogfight challenge, but, of course the lying, cheating Nazis send 100 of their planes.  "That isn't Cricket!" as they say.
Of course, the 4 allied planes win the battle against hundreds.  Sky Wolf shoots down The Baron's plane.  And ALL the German planes leave, when they see that their leader has been killed.  If only such an occurrence had been true and happened often.  I might have a LOT more relatives than I do now.

(3) Private Skinny McGinty - The promotion of Private McGinty - Drawn by Tony Dipreta

The art style tells me this will be inane attempts at comedy.  I'm not looking forward to this experience.  And I guessed right.  It is a very silly story of the typical airheaded recruit, who gets mistaken for an officer, and succeeds just by "dumb luck". Most of the jokes were very expected, and not funny.  A waste of story space, although Airboy wasn't worth adding pages.  It already is too disjointed and silly to waste more space that could be used for a better, more interesting and entertaining story.

(4) Iron Ace - The Leper - Drawn by Bill Fraccio
The Iron Ace wears a suit of metal armour that looks like the heavy, clunky armour of The Middle Ages.  My experience sitting in a 2-seater airplane with the Sun shining directly on us was being very hot, even wearing just jeans and a cotton T-shirt.  I can imagine how hot it would be in that plane's cockpit, in direct sunlight, in The Tropics (as they are in this story).  The pilot might die from heat prostration (especially if the suit of armour is almost pure iron. 

Why does The Leper have a green face with yellow spots?  Even if leprosy would result in skin having a slight greenish tinge, it wouldn't be dark and solid forest green, with solidly bordered bright yellow spots, making the person look like a painted circus clown.  And would that disease give its victims sharp canine teeth as a special bonus?  So, The Iron Ace arrives on the scene because he was tracking the movements of The Leper's submarine.  The Leper has a folded up, compact airplane stored inside his giant submarine.  He takes it on deck to fly off to have a dogfight with Iron Ace. But Iron Ace maneuvers his plane to keep out of range of The Leper, and The Leper leaves.  Iron Ace takes a speedboat out to the sub and boards it. The Leper jumps on him.  The Iron Ace, carrying a bag of sulphur, knowing it will destroy flesh in open leprosy wounds, pours it on The Leper, who dives into the sea in much pain.  This story ends without explaining whether or not The Leper dies.  Likely not.  The water washed the sulphur off, sand The Leper will be back in a future story.  This was a disappointing quick ending that didn't resolve the story's questions.  The Leper would have his sulphur damaged area treated, and continue his attack on The US held island.  So, this story was just a "slice of life", showing a day in thePacific Theatre of WWII, when American Iron Ace fought The Japanese Leper, and The Regular Japanese Navy's attack on a US held pacific island's installation was interrupted.

(5) Bald Eagle - Bomber Graveyard in The Atlantic - uncredited, but suspected to have been drawn by John Cassone
The Bomber Graveyard of The North Atlantic is in the area nearest to The East Coast of The USA of the shuttle route of bomber planes to The European and North African Theatres, and suddenly, EVERY Allied plane is being downed and crashed by a mysterious enemy, coming from "nowhere".  US Army Air Corps higherups feel that it is impossible for enemy aircraft to operate so close to The US coast.  They bring in Jack Gatling, ("The Bald Eagle"), to discover how the Allied planes are being destroyed, and stop it from happening, by having him act as an aerial convoy accompanying (slightly behind and above) and guarding each plane on its trip.  On his first trip, The Bald Eagle sees his assigned bomber dive into the ocean, when no other plane or enemy boat was in sight.  The Bald Eagle's plane, on automatic pilot, keeps flying while he hears loud music.  The loud music knocked him unconscious.  The Bald Eagle flies to The Coast, to refuel and inform his superiors what had happened.  He bumps into an old man playing a flute, the same tune that caused the pilots to lose their consciousness, and felt a hard metal object on the man's back. He jumps on the man, tears off his jacket, hears the man swear in German, and sees a radio strapped to his back.  The man hits him and runs away.  At the man's house, The Eagle sees the German's plane take off.  So, he runs to his own much faster plane and takes off and quickly catches up, and The Bald Eagle shoots the plane out of the sky, into the ocean.  The German parachuted out, and The Bald Eagle retrieves him as a prisoner.  He turns the German over to his Bomber Shuttle Commander for questioning, and the destruction of the bombers is over.  This story had a clever plot idea, and was worth reading.

