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Re: Nimm Mich Mit!

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paw broon

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Re: Nimm Mich Mit!
« on: November 25, 2020, 02:30:02 PM »

What a great wee book. Thank you. I notice one of the coins says, "pfund". I need to do some research.

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Robb_K

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Re: Nimm Mich Mit!
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2020, 09:54:40 PM »

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paw broon

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Re: Nimm Mich Mit!
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2020, 12:01:36 PM »

Yes, I know that.  It was because a German coin was a pound that got me curious.  I have a german o level but have forgotren most of it.  I can still read a bit, though.
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Andrew999

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2020, 07:52:02 AM »

I expect comickraut can help us out here - but I believe that in colloquial German, 1 pound was equal to 20 marks - at least until the 1900s. I think that dates back to the time of Charlemagne.

In Austria, I believe pound is still used as a traditional measure of weight but it is equal to 500gm - but in England of course, a pound in weight is equal to 454gm.
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ComicMike

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2020, 10:24:43 AM »



I expect comickraut can help us out here ...



Too much of the honor. ???

Although I have some albums with coins, I am not a numismatist and the German coin situation in the 19th century is very confusing, because of the variety of coins and the various small German countries. Although there were also uniform coins, each of the many small German states also had its own coins. There were "Thaler", "Gulden", "Kreuzer", "Groschen", "Pfennige" ect. As far as I know, the coin situation only became clearer and standardized after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71 by Bismarck after establish the German Empire.

You can make 30 "Vereinsthaler" of a pound of fine silver. One pound (Pfund) are 500 g, a half kilogram.

The "Vereinsthaler" was introduced in 1857 to replace the previous standard Thaler (based on the Prussian Thaler) which was very slightly heavier. While the earlier Thaler had contained one fourteenth of a Cologne mark of silver (16,704 grams), the Vereinsthaler contained 16 2⁄3 grams of silver, which was indicated on the coins as one thirtieth of a metric pound (pound, equal to 500 grams).

More Informationes here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereinstaler

BTW

In the German editions of the Disney comics, "Taler" and "Kreuzer" are used to pay for, at least that was the case in the past. I can't say whether Dagobert meanwhile exchanged his Taler and Kreuzer for Euro. ;D

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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2020, 10:35:17 AM »


I expect comickraut can help us out here - but I believe that in colloquial German, 1 pound was equal to 20 marks - at least until the 1900s. I think that dates back to the time of Charlemagne.

In Austria, I believe pound is still used as a traditional measure of weight but it is equal to 500gm - but in England of course, a pound in weight is equal to 454gm.


In The Netherlands,  a pound (een pond) is a weight measure, equal to half a kilo.  So, it wouldn't equal a British or Canadian, or US Pound - only approximate it. But, I've never heard of it being a coin there.
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Robb_K

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2020, 10:42:08 AM »




I expect comickraut can help us out here ...



Too much of the honor. ???

Although I have some albums with coins, I am not a numismatist and the German coin situation in the 19th century is very confusing, because of the variety of coins and the various small German countries. Although there were also uniform coins, each of the many small German states also had its own coins. There were "Thaler", "Gulden", "Kreuzer", "Groschen", "Pfennige" ect. As far as I know, the coin situation only became clearer and standardized after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870/71 by Bismarck after establish the German Empire.

You can make 30 "Vereinsthaler" of a pound of fine silver. One pound (Pfund) are 500 g, a half kilogram.

The "Vereinsthaler" was introduced in 1857 to replace the previous standard Thaler (based on the Prussian Thaler) which was very slightly heavier. While the earlier Thaler had contained one fourteenth of a Cologne mark of silver (16,704 grams), the Vereinsthaler contained 16 2⁄3 grams of silver, which was indicated on the coins as one thirtieth of a metric pound (pound, equal to 500 grams).

More Informationes here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereinstaler

BTW

In the German editions of the Disney comics, "Taler" and "Kreuzer" are used to pay for, at least that was the case in the past. I can't say whether Dagobert meanwhile exchanged his Taler and Kreuzer for Euro. ;D


He did in The Netherlands.  His money is now in Euros in our comics.  We had a couple stories in which he had to trade in all his Gulden when the changeover occurred, and that was a big mess of a project for the government officials.  Jan and I had one based on that very subject.
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ComicMike

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2020, 11:27:49 AM »



He [Scrooge] did in The Netherlands.  His money is now in Euros in our comics. 


Thanks for the information :). It was certainly not easy for poor Scrooge, to exchange his beloved money into a new currency. ;D
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Robb_K

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2020, 07:49:28 PM »




He [Scrooge] did in The Netherlands.  His money is now in Euros in our comics. 


Thanks for the information :). It was certainly not easy for poor Scrooge, to exchange his beloved money into a new currency. ;D

As with Talers, Gulden, and Pounds Stirling, and US Dollars, there wasn't enough metal and paper in The World, to mint enough coins and print enough paper bills to represent ALL of Scrooge's uncountable Gazillions of whatever currency you'd choose!   8)
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ComicMike

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Re: Nimm Mich Mit!
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2020, 09:40:37 AM »

I guess, that's true!  ;D
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