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A stupid question about stupid songs

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crashryan

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A stupid question about stupid songs
« on: August 02, 2022, 03:49:07 AM »

A friend and I (who obviously had nothing better to do) fell to discussing songs that describe how to perform a dance. Two examples would be "The Time Warp" from The Rocky Horror Picture Show and Judy Garland's old song "Ballin' the Jack." The rule is that the song can't just celebrate the dance or exhort people to do the dance. It must spell out how the dance is done. "The Twist" doesn't qualify because it doesn't offer any instructions beyond "round and around and around." The Bangles' "Walk like an Egyptian" does qualify since it offers instructions like "slide your feet up the street, bend your back / Shift your arm, then you pull it back," though what that means is subject to debate.

Little Eva's "The Loco-Motion" qualifies. The lyrics to DJ Casper's "Cha Cha Slide" are practically an instruction booklet. On the other hand the disco favorite "The Hustle" doesn't count because it says nothing but "do it, do it, do the hustle." That old preschool favorite "The Hokey Pokey" fits the template perfectly. Most "how-to" songs are silly, but fun.

What are your favorite how-to songs? One I like from my preferred music era, the 1920s-1930s, is "College Rhythm," which Lyda Roberti sang in the movie of the same name (1934).

Snap your fingers, walk around a bit,
Shake your shoulders, go to town a bit,
When it's gotcha, you'll get hotcha;
That's college rhythm!

Tilt your skirt or tilt your pants a bit,
First you strut, and then you dance a bit,
Do it lowdown, hi-de-ho town;
That's college rhythm!

Sway, and then you'll stop,
And then you'll hop,
And then you just must add a little rumba!

It's so easy, there's no trick in it,
Learn it quick and get the kick in it,
All the world will soon be doin' it!
Hey, professor! Yes-yes-yessir,
That's college rhythm!


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paw broon

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Re: A stupid question about stupid songs
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2022, 08:21:51 AM »

Great idea and question but soooooo frustrating.  I came up with some titles right away only to realise there weren't instructions in the lyrics.  e.g. Bobby Rydell - The Cha-Cha-Cha:  The Undertakers - Mashed Potato: Tennesee Waltz.
But how about The Royal Guardsman - The Hucklebuck?  An Irish showband who had a big hit with this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLILwWNeSjg
Double Dutch - Malcolm McLaren:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STCTCgQ3XJU
There is an extended 8 minute version also on you tube.
Do the Dip?  Where does that come from?

Amending this to add...................... how could I forget Shake?  This is the Otis version:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohkFgdCE2yQ

I've always loved Joey Dee and The Starlighters, What Kind of Love is This, and as it popped into my head I realised one of their other hits was Peppermint Twist.  I'm sure the instructions were in the lyrics.
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SuperScrounge

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Re: A stupid question about stupid songs
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2022, 10:30:12 AM »

In elementary and Junior high they tried to teach us square dancing, which, if I recall correctly, had the singer telling the dancers what to do.

"Swing your partner to and fro, toward the window, let 'em go!"  ;) (May not be actual lyrics.)

While not a dance the song Skeet Surfin' from the movie Top Secret does explain how to skeet surf.  ;)
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crashryan

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Re: A stupid question about stupid songs
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2022, 10:45:01 AM »

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In elementary and Junior high they tried to teach us square dancing, which, if I recall correctly, had the singer telling the dancers what to do.


I thought of square dancing. They taught us that in school, too. I'm not sure if square dances fit our arbitrary guidelines. Does a given dance always have the same moves? I got the impression that the caller made stuff up as he went along, so a song would have different "lyrics" every time it was performed. Is anyone here a square dance expert?
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crashryan

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2022, 10:47:53 AM »

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I came up with some titles right away only to realise there weren't instructions in the lyrics.