(6) The Black Angel - drawn by John Cassone
This is a well thought out, well-plotted spy/underground story about The WWII occupation of Jugoslavia (Serbia) by The Germans, and The Chetniks freedom fighters, who kidnap the occupation general and simulate a (false) cholera epidemic to free a captured scientist forced to spread cholera among the local population, to avenge underground activities against The Nazis, to discourage further such activities. The Black Angel and her associates make The Germans think the epidemic was spread, and even reached their own troops, causing a panic among The Germans and saving the local population.  An interesting story and well carried out in the well-paced plot with high-quality drawing, good action.  It held my interest all the way.  I liked this story best of this book.

(7) The Flying Dutchman vs. Dr. Roulette and his Wheel of Death - drawn by Bob Fujitani
A Dutch WWII Underground fighter, who delivers boats to The Norwegian Underground in their fjords, is captured, along with a few Norwegian patriots by German Agent, Dr. Roulette, who has temporarily been sinking the boats sent from England to Norway.  He murders his captives by giving them transfusions of his own poisoned blood (from his deadly blood disease).  The Dutchman escapes, vowing to return to Roulette's Junk to kill the villain and his crew.  Later, The Dutchman flies above Roulette's junk, shot at by Roulette's portable anti-aircraft guns.  The Dutchman drops two explosives cans onto the junk, blowing it to smithereens.  But, before he died, Roulette hit the tail of The Dutchman's plane, sending it down to The Sea.  The plane crashes, nose first into the water with The Dutchman sitting above the cockpit, hoping to be rescued by the Norwegian Underground men who had were in a rowboat they used to abandon the boat Roulette had sunk.  They rescue him to continue the fight against The Axis Powers.  Not a bad story, but not as good as "The Black Angel", tainted for me by the silly, unnecessary addition of the peculiar, eccentric villain and his silly, cruel and irrational way of disposing of his victims, which adds nothing that helps the story (but rather changes its genre to fantasy, as opposed to straight war/combat).
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Li'l Ghost 1 - Fago Studio - Leased to St. John Publishing Corp.
Background
This character was clearly a copy of Casper the friendly Ghost, whose first comic book stories were published by St. John, in 1951 and 1952, when St. John Publishing had the contract with Paramount Pictures to publish comic books using their characters, which also included Little Audrey, and possibly others that weren't used. Maybe when their first contract was up in 1953, Paramount didn't re-sign with St. John, because they didn't use Paramount's other characters, Brownie Bear, Buzzy Crow, Baby Huey, and Herman and Katnip?  I'm not sure if taking advantage of Casper's great success with Harvey Comics, and in Paramounts short cartoon films, was Archer St. John's idea, and he contracted with The Fago Brothers' Studio to draw it, or Al Fago came up with the idea, and drew up storyboards, and shopped them to St. John and other comic book publishers to get one of them to publish and distribute his series.  All we know is that St. John only published the first issue, and then Fago's own publishing company published Issue #s 2 and 3,, and then dropped the series.  But what is interesting, is that Al Fago was chief Editor of Children's Comics at Charlton, and HE had started Charlton's Casper clone in early 1956, "Timmy, The Timid Ghost".  And, he edited and drew that titles' books until he left Charlton in early 1958, and drew "Li'l Ghost" for St. John, and started Fago Brothers Studio up again (which was shut down while he was Children's book Editor and main artist at Charlton from 1953 to early 1958.  Pat Masulli took over that Charlton job when he left.  So, Fago probably came to St. John to shop his "new" series.  His artwork on "Li'l Ghost" was just the same as it was on Timmy, The Timid Ghost at Charlton.  Masulli's ghosts and witches look somewhat different, as did his background artwork.

