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Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season

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The Australian Panther

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Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« on: December 08, 2025, 01:34:55 AM »

Hoo Boy!
The problem is, life always gets in the way.
I won't have access to a computer on the 22nd but I had some Christmas books ready to go so I swapped with QQ. But, in the meantime, my computer crashed - that made 2 of them. So I am posting this in my local library.
When you search for Christmas books on CB+ you dont get many results and we have used most of them, so I searched for 'Reindeer' and got  couple of hits but the links are on the computer that crashed, so I've searched again, but this time those hits didn't come up. Peculiar.
So here are my posts, not the ones I had selected originally.
1/ This I had selected.
Turns out that the final issue of Adventures in Wonderland was a Christmas book.
Adventures in Wonderland 5
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=16673   
2/ Some comics also had Christmas stories.
Here are a couple.
  Giggle Comics 37
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=70602 
Ha Ha Comics 49
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=68017

Enjoy, and a cool yule to all of you.
Probably wont hear from me for a few days.

     
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2025, 03:05:57 AM »

The Giggle and Ha Ha issues are a couple of my favourites, with stories drawn by some of the best Sangor Studio artists like Disney's Ken Hultgren, Jack Bradbury, Gil Turner, Don R. Christensen, Al Hubbard, Jim Davis, and Owen Fitzgerald, as well as by Don Benedict.  I especially like The Duke and The Dope, Spencer Spook, and Superkatt stories. 

The Adventures in Wonderland Issue #5 is interesting because of its terribly unprofessional artwork, looking like the stories were drawn by 7 year olds.  No surprise that GCD has no credits listed for any of the stories.  The only professional-looking artwork in the book is the front cover, drawn by Myron Fass, and the Contents page border Christmas Elf drawings, drawn by Peter Morisi.  Apparently, Lev Gleason ran out of money and couldn't afford to contract Comic House to draw its stories, as he did for Issues # 1-4.  So, he had his grandchildren (or reader contest winners!) draw them  :P 
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2025, 04:20:23 AM »

Adventures In Wonderland #5

Elmo's First Christmas
It happened on Sesame Street... oops! Wrong Elmo.  ;)

Should come with a disclaimer reading, "Any resemblance to Dumbo is purely coincidental. Honest!"

I think the artist used Quality's The Barker as a reference for his circus folk. Not direct copies since fat ladies and strongmen are common motifs, but derby-wearing midgets smoking cigars doesn't seem that common.

Magic? Well I guess that's why they called the mouse Merlin.

Seems like a quickly dashed off story.


Santa's in a Dilemma
Why is toy production always held up just before Christmas in these stories? They have a whole year to work on these things, logically most of the toys should have been finished and wrapped by now and they should have realized they were running short on paint before the last few hours.

Santa has a board of directors??? Santa's not a business, he doesn't make money, why does he need a board of directors?

I wonder how many children choked on eating their Christmas toys. Hope there were no lead soldiers mixed in with the tin soldiers.


The Lucky Silver Dollar
Not great, but not terrible. The lack of dialogue distanced me from the story.


The Man Who Didn't Believe In Christmas
Now this is interesting. While obviously based on Dickens, it takes a different direction to get to the same ending. I wonder if it was done that way because straight adaptations were considered too common, or if the writer didn't like the supernatural elements and wanted a more realistic version?

While I liked the new elements, Scrounge's change seemed too drastic in so short a story.


A Rebellion in Toyland
Vive la revolution! Paint will be spilled, stuffing will be scattered, toy on toy violence!  ;)

Kind of a dull story. If Tawny didn't want to be a toy, why didn't he sneak out of Toyland on his own?


The Troubador
Didn't troubadors play for money? Laurence really doesn't seem to understand the importance of money.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2025, 09:07:19 AM »

It's my favourite time of year! But will this volume of Wonderland be a bit more impressive than the one I chose for teh last reading group?

Elmo's First Christmas
Well I guess when you can't find time or dialogue to make a plot happen, just throw magic into the mix and say he can fly, shrink or whatever. Still it's a wholesome Christmas message and I'm a sucker for those.

Santa's in a Dilemma
Another tried and tested story formula, even back then I expect. It's short, colourful and fun. What kid doesn't understand the fear of not getting toys for Christmas? And the last panel is quite witty.

The Man Who Didn't Believe In Christmas Victorian aesthetics have always captured my interest. Mister Scrooge, oops I mean Scrounge is true to form here. I didn't feel the event that turned him good was very profound but another nice outcome with some great drawing.

