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« Reply #125 on: July 13, 2021, 05:22:36 PM »

I didn't get around to reading IMDB reviews until this morning.  Whatta ya know, exactly ONE reviewer "got" that the 1932 film was a SEQUEL to the Gillette play, NOT an adaptation of it.

In fact, having now seen this, I suspect the 1939 Basil Rathbone film was not an adaptation either, but in its own way, more of a REMAKE of THIS film!  The difference being, set back in the proper era, and completely eliminating any romance for Holmes (smart move).

Another reviewer noted something I had the very strong feeling of... which was, it felt more like a "BULLDOG DRUMMOND" film than a "SHERLOCK HOLMES".  Apart from the "modern" setting, and the hardcore Chicago gangsters, you had the running sub-plot of a detective engaged to get married, who was REPEATEDLY putting off his promise to RETIRE and GET MARRIED in order to tackle ONE more case.

I've seen very few of the John Howard DRUMMOND films, but that seemed to be running gag in those, and was also done in the George Sanders FALCON films as well.
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« Reply #126 on: July 20, 2021, 04:05:19 AM »

Ladies and gentlemen, for the first time in 4 years of buying DVDs, I accidentally got a Region 2 disc, which I found out when I popped it into the machine and a BIG message came up on screen telling me it wouldn't play.  Oops.

So I watched the 1914 "DER HUND VON BASKERVILLE" again.  This is so much fun.

My favorite bits:

Holmes telling Watson, "I'm going to Baskerville Hall to take a look at this Sherlock Holmes."

Holmes finds a bomb with a burning fuse hidden in a chandelier, and casually announces, "The castle will explode in 20 seconds. Could you give me a light?"  When the people in the room run for it, he pulls out a Derringer and SHOOTS the burning fuse, which falls to the floor, still burning, picks it up, and uses it to light his cigarette.  HOW COOL can somebody be?

The butler walks in and announces, "Mr. Stapleton has returned, he wishes to say hello."  Stapleton (not his real name!) is currently sitting in the room, DISGUISED as Sherlock Holmes.  The look on his face when he KNOWS Holmes is now impersonating him is priceless.

Yes, this film has as little in common with its source material as most Hammer Films adaptations... but it's FUN, and I've already seen it twice in less than a month.


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« Reply #127 on: July 27, 2021, 02:46:56 AM »

"THE SPECKLED BAND"
(British & Dominions Film Corporation / UK / 1931)

Apparently the 3rd time this was filmed (after Georges Treville & Eille Norwood), this was the very 1st film with Raymond Massey! A real oddity, this was actually based on a 1910 stage play, and as a result, had several changes including several extra characters added, like Dr. Rylot's butler, his co-spirator house-keeper, and his Indian servant with the flute.

The strangest addition is Watson having had a computerized filing system installed in their HUGE Baker Street flat, with a trio of secretaries busy typing up details of crime cases for his files. Holmes himself has had a voice-recording machine added to this, and tells Watson "Every mistake you may have said has been recorded and will be held against you."

In this version of the classic story, Watson was a friend of Rylot's late wife, and a friend of his daughters, and gives testimony when the first of them is found dead. Holmes is intrigued by the case, but has to wait a full year until history gets around to repeating itself.

When he goes to the Stoke Moran mansion to investigate, he takes a job as one of the construction men needlessly ripping Helen's room apart. This is rather like how Basil Rathbone's Holmes was in disguise as a peddler in his version of "THE HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES", another case of his being in disguise that was NOT in the original story being adapted.

Holmes & Watson investigate Rylot's room before Helen's (a reverse of the short story), and when the intended crime is in progress, Holmes has Helen STAY in the room, on the bed, knowing that Rylot will only act if he SEES her there, via a hand-held mirror. This is the only version of the story I've seen where they SHOW Rylot and the snake BEFORE he inserts it into her bedroom.

Perhaps the most touching scene is the finale, where, after Watson invites Holmes to the wedding reception, Holmes aays, "Not in my line." "It comes to all of us!" After Watson leaves, Holmes says to himself... "Not all of us, Watson."

Someone online suggested this film looked and felt VERY much like the 1931 "FRANKENSTEIN" in style, and I agree. It's very slow, stodgy, primitive-seeming, and most of the acting is on a stage or silent film level. Except for Massey, who's relaxed, natural, energetic. Like Boris Karloff in Howard Hawks' "SCARFACE", he's by a wide margin the BEST actor in the film! And his career was only just getting started.

The sets are magnificent, and the main hall in Stoke Moran actually reminds me of the one in the 1958 "DRACULA"!

Now, the real tragedy here... is that over the years, this film has been CUT TO PIECES, at least 22 MINUTES is missing from it (including, it seems, MOST of the red-herring sub-plot about the gypsies), and the only available prints, the picture keep wobbling, jumping at almost constant cuts, and with terrible sound. OH, man, this makes the 1922 John Barrymore film look pristene by comparison. Most reviewers online express a strong wish that someone, somewhere might have a complete print of this, that would make it WORTH it for someone to perform a proper restoration on it. I know I'm one of them!

Knowing in advance of the terrible condition of the film, I went after a cheap (used) copy, seeing no sense in spending twice as much for "brand new". My copy arrived today, loose in the case, scratched all over the place... but, fortunately, it plays fine.

Now by comparison... whoever did this DVD, there's NO company listed anywhere. I suspect it was the "TCM Shop", since they were selling "manufactured on demand" NEW copies (but they said it was "not currently available" when I tried to order one direct from them). The packaging DAMN NEAR makes up for the wretched quality of the film print, as it's one of the NICEST-looking DVD boxes I've ever seen! This made me really glad I avoided getting it on a cheap "twofer" with the 1962 Chris Lee film, which apparently, was in nearly-as-bad shape on that disc. Especially since, only 2 MONTHS ago, that film has FINALLY been issued in WIDESCREEN. (Something to look forward to!)

