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Reading Group #370 - Early 20th Century Cartoon Books

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The Australian Panther

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Re: Reading Group #370 - Early 20th Century Cartoon Books
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2026, 03:03:51 AM »

The Rejuvenation of Mama and Papa Goose
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The drawings show the background of the beginning of The 1900s, along with dress of the people, sand a bit about how life was (especially in High Society). Papa is quite a sport.

The prevalence of that in cartooning of that period, makes me think, that that was the world that those artists were part of.
Unfortunately the scan seems to be just a little off, which makes it hard to read.

Morris H. Pancoast - Career.
It interests me that when an artist goes on to have a career in the fine art world, any biography downplays their history as a cartoonist. 

Page 8 - first two panels.
Panel one
Mama says 'He is not!
Panel 2, -Talking apparently to her daughter who is strangely, human, 'Papa just hates such affairs'
We haven't yet heard from papa.
Panel 3. 'People think we're just in a book' Breaking the forth wall.
Panel 2 Page 15.
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Chanticleer is a name or a character in various works of fiction, arts, sports, and places. It may also refer to a rooster, a vocal ensemble, a magazine, or a ship.

Pretty sure here its meant to be Rooster, so we have a human with a bird's name.
The dance instructor is 'Madam Peacock'
Apparently in that social circle anything is permissible,'If it's for charity'   
They both keep lying to each other, but he is the Hypocrite?
They are both geese, but he is going to buy a youngster?
Fat Goose. Goose Fat?
'Jimminy Crickets.'
So that was an expression by 1918, and Disney borrowed it?
A baby goose, ( A gosling) can go into water and drown?
A very strange book.
The moral is, and I can't help myself, Papa is a goose!
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Re: Reading Group #370 - Early 20th Century Cartoon Books
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2026, 12:35:34 AM »

A Little Bird Told Me!

Cute. A fun little book.

Some of the single cartoon pages are odd. Almost like the person doing the paste-ups thought there was supposed to be two cartoons, but they couldn't find a second cartoon to fit so they just left the high-posted cartoon rather than centering it on the page.


Chasing the Blues

Interesting to see these early works where newspaper cartoons were kind of in flux and learning what works and what doesn't. If I recall correctly in an article on his early stuff his 'real estate' on the page was one big central piece surrounded by four smaller pieces like the Foolish Questions. The text pieces seem like something that was acceptable at the time, but later comics editors would demand pictures. I guess his first 'recurring character' is the 'I'm the Guy' guy.

On page 5 I had to laugh at how something looked to me for a second. In panel 2 Rube shaded the figure holding the candles and the hand and arm holding the rope looked like something inappropriate.


The Rejuvenation of Mama and Papa Goose

Mama Goose Has An Idea
Okay.

Papa Learns a New Step - So Does Mama
Nice follow up to the previous chapter/story.

Chastity Covers a Multitude of Sins
So did Mama set a trap for Papa?

A Christmas Surprise for Mama - and Papa
So if a human had bought Baby and he cooked it up, society would be fine with that?

Mama and Papa at the Show
Dick and Mr. Brown looked too similar. The artist should have made them look noticably different.

Papa's Golf Game is a "Dream"
The title spoils the ending.

Papa Makes a Home Run
Cute.

Interesting book. Some of the stories are signed, but others aren't which makes me think that this could be a collection of previously printed stories rather than done originally for this book.

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Morris H. Pancoast - Career.
It interests me that when an artist goes on to have a career in the fine art world, any biography downplays their history as a cartoonist.

Downplays implies a conscious choice to hide it, where it is possible the cartoonist's career just wasn't that big. I remember trying to find info on a guy who had a cartoon published in an early issue of the Saturday Evening Post and did an internet search and turned up an artist who was known for illustrating fish for a maritime museum. Same guy? No idea. If it was his museum career happened shortly after the cartoon was published and he may have had a career of one published cartoon.  ;)

On the other hand there were comic book artists who definitely tried to hide their 'shameful' past.

So was it 'downplayed' or just not a significant part of his career? We may never know.

'Jimminy Crickets.'
So that was an expression by 1918, and Disney borrowed it?

I thought Disney got Jiminy Cricket from the book Pinocchio. (Although Disney did more with him than the author did as book Jiminy got squished early on.)
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