A Rebellion in Toyland
The weakest story in my view although the line "Might be one of those annoying roll calls" did make me chuckle.

The Troubador

A man who had values and family values at that! A good story.

Thank you for the festive picks TAP! I hope your tech issues are fixed soon and I'll be back before Christmas.



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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2025, 10:26:25 PM »


It's my favourite time of year! But will this volume of Wonderland be a bit more impressive than the one I chose for the last reading group?

Elmo's First Christmas
Well I guess when you can't find time or dialogue to make a plot happen, just throw magic into the mix and say he can fly, shrink or whatever. Still it's a wholesome Christmas message and I'm a sucker for those.

Santa's in a Dilemma
Another tried and tested story formula, even back then I expect. It's short, colourful and fun. What kid doesn't understand the fear of not getting toys for Christmas? And the last panel is quite witty.

The Man Who Didn't Believe In Christmas Victorian aesthetics have always captured my interest. Mister Scrooge, oops I mean Scrounge is true to form here. I didn't feel the event that turned him good was very profound but another nice outcome with some great drawing.

A Rebellion in Toyland
The weakest story in my view although the line "Might be one of those annoying roll calls" did make me chuckle.

The Troubador

A man who had values and family values at that! A good story.

Thank you for the festive picks TAP! I hope your tech issues are fixed soon and I'll be back before Christmas.

This issue of "Adventures in Wonderland" WON'T be more impressive than the issue you chose, as the issue you chose had mainly average or well-drawn stories.  Whereas ALL the stories in this issue are poorly-drawn, to the point of looking VERY unprofessional. 
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SuperScrounge

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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2025, 10:42:12 PM »

Giggle Comics #37

Superkatt
Okay story.

The Snake and the Stocking
With a title like that I was thinking more along the 'unpleasant surprise' type of tale.  ;)

While not great, I did like the sweetness and the humor.

The Duke and the Dope
Why does the Duke hang around with such a stupid person who can't even follow the Duke's explanation of the plan? A little dumbness is fine, but too much just becomes unbelievable.

The Little Light
Eh. Could have been better.

Spencer Spook
Weird.

Binky
Uhhhh... interesting idea.

Potsy
So why can't Herbert hurt Potsy? Is this a backstory from a previous story?

Uncle Ringo
Okay.

The Wonderful Skates
I think the writer just gave up on trying to write something believable.

Lionel
Did the Dodo write this story?

Northern Nonsense
Title sums it up.  ;)
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The Australian Panther

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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2025, 01:42:27 AM »

Adventures in Wonderland 5
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=16673
For some reason,
these are not in the order laid out on page 2.
Elmo's first Christmas
How do Elephants sleep anyway?
No the art isn't top quality, but neither is it by any means the worst I have seen.
The artist does manage to make ELMO a sympathetic character.
If this comic was aimed at small children, I think they would have identified with ELMO. Rejection hits pretty hard, especially for the young.
Santa's in a Dilemma
Santa calls Board Meetings?
The methodology for making colors is not far from what artists originally did to make colors for paintings.
Mind you the melted sugar might have been a problem.
Good story to make the children think about colors.
The man who didn't believe in Christmas.
Um, 'Mr Scrounge'?  ::) ::) ::)
Variation on 'A Christmas Carol'  It would be nice to write something that was still being read 100 years later.
"Thinking of other people will always bring fun and joy"
Well, doing something good for other people, maybe."
A rebellion in Toyland.
Well of course he's a Siamese Cat!
Not much i want to say about this one.
The Troubadour
Classic Fairytale format.
Keeping your word and being faithful to your loved ones is more important?
Decorate the tree
The toys won't fit in the designated spaces.  Some readers would have been disappointed.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2025, 10:51:51 PM »

Giggle Comics 37
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=70602
That cover, with the predominant white and black, would have grabbed your attention on the newsstand.
Superkatt on the cover and the first story is
SUPERKATT.
Why he is dressed like a baby I don't know. I'm not familiar with Giggle comics.
Classic Funny Animal Cartoony art. good stuff.
Excellent story, a happy ending but with a sting in the tail.
Human nature isn't changed that easily. 
The Snake and the stocking
I prefer not to review text pieces, but since I only want to talk about the Christmas stories and there are only two, I will do so.       
Moral. 
share your problems with somebody else and you may solve more than one problem.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2025, 11:17:00 PM »

