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Watcha Watchin'?

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narfstar

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« Reply #1250 on: July 26, 2012, 09:00:20 PM »

Sanford and Son, Weather Channel and Our Gang I agree on. You have no idea how much I despise those ghostie hunter shows. Now I do like the ghostie shows that point out that it seems the only people who see the ghosts are people who already believe in ghosts. I am one of the few here who really did not care for Avatar or Matrix. But I just watched an old early 1960's cheezy movie so what do I know. It is old childhood favorite that the all knowing critics give one star. It is Year 2889 or some future year where atom bombs were dropped. This man has a little safe place for he and his daughter but of course others show up. I have a newer cheezy sci-fi movie called Robot Holocaust on DVR to watch later.
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« Reply #1251 on: July 26, 2012, 09:02:24 PM »

Robot Holocaust? ::lol:: That made me laugh out loud! Sounds like a perfect venue for Magnus, Robot Fighter!  ;D
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« Reply #1252 on: July 26, 2012, 09:10:14 PM »

It looks really low grade. It will either be a great fun watch or a waste of time. Usually no inbetween on these.
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« Reply #1253 on: July 27, 2012, 02:11:49 AM »

The last couple days...

THE MALTESE FALCON
THE BIG SLEEP


...again!

Tomorrow night:  Robert Mitchum!!!  :)
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« Reply #1254 on: July 27, 2012, 05:14:45 AM »

My latest Lockout, a sci-fi flick.

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« Reply #1255 on: July 27, 2012, 12:48:55 PM »

I am watching the 1983 Strange Invaders. Early 80's movie still with the 70's feel. I am not a fan of the seventies style movie feel. I am trying to ignore that and enjoy the sci-fi and seems like an OK movie.
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« Reply #1256 on: July 27, 2012, 02:54:44 PM »

We've seen so little of the lists mentioned.  And we're bogged down by Olympics warm up stuff - can't get away from it.  So I dug out the Quatermass and the Pit tv serial and interspersed episodes with a bit of Devil Girl from Mars.  Great stuff.  At least ther has been test cricket on radio with S.Africa here for 3 against England.  I mentioned to Mark that England got a right humping but, oddly enough, no response. ;)
(Is this the first time I've used a smiley)?
Opening ceremony tonight.  Wonder if the fireworks will set off the local missile batteries - see 2012.
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« Reply #1257 on: July 27, 2012, 05:02:56 PM »

I just do not get into sports. Olympics holds very little interest to me. Cricket looks so unbelievably boring to me. I guess if you understand the game you like it. I think few people outside of the UK have any interest in cricket.
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« Reply #1258 on: July 27, 2012, 06:11:47 PM »

Cricket?  Apart from India, Australia, N. Zealand, S. Africa, Bangladesh, Pakistan, West Indies, Sri Lanka,and Scotland, Canada, Netherlands have international teams
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« Reply #1259 on: July 27, 2012, 06:36:14 PM »

Cricket is absolutely huge in Asia, massive megabucks! Nowadays I would guess that actually England (not UK as it is mainly played in England) of the major test countries is probably the least supported??

Anyway I think it is a shame that the commercialism has got so great in it and also most of our team seem to be South Africans. I don't care whether you are white, black, yellow, green or purple, but I would like it that the majority of a national team doesn't have a foreign accent.

Paw will understand when I say I hanker back to the days of Arlott, Johnson et al and discussions of the cakes at tea time. Plus of course Dickie Bird. All that has gone now :(
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« Reply #1260 on: July 28, 2012, 12:10:22 AM »

Americans are just a faster paced people. I remember watching British mysteries and thinking how slow paced. Many movies also were slower paced than US. Not a knock just a matter of taste. My wife and I watched a British "slasher" move and liking it after giving it time to engage us. It had very different pacing than we were accustomed to. The lack of scoring in soccer has made it less popular in the US than in most other countries. High school soccer is one of the few sports I just can bring myself to watch my students play. I find pro soccer boring so you can imagine my opinion of high school soccer.
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« Reply #1261 on: July 28, 2012, 01:07:11 AM »


Cricket is absolutely huge in Asia, massive megabucks! Nowadays I would guess that actually England (not UK as it is mainly played in England) of the major test countries is probably the least supported??

Anyway I think it is a shame that the commercialism has got so great in it and also most of our team seem to be South Africans. I don't care whether you are white, black, yellow, green or purple, but I would like it that the majority of a national team doesn't have a foreign accent.

Paw will understand when I say I hanker back to the days of Arlott, Johnson et al and discussions of the cakes at tea time. Plus of course Dickie Bird. All that has gone now :(


Money is certainly what sports is about in this age. I doubt that very few Olympians are in their sport purely for the love of sports. And I agree with you on national teams...after all, it is supposed to be a national team in the nationality sense, so I would expect a national team from India to not have Texan accents. As an aside, I still ponder the fate of the North Korea Soccer team after their losses in the last World Cup ... I still find it interesting that one of their members was born and raised in Japan, but within a some sort of pro-North Korean ethnic set up.

