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Some Beerbohm Comics History

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Some Beerbohm Comics History
« on: December 19, 2009, 09:27:26 AM »

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From: Robert Beerbohm <beerbohmrl@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Subject: Beerbohm Comics History

Just read RC Harvey's glowing tribute to his friend and mine, Shel Dorf at

http://www.sheldorftribute.com/2009/12/18/r-c-harvey-article-about-shel/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email

http://www.tcj.com/?p=1479

I met and got to know Shel at the very first "real" San Diego Comicon 1970 held at a hotel there.

I roomed with Bob at the motel around the corner from Shel's San Diego area house a couple years in a row there, interviewing Shel alongside one who is probably our greatest living comics historian. I am proud to call both "friend."

Which has made me think back to some of my early days in the comics business - a hobby which got out of hand many decades ago.

Entered organized comics fandom age 13 responding to GB Love's first display advert in Marvel Comics, which caused me to send a dollar in thereby receiving RBCC #45 plus the second Comics Collector Handbook and Alter Ego #7 in the mail soon thereafter. I was hooked from the get-go with Rocket's Blast*ComiCollector, placing my first mail order advert by #47 Oct 1966. I was now 14 years old.

The following summer i took a Greyhound bus to Houston Texas for my first Comicon held June 17 18 1967, turning 15 at that show. There were maybe 120 of us there. Then began coming in yearly for some years to alternating "Southerwestencons" in Dallas, Houston, and Oklahoma City.

Twas at the 1972 Multicon in Oklahoma City i was fortunately blessed with a one on one private audience early Sunday morning before the "masses" had woke up with Will Eisner, then attending his second comic book show ever (first one with Seuling in 1971).

After discussing the 40+ rare Spirit tabloid-size sections i had tucked under my arm from our chance encounter in the spacious hotel lobby, our conversation turned to how to "save" the American comic book, then reeling from the beginning of soon-to-be continuous price hikes thru the 70s following the then-ongoing industry collapse which followed the demise of the once hugely popular twice weekly Adam West Batman TV show.

Will suggested emphatically "we" needed to go after college age "kids" (as he called people my age then). We needed to plant comic book stores on top of the huge university campuses, then begin the process of turning them on to being regular readers of comics.

But I am getting ahead of myself here in the chronology...

Made it to my first "Seulingcon" in New York City summer of 1970. That was an eye opener of what the potentials in the "world" of comics could portend. We were wheeling, dealing, getting buried with all kinds of comics treasures we had here-to-fore only read about in the fanzines ads of the day. Plus we were hustling contribs wanting to continue a ditto fanzine we had started.

My friend Steve Johnson and myself, having published our fanzine FANZATION for 5 issues 1969-70, were fortunate to publish a letter by Steve Ditko in #3 which Fred Wertham quoted out of on the subject of creativity in his last book The World of Fanzines.

In FANZATION #5 we published my friend Jerry Bails discussing the early origins of his ideas on how and why he essentially kick-started present-day comics fandom in 1961, plus friend Jack Promo writing about getting into EC comics fandoim with its fanzines of the day along with his memories of working with Jerry, Shel Dorf and others starting the first true full-blown comics convention The Detroit Triple Fan Fair back in 1964.

At the 71 New York Seuling rendition, Steve and I bought a lot of EC era prelim art by Roy G Krenkel of Williamson and Frazetta EC stories, Roy having done detailed preliminary panels to every story by these gents. Must have been over 100 of these panels with prices ranging from 50 cents to a buck apiece. I still have a few stuck away.

Plus at the same time as they walked up together, I helped Al Williamson replace every full page Prince Valiant Foster Sunday 1938-1842 from a huge stash of multiple copies of each I had scored from Robert Brown, Oklahoma City just a few weeks earlier at the Dallas comicon. Seems Al had long ago rubber cemented his Foster PVs into scrap books, 20 years later, the old cement was eating thru the paper, leaving ugly stains. We ended up with maybe 60 Secret Agent Corridan original art newspaper dailies. I had scored these multiples of every PV page for 50 cents per page

Then a woman walked up who began eyeing our table (of three tablles) jammed with 1930s and 40s Disney toy stuff artifacts including unopened rolls of Disney wall paper and trim from the 30s, all kinds of planters, and well, cool old Disney "stuff". At the same time she was deeply conversing well with Al and Roy. After picking out three grand worth of Disney artifacts saying, "We just moved to Pennsylvanis and I want to do the kitchen in Disneyana," she told us to go to a room upstairs on the 3rd floor, tell her husband we had three thousand dollars in trade credit, then abruptly left deeply conversing with Al and Roy. Steve and I were dumb-founded.