Ha Ha Comics 49
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Looking at the cover, I find myself wondering just what age group these were aimed at.
preadolescent but probably intended to be bought by mum and dad.
Shilly and Shally
In all these stories,
Santa is a real character and an actual part of the story.
"For 1947 years I've delivered presents to people"
So Santa's career only started in the 20th Century?
Like the 'Giggle comics' story, there is a sting in the tail. 
Blitzen Jr.
I always defend the comics by pointing out that they teach as well as entertain.
This story is a good example. The jobs he applies for and didn't get - information to be taken in and stored by children. 
I learned as much about the world from Carl Barks and W.E. Johns (Biggles, Worrals and Gimlet) than I did at school and was entertained. Which is more than I could say for school most of the time.
Cheers,
Have a great time of the season with your family and friends.
I'm still at the library,
so won't be as regular as I usually am.       



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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2025, 01:31:30 AM »

Adventures in Wonderland #5

After its unimpressive debut in the previous Reading Group, Adventures in Wonderland has become even less impressive.

Elmo's First Christmas steals story points and character design from Dumbo. But you know, Dumbo was 15 years old at the time. It had appeared in edited form on the Disneyland TV show in late 1955. Before that it hadn't been in theaters since 1949. Given that TV ownership was still low, it's quite possible that most of the Adventures in Wonderland readers had never seen the movie and wouldn't recognize the similarities. It's equally possible that the scriptwriter had seen the movie and may have been inspired by the TV re-release to plagiarize it.

As the Panther noted, the theme of rejection would have resonated with kids. Considering that the adults turn out to be sending Elmo away just so they can prepare a surprise party for him, their words are unnecessarily cruel.

From out of left field the Deus ex Machina Plotting Service provides Elmo the power of flight and off he goes. Flight is nothing, though, compared to the twist on our page 7, when Elmo suddenly reveals that he can shrink to cookie size and grow back at will. In the words of ten thousand Golden Age comic book heroes, "What th'--?!"

The artwork is pretty sad, though I think "A Rebellion in Toyland" is worse.

Something about Santa's in a Dilemma reminds me of the Peter Pester story in issue #1. I think it's the corporate vibe. Production concerns, board of directors, that sort of thing. The solution to S.C.'s dilemma is pretty far-fetched but the final page is a real head-scratcher. The problem was that toys were already built but the elves lacked paint. They made paint from melted candy. The final panel says that the toys have somehow become candy. Either there was off-screen magic or the kids will get a rude surprise when they gnaw into the wood under the candy.

A Rebellion in Toyland: WTF??? I can't imagine what the writer had in mind when he came up with this one. It seems that rather than being Santa's domain, Toyland is ruled by a two-bit authoritarian who gripes about "insubordination" among his subjects. Tawny the Siamese cat--is he a real cat, or a toy cat?--is chosen as a Christmas gift for a human child. This ticks him off and and he decides to launch an armed insurrection. Why, exactly? The other Toylanders, especially our hero Skippy the clown, seem to regard being chosen as a good thing. Is Tawny angry because he was commanded to go rather than being asked? His motivation isn't all that's vague. There's also the matter of the Toylanders' ever-changing accents. Among others we get Hepcat, Albert-the-Alligator Cornpone Drawl, and Bowery Boys-Meets-Collegiate. Finally, our hero saves the day by dropping explosives on a trainful of toys. Then he threatens to blow up the survivors. Just why the rebels wanted to hijack the train isn't clear.

A bit of dialogue also had me scratching my head. On our page 26, panels 3 and 4. Turtle says to Tawny the Siamese Cat, "If this plan fizzles out, it's back to Siam for you." I thought the cat, like the rest of the toys, was "born" (manufactured) in Toyland. Is the turtle implying that Tawny is an immigrant subject to deportation? Between this and the threat to blow up the train wreck survivors, Tawny's crew sounds remarkably up to date.

One last thing: the rebels' marching chant in panel 5. These are the opening lines of "Honey-Babe," Art Mooney's 1954 hit record. The song sounded like it was sung by a group of drunken sailors. The somewhat risque lyrics celebrated womanizing--except for the last verse, which celebrated passing out drunk. A typical verse goes:

Never saw a dame so large
Honey, honey
Broader than a landing barge
Babe, babe
For kissing her they gave to me
The purple heart for bravery
Honey, oh, baby, mine


The kiddies reading this comic certainly may have heard the song on the radio. But it seems an odd choice to reference in a Code-approved kids' comic published by "The Junior Readers' Guild."

