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Doom patrol

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carbon_psycho

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Doom patrol
« on: March 20, 2010, 05:45:28 AM »

I have read the Grant Morrison's run. I just wanted to know more about the original series?
Is it as weird & absurd as Morrison made it..

What other similar weird comics are out there...
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2010, 05:48:27 AM »

   LOVED Premiani's original DP!  Bought every last issue I could to prevent their death, but I didn't have Tony Stark's money.  Sadness!
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2010, 05:58:41 PM »

In my opinion Morrison's Doom Patrol is probably his best work (though his Animal Man was quite good too). I'm not thrilled with what he's doing now most of the time, but there are exceptions- like the new Batman and Robin is pretty good, but nowhere near as intricate as what he did in DM.

As for the original Doom Patrol, boy was that a weird book. Morrison definitely added a lot to what was there, but you'll find the foundations of his run in those old stories. The stories are pretty simplistic by comparison Morrison and there were just the four characters- Negative Man, Robot Man, Elasti-girl and the Chief. Still, it's always been a book I've wanted to collect a good run. Sadly, I don't have all that many of them, just about a dozen.
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Re: Doom patrol
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2010, 06:13:54 PM »

   Does anyone know why the Brotherhood of Evil were all French?  What'd Arnie have against France?
   I want to grow up to be General Immortus.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2010, 07:48:17 PM »

I would rather have a date with Madame Rouge  :-* I would not want to live forever, at least not on this plane of existence
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2010, 07:55:28 PM »

   She's too spooky for me.  First she's into a disembodied brain, then a guy in a wheelchair whose junk is probably disconnected, and she ends up blowing both of them up. 
   First rule of relationships: observe how she treated former boyfriends during their breakup.  You're most probobly gonna go through the same thing!
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2010, 09:10:58 PM »

This is SO true.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2010, 11:48:43 PM »

Some weird comic series I know of : Grimjack, noir science fiction/fantasy a la Roger Zelazny;The Badger, martial arts madness & mayhem;Flaming Carrot, this one is pretty insane, right up there with Morrison's work.Grimjack is the least weird (?!), and all are pretty psychedelic. :)

More close to the target might be Alan Moore's Promethea, though I haven't read it, but from what I read about it, I expect something in the vein of Morrison's Invisibles - super heroics, mysticism, occultism, SF, mythology.

For more silver age-y stuff, I thought Jack Kirby's Kamandi and New Gods were pretty good and weird-ish. :D




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Re: Doom patrol
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2010, 11:53:40 PM »

I loved The Badger. He was quite insane.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2010, 11:53:59 PM »


Some weird comic series I know of : Grimjack, noir science fiction/fantasy a la Roger Zelazny;The Badger, martial arts madness & mayhem;Flaming Carrot, this one is pretty insane, right up there with Morrison's work.Grimjack is the least weird (?!), and all are pretty psychedelic. :)

More close to the target might be Alan Moore's Promethea, though I haven't read it, but from what I read about it, I expect something in the vein of Morrison's Invisibles - super heroics, mysticism, occultism, SF, mythology.

For more silver age-y stuff, I thought Jack Kirby's Kamandi and New Gods were pretty good and weird-ish. :D




Let's see -- The Badger is still cool! I never got into Grimjack much or followed Morrison's Invisibles (which is odd because I do read a lot of Morrison), but enjoyed Promethea for about 8 issues until I simply lost track of what Alan Moore was trying to do.

And if you like the Silver Age psychedelic action, we simply cannot leave out the early adventures of Dr. Strange. Steve Ditko revitalized some awesome on that run. 

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2010, 12:13:34 AM »



And if you like the Silver Age psychedelic action, we simply cannot leave out the early adventures of Dr. Strange. Steve Ditko revitalized some awesome on that run. 

B.



Yeah, I heard about that one, that will have to be checked out. :D Also,original Mirage Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles are very weird, but more in a B movie sense.


I loved The Badger. He was quite insane.