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« Reply #128 on: August 03, 2021, 03:23:08 AM »

A STUDY IN SCARLET 
(K.B.S. Productions Inc.  /  US  /  1933)

I first saw this some years ago when someone sent me a copy of it on videotape.  I liked it then, and enjoyed it even more tonight watching it on DVD.

Reginald Owen, who reminds me a bit of Ray Milland, may not LOOK like Holmes, but he certainly SEEMS like Holmes.  The story by Robert Florey (who directed a pile of films in various genres & series, never seeming to get nailed down to any one) seems to have been based on Belgian writer Stanislas-Andre Steeman's 1931 detective novel "Six Hommes Morts".  It also managed to pay tribute to bits of existing Holmes stories, including The Sign Of Four, The Red-Headed League, and The Five Orange Pips, with Reginald Owen writing the dialogue to give it as much genuine Holmes flavor as possible.  The film, to me, really feels like a Universal Basil Rathbone film a decade early, only without Rathbone or Bruce.  Oddly enough, it also appears to have inspired Agatha Christie, who I've become convinced was a fan of Doyle, when 6 years later she wrote "Ten Little Indians".

Watching the entire Rathbone series twice recently has also informed me of how many actors appeared in multiple films playing different parts.  Future Rathbone alumni here include Alan Mowbray as Inspector Lestrade, Halliwell Hobbes as Malcolm Deering, Olaf Hytten as Merrydew's butler, and Billy Bevan as Will Swallow.  The latter's genial pub customer reminds me of the sort of humorous characters Hammer Films often inserted into their otherwise intense horror films.

This is yet another film that's sadly fallen into public domain, and is one I would certainly appreciate seeing a really nice restoration done on!









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« Reply #129 on: August 03, 2021, 04:47:22 AM »

Prof said,
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This is yet another film that's sadly fallen into public domain 


I would have thought that was a good thing. For one, if somebody could find a copy, we could host it here in the appropriate section. 

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« Reply #130 on: August 03, 2021, 09:01:43 PM »

On the other hand, the 12 Universal films with Basil Rathbone all having fallen into public domain DID NOT stop someone from performing a major RESTORATION job on them. The thing is, there are countless DVDs with those films out there.,.. but ONLY the MPI box set contains the restorations. At this point, WHY would anybody want to buy the others?

4 films I've gotten recently have been restorations, in fact, all 4 were considered "LOST" at one point!

1914 -- DER HUND -- found in a Russian vault. Poor condition, yet very watchable and lots of fun.

1916 -- SHERLOCK HOLMES with William Gillette -- the single CLEANEST-looking silent film I have ever seen.  And as I've seen clips of how it looked "before", that only makes the restoration job they did on it all the more impressive.  Absolutely-STUNNING to look at!

1922 -- SHERLOCK HOLMES with John Barrymore -- this was discovered in 1970, but was in such horrific, fragmented shape, it took 30 years to do a reconstruction job on it.  As it stands, there's about 25 minutes still missing, and what we have looks like it STILL NEEDS a restoration... despite this, still watchable and fun.

1929 -- DER HUND -- Czech print of a German film found in Poland, with missing passages filled in with bits of a 9 MM home-movie edition from France, and still photos & text.  Depending on which part of the film you're watching, it either looks STUNNING or awful-- but overall, this is my FAVORITE of these 4.

In addition, THE SLEEPING CARDINAL (1931) was long "LOST", but a US print (SHERLOCK HOLMES' FATAL HOUR) was found that was in better shape than the other 3 Arthur Wontner films.  His 2nd film , THE MISSING REMBRANDT, is still... missing (heh).  The other 3 are all available from MULTIPLE companies, in various stages of deterioration.  Someone online said better prints of these have been seen on English TV, but, nobody has bothered putting THOSE copies out on DVD.

As it is, by accident, I wound up the other day with a 2nd version of his THE SIGN OF FOUR (1932). Comparing the 2 DVDs I now have, the new one is slightly more cropped than the other one, but, it has MUCH-CLEANER SOUND.  (Now if only I was able to combine the picture from the one and the sound from the other...)

I have 2 copies of SILVER BLAZE (1937)-- one on videotape (copied from a rental), the other on DVD (a US print, MURDER AT THE BASKERVILLES, which is missing 6 minutes, including the entire opening scene of the film).  Since this one WAS available on VHS decades ago in its UK version, I wonder if the UK version is out there somewhere on DVD?  You would think so...
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« Reply #131 on: August 06, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »

Here is one only just posted on Youtube on July 22.
Sherlock Holmes: The Man Who Disappeared (1951)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya3iTkeUilc

John Longden as Sherlock Holmes

[The Man Who Disappeared 1951 is a quality Sherlock Holmes mystery that was intended for a TV series. The film short was based on Arthur Conan Doyle's 1891 Sherlock Holmes story "The Man with the Twisted Lip".]
['He appeared in six films directed by Alfred Hitchcock: Blackmail (1929), Juno and the Paycock (1930), Elstree Calling (1930), The Skin Game (1931), Young and Innocent (1937) and Jamaica Inn (1939).']

Just about to watch it.

Cheers!
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« Reply #132 on: August 06, 2021, 05:12:50 PM »

I've got that on DVD, it was one of the rarities included in a 3-disc set, SHERLOCK HOLMES: THE ARCHIVE COLLECTION, Volume 1.

Longdon was okay, but Campbell Singer as Watson was the one who really impressed me.  In 1962 he was the first of 4 different actors to play Inspector Claude Eustace Teal on THE SAINT with Roger Moore (the best of the lot).  After the part was recast, a few years later he came back playing a different character.  He was also in 2 episodes of THE AVENGERS and a lot of other things.