Of course the Junior Readers' Guild just was another of Lev Gleason's publishing companies. He probably named it that to suggest wholesome content to skittish distributors. I'm not sure what advantage comics publishers got from creating lots of different companies for what was really one operation. Tax breaks? Paper allotments? Dodging creditors? Whatever the reason, everybody seems to have done it during the Golden Age.

I wonder if part of the reason Adventures in Wonderland is such a dud is because Lev Gleason was editor as well as publisher. Most of his successful titles were edited by Charles Biro. Could be that Gleason wasn't so hot as an editor.

I'll be honest. After these stories I threw up my hands and just skimmed the others. They seemed harmless enough. Not interesting enough for detailed reviews.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2025, 07:58:27 AM »

Ha Ha Comics #49

Izzy & Dizzy
Just a guess, but I think the writer was really annoyed at TV commercials.

How The Turtle Got His Shell - Teepee Tim
Nice story and art.

Two-Way Trouble
Nice ending.

Shilly and Shally
Cute.

Trunkline to Safety
Okay.

Blitzen Jr.
Cute.  ;D

Robespierre
LOL!

Surprise Package
Okay.

I've heard that older comics had to have 2 text pages to qualify for the second class postal rates, so why do some of these older comics have 3 text pages? Was there an earlier 3 text pages limitation or were the publishers worried that some post office types might object to the space filled by an illustration and included a third text page just in case?

The Impulsive Imps
Okay.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2025, 08:10:49 AM »

"For 1947 years I've delivered presents to people"
So Santa's career only started in the 20th Century?

Well, since this comic came out in 1947, 1947 - 1947 = 0, so he seems to be saying he's been delivering Christmas presents since Christ's birth, or probably the year 1 AD, since there is no year 0.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2025, 08:20:52 AM »

Giggle Comics 37
(1) Front Cover
I always loved front covers having solid, jet-black backgrounds, because that makes those books stand out compared to everything else around them. I also like the staging that the artist, Dan Gordon, used. and the idea of a cat dressed up as a Human baby, standing upright like a Human, and acting as an air traffic controller stopping normal air vehicles to let Santa Claus fly by in his flying reindeer-drawn sleigh.

(2) Inside Front Cover - Ha Ha Comics Ad/Indicia Page
Artist Dan Gordon did a good job of drawing Ken Hultgren's and Bob Wickersham's characters.  Maybe it was a bit over-the-top in touting the funniness of the stories in Ha Ha 37 (implying that it was rolling on the floor, pants-wetting humour) when it was good for a few chuckles, but worth reading if you like good quality artwork.

(3) Superkatt - Written and drawn by ex Van Beuren, Paul Terry, MGM, and Fleischer Studios animator, Dan Gordon
This cute and funny Christmas story starts off with a very colourful, Christmasy/Wintery splash panel, featuring the gender ambiguous Superkatt, and her/his sidekick best friend, Humphrey Hound, being accosted by a stereotype ignorant and boorish Brooklynite mean bully, throwing snowballs at them.  Superkatt vows to instil the misdirected heathen with "The Christmas Spirit".  As Superkatt acts like a boy, I'll refer to him as "he".  He plans to get the bully a Christmas gift, which will change his outlook on life (mean disposition).  First, he asks the young son of his "owners" (pet cat of their household) for one of the latter's gifts, and gets batted through his house's wall.  "Supe" then decides to dress up as Santa Claus and give a gift to the poor kid.  Seeing a grumpy thief, dressed like Santa, he remembers there is a Santa costume in his family's cellar, and they go there to get it.  Meanwhile, the thief climbs up on a ladder and goes down their chimney to rob the owners.  He finds their live-in housekeeper, Petunia, and the little son.
Meanwhile, Supe and Humphrey wait outside the house for "The Real Santa" to arrive and leave presents, and they'll take one to give the poor kid. Seeing the thief leave, they come down the chimney, scaring Petunia, who telephones the police.  Nice twist with the real Santa arriving and the police taking him off to jail.  And if that weren't enough unexpected events.....Superkatt and Humphrey follow the thief and, instead of the typical heroism of them beating up the crook, and retrieving their family's stolen gifts, or thinking of a clever way to physically overcome and capture the criminal, they "shame" him into turning himself in to the police (like a Will Eisner, "Spirit" Christmas story).  And if that weren't enough clever plot twists, I was blown away by the freedom postwar writers, artists and editors had to poke fun at societal moral norms, seeing the ill-bred kid having received, from The Jolly Old Christmas Elf, himself, a violent/nasty novelty practical joke box (a boxing glove-in-the-box) that slugs its unwitting opener in the jaw.  And after The Bad Kid tricked him with it, came the funniest, unexpected gag of all, Superkatt day-dreaming of pulling a cannon up to The North Pole, to blow Santa to The Moon, for giving such a present to a violent kid.  This is one of my  all-time favourite non-Disney Christmas comic book stories.