"The Monster Mash" was one of those. Even though it caught on in a flash, the only moves the song suggests is "to get a jolt from my electrodes."
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The Australian Panther

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2022, 11:24:14 AM »

Coast To Coast - (Do) The Hucklebuck (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4Tc0N1KKk

Bucks Fizz - Making Your Mind Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-lKMGII_k

Van McCoy & Pan's People ? Do the Hustle (1975)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kE0rvAJhM

Monster Mash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2PoSljk8cE

Do the Propeller! | The Wiggles | Kids Songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUIGqjohSo8

The Twist - Chubby Checker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw

Don't know about Bucks Fizz!
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paw broon

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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2022, 12:26:17 PM »

Not The Twist Panther.  As crash says, no instructions.  Your list means I have to subject myself to Bucks Fizz 'cos I don't think there are instructions.   
This is driving me bananas and I can't get some of those tunes out of my head.
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paw broon

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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2022, 03:31:43 PM »

Does The Hippy Hippy Shake count:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ke8mzgex4U
This is the Swinging Blue Jeans version but the "modern" version by The Dreamboats is pretty good.
The instructions are very, very basic.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2022, 05:08:20 PM »


Great idea and question but soooooo frustrating.  I came up with some titles right away only to realise there weren't instructions in the lyrics.  e.g. Bobby Rydell - The Cha-Cha-Cha:  The Undertakers - Mashed Potato: Tennesee Waltz.
But how about The Royal Guardsman - The Hucklebuck?  An Irish showband who had a big hit with this:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLILwWNeSjg
Double Dutch - Malcolm McLaren:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STCTCgQ3XJU
There is an extended 8 minute version also on you tube.
Do the Dip?  Where does that come from?

Amending this to add...................... how could I forget Shake?  This is the Otis version:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohkFgdCE2yQ

I've always loved Joey Dee and The Starlighters, What Kind of Love is This, and as it popped into my head I realised one of their other hits was Peppermint Twist.  I'm sure the instructions were in the lyrics.


"The Dip" came from Los Angeles in 1965.  It was sung by The Whispers.  It was actually one of the very best sounding dance instruction or invitation-to try-it songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51dZC8DPoMY

Another dance song that came from L.A. was  "The Wobble" by Sam Cooke's brother, L.C. Cooke in 1964: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXLjLmH9GC4
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2022, 05:28:19 PM »

Chicago, just like New York, Philadelphia, and Los Angeles, spawned a whole boatload of dance crazes, including "The Uncle Willy" in 1965, which was covered by The UK group, Brian Poole & The Tremeloes, who copied Bobby Miller's version.  My favourite version was by Little Natalie & Henry and The Gifts from 1965:
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syntNlK6mvE

Another is "The Monkey Time" from 1963, by Major Lance (whose daughter is currently the mayor of Atlanta, Georgia):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0KlRpQeyvo

Lance, also backed by The Impressions, as above, gave us "The Matador" in 1964:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBc4AHxnHOc
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2022, 06:01:54 PM »

"The Jerk" started in Los Angeles in 1965.  The big hit was "The Jerk" by The Larks, but that song didn't have much in the way of instructions.  Motowns Miracles, also in 1965, had the hit that gave instructions on exactly how to do it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXLjLmH9GC4
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2022, 11:52:05 PM »


Coast To Coast - (Do) The Hucklebuck (1981)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv4Tc0N1KKk


As to "The Hucklebuck", as far as I remember, it was first put to music by Dizzy Gillespe in a song by Charlie Parker's band in 1945.  But, my first encounter with it was "Hucklebuck With Jimmy" by The Five Keys in 1951. tied for my favourite singing group with The 1952-1960 Flamingos (with Sollie McElroy and Nate Nelson on lead).  I bought The Five Keys version on a 78 in 1953.  Here it is.  Unfortunately, it doesnt instruct one how to do that dance: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMpfVvTU-EY

And neither does the Chubby Checker song that I bought when it was released near the beginning of the 1960s.  Interesting that several of Chubby Checkers hit new dance songs for Cameo-Parkway, had, on their second pressings, after selling well for the first few months, an extra thick, slick-covered record sleeve, showing the dance steps as footprints through the course of the steps.  ALL of the dance hits of all of the other Cameo-Parkway singers and groups had them, as well, including "The Bristol Stomp" by The Dovells, "The Wah-Watusi" by The Orlons, and some by Dee Dee Sharp.  I also remember dance step 45 RPM record sleeve covers for Chicagos Five-Du-Tones, and Motowns Contours, who were that labels official dance song singers.