They "played" with the plot of this adaptation a bit, adding a different reason for the husband to have gone missing in disguise than was in the original.  The story's also been adapted with Douglas Wilmer in 1965 and Jeremy Brett in the 80s.  They're both good, but I think I prefer the Wilmer version a bit.
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« Reply #133 on: August 06, 2021, 05:29:50 PM »

There was a whole string of attempts to do a SHERLOCK HOLMES tv series in the 50s...

1949 - THE SPECKLED BAND -- an episode of "Your Story Time" with Alan Napier as Holmes, Evelyn Ankers as Miss Stoner, and Edgar Barrier as Dr. Grimesby Roylott.  I've seen it twice so far, very enjoyable.

1950 - SHERLOCK HOLMES -- unsold tv pilot with Basil Rathbone! Considered "LOST".

1951 - THE MAN WHO DISAPPEARED -- John Longdon & Campbell Singer

1951 - SHERLOCK HOLMES -- 6-episode BBC series with Alan Wheatley & Raymond Francis. Like the later BBC series with Wilmer, Cushing & Brett, all adaptations of original Doyle stories.  Apparently, went out live and was NEVER RECORDED!

1953 - THE BLACK BARONET -- episode of "Suspense" with Basil Rathbone & Martyn Green.  Considered "LOST".

1954 - SHERLOCK HOLMES -- American producer working in France with French, English & Scottish actors.  39 episodes starring Ronald Howard & H. Marion Crawford.  Although only very few are adaptations, most are original stories, I've come to love this as much or more than the Jeremy Brett series (it's generally a LOT MORE FUN).  Apparently, a 2nd series was planned, but never happened!  Many of these stories were REMADE by the same producer 25 years later... in Poland.

1955 - DER HUND VON BASKERVILLE -- German TV production with Wolf Ackva & Arnulf Schroder.  "NO record".  A shame, considering the 1929 & 1937 German films both apparently had some influence on ther 1959 Hammer version, I can't help but wonder if this one, made only 4 years earlier, might have as well.

1957 - THE RED HEADED LEAGUE -- epsode of "Odyssey" with Michael Clarke Lawrence.  This is an odd one, as I'm sure I ran across this in a book on Holmes films I have, yet I have recently been UNABLE to find any mention of it online!
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« Reply #134 on: August 08, 2021, 09:18:46 PM »

SHERLOCK HOLMES
(Williamstown Theatre Festival / HBO Standing Room Only / 11-15-1981)

I just had to dig this one out, to compare with the William Gillette & John Barrymore films.  While those are silents adapting Gillette's stage play, this is a film of an actual PERFORMANCE of the stage play.  As such, it's probably far more authentic to the play than the Gillette film itself was.

Having been a regular theatre-goer for a few years in the early 90s, I can tell you, there's a unique style and energy about a LIVE stage play unlike anything else.  Someone at the IMDB argued that this does not translate well to film or TV.  I disagree.  If you go in knowing what you're watching, you CAN enjoy it on those terms.  AND BOY-- DID I !!!  This had to be at least the 3rd time I've seen it, but having now seen those 2 silent films, I wound up appreciating this EVEN MORE than I did before.  Apart from knowing the story, I also wound up knowing a number of the actors in this one.

Apparently, the version run on HBO cut the early part of the play, and replaced it with Watson reading into his diary about Holmes' "last" case, one the public was unaware of before.  Then it went on from the point the villains are trying to coerce Alice Faulkner to reveal where she's hidden the love letters the royal prince wrote to her now-dead sister. After quite a build-up, Holmes arrives, and the audience burst into WILD applause!

Like many of the Rathbone films and the 2 with Ian Richardson, Gillette's story was an original, influenced by and peppered with references to several Doyle stories.  These include "A Scandal In Bohemia", "The Sign Of Four", "The Final Problem", and I feel certain a couple others.  The bit where Holmes figures out that Watson has moved his shaving table is familar, but I can't recall from where offhand. Being a stage-bound play, the big climax of "The Final Problem" was altered to take place first in a gas chamber, then in Watson's office.  The bit of a disguised cabby invited in and having handcuffs slapped on actually comes from the climax of "A Study In Scarlet".

Oddly enough, using a gas chamber as a murder weapon turned up in "The Retired Colorman"-- except in that case, Doyle wrote the story 2 decades after Gillette wrote the stage play!

It was interesting to see a couple of scenes in the play that were visually expanded in the silent films.  These include Billy getting into a fight while Moriarty goes to see Holmes face-to-face, or Alice hiding the letters in the shutters outside her bedroom window.

The cast includes Susan Clark (COOGAN'S BLUFF, MADIGAN) as Madge Larrabee, the brains of her husband-wife team; Tom Atkins (THE HOWLING) as Craigin, one of Moriarty's thugs, and George Morfogen as Moriarty, one of the more impressive versions I've seen outside of George Zucco.

Funny enough, 4 of the key characters were played by actors who all had STAR TREK
connections:

Billy, a part originally done onstage by a young Charlie Chaplin, is Christian Slater, so young as to be unrecognizable.  He had a brief cameo in STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY.

Bassick, Moriarty's right-hand man, is Dwight Schultz, before he starred on THE A-TEAM and later became a recurring character on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION.

Larrabee, the very arrogant but not all that bright villain, is Stephen Collins, 2 years after STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE.

Sherlock Holmes, of course, is FRANK LANGELLA, 2 years after DRACULA, and a decade before he turned up in a 3-parter on STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.