(4) The Snake and The Stocking - Text Story
A centipede's hundred tiny stockings hanging on a fireplace mantle, couldn't get any gifts large enough to impact a snake'[s Christmas, (unless each one were filled with a tiny diamond, which, when fused together could form a large, valuable diamond he or she could sell to buy some profit-making STOCKS!)   ;D

(5) The Duke and The Dope - Written and drawn by Ken Hultgren, ex Disney animator and future WB animator
This story, about "The Duke" a highly educated, but lazy, sly tramp Fox, who travels from town to village, living off of begging, his wits, conning and fleecing people, and when he has to, day work, with his imbecilic sidekick Rabbit, "The Dope", who is about as stupid as they come, but very truthful, and very lucky.  It is my favourite ACG Funny Animal series.  This particular story is not all that funny.  But, like the artwork of the great Carl Barks, Hultgren's drawing quality was always so great that no matter how weak the storyline was, his stories were always a pleasure to view.  It is typical of all the 90 stories of the series in that The Duke sees a chance to make easy money (in this case, by finding a lost box of new can openers they can sell), but, as usual, The Dope screws things up by throwing the money away by not understanding something, or, in this case, by landing The Duke in jail (in this case, for selling items without a local selling license).  The irony of the story was that The Dope had to be coached, over and over, to be a shill for Duke's sales, and so has to pretend to not know The Duke. So, when the police catch Duke selling without a license, The Dope finally plays his part correctly and denies any connection to The Duke, and ironically visits Duke at his jail cell.  The joke is that The Dope, not playing his part correctly, bragging about finally saying his rehearsed  his correctly, in front of the police, alerted the police to ask The Duke for his license.  It's too obvious a plot, and not funny enough to carry a whole story.  The best stories of this series have interesting plots and funny scenes.

As to Scrounge's question about why The Duke puts up with The Dope's incessant imbecility, which often gets him into trouble, and it would be easy to ditch him in a town or the countryside, and be forever rid of him.  But in other stories of the series, we find the answer to that question, which is multi-faceted.  Probably the best reason is because "The Dope" is bound to The Duke as his permanent companion, by a curse placed on he Duke's family since The Middle Ages, when Duke's Fox ancestor wronged Dope's imbecilic Rabbit ancestor.  No matter how hard The Duke has tried to ditch him, Dope's miraculous luck, caused by the curse, brings him back to The Duke, like a "bad penny".   Secondly, after their travelling together for many years, and Dope being loyal to Duke, meaning the best for him, despite getting him into trouble and unwittingly ruining his money-making schemes, The Duke feels sorry for him, knowing that the idiot couldn't possibly get along on his own.  He can't bear the thought of the helpless half-wit being taken advantage by cruel, greedy people.  Thirdly, their going through hard times together has created the sort of bond children have growing up together, or soldiers get by surviving hellish life danger situations together, or combative sports team members get after several years of fighting hard to win championships for their teammates so they can share in the triumph of finally getting the "payoff" for all their hard struggle and work together.  It's hard for most people to "throw away" a "family member", or someone who struggled together with you, if "their heart is in the right place", but their mind's workings or the way they act is affected by disease or birth problems, or an accident.  There is a natural instinct to help the weak and helpless of your family, tribe, team, or even just your species, when you've battled together for survival.  The proof that that is true in this case, is that Duke DID actually have the perfect chance to dump Dope in one story, and it was clear that Dope's luck (the curse) was NOT going to dump him right back in his lap.  And yet, given that opportunity, knowing he was free of the imbecile's chain around his neck, The Duke actually went back to find Dope, and they travelled onward together at the end of the story, with Duke starting to get irritated by The Dope's inane prattle in the last panel.

