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Yoc's Upload Thread - redux

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Yoc

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Re: Yoc's Upload Thread - redux
« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2010, 08:00:23 AM »

Found some Quality books that were missing -
Modern Comics 072 (paper+fiche)-c2c
Modern Comics 101
Hit Comics 047 -c2c
Doll Man 022
Doll Man 012


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« Reply #101 on: January 14, 2010, 04:06:35 AM »

Found some more scary precode goodies floating out there that we needed -
Weird Mysteries 003 (no ads)
Web of Evil 002 (33pgs-coverless)
Journey Into Fear 010 (no ads)
Police Comics 006 (paper)
Black Magic 011 (v02 05)


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« Reply #102 on: January 18, 2010, 07:30:57 AM »

Found some Lev Gleason CDNP precode goodies on DoorTree's blog
and reuploaded #49 as it was already up incorrectly labelled as #47 -
Crime Does Not Pay 043 (incomplete)-26pgs
Crime Does Not Pay 045 (incomplete)-32pgs
Crime Does Not Pay 049 -Darkmark
Crime Does Not Pay 057 (missing pg30)-43pgs


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« Reply #103 on: January 20, 2010, 08:11:31 AM »

Another amazing cull from Mr DoorTree's fantastic blog I highly recommend!

Spirit Section 1940-12-15 (Minneapolis Star Journal)


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« Reply #104 on: January 20, 2010, 10:43:49 PM »

Spirit Section 1940-12-15


Yoc, as much as I LOVE The Spirit and I LOVE seeing it online, I have to ask: Is it actually in the Public Domain?

Eisner was very protective of his properties (I know from personal experience dealing with him) and I have to believe his estate or whoever now owns the rights to The Spirit is just as protective. Has anyone vetted the rights to this strip/character?

--Ken Q

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« Reply #105 on: January 21, 2010, 06:34:34 AM »

I'm going on previous accepted Spirit Sections being vetted by Aussie so I hope so Ken.
Aussie and JohnC are our 'experts' on the question.  I hope they can reply.

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« Reply #106 on: January 21, 2010, 12:48:42 PM »

When I looked, I didn't find any renewals for anything referring to the Spirit, and very few of the original inserts carry a copyright statement at all.  Granted, that's not 100% conclusive, for a variety of reasons, when it's every single issue over an extended period, the probability of a misfile is pretty low.

If anybody has an idea on where to look beyond "I think he would've done it," I'd be glad to hear it and check it out when I have time.  But based on the CCE renewals, if Eisner or his estate were/are blocking people from reprinting the issues, it's not because of copyright.

Also, keep in mind that there's no legal problem with claiming you own a copyright on something in the public domain.  And prior to all the records being put online, what layman would dare challenge a Cease and Desist from Will Eisner?  The common wisdom has always been that the creators would know better what they do and don't own.

I'm not saying he was defrauding people, by any means.  But I am saying that, for example, if he mistakenly confused copyrights with his trademark, no fanzine would challenge him on it.  That doesn't mean he had standing, though, if he took it to court.
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« Reply #107 on: January 21, 2010, 12:49:28 PM »

I'm going on previous accepted Spirit Sections being vetted by Aussie so I hope so Ken.


I hope so too, Yoc. I love that so many more people can be exposed to The Spirit if it's available online. But to be honest, I don't see how it's NOT under copyright to Eisner's estate (or whoever). As far as I know, he never let the copyright lapse.

I just did a quick check of my copy of 1965 THE GREAT COMIC BOOK HEROES by Jules Feiffer, which was one of the first reprints of a Spirit story. Right along with all the other copyrights is Eisner's copyright on The Spirit. Starting with the Harvey reprints in 1966, The Spirit has been in print off-and-on since. Each time carrying Eisner's copyright.

Perhaps there's a loophole that I'm not aware of (a very distinct possibility--I'm not a copyright lawyer), but unfortunately, I kinda doubt it.

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« Reply #108 on: January 22, 2010, 01:17:32 AM »

I looked at a few Spirit sections and they all had Arnold copyright which was transferred to Eisner. Makes me suspect they were renewed but do not know why it does not show up.
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« Reply #109 on: January 22, 2010, 06:21:46 AM »

Sounds like we'll keep them online until someone can point to something conclusive.  If the Eisner estate contacts us we'll certainly read what they have to say with interest.

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« Reply #110 on: January 22, 2010, 11:25:03 AM »

Probably worse that would (not could) happen is a cease and desist order. I would say that this overall group has been primary purchasers of the material reprinted even if available here. I think we could show that the site has probably done more to promote the sale of the reprint material, and increased those sales than decreased them.
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« Reply #111 on: January 22, 2010, 01:03:03 PM »


I looked at a few Spirit sections and they all had Arnold copyright which was transferred to Eisner. Makes me suspect they were renewed but do not know why it does not show up.


Can you point me there?  As mentioned, when I looked, I only saw rare copyright statements (a requirement for copyright) and no renewals for Eisner (as a "contribution to periodicals") or as a "Spirit" periodical during the relevant renewal periods.

If you have something valid, it might mean that I looked in the wrong spot.  I'm OK being wrong on this, but without a paper trail, I don't see how this situation is different than "DC bought Fawcett, so none of those comics can be public domain--it just makes sense."
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« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2010, 08:49:35 PM »

New Quality from OldWayne -
Kid Eternity #04 [Winter'47]-52pg-c2c     -OldWayne
Kid Eternity #09 [Spring'48]-52pg-c2c     -OldWayne
Kid Eternity #11 [Sep'48]-52pg-c2c     -OldWayne

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« Reply #113 on: February 01, 2010, 05:17:44 PM »

New Quality from Flatterman -

Plastic Man #001 [Aug'41]-60pg-c2c     -Flatterman
Plastic Man #023 [May'50]-36pg-c2c     -Flatterman

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