Most of this, I enjoyed immensely.  It's played far more for laughs than the 1916 or 1922 films were.  Oddly enough, while I did enjoy the ending of both the Gillette & Barrymore films, in this version, I didn't care as much for the ending, which involves Holmes deciding to give up being a detective, seeing Baker Street burned to the ground, and admitting he's fallen in love with Alice Faulkner.  Oh well!  This last bit is more interesting than it might be, in light of the 1932 Clive Brook film, which picks up EXACTLY where this story leaves off!

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« Reply #135 on: August 12, 2021, 02:36:50 PM »

DER HUND VON BASKERVILLE 
(Ondra-Lamac Film  /  Germany  /  1937)

Before I dove head-first into the silents, I was very much looking forward to getting this.  Now that I have, I wound up enjoying it immensely!

This was the 3rd German adaptation of Doyle's novel, and it seems all 3 had some influence on the famous 1959 Hammer version.  The story starts in the past, showing the events of the "legend".  But then, like the 1968 BBC version, it focuses on events leading up to Sir Charles' death.  It's more than a half hour in before we finally get our first glimpse of Holmes.  And what an unsual depiction it is!  Holmes wears a turtleneck sweater, a leather jacket & a worker's cap-- as someone said, "Proletariat" instead of "Elite".  What struck me as funny the first time I saw this, it seemed he wore the same outfit that Christopher Eccleston did on DOCTOR WHO-- the one some character joked made him look like a "u-boat captain".

As in most versions of the story, Holmes sends Watson to Dartmoor, but in this case, he never meets Sir Henry until the film's nearing its climax.

Perhaps the biggest change is the early introduction of Beryl, who admits to being a "distant cousin".  She visits Sir Charles before his death, then hangs around and gets very friendly with Sir Henry.  Watson, who briefly tries to hide his identity under a false name, eyes her as a suspect, since she might have been in line for the inheritance, until the existence of Henry became known.

In the end, we find out that Beryl and Stapleton are really brother and sister-- JUST like in the Rathbone film 2 years later, except, while she was somehow completely unaware of her heritage in that one, and innocent of the murder plot, here, she was known to be related from the first, but wanted no part of the murder plot once she found out about it.

Watson is shown to be really inteligent in this version, and quite capable of picking up the smallest clues on his own.  Holmes works to his own methods, and only contributes key info where really needed.  I think having a smart sidekick makes the hero look even smarter, which this film certainly does.

Stapleton, as played by Erich Ponto, is a light-hearted eccentric crank naturalist, who likes to sing to himself, and openly hates women.  One reviewer suggested he might be the "best" version of the character ever seen on film! 

One extended scene has Watson vising Stapleton (the naturalist) and using his telescope to see someone prowling around on the moors.  This is similar to the 1959 film, where they made Frankland the local priest AND the naturalist.  In the original story, of course, it was Frankland's telescope, but he was an entirely-different character.  I'm reminded of how some years back, I watched a mini-marathon of several version of "HOUND" back-to-back, and TOOK NOTES to keep track of which characters were in each film.

Two things really make this film stand out for me.  One is the dark, visual moodiness of it, which someone suggested totally blew the 1939 Rathbone film out of the water by comparison. The other, which somehow caught me completely by surprise this week, was the dialogue.  The 1st time I saw this on Youtube, someone had posted it in German without subtitles.  Later, I watched it again, with English subtitles.  But this time, watching it on my mid-sized TV, I was suddenly struck by just HOW DAMNED FUNNY so much of the dialogue is. The interactions between so many characters had me laughing out loud in many places.  The balance between "spooky" and "funny" has really upped this film in my eyes, even with its oddities.

One scene has Dr. Mortimer describing Sir Henry as a very calm, level-headed person... and then they CUT to Henry throwing a tantrum, angrily throwing something across a room, as he finds out one of his boots has been stolen at his hotel.  This kind of quick-cut for contrast I've seen a lot, including the Tom Baker DOCTOR WHO story "Image of the Fendahl", where Leela described The Doctor as "gentle" just before we saw Baker KICK a crate in the room he was locked in. Nice comic timing in the editing.

I've seen 3 different versions of this on DVD available.  Koch Media in Germany (2009 / no idea if this has subtitles or not), Rare Films and More (2016 w/ English subtitles and allegedly "improved image", which I can't confirm without the other discs), and Sinister Cinema (year unknown, DUBBED into English!).  Oddly enough, I saw no point of getting the dubbed version, as I'd rather hear the actors in their own voices, and have no trouble reading subtitles-- although I must admit, a few of them went by WAY too fast, faster than I could read.  I wound up scrolling back and using "pause" a few times.

The Rare Films And More disc is on a DVD-R (the seller made a point of telling me this), which played fine on my regular DVD player.  The menu is a bit wonky, but I managed.  In addition to optional subtitles, the disc also comes with an extra that would be at home on The HIstory Channel-- a 20-minute GERMAN newsreel showing the "peaceful" occupation of Denmark & Norway, "to protect those countries' neutrailty".  OH REALLY??? I'm a bit baffled they didn't include the trailer for the film.  The only thing that bugs me (but only a bit) is that they have a "Rare Films & More" logo in the corner of the screen for the entire length of the movie.  That I could have done without.

This film gained some noteriety as being one of two that were discovered in Hitler's bunker after he committed suicide.   :D

Bruno Guttner (Holmes) apparently only made 3 films, before entering the German army (he died sometime during the war), while Fritz Odemar (Watson) went on to quite a long career in German films.  Fritz Rasp, rather spooky as Barrymore, had played Stapleton in the 1929 version!





Barrymore & Beryl


Watson & Stapleton


Bruno Guttner as Holmes
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« Reply #136 on: August 13, 2021, 01:05:55 AM »


What struck me as funny the first time I saw this, it seemed he wore the same outfit that Christopher Eccleston did on DOCTOR WHO-- the one some character joked made him look like a "u-boat captain".