(6) Spencer Spook - Drawn by Ken Champin, former WB animator
This is my second favourite ACG Funny Animal series originated by Champin; but I like Disney animation and Disney Comics' Jack Bradbury's version better.  Spencer is a Ghost who lives in old houses occupied by living people, and earns his "rent" by haunting them.  He is assigned to these abodes by The Chief of his Workers' (Haunting Ghosts) Union.  IF the living residents complain about him (usually that he is not "entertaining enough", or too noisy, and they can never sleep) he loses his place to haunt, and generally given a less desirable place.  This is a really silly story, with a plot that makes no sense.  Spencer is haunted by two Ghosts who are "Ghost Haunters".  And Spencer wants to get rid of them from their bothering him.  So he reads a book about "Killing Ghosts.  He gets rid of them, when he finds out their Ghost grave headstones are opposite for the pair.  He pulls their headstones out of the ground and switches them, and the Ghost Ghosts stay in their Ghost graves, and don't bother him anymore.  But, Spencer is unsatisfied, as he misses them!   

This plot is not a good, or funny concept for a comedy story, because it makes no sense.  Apparently, when people die, they become Ghosts.  Then, in that second existence, if they are disliked too much by other Ghosts, and so, are killed, they go to a Ghost graveyard, and in a third existence, as a Ghost Ghost, Haunt second existence Ghosts (during day or night).

(7) Binky (Dog) - Drawn by Ken Hultgren
This story, apparently a flashback to when Binky was a puppy, and his Human family moved to a rural area containing small farms, and he didn't know what a pig was.  Two older dogs want to have fun at his expense, telling him that a pig is another dog (like them).  They return to find out that Binky is enjoying behaving like a pig, wallowing in the pig sty's mud.  Neither interesting nor funny, nor unexpected.

(8} Potsy (Parrot) - Written and Drawn by Don R. Christensen, ex Disney and WB animator
This is a play on the ancient Germanic folk tale of Hansel and Gretel, from the days of great famines, when parents had to choose which of their children would live or die, as there was not enough food for their family to survive, so the father would have the horrible job of taking the excess children to the woods, sneaking away from them, and leaving them there to starve to death, die of exposure to the cold of fall or winter night, or to be eaten by wolves.  This story copies the children's leaving a trail of breadcrumbs, which Potsy does to find his way back home, after his owner gets fed up with the terrible screeching of the parrot's singing.  But, when a fellow bird eats the portion of Potsy's "trail" nearest him, Potsy panics and asks every animal in the woods to help him find the remains of the trail.  To get them to help him look for it, he brags about all the delicious food where he lived, so , just after her arrives back home, the final panel shows 50+ animals looking through the windows into his house to the shock of his owners. 

As to Scrounge's question, no, there is no rule about Herbert not hurting Potsy.  And he often gets very angry at the wacky, often reckless, scheming parrot.  But isn't it against the laws of animal rights (for non-food animals) to act cruel towards them? I know that Canada has both Federal and Provincial animal rights laws that make cruel treatment by Humans towards them criminal actions.  I assume that USA has similar Federal and State laws.

(9) Uncle Ringo (Raccoon) -2-Page Gag - Drawn by Gil Turner, ex Disney animator, future Disney Comics artist
Not a very funny gag - too obvious, too often used cliché of the cantankerous old maid schoolteacher. I do like the view from under Ringo's garage grease pit.  Apparently, he operates an auto mechanics service out of his residential garage.  I think this is the only story in which it was shown.  The series was generally titled: "Ringo Raccoon", and his nephews only seldomly appeared in the stories.

(10) Lionel (Lion) - Written and Drawn by Ken Hultgren
What a way to cheat on writing a story- thinking of a simple gag that works (to a certain extent, can be illustrated with several emotional takes (including athletic movements), and those elements can stretch the simple gag into 4 pages of artwork that can be accepted by the editor and paid for m(both for 4 times the pages of the gag's plot's worth.  This was the sneaky way for the poorly paid comics writers to up their pay per hour of work a bit avoiding the time consuming work of thinking up a more complicated plot, and thinking involved in strategically laying out the panels and best dialogue.  This one wrote itself, and its layout and dialogue flow out automatically, with no added thinking needed.  Of course wasting the great plot of a professor-type who can send messages by mental telepathy on a mere 4-page "story", when it could have been used in a 10 or 12-pager, in this series, or maybe a 20-30 pager in a Sci-Fi themed epic story in a giant annual is an unwise move. 