(1) Front Cover - Drawn by Al Fago
This front cover is advertising the book's lead story.  But why does it have the bulldog puppy on it?  There is no dog in that story, or any other in this book.  Perhaps Fago originally planned to include that dog in one of the stories?

(2) Li'l Ghost and The Beanstalk - Written and drawn by Al Fago
This is the only "story" in this book that makes any sense, and is worth reading.  Li'l Ghost is reading "Jack and The Beanstalk", and gets tired and falls asleep.  Winifred Witch and an elf or gremlin, acquaintances of Li'l Ghost, see the book, and him sleeping, and decide to play a trick on him.  The witch puts a spell on some beans to make them grow a giant beanstalk high up into the sky, and places a fairy tale-style castle on the cloud at its top.  She then blows up a giant balloon, which looks like a Giant.  Winifred makes Li'l Ghost wake up, but when he sees the giant beanstalk, he thinks he must still be dreaming.  Believing it's only a dream, Li'l Ghost isn't scared to climb up to the top of the beanstalk, to see if there is a castle and a giant there.  Li'l Ghost enters the castle and sees the Giant balloon.  He grabs a spear and swings it towards the Giant.  Winifred and the gremlin climbed up onto the balloon, and instead of sticking the spear into the Giant, Li'l Ghost's swing cuts the rope that keeps the balloon from floating away up into the sky.  So, while Li'l Ghost runs down the beanstalk to go back to sleep, the balloon sails up into the sky, and the witch flips through her spell book for a spell that will KICK her, the next time she thinks of playing a trick on Li'l Ghost.

The whole story is based on using an ironic ending gag.  But, unfortunately, the gag is weakened, and doesn't work well, because she could simply get out of her problem by just looking for a magic spell that will bring the balloon back to the ground instantly and gently.  Carl Barks and other good writers wouldn't have had an easy fix available to her.  I'd have added a page or two starting off with the witch bringing up the idea of playing that very trick on Li'l Ghost to the Gremlin (who I would introduce with a name, in case I'd want to use him periodically in stories).  She wouldn't haver her magic spell book with her.  The Gremlin would ask her if she knew enough from memory to not need to look up the best spell in the book.  Then, at the end, when they are sailing away, out of control, and she tries to remember the exact wording of spells, saying them all wrong, and making their situation even worse, she could make the gag to remind her the next time to bring her spell book with her if she wants to play a trick.  She can then "up the ante" by saying "Never Mind THAT!  I'll need the book to find a spell to kick me HARD, the next time I think of playing a trick on Li'l Ghost!

(3) Li'l Ghost and Kewpie Ghost - Rain Gag - Written and Drawn by Al Fago
This gag with the little girl's father liking Li'l Ghost better than her last Ghostfriend, because he's so small that he'll have no trouble throwing him out of their house, is very unexpected, and deserves, at least, a little chuckle, in a gag that was looking way too mushy for little boys to enjoy.

(4) Donald, the Dense Li'l Ghost - Written and Drawn by Al Fago
What is funny about a pathetic imbecile???  This is not funny in the slightest.  It is very sad, to remember people who have had brain damage in an accident, act of violence from another, bad genes, or birth defects not allowing the brain to develop fully or properly.

(5) Li'l Ghost (and Tuffy) - Go Tell Him Off
This is also not funny at all.  A Ghost's Ghost son is a coward, and his father is worried about him.  The father gets a little bit of hope back that things aren't so bad when his son tells him that he didn't run away from the fight.  But he is crushed worse than before when the kid says he FLEW away.  Why make the protagonist of this series a coward, who makes light of being afraid of getting hurt by a bully, and almost seems proud about it, or, at least not worried about this chronic situation.  What kids would like to read about such a kid, who doesn't even try to do something about his problem (like asking his father to show him how to fight)?  So the father commands his son to go to the bully's house and tell him off - that he's not going to sit down and taker such treatment, but will stand up for himself and protect himself fighting back if the bully should try to intimidate him by hurting him physically.  But NO!!!  The author actually wants to glorify Li'l Ghost's cowardice.  And the 2nd half of this 6 page story is wasted by repeating the first totally unfunny "joke", having the kid fly to the other side of The World to call Tuffy from a telephone box in China to "tell him off".  This kind of writing is why I didn't bother even looking at this style of books.  Not only are the stories inane, but the artwork subpar, too, and often lousy.