If I'm not mistaken the coat was supposed to be an actual U-boat captain's coat the Dr had purloined during a previous off screen time hopping adventure. It may have been a WW1 issued coat rather than WW2 issued.

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« Reply #137 on: August 13, 2021, 03:27:59 AM »


If I'm not mistaken the coat was supposed to be an actual U-boat captain's coat the Dr had purloined during a previous off screen time hopping adventure. It may have been a WW1 issued coat rather than WW2 issued.


That would make sense!  I think it was Captain Jack who kidded him... "U-BOAT CAPTAIN?"

The 1st time I saw the 1937 HOUND, it struck me it had several things in common with the 1959 Hammer film. And the thought crossed my mind, how many cultural things connected England & Germany over centuries. The possibility that that film may also have influenced WHO decades later still, amused me no end.


I think it took 2 years after I saw those Eccleston episodes, before it suddenly hit me... between having a long black coat, and his general physique, Eccleston reminded me A LOT of William Hartnell's Doctor... only, when he would have been much younger, maybe middle-aged.
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« Reply #138 on: August 18, 2021, 09:40:57 PM »

SHERLOCK HOLMES (1916)

Re-watched this on Monday.  Having just re-watched the 1981 recording of the live stage play, I wanted to see how it compared with the movie that actually starred the original cast of the play.

They CUT a lot of dialogue and humor in the movie adaptation. The play was like half comedy, but the film is mostly pretty serious. I coudln't help but get double-images in my head of the actors from the '81 performance, particularly Stephen Collins & Dwight Schultz. I thought Susan Clark was better looking as the smarter half of the Larrabees, but on the other hand, the girl who played Alice Faulkner in the 1916 film (and the original play) was MUCH PRETTIER.

There were a number of things mentioned but never seen in the play that they expanded visually in the film.  This included the butler settng fire to the kitchen. Alice hiding the papers behind the window shutters, Billy fighting in the foyer with one of Moriarty's thugs, and bits of Watson at home or in his office when he just wasn't in those parts of the stage play.

Overall, the film version, being a SILENT film, seemed less developed story and character-wise than the play.  On the other hand, I actually LIKED what they did with the ending in the film more than in the play.  the play made a BIG DEAL about Holmes considering retiring from crime, with nothing left to live for since beating Moriarty, and deciding to MARRY Alice.  It was played far more subtly in the film.  Holmes admits he tricked Alice, and while he says he loves her, he also feels he would not be a suitable companion for her.  She counters by saying, "Wait.  I think we have a lot to talk about."  and a TITLE card read... "AND HE STAYED."  Nice.  So it kind of left it up in the air, to the audience's interpretation, as to what did or didn't happen next.

Re-watching this, it struck me that Clive Brook kind of looked a bit like William Gillette, which was fitting casting, since Brook's 2 films both appear to be intended as SEQUELS to the play, which was the only thing Samuel Goldwyn had bought the rights to adapt (not Doyle's original stories).  That distinction is specifically WHY the 47 Eille Norwood films from England went almost UNSEEN in America, as Goldwyn (THE BASTARD!) did al he cold to try and prevent their distribution here.

It reminds me a bit of the conflict between MGM and Edgar Rice Burroughs regarding competing film versions of TARZAN in the 1930s.

HOLMES


MORIARTY and HOLMES


THE LARRABEES and the safe-cracker


HOLMES and ALICE

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« Reply #139 on: August 18, 2021, 10:12:49 PM »

Restoration sample:
https://vimeo.com/128699218
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« Reply #140 on: August 24, 2021, 04:13:09 PM »

LELICEK VE SLUZBACH SHERLOCKA HOLMESA
("Lelicek In The Services of Sherlock Holmes")
(Elektrafilm  /  Czechoslovakia  / 1932)

A few weeks back, I accidentally ran across this film at a Holmes-related website.  I wrote it down in my index.  Then, just as I was about to take a break from Holmes (figuring I'd gotten all the 1930s films I was going to), on an urge, I went to Ebay to see if anyone was selling this.  Someone WAS!  In fact, the seller, in The Czech Republic, clearly wanted to sell to buyers in America.  The listing said, "English subtitles", it said "Region 0", and the prices were in US Dollars!  And, the shipping was very reasonable.  (Especially compared to Italy-- heh.)  It was only a bit concerning that he included a warning that the disc "may not play on all US players", but, I figured, I have 3-- it ought to work on ONE of them.

Well, I ordered it, it got here 2-1/2 weeks before scheduled, and, yes, it DID play-- on both my Blu-Ray Player, and my computer DVD drive.  But NOT on my regular DVD player, where, twice, it said, "unsupported disc".  Well, no worries!

The entire menu was in Czech, so it was a bit challenging, but I found the English subtitles. I only wish the MANY extra features had subtltles, but what the hey.  The quality of the film print is somewhat worn, but for a 1932 film, not bad, and it's certainly in MUCH better shape than the 1931 Raymond Massey "SPECKLED BAND".  A lot of old films could use restorations.  Right now, I think it's just a miracle I'm able to watch this at all!

The film is a COMEDY.  It focuses on a poor guy (Vlasta Burian, known as "King of the Comics" in his country), who's always broke, who's hired to impersonate the ruler of a small country who's terrified of "anarchists" and assassination attempts.  Holmes (Martin Frič) is essentially reduced to a "straight man" in this.  Physically, he reminds me a bit of Peter Cook, except he plays his role entirely serious.

The photography in this looks very "silent movie"-era (no surprise, given when it was made), but the humor is like what you'd get if you crossed The Marx Brothers with Woody Allen.  Really, this is one of the FUNNIEST films I've seen all year.  I could not stop laughing for most of its length.  Pretty amazing for a film in a foreign language where I'm reading subtitles.