(11) Northern Nonsense - Drawn by Allan Benedict (A.G.B.)
A bit stereotyped are The Eskimos (Inuits) having lemon yellow skin.  Are they meant to be suffering from jaundice???  The Inuits did NOT carve wood Totem Poles?  Where would they find the wood.  The Pacific Coastal First Nations people of Panhandle Alaska and British Columbia, and Washington State and Oregon were far, far, away from where The Inuits lived.  This is an error similar in severity to placing penguins in The Arctic, or polar bears in The Antarctic.  And yet, many comic book artists and writers made these mistakes.  And, of course, no moose live in the polar ice cap areas (only caribou as deerlike animals go).  I do like this story's unexpected ending, of the bragging father daring(risking) his igloo to crumble by swearing that his completely made-up "fish Story" is true, and the ending gag of his wife's complaining that they've lost their home that way many times over.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2025, 08:30:41 AM »


"For 1947 years I've delivered presents to people"
So Santa's career only started in the 20th Century?

Well, since this comic came out in 1947, 1947 - 1947 = 0, so he seems to be saying he's been delivering Christmas presents since Christ's birth, or probably the year 1 AD, since there is no year 0.

But St. Nicholas was born in the year 270.  How could he have been delivering toys before the year 278 or so?
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2025, 10:07:28 AM »

No idea, Rob, I was just following the 'logic' of the math that Santa implies.

I mean I think the guy who created the AD calendar miscalculated the years since Christ was born, so he wouldn't have actually been born in the year 1.

Although I believe in some early Protestant Christmas tales, St. Nicholas was replaced with Kris Kringle (which I believe was the literal Christ child), so maybe when the modern Christmas was created by merging all these different yuletide traditions into one, Kris Kringle, St. Nicholas, whomever else, were merged into the being known as Santa Claus and so has memories of 1,947 Christmases?

Thanks for the explanation about the Duke and the Dope.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2025, 11:00:47 AM »


No idea, Rob, I was just following the 'logic' of the math that Santa implies.

I mean I think the guy who created the AD calendar miscalculated the years since Christ was born, so he wouldn't have actually been born in the year 1.

Although I believe in some early Protestant Christmas tales, St. Nicholas was replaced with Kris Kringle (which I believe was the literal Christ child), so maybe when the modern Christmas was created by merging all these different yuletide traditions into one, Kris Kringle, St. Nicholas, whomever else, were merged into the being known as Santa Claus and so has memories of 1,947 Christmases?

Thanks for the explanation about the Duke and the Dope.

Very true. IF there ever was a real single Jesus of Nazareth, rather than being "created' 200 years later, as an assemblage of stories about several different 1st Century preachers, AND the story about the 3 Wise Men from The East seeing the comet on the night of his birth, it would have had to occur during the year 5 or 4 B.C. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2025, 08:47:45 AM »

Ha Ha Comics 49
(1) Front Cover
Izzy & Dizzy Bear wish that The Genie of their magic lamp would give a Christmas gift to Santa Claus.  And Ken Hultgren's characters, Izzy & Dizzy, The Bookworm, and Robespierre Cat Hold the book's title letters.

(2) Inside Front Cover
Giggle Comics Ad, featuring Dan Gordon's Superkatt and Humphrey Hound, and Ken Hultgren's The Duke and The Dope, and Jim Davis' Shilly & Shally Mouse, as well as this book's Indicia.

(3) Izzy and Dizzy (Bear) - Written and Drawn by Ken Hultgren
Izzy and Dizzy have a magic lamp, which like Aladdin's, has a Genie (Slave of The Lamp) who grants its master's every wish.  Merlin, The Magician of Ancient Britain appears in their home's living room.  There are three physical impossibilities in this story that go unexplained.  Even if the TV produces images that simulate a 3-Dimensional appearance, how can those images escape outside of the television, and physically interface with beings outside it?  And how can the broadcast coming on radio waves, be broadcast back into the past, into a day during The 12th Century?  And, how can people from the past, travel back anf forth through time?
None of those questions are answered in this story.  Ken Hultgren's artwork is great, as usual.  I like Merlin's design, very much.  But, the story has several holes.

(4) Teepee Tim - Drawn by ex-Disney Animator and Disney and WB Comics artist
This is one of many different (little Indian (Native American) boy clones of Disney's "Silly Symphonies" character "Little Hiawatha", start soon after World War II (1946-49).  Interesting that the early stories in this series had the young brave asking his elders about nature, and their answers were based on Native American's different tribes' real legends about how things in The Universe came to be like they are.