(6) Tuffy, The Tough Li'l Ghost - I'm Enjoyin' This - Written and drawn by Al Fago
Obvious that "Tuffy" was patterned after Casper The friendly Ghost's tough character, "Spooky".  Tuffy and friends are watching a romantic film. All the Gang leave but Tuffy.  He says he's enjoying the film.  The punch line is that he was closing his eyes and imagining that the man was shaking the woman.  As Crash and others mentioned, I too think that makes no sense at all, and the original "joke" must have been changed.  But whatever it was, wouldn't have worked for me, or passed through the editors.

(7) Double Trouble - A Vision Of Poor Vision - Drawn by Frank Johnson
How many newspaper comic strips had this style of artwork and trouble-making pestering children frustrating their parents.  Were most or all of them trying to jump on the "Denis The Menace" bandwagon?  Tuffy and Snuffy?  How original!  A man has such bad vision that when a gas station attendant holds a hose in his direction, he thinks he's being robbed at gunpoint.  Not very funny.  I hope this author was a lot better than this gag.  Otherwise, how did he get a strip picked up by a newspaper, or even by a comic book publisher?

(8} Donald The Imbecile - More garbage -  Written by Al Fago???  I can't believe he was THIS bad!
We know why this series was stopped after 1 issue, and Fago couldn't find a publisher to take it on, so self-published it for 2 more issues and then gave up.

(9) Winnifred Witch - Cheaper By The Dozen - Written and Drawn by Al Fago
Now we have a Dense Witch!  would little kids laugh about a person who doesn't know how many a dozen is or needs to count her children to find out if she has a dozen of them (when she doesn't know how many a dozen is, anyway???)  This is just unbelievable.  When I was 6, or maybe even 5 years old, I'd have wondered: "do people like this really exist???"  Do story writers actually think this way???? 
This kind of tripe give children's comics a bad name.

(10) Double Trouble - Jus' An Ole Stooperstition - Drawn by Frank Johnson
I wonder how many people, nowadays, have ever heard or read the term, "Truant Officer"?

(11) Back to Imbecile Donald!
More wasted paper!

(12) Li'l Ghost - I learned My Lesson - Written and Drawn by Al Fago
Interesting idea that a Witch's broomstick that can do her bidding, not only has a brain, but it has a heart, too.  The joke gets a mild smile.

(13) Double Trouble - Daddy's Birthday - Drawn by Frank Johnson
Parents trying to make a little child guilty for not knowing when a particular date comes up on that day.  I never know what the day is OR the date. ;D  This short little story is funny, because you can remember when your own kids would have done and said the same things, and the situations are ironic.  It may not be pissing in your pants, rolling on the floor laughing funny, or holding your gut to keep from pulling a stomach muscle from violent laughing funny, but it's very nostalgic. 

Overall assessment
A waste of 10¢.  A waste of paper, and time reading it.  But it produced a smile or two.
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« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2025, 04:12:28 AM »