A lot of the humor, once you get past the personality of the main character, is situational, as it quickly become obvious the real King is more cowardly than his imposter, and the fake King is more dynamic, more outgoing, more "take-charge", and becomes far more popular not only with his people, but with The Queen!  Holmes still manages to play an important role, as twice he saves them from being murdered.  But it's funny to see the man who's so intelligent and capable, increasingly lose control of the situation.

HIGHLY reccomended!


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« Reply #141 on: August 27, 2021, 03:51:49 AM »

Belgian comic publisher Claude Lefrancq ?diteur put out a series of Sherlock Holmes comics.  Most of these were adaptions of Conan Dolye stories. For mine, the most interesting is an adaption of 'The giant rat of Sumatra'. This was one of the cases Watson mentioned but didn't write. These case titles are a rich source of inspiration for those who wish to write Holmes stories. 'The Giant Rat' has been attempted a few times.
my french is pretty basic, but I've perused a copy. Lots of gory pictures of shot or squashed rats, but it looks like a good story.     
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« Reply #142 on: August 28, 2021, 01:08:22 PM »

THE SIGN OF FOUR  (1923)

Although the final of Eillie Norwood's 47 Holmes films (45 shorts & 2 features) does not appear to be on DVD anywhere (Alpha Video had it listed, BUT, that turns out to have been a mistake which I've had them correct!), someone posted a really fluttery video of it on Youtube.  And with NO music.  Oy.  Well, at least I've seen it now.

This made quite a few interesting alterations to the story, and not merely in the structure or order it's told, as with some others.

In this version, it's Major Sholto (not his son) who contacts Mary Morstan and tells her, Holmes & Watson of the treasure. He's not murdered until they reach his house.  Inspector Jones, after having the plot explained to him, instead decides it's an organ grinder & his monkey who are responsible.  This turns out to actually be Holmes in disguise, hanging out in Limehouse to befriend Jonathan Small and get the goods on the real ring-leader, Abdullah Khan (whose physical presence reminds me of Thadeus Sholto in the 1983 version).  Small is apprehended and his dwarf sidekick shot in Limehouse before Holmes finds out Watsaon & Mary have been lured back to the Twickenham house by Abdullah Khan, who tortures them both to discover where Sholto hid the treasure.

The climax involves a chaotic boat and car chase with 3 speedboats and a full-size yacht, on which Mary is a prisoner when it suddenly catches fire.  Khan manages to nab Khan and secure the treasure, before later getting a wedding announcement from his friend & Mary.

I'd love to see this (and as many of the Norwood films that are still in existence) restored & issued as a DVD box set.  This was very tiresome to sit through, both for the fluttery and for the complete lack of any music (neither of which was a problem with "The Musgrave Ritual" from 1912 I saw on Youtube just last week).  On top of everything else, it appears someone inexplicably managed to edit in part of the torture scenes right in the middle of the boat chase-- and I'm pretty sure it wasn't intended as a mental flashback.  How does one accomplish a glitch like that when knocking out a video?


"Revelator" at the IMDB did the best review I've seen:

A Holmesian Thriller
Revelator_6 June 2014
Never released in US, The Sign of Four received a belated premiere at the San Francisco Silent Film Festival, giving American Sherlockians an introduction to Eille Norwood, whose portrayal of Sherlock Holmes earned raves from no less than Conan Doyle. Based on the evidence of this feature, Norwood definitely belongs in the company of Basil Rathbone, Peter Cushing, Jeremy Brett, and Benedict Cumberbatch.

No one has bettered Conan Doyle's explanation of Norwood's appeal: "He has that rare quality which can only be described as glamour, which compels you to watch an actor eagerly even when he is doing nothing. He has the brooding eye which excites expectation and he has also a quite unrivalled power of disguise." Norwood is indeed a master of stillness and quiet intensity. Though old for the part, his haggard face and severe eyes command attention (along with his moments of wry humor). The film opens and closes on Norwood's face, masking the frame to reveal Holmes staring down the audience.

Norwood's Holmes is straight from the books, but purists should be warned that this film takes many liberties with Conan Doyle's novella. And that's perfectly understandable--silent film is not the most suitable medium for the Holmes stories, which heavily rely on dialogue and exposition. A faithful silent adaptation of "The Sign of Four" would have drowned in a sea of inter-titles. Maurice Elvey, who adapted and directed the film, instead chose to turn Doyle's whodunit into a thriller. Holmes does less detective work, and much of it is off-screen. The long flashback in the novel is drastically reduced and dealt with early on, along with the solution of the mystery and the culprits.

Major Sholto appears instead of his sons, Jonathan Small and Tonga have much reduced roles, and the film introduces a new villain, Prince Abdullah Khan. He's unsubtly played in brownface and identified as a "Hindoo" by Holmes (who is mistaken--"Abdullah" is an Islamic name, meaning "slave of Allah" in Arabic). Additionally, the Four signers of the title are different characters and lack the camaraderie Doyle gave them. That, along with the extensive use of hamming in brownface (and details like cutting between a monkey and "pygmy" as they doff hats), results in a film that's arguably more racist than its source material from 30 years earlier. An additional defect is under-use of Watson (a common problem in silent Holmes films), played by the stolid and mustache-less Arthur Cullin, though he has a fun scene of wondering "What would Holmes do?"

Once expectations of textual fidelity are put aside, "Sign" can be enjoyed as a nifty thriller, thanks to its brisk pacing and flair. Maurice Elvey's direction is stylish and inventive. Wipes are used to transition to and from flashbacks, and a flash-cut reveals the source of one of Holmes's deductions. When Holmes divulges his conclusions, flashbacks show him superimposed, lending a ghostly effect to the narration of previously unseen events. The film is strong in mood, opening with a shot of a "pearl grey afternoon in Baker Street" (though Watson later enters 114 instead of 221B!), and the use of shadows is splendidly inventive. Elvey also throws in scene of seamy working-class London in a Limehouse bar.