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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2022, 01:26:54 AM »

The Olympics - Hully Gully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSNoXEpF8y4

cheers!
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crashryan

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2022, 01:28:12 AM »

Reading everyone's suggestions sent me Googling for more dances. This is something I should not have done. Bang! Half a day lost forever.

Never having cared for hip-hop and only once in my life having gone to a club (it was not a pleasant experience), I was ignorant of how many hip-hop songs are how-to songs. One site offered 16 examples. This is from "Watch Me" by Silento (2015):

Now watch me whip (Kill it!)
Now watch me nae nae (Okay!)
Now watch me whip, whip
Watch me nae nae (Watch me do it)
Now watch me whip (Kill it!)
Now watch me nae nae (Okay!)
Now watch me whip, whip
Watch me nae nae (Can you do it?) [...]
Do the stanky leg (Stank) do the stanky leg (Stank-stank)
Do the stanky leg (Stank) do the stanky leg (Stank-stank)
Now break your legs (Break 'em) break your legs (Brake the knob)
Tell 'em "break your legs" (Break 'em) break your legs (Brake the knob)


Though the lyrics sound like nonsense they're actually calls to do dance moves--whip, nae nae, etc.--that the dancers presumably are familiar with. In this they are similar to the square dance do-si-do's and promenade's we were taught in middle school. This is fascinating.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2022, 02:56:39 AM »


The Olympics - Hully Gully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSNoXEpF8y4
cheers! 


Yet another new dance song that had no instructions at all.  Actually, I probably have over 100 such songs (mostly R&B and Soul) from chelate 1940s through about 1966 or so, and most of them invite the listener (nay, cajole the listener,) to join the ever-growing throng in trying out the new dance, but very few actually provide more than perhaps one or two stanzas on how to make the movements.  Unfortunately, most of my records are scattered in 4 different countries, so, I don't have many of those feetstep pattern instruction record sleeve covers.  I do remember one for The Cha-Cha, but forget the artist.  I know I have a great photo of The Temptations doing "The Temptation Walk" with the step pattern shown, diagrammed below.  I will try to find that on The Internet.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2022, 03:11:40 AM »

Here is "The Temptation Walk by The Entertainers IV from 1965:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLfw8kGdTaY

I will try to find the photo of The Temptations with the dance steps diagrammed below, and post it here.  I still cannot find the shoe print diagram with The Temptations photo, showing them doing it, but here is a demonstration of that dances steps to a Temptations song, as shown on a 1965 US nationally televised teen dance show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCRuA9CFDhE
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2022, 04:46:12 AM »

Timewarp is a classic.

The first song that comes to my mind is the bartman (although ironically, bart himself doesn't do his own dance in the video, the lyrics do tell how to do it & some of the background characters do it properly).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ycjcQHoaw

A debatable one is "grab them cakes" from the original wrestling album. It gives dance instructions, but they're extremely vague.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcKATAMJ4Fs
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2022, 12:19:04 PM »

I can't help myself. No, not all strictly fulfil the criteria, tho.

The Larks "The Jerk"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZLpZtcMAoU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9nOCOjukQ
Capitols - Cool Jerk (Original)

Major Lance - Monkey Time (1963) HQ Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0KlRpQeyvo

The Orlons - Wah Watusi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7W1vmHs_zo

Chubby Checker: The Fly (1961) [High Quality Stereo Sound, Subtitled]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM3gKfCk6Dg&list=RDQMdRcwl2xIw08&start_radio=1

Best 60s Dancer Boy Ever - The Nitty Gritty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S3Yt-NxY0E&list=RDQMdRcwl2xIw08&index=7

American Bandstand 1957 & 1968 - The Stroll, The Diamonds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGMm0Dgsbs

The LocoMotion Little Eva FULL SONG ReEdit JAR-ReMix STEREO HiQ Hybrid JARichardsFilm 720p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY-63KHQSdc

Dee Dee Sharp Mashed Potatoes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azTqxyBK32Y
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