Li'l Ghost
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=65512

Not sure how we are supposed to interpret the cover. The dog is eyeing off the growing tree - which could make it quite rude?
Why are the 'beans' multicolored?
... and the Beanstalk. 
The Art is much better than I thought it would be.
Taking a Fairy story or a well-known or traditional narrative and creating a 'Riff' on it is a standard comedy technique, as is the practical jokers getting what's coming to them.
Enjoyed it.
The Kewpie Ghost.
Don't know why she is called 'Kewpie'
Not really funny Maybe the artist had a daughter and had experienced boyfriends that he didn't approve of?
Donald the dense Ghost.
Again, not funny. Strangely there is a mild nastiness to all the narratives in this book. If I was a parent and checking what my child was reading, I don't think I would let him read this. Maybe the artist didn't like the assignment and wanted off.   
Go tell him off!
Again, not funny and a damp squib of a punch-line.
Tuffy - the Tough little Ghost.
Brings back memories. I remember being in the Saturday afternoon Matinee when I WAS ABOUT 7 and the film was a  sob story. Several women left the theatre in tears. I was astounded! How could you be reduced to tears by a film? So fairly accurate behavior from male children. 
'Shakin' - why the confusion? The Black and white image makes it clear that he is envisioning the man shaking the girl. Another example of the over-all nastiness.   
Double Trouble.
Visual Slapstick,   Incidently. Mr Magoo is now considered offensive to the near-sighted, apparently.
Now I know
No comment.
Cheaper by the dozen.
I could tell this gag by Panel 3
Double Trouble (2)
Dull.
Donald (#3
Terrible Pun
I learned my lesson.
Made no real sense.
Daddy's Birthday.
Why is a little girl named Tuffy?
Not the worst gag but where was the other twin.
A very disappointing comic.   
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« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2025, 04:38:50 AM »

Stories By Famous Authors Illustrated #6
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=23420

Theatre people consider this the most unlucky play to ever perform.
The Macbeth Curse – “The Scottish Play”
https://folklore.usc.edu/theatrical-folklore-the-macbeth-curse-the-scottish-play/

Here are some examples of why.
The Macbeth Superstition
https://www.bellshakespeare.com.au/the-macbeth-superstition

So, very apt for a Halloween post.

To appreciate Shakespeare it helps to
1) Be introduced to his work at school with a good teacher.
2) To attend a performance - or failing that to watch a film. And there a number of very good Macbeth Films.
3) To enjoy language.
In 2021 - very few unfortunately are prepared to take the time to grapple with the unfamiliar language.
Really tho, the narrative is so clear that you don't need to   
This comics paraphrasing using  some 'modern' language makes the narrative easier to follow but the artwork doesn't add any understanding. Macbeth is - when done right - a very powerful story.
I think that a comic book version is a good way to get an audience interested in Shakespeare.
This story is one of the oldest Noir narratives and needs to be treated that way.
A pretty average re-telling of the narrative. Worth reading, but nothing special.
Typical for its day, tho.           

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Stories By Famous Authors Illustrated #6
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=23420

Theatre people consider this the most unlucky play to ever perform.
The Macbeth Curse – “The Scottish Play”
https://folklore.usc.edu/theatrical-folklore-the-macbeth-curse-the-scottish-play/

Here are some examples of why.
The Macbeth Superstition
https://www.bellshakespeare.com.au/the-macbeth-superstition

So, very apt for a Halloween post.

To appreciate Shakespeare it helps to
1) Be introduced to his work at school with a good teacher.
2) To attend a performance - or failing that to watch a film. And there a number of very good Macbeth Films.
3) To enjoy language.
In 2021 - very few unfortunately are prepared to take the time to grapple with the unfamiliar language.
Really tho, the narrative is so clear that you don't need to   
This comics paraphrasing using  some 'modern' language makes the narrative easier to follow but the artwork doesn't add any understanding. Macbeth is - when done right - a very powerful story.
I think that a comic book version is a good way to get an audience interested in Shakespeare.
This story is one of the oldest Noir narratives and needs to be treated that way.
A pretty average re-telling of the narrative. Worth reading, but nothing special.
Typical for its day, tho.           