The climax expands Doyle's original chase, adding a damsel in distress and a car-versus-boat race across London and the Thames. It's practically a tour of the city, with landmarks announced through inter-titles ("Putney Bridge," "Hyde Park Corner" etc). The concluding speedboat chase still impresses, with the camera perched close to waterline or on top of the boats as they plow through the waves. You can see why Holmes faces the camera upon hearing the case and says "This is going to be exciting." It still is.



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« Reply #143 on: August 30, 2021, 02:50:05 AM »

"The Speckled Band" (1964)

"What arrogance-- confusing ME with Scotland Yard!  I'll HAVE him for that, Watson-- COUNT on it!"

I think this is the only version of this story that features this line.  I suspect Douglas Wilmer wrote it himself.  It's funny as hell.  It makes it seem Holmes doesn't want to nail Grimeby Roylott for MURDER, but instead for accusing him of being a police stooge.

"It was the TRUTH!"
"But not the WHOLE truth."
"The truth is, I-- am responsible for his death.  But I doubt it was worry my conscience much."


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« Reply #144 on: August 31, 2021, 03:53:30 PM »

THE MAN WHO WAS SHERLOCK HOLMES   
(Universum Film (UFA) / Germany / 1937)

EPIC comedy-adventure!     *****   (5 out of 5)

This film has it all.  Mystery, adventure, comedy, romance, music, suspense, danger, action! It's an amazing roller-coster ride where for much of the story, you can't even guess where the plot is going, and by the time it's over, you're not only exhausted, you're overwhelmingly satisfied.  I had tears in my eyes during the final scene.

2 down-on-their luck private eyes hit on a crazy scheme to drive up business-- impersonate a pair of FICTIONAL characters, who are so well-known, many people actually think they really exist.  Pushing their luck beyond all reason, going on sheer energy and nerve, things actually work in their favor when they encounter not only a bank robbery but a huge counterfeiting scheme that's been going on for years. Now all they have to do is solve the crimes, stay alive while they do it, and keep the police from locking them up until they've succeeded.

Being this is a German film, I knew none of the people involved, but it cracked me up how much the 2 leads reminded me of George C. Scott & Peter Lorre.

The finale scene, which takes place in a courtroom, brings to mind the climax of "HOW TO MURDER YOUR WIFE".  I figured I'd enjoy this film beforehand, but never imagined HOW MUCH.










Tom Ruffles also has a nice review of the film here...
http://tomruffles.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-man-who-was-sherlock-holmes-der.html
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« Reply #145 on: September 08, 2021, 09:28:07 PM »

Having polished off pretty much everything currently available from the 30s, I'm now taking a break and re-watching the silents I have in chronological order (having done research to find out the original release dates of just about every item I've acquired on DVD).  I started in on the earliest ones some weeks back, when I had delays in buying, so here's where I'm picking up...


THE MYSTERY OF THE LEAPING FISH
(Triangle Film Corporation / US / 1916)

Douglas Fairbanks stars in this insane, outragious farce about Coke Ennyday, "the world's #1 scientific detective", who wears check outfits and is constantly engaged in non-stop DRUG USE, while the local authorities have hired him to investigate a FOREIGN drug importing business. My understand is, even Fairbanks himself was so embarassed at having made this comedy, he tried to have it yanked from circulation, and possibly have all film prints destroyed.  But here it is, to the amusement and dismay of modern viewers of silents...


THE DYING DETECTIVE
(Stoll Pictures Productions / UK / 1921)

Apart from the years, the original release dates in England are not listed at the IMDB, but THIS is listed as the 1st of Eillie Norwood's 47 Holmes films.  He looks into the mysterious death of a man who somehow got a rare Asian disease in England, suspects and accuses a medical man of being the culprit, and thereby inspires the doctor to MURDER Holmes in the identical fashion.

But Holmes was expecting this, and manages to avoid being POISONED in like fashion... though, he spends the next several days IN BED, to give the false image that he is dying.  He then has Watson go to the man asking for help, and sure enough, the guy not only arrives, but winds up gloating, telling Holmes how he committed the crime. Which is what Holmes wanted the whole time-- a CONFESSION, which  Watson has been a witness to.

According to "Nitrateville.com", nearly all of Norwood's films appear to have survived, and the BFI has copies in their vaults.  I've contacted 3 different organizations, urging them to get ahold of these and do RESTORATIONS for a comprehensive box set.  Until someone actually does, only 3 of Norwood's short films are currently available, and his 2nd feature is on Youtube, that that one has NO music and is very difficult to plow thru.


OH MY GOD!!!  I contacted the BFI on June 14th.  What I didn't know until just this minute was... an article about this very thing was posted on June 10th !!! It looks like they ARE going to restore those films!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D  This really gives me something major to look for.

https://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?t=31778
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« Reply #146 on: September 12, 2021, 04:01:07 PM »

THE DEVIL'S FOOT
(Stoll Pictures Productions / UK / 1921)

Holmes & Watson are on the Cornish coast for a restful holiday.  "It's a good thing you aren't likely to run across a case here."  "You never can tell, my dear Watson." They decided to stop at the nearest house to ask directions to the Inn... but stumble across 3 DEAD people, sitting around a table, with no signs of violence.  The police arrive moments later, but are happy to take a back-seat once they realize who they've found standing over the bodies.