Wake me up when football (the real kind, not that European stuff) starts.

B.

PS:  I'm just joking about the "not that European stuff"  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #1262 on: July 28, 2012, 02:06:23 PM »

My three current weekly cliff-hangers.

Young Eagles-1934-  A couple of Boy Scouts must survive when the small plane they are traveling in crashes in a South American jungle.

Junior G-Men-1940-  The Dead End Kids go after the bad guys in their first serial.

The Painted Stallion-1937-  Excellent cast, headed by Hoot Gibson (in his only chapter-play) and Ray "Crash" Corrigan, along with some beautiful location shooting, are all pluses in this western serial.

Best

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« Reply #1263 on: July 28, 2012, 03:58:11 PM »

Mark, couldn't agree more re. national teams and Arlott and co. But I enjoy the weirdness that Blowers comes out with and Agnew is a very good commentator.
Soccer - football to most outside N.America - leaves me cold even though, as a lad, I supported my local 1st. Div. team. Nowadays with the sectarian horribleness of the 2 big Scottish teams and the fact that soccer can be really boring I just don't want to know.
American football, on the other hand is great entertainment and, confession time, I've followed the Bengals for a long, long time.  Don't bother telling me how sad I am.  (They were good at one time).  Linda and I watch a couple of games a week during the season and I also take in some college games. As an appetite whetter for the coming season,  a cable channel here is showing some CFL. It's just enough to take the edge off.
I also enjoy Rugby League but see very little as we don't have Sky sports  and RL  is much more exciting than Union, imo.
Also Aussie rules football is about as fast as team sports can be.
That opening ceremony was pretty good in parts.  Britain is and has been an amazing country and some of that was reflected in last night's show. So, Mr. Romney has had a go at us - aw, the wee soul.  Away and count your money! What? Politics raising its ugly head.  Not here anyway, I hope.
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« Reply #1264 on: July 28, 2012, 06:22:22 PM »


Americans are just a faster paced people. I remember watching British mysteries and thinking how slow paced. Many movies also were slower paced than US.


Not sure if there's a connection, but last night, I think for the first time, I managed to watch THE BIG SLEEP (1978) the very next night after THE BIG SLEEP (1946).  The Bogart film is overflowing with "witty" dialogue, and the plot is almost impossible to follow. Some of this is because the Productin Code did not allow much of the book to make it into the movie.  This included nudity, marital infidelity, drugs, murder, mental illness, and a pornography racket.  On top of that, after an initial cut seen only bny the Armed Forces, the film was seriously reedited with a lot of new footage and some scenes cut, and the new footage (most focusing on Bogart & Bacall) is so "distracting" it makes it almost impossble to actually follow the "plot".

But I first saw THE BIG SLEEP in a theatre in 1978. It's a VERY complex story. and yet... I had NO TROUBLE following the plot, at all!  Oh, sure, for most of it, I didn't really know what was going on. Almost every time someone got KILLED, it seemed to come out of nowhere, and let you wondering, "What the HELL is going on???" And it's not until the ENDING that it ALL really comes together. Whoa. Does it.

What I really noticed last night (having watched both versions back-to-back), is how LITTLE dialogue the remake actually has.  It's amazing. I mean, they leave plenty of room for characterization (and between the script and the cast, EVERY character stands out from every other character-- you can't get confused, nobody looks or acts like anybody else, it's one of the best casts I've EVER seen in ANY movie). But the dialogue doesn't get in the way of the plot.  The dialogue is about 90% pure PLOT. You have to pay attention... but if you do, it's amazingly CLEAR storytelling, for such a confusing story. Which, for this kind of story, I think, is exactly the way to do it.

As a result, even though the film is CRAMMED with detail, detail, detail, when you weatch it, it seems to be slowwwwwwwww and leisurely.  You actually have time for each detail to sink it. The only exceptions, really, are the scene with "Harry Jones" (Colin Blakely) in Marlowe's office, where he spils out a HUGE amount of plot detail in a very few minutes (fortunately, much of it is accompanied with visual flashbacks-- in the style of an Agatha Christie movie!), and, the finale, with "Charlotte Sternwood" (Sarah Miles), where we find out EXACTLY what happened to her "missing" husband, and EXACTLY how "Eddie Mars" (Oliver Reed) is tied up with just about EVERYTHING that happened in the entire film.

Eddie gets blown away by his own men by accident in the Bogart film, because somebody had to get it, in the Production Code's eyes. But it seems to me they left out HALF of what he was actually guity of in that versino, while here, AFTER he gets off scot free, we find out he's guilty of far more than we ever imagined.  I kinda wonder now (after seeing this version at least 6 times), did Eddie go free in the long run?  Does he actually extort money from Charlotte, after her father dies? Or did his scheme fall apart-- was he pulled in by the cops-- or did somebody else punch his ticket as a result of his just being a no-good bastard in general?