That was the first hour of the first day of our second NYC comicon.

The next day, after waiting for maybe this lady and her husband coming thru to buy all this neat Disney stuff, after having other people eyeballing to and lusting after most of it, I told Steve i was going to go upstairs and knock on that hotel room door.

Steve said to me on my way towards the elevator, "Make sure you get the money. We need it!" Famous last words, as i was to discover....

Got upstairs, knocked on the room door, which swung upon, and as i gazed inside, i am sure my chin audibly hit the floor as i was all at once gazing at many Frank Frazetta original paintings of Conan, Creepy, Eerie, Tarzan paperback covers hanging on all the walls in what proved to be his last public showing before the museum opened up. Awe-struck is too tame a term for how I still get goose-bumps sometimes thinking back on that day in New York City 39 years ago.

On a table in the middle of the room were huge piles of every Johnny Comet Sunday and daily newspaper strip. Two tier Sundays were $100 each, dailies were $35 each, three for a hundred dollars. I proceeded to horse trade with The Master himself. Frank told me point blank, "Ellie told me to take care of you, said she wants to do our new kitchen in Disneyana."

Thoughts of making sure I "got the cash" went out my head in a flash, and with three grand in trade bait credit, proceeded to agonize over picking out 90 Johnny Comet original art dailies pof of many hundreds, my rationale for leaving Sundays alone at the time predicated by i got three dailies over having just two tiers in a Sunday. More Fritz art bang for the buck so to speak.

Steve mollified rather quickly once he saw what i brought back downstairs to the dealers room. Russ Cochran took the remainder of Frazetta's Johnny Comets on consignment, immediately increasing the price to $100 per daily, thereby tripling the "investment" Steve and I had just made to nine thousand dollars. This is fun, i thought to myself

The same year as we made our first Seulingcon, we also made the 1700 mile car trek from outside Omaha out to the first San Diego Comicon in 1970, and now over 40 years later, am one of a very small club of only four persons who have sold comic books out of a booth at every single SD Comicon since. Too bad the big Hollywood movie studios have taken over the Comicon, forgetting who and wot brought'm to the party to begin with, but i digress........

In late August 1972, just a week or two following the first El Cortez San Diego Comicon, i partnered up with Bud Plant and the late John Barrett to open The Berkeley Comic Art Shoppe at 2512 Telegraph Ave. This was just a couple months following my fortuidous chance one on one with Will Eisner in Oklahoma City's June comicon.

Berni Wrightson's Swamp Thing #1 debuted the week we opened. Jack Kirby was still doing his 4th World, Barry Smith was still drawing Conan, and the Print Mint warehouse containing Zap Comics and all the other underground comix was just a mile away over at 830 Folger off of Ashby.

We began gobbling up all the Code comics incoming at Gilboy Agency over in Oakland. A typical magazine book distributor, they were more than happy simply not to have to mess with comics books some weeks. Some weeks they shredded all the comics before we got there. Those "funny books" were then on the lowest rung of the totem pole, less than zero respect, is what we were dealing with

Bud was attending San Jose State, supplying much needed capital and portions of his growing stock of underground comix and specialty "fan" product he was splitting with Phil Seuling as aspects of the Direct Market were being further developed following the lead of Zap Comics publisher Berkeley-based Print Mint inventing what we have come to call the Direct Market. Seuling acknowledges his roots in proved to be his last interview published in Will Eisner's Quarterly #3 (1984).

John and i worked our butts off seven days a week getting the store off the ground, open 9 AM to midnight seven days a week in those early days. We were all of 21 years old.

Six months later we found us hosting the first San Fran Bay Area comicon in the ASUC Building on the University of Calif-Berkeley campus Easter weekend. UC students were a buck a head, kids under 12 free, general public was $3. Robert Graysmith, then editorial cartoonist for the San Francisco Chronicle got us the cover and a three page write up in the "pink section" main cultural announcement portion of the combined Chronicle Examiner Sunday newspaper.

Berkeleycon 73 was the first comicon is history to be focused on creator-owned, royalty paying "underground-distributed" comix

During the last hour of the last day on Sunday, the fabled Tom Reilly "San Francisco" vintage comic book collection of over 4000 mostly unread uncirculated mint Golden Agers 1939-1945 surfaced. We were lucky to score 7/9s of the holdings over the course of a couple months.

A month or so after that first Berkeleycon, in May 1973 we opened our first San Fran store at 721 Columbus Ave; by the end of that summer we also had opened two more stores in San Jose and Sacramento, thereby becoming the first comic book chain store operation in history.