Holmes learns that Mortimer Treginnis, brother of the 3 dead people, once argued over separation of property.  "But that's all been forgotten years ago."  Also on the scene is Dr. Sterndale, a famous African explorer.  Holmes tells Watson Treginnis lied about what he did when he left, and the next morning, he goes with the police to have him arrested... only to find HE's dead in the exact same way as his siblings!

Holmes finds a strange powder in the lamp, identical to at the other scene, plus, some oddly-colored gravel outside the window.  He tells the police to meet him at Sterndale's house later that day, and he'll tell them who murdered Mortimer.  Holmes then does something INCREDIBLY stupid... he demonstrates to Watson how the power causes a toxic gas to fill a room, almost killing both Watson and himself in the process!  Hallucinating, they stumble outside, just as Sterndale arrives.  "You sent for me?"  "Yes.  I want you tell me WHY you killed Mortimer Treginnis!"  It strikes me it's a scene very similar to when Auguste Dupin told the sailor, "I want you tell tell me all you know about the murders in the Rue Morgue."

Holmes says his next actions will depend on Sterndale's story.  It seems he spent years in Africa, the whole time in love with Barbara Treginnis.  He returned some months earlier, and learned Mortimer was in need of money.  He showed him his "curios", not making anything of it, until he saw his love sitting there dead.  He KNEW Sterndale used the ritual powder from Africa.  He got Mortimer's attention by tossing gravel from his yard at his window, then, at gunpoint, forced him to write a confession.  After this, he told the terrified man, "YOU'RE going to die just like they did!", and proceeded to trap him in his room with the powder burning.

Holmes asks, "What was you intention if this was found out?"  Sterndale indicates suicide with his own gun.  "And if you were NOT discovered?"  In shock, Sterndale says, "To lose myself in Africa for the rest of my days, my work there is only half done."  The police arrive, and after some thought, Holmes hands them the confession note.  "I think you'll find Mortimer committed suicide in the same way as he killed the others."  It just now struck me, this bit was like when Harry Callahan, in "SUDDEN IMPACT", told the cops in that coastal town, "I think you'll find his gun was responsible for ALL the killings.".  Sterndale, the police, and Holmes & Watson, all go their separate ways.



Well, at 29 minutes, this was fairly simplified and compressed, compared to the 1965 and 1988 versions, but quite nicely done.  The music score in interesting, going from moody to sprightly, and I'd bet some people would think some of the more lively passages totally at odds with the scenes of serious investigation going on.  But to me, it keeps your energy up and helps hold your interest.

With the recent knowledge that the 40 Norwood films known to exist (7 from his first series appear to be "LOST") about to be "restored", I wonder if before too long we'll have a NICER-looking version of this to watch?  apart from being a bit dark in spots, and one of the inter-titles looking really ragged (compared to the rest of the film), this one's not bad as it currently stands.

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« Reply #147 on: September 13, 2021, 01:28:40 AM »

Three Holmes Docos

documentary, The Many Faces of Sherlock Holmes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjij2Vf_pkg

Christopher Lee - Narrator. Some great information here.

Sherlock Holmes - The Great Detective Documentary (featuring David Burke)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LWCto4Fs8A

The Life And Death Of Sherlock Holmes  Absolute History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7kb2kn9fZs

Prof a question,which actor, would you say played Holmes more times?
Christopher Lee, Rathbone, [and as the doco says Rathbone played holmes more times than we think - and if we counted Radio he would win hands down. ]  or who?   
I have no idea.

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« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2021, 02:51:42 AM »

I don't know about the radio shows.  But I had heard somewhere that Rathbone & Bruce did about 500 EPISODES of the radio show....  (That may be wrong, but I haven't looked it up myself.)

Clive Merrison, on the other hand, apparently is the ONLY actor to ever star in adaptations of EVERY SINGLE Arthur Conan Doyle HOLMES story in his radio show.

Eille Norwood did 45 shorts & 2 feature films (of which, it currently appear 7 of them are considered "lost").  So he just barely beats out Jeremy Brett.



Christopher Lee played Holmes 3 times on film--

THE NECKLACE OF DEATH
INCIDENT AT VICTORIA FALLS
THE LEADING LADY


He also did a number of book-on-tape recordings.  I got "The Valley of Fear" around 25 years ago, but never knew he'd done more until a few months ago.  I've heard several more on Youtube of late.  They're amazing recordings.


I'm still jazzed about the news about the Eille Norwood restoration project.  About 2 months after someone here suggested I contact the BFI, I did... but as I found out several months later, only 4 days before I did, it was announced the BFI was planning to do a massive restoration project.

The site I read about it on, Nitrateville, is a message board.  I signed up for an account... but never had mny account activated.  I contacted the moderator last week... NO REPLY.  WTF?



Today, I watched 2 different versions of "The Devil's Foot" -- 1921, and 1965.  I liked both, though, for many reasons, the 1965 version was far better.  What i found interesting was, the 2 scenes in the 1921 version I "connected" with OTHER stories, neither of them appeared in the 1965 version. 

As I said, I really need to read more of the Doyle stories.  On that score, these days, I'm more of an expert on POE than Doyle.  I even read Poe's only novel... TWICE!

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« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2021, 05:11:55 AM »

Lee was involved with Holmes and Conan Doyle in other ways tho.
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Christopher Lee (27 may 1922 - 7 june 2015) was a British actor who played Sir Henry Baskerville in The Hound of the Baskervilles in 1959 with Peter Cushing, before playing Sherlock Holmes in Sherlock Holmes und das Halsband des Todes (Sherlock Holmes and The Deadly Necklace) in 1962 and in TV movies: Sherlock Holmes and the Leading Lady (1991) and Incident at Victoria Falls (1992). He also played Mycroft Holmes in The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes in 1970.

He also played Arnaud in 1973 in the non-sherlockian Conan Doyle's story The Leather Funnel of the TV Series Great Mysteries. 


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