Yes, it would be good to be introduced to Shakespeare's works from a good teacher, who loves it and its nuances and humour.  And I agree that the play is very "clean, and cut and dried.  No murkiness.  The events are clear and any wording not understood can be ignored and the gist will be understood.  The pictures are not even needed to understand it.  I had no trouble at all with Shakespearian English because it is a lot closer to the English I learned than Old English, and Scots, both of which I had a good head start in, as Old Dutch is very close to both, and Old Frisian is closer to Old English than Norwegian is to Swedish, or Portuguese is to Spanish.   They were more or less just dialectical differences.  The Angles were a sister tribe (or perhaps even the same tribe as the North Frisians who migrated to Britain's Northumbria and lowland Scotland from southwest Jutland (continental Denmark and Slesvik-Holstein), and The West Frisians from northern Netherlands settled in East Anglia.  I grew up learning Dutch and English, but also had to learn Frisian, because one of my best friends lived in Friesland, and later had to move into an all-Frisian speaking housing project, and most of them preferred not to speak Dutch.  Also, I lived on a farm in Friesland for 5 years, in my 20s, so I learned it fairly well.  I'm familiar with all of them, as they still exist in modern Frisian (and a good deal of them in Modern Dutch, too).  When reading Beowulf, I get the gist of it, maybe not understanding a few words and have a murky understanding of a sentence, here or there.  But with a Frisian-Dutch dictionary, I can understand everything.   So, most of the old-fashioned speech from Shakespeare's time related to old germanic vocabulary words or grammatical forms dropped in later English in favour of the French equivalents is no problem for me.  But, I can understand why the average modern, English speaker might not want to slog through it.

It may be an "average" telling of the story.  but it is certainly good "casual" introduction for a casual reader seeking entertainment.  It reminds me of the quality of the 1940s versions of "Classics Illustrated" which got me interested to read the actual, original full versions of many of those classic novels, novelettes, short stories and historical accounts.  I thought the artwork was quite good. 

I only have seen The 1948 film starring Orson Welles.  I thought it was decent enough.  No more "hammy" than most traditional stage plays.  I saw the stage play when our Junior High School had a "field trip" to a local theatre. 

I suppose they could have made it into a contemporary Noir film during the 1940s, simply changing the setting to the succession of rule in a kingdom in East Asia (Himalayas) or a banana republic (dictatorship) in South America, and changing the 3 Weird Sisters (prophets) to corrupt advisors (with their own agendas) and criminal syndicates involved.
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« Reply #36 on: November 09, 2025, 07:38:15 AM »

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I suppose they could have made it [Macbeth] into a contemporary Noir film during the 1940s, simply changing the setting to the succession of rule in a kingdom in East Asia (Himalayas) or a banana republic (dictatorship) in South America, and changing the 3 Weird Sisters (prophets) to corrupt advisors (with their own agendas) and criminal syndicates involved.

You remind me that in fact they did make Macbeth into a noir movie. I'd forgotten all about it. Joe Macbeth (1955) was a UK-made attempt to do Shakespeare as an American gangster story. I haven't seen it. I looked it up on IMDB where it got a 6.2 average rating. The summary reads:

Shakespeare (more-or-less) in a modern gangster setting. Lily Macbeth pushes her husband Joe to rub out the reigning crime boss and become the new kingpin himself. Success is short-lived, however, as he confronts Lennie, a mobster whose father and wife were Joe's murder victims.

According to one review, the three witches "are downsized to one, a has-been actress reduced to telling Tarot cards; her cauldron becomes a kettle where she boils chestnuts on a pushcart."

Now I want to track it down and give it a look.
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« Reply #37 on: November 09, 2025, 08:47:00 AM »

Joe Macbeth (ft. Ruth Roman) | Full Movie | Silver Scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-zI3ZjZFX4

The most recent Macbeth movie was made in 2015 starring Michael Fassbender.
I think that is somewhere on YouTube too.

Orson Wells did it - on YouTube also, and I'm going to have to watch that.
Macbeth 1948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8SokQT7dI

and that's only a few as IMDB points out.
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Browse 49 titles of movies and TV shows based on Shakespeare's tragedy Macbeth, from classic to contemporary versions. 

I think there is a Western Version too. 
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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2025, 02:25:31 PM »

Not just MacBeth, Shakespeare in general.  I take issue with panther's suggestions of, a good teacher, seeing a play or film.
At school in senior years, I had a very good English teacher who went into why Shakespeare was worthwhile.  I also saw 2 different plays at the prestigious Citizens Theatre in Glasgow, MacBeth being one of them. I left feeling bemused and  bored.
Despite a good teacher, Shakespeare simply left me confused and puzzled as to what was so great about it all.
I know that I'm in a minority, but not too small a minority.
Apart from Upstart Crow and a Doctor Who episode and comic, I'll leave it be.

