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Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman

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Morgus

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2023, 04:17:11 PM »

My man, THANK YOU for mentioning Bat Woman (1968). This is one of my favourite Mexican wrestling/horror/crime movies. Laugh a minute and totally berserk. Rene Cardona directs, the man who gave you great Santo movies. Maura Monti strolls around in a leather bikini, mask and cape. Cool cars. It’s even in colour.
HOW it got away from the attention of DC’s lawyers I have never understood, but am thankful for. A minor copyright miracle, right up there with the Filipino Batman and Robin steal. You even get Creature from the Black Lagoon painted red and complete with oxygen tanks on the back.
These days you can get it in a DVD double edition with PANTHER WOMAN...where all the bad girls have hair do’s like Elvis’ girlfriends in his movies. 
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The Australian Panther

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2023, 01:02:58 AM »

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HOW it got away from the attention of DC’s lawyers I have never understood, but am thankful for.

Seems that it did. On IMDB the writers credits are;-
'Alfredo Salazar Bob Kane Bill Finger'
So apparently they just took the money and ran!
Alfredo Salazar's writing credits are worth looking at.
Alfredo Salazar
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0757667/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
Seems he was responsible for the 'Santo and Blue Demon' movies.
Hmm! Is that the inspiration for DC's character Blue Devil?
Cheers!
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K1ngcat

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #52 on: April 17, 2023, 01:27:38 AM »



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I agree with QQ, the fat shaming is annoying and unimaginative to say the least, was there a "Thin Earl" in the company that "Fat Earl" had to be distinguished from? He was a good fighter, so nobody cared if he was fat? So if he hadn't been a good fighter, everyone would have been disgusted by his chubbiness?   

Fat-shaming is so now. Back then, that was just a nickname. Most were much worse than that. And not necessarily literal. For instance in Australia, any Redhead was automatically nicknamed Blue. Normal bonding behavior for groups of men, I assure you.You wouldn't want to know some of my school nicknames.   
And there was nothing there to indicate that they found him 'disgusting'
   


Perhaps disgusting is too strong a word, but just because "fat shaming" is "now" doesn't mean it's okay, any more than the awful racial stereotypes in most of CB+s collection is to be ignored just because it's so "then." What's considered normal bonding behaviour for groups of men is currently proving to be the downfall of London's Metropolitan Police Force, and the country's Armed Services, most of whom are being found to be institutionally racist, mysoginistic and homophobic while most of the men involved dismiss their attitudes as harmless banter.

No offence meant,  and don't get me wrong, I'm not a snowflake or a woke leftist radical. I just know kids are mean to one another and they grow up to be people who are mean to one another, and it's all accepted as normal and if you don't take all the insults and slights without complaint then you're just not playing the game. I'd like to think the human race can do better.

Don't worry, I'm used to being disappointed! :D

All the best
K1ngcat
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SuperScrounge

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2023, 06:32:32 AM »


Seems that it did. On IMDB the writers credits are;-
'Alfredo Salazar Bob Kane Bill Finger'

First of Kane and Finger are listed as uncredited, so their names aren't on the movie.

Second IMDB is not the most reliable source. A few years ago they gave the Alfred in the movie serials the last name Pennyworth, despite that name not being invented until the 1960s. Currently they use the last name Beagle which wasn't created until the 1950's and, I believe was used twice, once in the comic books, & once in the comic strip.

I think some fan just added the Kane & Finger attribution since they are both considered to be Batman's creators, although that wasn't the case until just a few years ago. So if DC had complained only Kane would have gotten a credit, which, as pointed out, wasn't on the movie.

Most likely this Mexican movie just floated under DC's radar. Also DC hadn't used Batwoman for around 6 years, so they may not have considered it important enough to make a fuss about.


Hmm! Is that the inspiration for DC's character Blue Devil?

Probably not. More likely they named it after the college mascot for Duke University.

Heck Marvel had good luck using the mascot for the University of Michigan. ;-)
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Robb_K

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2023, 06:47:53 AM »


Kingcat said,
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I agree with QQ, the fat shaming is annoying and unimaginative to say the least, was there a "Thin Earl" in the company that "Fat Earl" had to be distinguished from? He was a good fighter, so nobody cared if he was fat? So if he hadn't been a good fighter, everyone would have been disgusted by his chubbiness?   

Fat-shaming is so now. Back then, that was just a nickname. Most were much worse than that. And not necessarily literal. For instance in Australia, any Redhead was automatically nicknamed Blue. Normal bonding behavior for groups of men, I assure you.You wouldn't want to know some of my school nicknames.   
And there was nothing there to indicate that they found him 'disgusting'
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In Canada, during the 1940s and 1950s "Red" was, by far, the most common nickname for redheads, but was neutral, and merely descriptive, rather than derogatory.  So, I didn't mind being nicknamed "Red".  But, I DID mind being called "freckle-Face", which WAS derogatory when dubbing a boy, but a tearm of endearment when addressing a girl.
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The Australian Panther

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Re: Reading Group # 294 Sam Glanzman
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2023, 08:39:42 AM »

SuperScrounge, you are probably right.
No new selection today. we are running late, so there will be one by late tomorrow. I am on it.

Cheers!
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