You said it, Larry. ;D
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 12:31:02 AM »

I agree. The orignal TMNT were a good series until hijacked by cartoons and dumbed down.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2010, 12:50:02 AM »

The Doom Patrol seems to be a hybrid of "The Fantastic Four" and "The X-Men", but one that worked.

However,I feel it did take a couple of years for the feature to get good. Some of those early stories just
didn't do it for me.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2010, 12:53:31 PM »

The old DP really derived from the Fantastic Four in basic structure, but they actually preceded the X-Men.  The leaders-in-wheelchairs thing could be coincidental.  But the Brotherhood of Evil, and then the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?  Gimme a break!

At any rate, I found the old DP marvelous in both senses of the word...they were one of the few DC's whose scripting was pretty near Marvel quality.  Cliff, Rita, Larry and Niles all had personalities, they squabbled like the FF, and they had a very wild rogue's gallery.  The Brotherhood of Evil was based in France for some reason.  (The Brain may have been French, but it was never stated one way or the other.)  M'sieu Mallah was a genius ape with a French name, and, of course, we had Madame Rouge.  If you can find these things on download, down 'em.  They're worth it!
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2010, 01:34:05 PM »

   How many youngsters here realize that Changling of the Titans started out in the Doom Patrol as Beast Boy?
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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 02:19:01 PM »


   How many youngsters here realize that Changling of the Titans started out in the Doom Patrol as Beast Boy?


I knew that.
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« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 04:07:10 PM »

   Ah, but are you a youngster?  :)
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« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2010, 05:29:56 PM »

How many here recall DC's first Silver Age Beast Boy ?

-Nigel
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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2010, 05:38:56 PM »


   Ah, but are you a youngster?  :)


I am 24, Am I young enough??
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« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2010, 05:55:11 PM »

   If you didn't buy the original run of DP off the spinners, you're a youngster. 
   And a knowledgable one at that!
   Condescending enough for ya, kid?  ;D
   You can make fun of my grey hair and arthritis now to even things up.
   
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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2010, 05:58:20 PM »

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How many here recall DC's first Silver Age Beast Boy ?


   I had to look up the issue, but I was a Legion nut back in the day.  Adventure Comics #324!
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2010, 06:00:54 PM »


I am 24, Am I young enough??


Shhh, never tell them old guys your age, or there will be no end to the grasshopper references!!! ;D
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« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2010, 06:13:24 PM »


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How many here recall DC's first Silver Age Beast Boy ?


   I had to look up the issue, but I was a Legion nut back in the day.  Adventure Comics #324!


Correct, he started out as a hero but had mental issues and became a baddie in a later issue but still died heroicly.

-Nigel
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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2010, 06:38:43 PM »

I'm about 3 issues short of the complete run of the SA Doom Patrol; one of these days I really need to grab those issues.  DP and LSH are my favorite Silver Age superhero series; maybe Thunder Agents could make the list too.

I think it's interesting that the SA books I like most are the ones that more or less start with the DC formula and then pay attention to what Marvel was doing then.  Both Drake and Shooter are on the record as having been trying on purpose to bring a bit of the Marvel formula to DC books, and while I don't know that's what they were trying to do at Tower the books do seem to borrow the best from both. 
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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2010, 07:45:03 PM »

Personally, I don't care for Morrison's DP at all, mainly because of the deconstruction and destruction he did to the original Patrol, to the point that all of the original characters are pretty much irrevocably damaged by the end, in fact other than Negative Man/Larry Trainer, they are all dead.

The original DP was not about weirdness as Morrison asserts as the DP was actually one of the more realistic books of the time at DC compared to much of their line where the Flash is turned into a marrionette and the JLA row a boat through space. While the Brotherhood of Evil may have been a riff of the X-Men's Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, they came a little later to the mythos of the DP. The basic concept of the team is the FF: Both have as making up the team a genius, a stealth hero, a stretching hero, a flying energy hero, gruff tough guy whose power came at a more extreme cost, and re-workings of golden-age hero and concept. Sure, some of them are a little mix and match ie Elasti-Girl is both the stretching and stealth character through her powers while Mr. Fantastic is both stretching and a genius.
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