This remains my favorite Robert Mitchum film.
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« Reply #1265 on: July 28, 2012, 07:28:03 PM »

I'd have to disagree as The Bogart version is just so watchable.  I'd read the book before seeing the film so perhaps that's why I like the movie so much and the fact it's so classy.  Other noirs we enjoy are The Blue Dahlia; the Glass Key; This Gun For Hire and, if I could remember the title, Dick Powell as Marlowe.
As for British films being slow, the number of times my wife and I look at each other when watching an American film/tv show and say how long it is to get into it, is surprisingly often.  Classic British policiers seem to get right to the point - no extraneous filling.  I can recommend some examples on you tube if anyone is interested.
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« Reply #1266 on: July 28, 2012, 08:26:22 PM »

My favorite Robert Mitchum role was in Cape Fear ... a real goosebumps film. One of my favorite actors, plays a great baddie and but I also like his lighter stuff as well.
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« Reply #1267 on: July 28, 2012, 08:44:08 PM »

Agree on Mitchum and Cape Fear. The remake of Cape Fear was actually pretty good.
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« Reply #1268 on: July 28, 2012, 08:59:55 PM »

As it happens, the Bogart version of THE BIG SLEEP has become a real fave of mine over the last 10 years.  I'm sure I've seen it more times than the Mitchum version. Most fans of the film (myself included) would probably say it's fun to watch for the characters and the dialogue.  But the plot?

The crazy thing is, I saw the Mitchum film in a theatre. I had no trouble following it.  Then I got the novel and read it.  I had no trouble following it.  Later, I saw the Bogart film.  I coldn't make heads or tails of it. And this was already knowing the story! I think that says a lot. 

Eventually (maybe after 4 or 5 times) I was finally able to follow the plot... but to a large degree, it's better if you just enjoy the characters, because they get in the way of the plot, anyhow. (heh)

I can't help but feel part of it was an attempt to do a sort of "MALTESE FALCON 2". The two films do make a terrific double-feature (I do have a tendency to watch them back-to-back, or within a few days of each other).
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« Reply #1269 on: July 29, 2012, 12:58:39 AM »

Excellent list of noirs , Paw. I believe the title of  that Dick Powell film is "Murder, my Sweet", and it is one of his best. Love the special effects!  "The Blue Dahlia" is not only a great film, but also features Hugh Beaumont, America's Dad!  We grew up with this guy as "Ward Cleaver" (an iconic father) on the very long-running "Leave it to Beaver" series. Let me recommend a couple more  of my favorite noirs- Dick Powell in "Cornered" and Lorre/ Greenstreet in "The Mask of Dimitrious". Cheers, Bowers
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« Reply #1270 on: July 30, 2012, 09:30:09 AM »

Bowers, thanks for the suggestions.  I'll try to find them.  You're right about, Murder My Sweet.
We also are fans of Double Indemnity.  Leave it to Beaver is a bit of a mystery to me - never seen it. But I will now look it up.
Don't know if it counts as noir, as it's in colour but we are planning a viewing of Bad Day at Black Rock, a particular favourite of mine.  Ryan is a seriously good bad guy, Marvin hams it up to great effect and Tracy is simply excellent.  There is an atmosphere of impending danger all the time.
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« Reply #1271 on: July 30, 2012, 12:25:35 PM »

YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN LEAVE IT TO BEAVER??????? I still love this TV show. It is one of my ALL TIME FAVORITES. My wife's also. It is hard to explain why some shows hold up so much better than others. Yes this is 1950's morality plays but so darn good. It is similar to "Father Knows Best" or "Donna Reed" or "My Three Sons." But it is the better of the shows.
Be sure to start with the early episodes when Beaver was the youngest and work your way up.

BTW: My wife and I just watched the movie IN TIME. It has some big gafs but overall a very intriguing and interesting movie.
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« Reply #1272 on: July 30, 2012, 01:29:41 PM »

And you've got me again with the other 3 you mention.  Remember, we had 1 or 2 chanels back in the '60's (if that's the correct period) and American progs. were more like, Lassie, Champion, Boots & saddles, Highway Patrol etc.
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« Reply #1273 on: July 30, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »

I believe many of these are available on Hulu. It makes sense that the adventure shows would be exported more than the domestic shows. They would be more relatable. Not that most Americans could actually relate to the lives pictured in those shows. My home was nothing like their homes.
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« Reply #1274 on: July 30, 2012, 03:27:25 PM »

Crazy but true: My favorite film version of "Farewell My Lovely" is the one with George Sanders: THE FALCON TAKES OVER. It's just "fun".

But I was also reminded the other day, I actually have 4 adaptations of it on videotape. The 4th is entitled "HARLEM NOCTURNE", and is an episode of the 3rd season of MIKE HAMMER with Stacy Keach.  No kidding. (Although, I suspect there's also a bit of "I, THE JURY" in that episode as well. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was probably the sexiest episode they ever did on that show.)
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