A lot of water under the proverbial bridge later, I opened a Rick Griffin art gallery in The Cannery down in world-famous San Francisco Fisherman's Wharf June 1 1991. It opened to area-wide acclaim, 10,000+ people coming thru for our grand opening party featurng SF-rock bands Big Brother And The Holding Company, New Riders of the Purple Sage, members of Quicksilver Messenger Service, It's A Beautiful Day, the Irish band Phoenix, and others. Rick and I were both making a come-back of sorts at the time.

Two and a half months later to the day August 15 1991 Rick was killed in a tragic motorcycle accident. The gallery was forced to close down the next year. I miss my friend i first met when he wandered into our first Telegraph Ave store back in 1973 when he was up from southern Calif to Print Mint picking up the art from them having just published their expanded version of Rick's Tales From the Tube.

To get all that out of my brain, a couple years later I began work on the expansion origins of the Direct Sales Market for comic books i helped found when Bud Plant and John Barrett started what I named as Comics & Comix once we expanded our little empire to encompass most of the greater Bay Area.

In the intervening years that modest undertaking has expanded into a comprehensive look-see business history of the origins of the American strip, which also was the first American comic book, pushing that nebulous boundary so far back to Sept 1842 with the publication of Wilson & Company's The Adventures of Obadiah Oldbuck by Rodolphe Topffer from Geneva Switzerland.

This New York City edition was a reprint of the 1841 London-based Tilt & Bogie edition George Cruikshank funded, which in turned was a pirate edition of the 1833 Aubert pirate version of Topffer's 1828 Geneva printed first original.

As far as I am concerned, after much extensive research which saw me attend seven Angouleme comics festivals 2000-2006 in a row, each time bringing over cool early comics artifacts to the comics musem the French Government funds there, as well as several Italian comics shows in Lucca and Rome starting in 1998, conducting extensive research with most all the major comics historians of our day, i have deduced and make the claim the origin of the modern printed comic "book" began in 1928 in Geneva Switzerland by Topffer.

Since 1997 I have also invented and have supplied the history articles as well as compiled the price indexes for what we now call the Victorian Age 1828-1880s and the Platinum Age 1880s-1930s for the Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide. I also have long supplied the "Origin of the Modern Comic Book" article covering 1928-1970s which begins with the first original material news stand for sale tabloid-size comics magazine The Funnies which debuted Christmas 1928 published by George Delecorte and George Janosik of Eastern Color. The deprssion hit next year, they re-designed this brain child into Famous Funnies come 1934 which survived, beginning to pull a profit by its 7th issue. For some reason, Max Gaines got all the credit in the earlier decades of this nascent business which did not take off until the advent of Jerry & Joe's brain-child Superman four years later.

What started out as a 15 page section in October 1996 has grown to 72 pages crammed with much here-to-fore unknown comics history.

Am presently recovering from bi-lateral metal implant hip joint replacement surgery conducted in LA Oct 20 2009. Am learning how to walk again. Evidently my hip joint cartilage wore off at a faster rate from having been crushed directly due to having been a passenger in a van accident coming out of Houston Comicon June 1973. I guess this is the most famous comic book accident of its day as twas written up in the Dark Horse annecdotal encyclopedia Between The Panels as the entry "On The Road..."

After a hiatus of 3-4 years dealing with essentially broken hip joints, now replaced and repaired, I have begun work again on my tome about the evolution of the comic strip book as a business.

If people keep purchasing out of my eBay store
http://cgi.ebay.com/RICK-GRIFFIN-1991-BEST-COMICS-FINISHED-PAINTING_W0QQitemZ230407668927QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item35a55e04bf I can continue this 160 years covered history book to completion and eventual publication, bringing to bear my 43 year non-stop direct involvement in the comics market.

Thanks for reading this far, this book is a labor of love setting many records straight I have unearthed. Perception is Reality.

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Re: Some Beerbohm Comics History
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 07:05:40 AM »

Wow, welcome to the board Robert.
Collectors should know Robert from all his work mentioned above.  It's great how we've attracted some of the greats of fandom to the site.

Please feel free to chime in whenever you feel like it Bob.  I know you're on the road back after your surgery.  Good luck with everything.

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Re: Some Beerbohm Comics History
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 06:37:56 AM »

Great to see you on the road to recovery, Bob!  You've been one of the Names in this hobby since as long as I can remember!  Welcome to the Golden Age UK forums!  Your knowledge and expertise are greatly appreciated, and I for one can't wait to read your book :D

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