(5) Shilly and Shally (Mouse) - Drawn by Jim Davis, ex Disney, Fleischer, and Famous Studios Animator
The Mice, Cat, and Dog are enemies of each other, and Shilly and Shalley think The Christmas Spirit and Chriustmas Holiday gift-giving should be for animals too.  The Mice write a letter to Santa Claus, and he brings them 2 mechanical mice as gifts.  Their enemy, Chauncey The Cat sees the toy mice.  So, the 2 real mice take the toys' turning keys off the robot mice, and attach them to each other so The Cat will think they are the mechanical wind-up toys, and leave them alone, to rob the house owners' kitchen for their food.  It's a cute and clever story,

(6) Blitzen Jr. - Written by Bob Karp, Drawn by Jack Bradbury, ex Disney animator, and future Western Publishing comics artist
Blitzen Sr.  one of Santa Claus' flying Reindeer has gout too badly for him to help pull Santa's Sleigh, so he volunteers his son, Blitzen Jr., to take his place. But Junior doesn't know how to fly. After trying hard to fly and failing, he runs away down towards The USA countryside, and finally is hungry, so he asks for a job from a rural resident who is willing to pay him for using his head as a wall trophy.  How did he travel 5,000 to 6,000 miles from The North Pole to The American Great Plains, without getting hungry???   He runs away to a nearby town.  Afraid of his reputation as a failure, he says his name is "John Smith".  He's hired as a hat and coat rack!  But his boss reads in the newspaper that he is Blitzen Jr. and is responsible for the children all over The World receiving no toys this coming Christmas, and fires him, immediately! But, with his meagre pay he earned before getting fired, he bought a government surplus rocket engine.  And so, he rides on that engine, which adds enough power for him and the other reindeer to pull Santa's sleigh.  A weak story idea, but Bradbury's expressive artwork helps it a lot.

(7) Robespierre (Cat) - Drawn by Ken Hultgren
Robespierre invites his Alley Cat friend, Tiger, to leave his garbage can "bed", and sleep in his masters' house.  Funny that the Alley Cat speaks with an un-cultured Brooklyn accent.  But,Tiger sleepwalks while dreaming and is very rough in doing so.  Eventually, after getting beat up after several dreams, Robespierre returns sleeping Tiger to his alley garbage can, and returns to sleep in his room.  Outside we see Tiger approaching the house, wielding a large wooden club.   A fairly common story in the animation-influnced 1940s funny animal comics.  Nothing at all unexpected or cleverly funny.

(8} The Impulsive Imps - Drawn by Al Hubbard
Fairies and Imps first came from Ireland, eh???  The Imps'Leprechaun uncle is old and feeble, and wants to spend his last days with them, where they live. The Fairy Queen gives them her permission to bring him to America.  He is not terribly old,  and is a practical joker and trickster whose victims often suffer from his "jokes".  The 2 nephews meet Uncle Mulligan at his ship's dock. He has wings and flies and calls himself a fairy.  I thought Leprechauns were just "Little People", bigger than elves, and certainly bigger than fairies, but not as big as dwarfs.  Like his nephews (Imps) he also has insect antennae.  So, Imps and Leprechans are related to insects?  Uncle Mulligan plays a trick on a New York traffic policeman he knew back in Ireland, causing 2 cars to crash. After more dangerous pranks, the nephews tie Uncle Mulligan and ship him to Alaska.  They undo his damage by magic from their magic wands.  I didn't know Imps used magic wands.
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2025, 03:20:44 AM »

Of the three, HA HA COMICS was my fave. I don’t know that much about the funny animal genre other that Kelly and Barks, so thanks everybody for the education.
And yeah, ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND was a total hack job. “A Rebellion in Toyland” reminded me of that trend that’s been growing over the last couple of years of having a more military presence at the North Pole. Yeas ago, it was played for laughs at the beginning of SCROOGED now it’s more accepted and nobody seems to have a problem with it.
GIGGLE had great art, but the stories themselves, as you all noted could vary. NASTY pics of the animals getting plugged.
Thanks for the stories, ‘panther. Merry christmas everybody
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Re: Reading Group #364 - Hey its the season
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2025, 08:22:28 AM »

a more military presence at the North Pole.

Well with those illegal penguins crossing the border...  ;)

Haven't really noticed that trend, but then my attempts at watching Scrooged have me changing the channel after five minutes or so, although there were commercials for a movie called Red One that seemed to have a more military look for the North Pole, then again Santa knowing who's good or bad led to a trend of a CIA-esque surveilance program going on, so military would seem to go along with that.

Seems to say more about people's reactions to the world by extending it to Santa.
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