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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2025, 07:43:48 PM »

At school we studied Macbeth which I really rather liked ...  then for my next exams we did Hamlet ... which I totally detested (and still do) ... I hated him as a character and to be honest our teachers ... we even went to the theatre and watched Derek Jacobi play him.

A bit later when in my early 20's I was forced to watch a stage performance of Midsummer Nights Dream ... and I thought it was really cool.

I really ought to have a go at King Lear, I keep meaning to. As to Shakespeare's "greatness" I am not so sure, a while back I read Samuel Pepys Diaries and here on 29 September 1662 was his attitude:

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"I sent for some dinner and there dined, Mrs. Margaret Pen being by, to whom I had spoke to go along with us to a play this afternoon, and then to the King’s Theatre, where we saw “Midsummer’s Night’s Dream,”

A romantic comedy written sometime in the 1590s. It portrays the adventures of four young Athenian lovers and a group of amateur actors, their interactions with the Duke and Duchess of Athens, Theseus and Hippolyta, and with fairies who inhabit a moonlit forest. which I had never seen before, nor shall ever again, for it is the most insipid ridiculous play that ever I saw in my life. I saw, I confess, some good dancing and some handsome women, which was all my pleasure."

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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2025, 01:25:02 AM »

Air Fighters Comics #12

Misery! (Airboy)
Interesting villain, although I'm wondering about his motivation. You'd think if he came back from the dead he might go first after the natives who murdered him rather than other pilots. Also why spare the German planes, but just destroy the RAF planes?

Skywolf vs. the Crow
Interesting choice of hat there, Skywolf.

All that buildup and the Baron Krau goes down too easily. I wonder if he returns at a later point?

Pvt. Skinny McGinty
Another victim of the war's comedy shortage.

Iron Ace
A pilot in armor? Okaaaaayyy...

I believe there was a former knight turned author who wrote a story about being a knight and how when the armor was taken off the knight was covered in rust from the sweat and heat.

Footballs and Bullets
Okay.

Bald Eagle
Okay.

Just an odd thought. If this story were written around 30 years later, they'd probably say it's in the Bermuda Triangle, but that term wasn't around, or common parlance, in the 1940s.

The Black Angel
Good story.

The Flying Dutchman
Interesting.


Ghost Rider #1

The Ghost Rider
Interesting that ghosts play an actual part in his origin rather than a guy just dressing in white to scare criminals. Also funny that he rides a horse named Spectre since DC had a ghostly hero named The Spectre (although The Spectre's original run may have ended before this story).

The Fire Ghost!
Okay story, but what if he actually went up against an Indian spirit?

The Saga O' Sagebrush Sam
Eh.

Spook Justice?
Cute. I liked that the henchmen were given personalities and weren't just nameless mooks.

The Haunted Hills
Okay.

A Trap For Nemesis!
Spectre is lucky not to have broken his legs in that fall, or the strain on his spine from the additional weight of Ghost Rider on his back.


Li'l Ghost

Li'l Ghost and the Beanstalk
Cute.

As Pleased As Punch
So how big was Kewpie's ex-ghostfriend? It's said he was a giant, but somehow he fit into the house.

Donald the Dense Li'l Ghost
Since Donald & Li'l Ghost were in the rain I was expecting the joke to be about them growing.

Go Tell Him Off
Usually leaving a fight is considered a loss, Li'l Ghost, whether you run or fly.

Dippy the Spook
Different.

I'm Enjoyin' This
Yeahhhh... he's the only one.

A Vision of Poor Vision
Probably would have been better if it had been done from the man's point of view rather than 2 kids commenting on it.

Now I Know
So Donald only sleeps for 2 hours?

Cheaper by the Dozen
Usually witches in fiction eat children, so the implication that Winifred is a mom was odd. Although even odder, the artist doesn't even show us her children.

Jus' An Ole Stooperstition
Well, even if Tuffy had avoided walking under the ladder they still would have been caught.

Donald the Dense Li'l Ghost
Apparently Donald didn't read the sign.

I Learned My Lesson
Broomsticks are alive in this reality???

