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Re: Thor Complete Collection

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Jerry V

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« on: October 02, 2021, 04:30:02 PM »

Wow! Excellent! Thank you, FraBig!

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FraBig

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2021, 04:48:32 PM »

You're welcome! I'm happy you enjoyed this compilation, I really have fun making these.
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paw broon

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2021, 06:34:49 PM »

Keep going FraBig.  Good stuff.  I'm happy.
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Robb_K

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2021, 09:33:10 PM »

Interesting art and stories from the dawn of comic books.  Pretty crude artwork, that was fairly common back in those days.
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FraBig

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 02:58:42 PM »

Thanks guys. It always surprises me how much Fox's Thor and Marvel's Thor are similar: long blonde hair, no beard, the fact he throws the hammer and it can return to him, the fact that he's a mortal to which Thor gives his powers (like Donald Blake)...

There are just so many common points, I wonder if Stan Lee or Jack Kirby read this Fox issues and then re-elaborated them when thinking about Marvel's Thor. I mean, Jack was even working for Fox in that period on the Blue Bolt, he may have heard or even read this comic written by one of his colleagues.
But this is just mere speculation.
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The Australian Panther

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 11:34:00 PM »

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I wonder if Stan Lee or Jack Kirby read this Fox issues and then re-elaborated them when thinking about Marvel's Thor. I mean, Jack was even working for Fox in that period on the Blue Bolt, he may have heard or even read this comic written by one of his colleagues. 

Oh, I have no doubt, but I would point at Stan Lee and the publisher, Martin Goodman rather than Jack. It's clear to me that they grabbed every PD name and concept that they could and recycled them to create Marvel comics.

Not criticism, just facts. 

Cheers!
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FraBig

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 12:47:31 PM »

Yes, that's a fair point. Stan was definitely more likely to have recycled the concept, however, I still wonder how he came into contact with these stories, they weren't definitely the best-selling and most famous Fox stories (unlike Blue Beetle and Blue Bolt), and Thor similar to the Marvel one appears only for a few issues out of all of his appearances (which are just 5 issues in total).
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The Australian Panther

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 12:22:42 AM »

Re Thor and borrowed Ideas.
Oh, I think
One:- Stan had to have been an avid reader. Had to have been to get the ideas for all the stories he wrote.
And I've been looking at many old Atlas books recently. He wrote a lot of stories.
Obviously with the help, at times of some of the artists.   
 
Two:- In any business, it makes sense to keep an eye on what the competition is doing.
Just look at DC and Marvel from 1960 onward. One publisher does something, the other publisher copies it. Just like Movie companies or TV companies. Monkey see, Monkey Do.
Kirby recycled his own work mostly, not that of others.
Hey, thought! Kirby worked for the company that published  the original Thor. Maybe it was his idea in the first place?
Stop the  presses. Research is wonderful! Answer to the question. Yep! it was Kirby's idea.
Here is Kirby doing Thor - for DC! a few Years before!
  See Thor And His Hammer In a DC Comic Years Before Journey Into Mystery #83
https://www.cbr.com/thor-hammer-dc-comic-jack-kirby/
Wow! that has made my day!
What really blows me away about that story, just look at that hammer! That is totally Marvel Thor's hammer! 
And it seems I know something that the writer of this piece on Wikipedia doesn't.
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The Warriors Three are a group of fictional characters appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. The characters served as supporting cast members in Thor. The Warriors Three are the Asgardians Fandral, Hogun, and Volstagg. Though the characters are gods of Asgard, they are original creations of Marvel Comics and not based on characters from Norse mythology. 

These characters are based on a group of characters from Shakespeare's Henry the Fifth.  They were drinking companions of the King when he was a prince. Sound familiar? Volstagg is based on Falstaff.
Love to know if it was Kirby or Lee who read Shakespeare. I suspect Lee, given the prose style he used on Thor.
Cheers, and happy reading!

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crashryan

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Re: Thor Complete Collection
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 01:49:24 AM »

I always found it funny that in the origin story's last panel Thor's name, in huge type, was misspelled. Maybe Artie Simek or Sam Rosen was so used to lettering the silly names of Kirby monsters that THORR!!! seemed natural.
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