Daddy's Birthday
So Tuffy's mother didn't remind Tuffy that her daddy's birthday was coming up?


Stories by Famous Authors Illustrated #6

Macbeth
Nice.

Three text articles
Interesting tidbits

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The origin of Airboy's supernatural villain Misery.

I have perused a great deal of what's on offer on CB+ but Air Fighters Comics is one I have avoided.
I was first made aware of it when (First Comics?) revived the character in the 70's. I could never understand why. Having characters with superhero names and in costumes involved in Air WarFare in WWII was a bridge too far for me.

Eclipse Comics and I think it was the 1980s.

I think it just goes to show how big superheroes were in the 1940s, even non-superhero genres were adopting the elements..

Then again the proto-superheroes of the pulps (Zorro, The Scarlet Pimpernel, The Shadow, etc.) also had superhero elements, so maybe the creators of Air Fighters Comics grew up reading G-8 and His Battle Aces and other 1930s air pulps?


Scrounge and Crash can tell us about their towns in The US.

One of my oldest memories is wearing a Ben Cooper Astronaut costume (Ben Cooper was a company that sold various costumes in the US). Mainly the neighborhood kids would just wander up and down the street doing trick or treat. Oddly enough I don't think we ever went over to the next street to get more goodies. *shrug* One year I thought I would go up and down the street wearing a second costume to get more candy, but I don't think I actually did it.

While I heard about kids TPing or egging houses I don't remember it actually happening in my neighborhood.

I do remember my parents being worried and checking my Halloween candy, especially the Pixie Sticks, which was no doubt because of the father who murdered his son with a poisoned Pixie Stick in 1974.

School would have costume parties. One year, 3rd or 4th grade, the 'Great Pumpkin' visited our class (probably a teacher wearing a black body suit and a pumpkin headpiece). One odd thing about that was that she mentioned Linus, I don't remember if she had a reason for why she didn't visit him, but in retrospect it's amusing to think what a piece of work the Great Pumpkin is, ignoring a loyal believer freezing in a pumpkin patch all night while dropping in on a classroom of children who were never expecting to meet her.  ;)

Were there any good Halloween stories from Eisner's Spirit Comics?

I tried looking, but ran out of time. October was a lot busier than usual.
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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2025, 02:22:57 AM »

Sorry I'm a bit late to the party, but I just have a couple of things to throw in about Shakespeare.

Mark, good luck with King Lear. We had to study that in senior English at school and the teachers took us to see a production of it. (I suspect the reason they picked that play was solely because they knew it was one of the Queensland Theatre Company's productions that year.) Forty-seven years later, I'm still recovering from a very realistic portrayal of Regan gouging out the king's eyes and throwing them onto the stage. A real 'Eeww!!!" moment. Maybe I need Critical Incident Stress Debriefing.  ;)

And Paw, I have one other Shakespeare adaptation I think you could add to your list along with Dr Who and Upstart Crow. Did you know that the 1950s sci-fi classic 'Forbidden Planet' is a revisioning of 'The Tempest'? I even did an assignment for a creative writing class a few years ago in which I compared the two. 'Forbidden Planet' is infinitely better  :D Here's the trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxQ9GG6hUDM

Cheers

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Re: Reading Group #361 - Halloween-ish
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2025, 08:16:37 AM »

Mystery Science Theatre 3000 riffed a movie version of Hamlet (I think it was a German production dubbed into English.)

The TV show Moonlighting did The Taming of the Shrew as an episode entitled Atomic Shakespeare.

Gilligan's Island staged part of a Shakespeare play (forget which play.)
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« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2025, 04:42:07 AM »


Mystery Science Theatre 3000 riffed a movie version of Hamlet (I think it was a German production dubbed into English.)

The TV show Moonlighting did The Taming of the Shrew as an episode entitled Atomic Shakespeare.

Gilligan's Island staged part of a Shakespeare play (forget which play.)


Well SuperScrounge, I thought I had seen every Gilligan's Island episode 10 times when I was a kid, but I didn't remember that one and had to go searching. A musical version of Hamlet  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKMOClN9ITg

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