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Watcha Watchin'?

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« Reply #3125 on: January 27, 2022, 02:45:27 AM »

Speaking of Hitchcock, Season One episode eleven is possibly my favorite, "Ride the Nightmare".
So much so in recent years it became my favorite saying next to "Embrace the Chaos".

If you haven't seen this fine film noir you can find it on Dailymotion.
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« Reply #3126 on: January 27, 2022, 04:43:05 AM »

My dad taped a whole PILE of AHP episodes off PBS.  Completely out of sequence, I suspect.  I watched them some years back.  Some were interesting, but it was mostly a curiosity thing for me.  I also on my own did 1 or 2 tapes of the 80s revival, some of which were intensely disturbing.

I just found out from Max Collins that there was a period where Mickey Spillane was hoping to get a "crime anthology" TV series made.  His collaborator was Gene Roddenbery.  Reading this, all I could think of was... OH MAN, why did Gene have so much trouble getting tv projects off the ground?  What could have been...
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« Reply #3127 on: January 28, 2022, 05:01:46 AM »

Should have posted this in Watcha readin'. My  apologies. 
Re Micky Spillane,
Yesterday I picked up a copy of 'The By-pass control' by Spillane, the forth in his Spy series with the character.
A reviewer says it is the worst of the four and while I'm enjoying it, that assessment doesn't surprise me.
Research led me to this, all of which was already in my head, and I can't say it any better.
Dangerous American Cousin: Mickey Spillane and Ian Fleming
https://literary007.com/2015/02/25/dangerous-american-cousin-mickey-spillane-and-ian-fleming/
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It should be no surprise that a direct line can be drawn from Mike Hammer to Dirty Harry to Frank Millers The Dark Knight Returns. But what might surprise many is the connection between Spillane and Ian Fleming. Partially because of the books, but even more so because of the films, James Bond is often regarded as the classy British alternative to the hulking American stereotype. While the typical American P.I. in fiction is a working stiff who rarely has any luck with women (or even wants anything to do with them in the first place), Bond is the cosmopolitan charmer who can just as easily woo a woman as he can deactivate a nuclear bomb. To top it off, he does all of these things while sporting a cultured accent that sounds worlds away from the harsh consonants of either Brooklyn or Boston.


The only problem with this image of Bond is that it misses one incredibly important point: Bond's a killer. Especially during the early novels, Bond is described as a wonderful machine who thinks of nothing but the job on hand. In Casino Royale, the suave male ideal that would later be promoted in the pages of Playboy magazine is cold, harsh, and frequently thought of as a blunt instrument of London. In sum, Flemings original Bond is a kindred spirit of Mike Hammer, and this fact has been noted by no less of an authority than Italian academic and novelist Umberto Eco.
While Fleming acknowledged that Spillane was an influence behind the creation of James Bond, Fleming and Bond proved to be a direct influence on Spillane. Between 1964 and 1966, Spillane took a break from Mike Hammer in order to create Tiger Mann (yes, that's his real name), a tough secret agent for a private organization which is dedicated to eradicating Communism once and for all. Since he was created during the height of the worlds mania over spies and spy fiction, Tiger Mann has to be seen as a direct disciple of Bond, his far more famous progenitor.

Mann, like Hammer, is a World War II veteran who refuses to forget what he learned on the battlefield. Unlike Hammer, who was an enlisted Marine in the Pacific Theater, Mann got an early taste of intelligence work while operating for the OSS late in the war. After coming home, Mann was recruited by a shadowy private organization dedicated to stopping Communism, and in every one of Spillanes four Tiger Mann novels, this small, unnamed organization picks up the weight left untouched by those governments who are unwilling to confront the agents of Moscow head-on.

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« Reply #3128 on: January 28, 2022, 05:55:12 PM »

Or, you coulda posted it in my new MIKE HAMMER thread.

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This is fascinating.  I think this may be the first time I was aware of Spillane writing a "spy" series.  I'd only recently updated my index of the Mike Hammer novels and spin-off, and noticed there was a huge gap of both in the late 60s and all thru the 70s, a period I would have thought "sex and violence" would have made Hammer WAY more popular than he'd been in the 50s (especially the 70s, when moviesa got so dark, violent , nasty & DOWNBEAT).



Once again, I feel almost embarrassed to say it, but while I'm a fan of Spillane & Max Collins, I've yet to read a single word of any of their novels.

But I have read every one of Ian Fleming's JAMES BOND stories... and it's for this reason, no doubt, that EVEN some of the Sean Connery films don't make the grade in my eyes.
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« Reply #3129 on: January 28, 2022, 07:51:29 PM »

It occurs to me that if Herman Brix hadn't broken his shoulder and been replaced by Johnny Weismuller at the last minute, Sol Lesser might never have inflicted no less than 5 different illiterate Tarzans on the world (including the 2nd half of Weismuller's run, when MGM gave it up).

"Mine"
"Zar"
"Go"
"Don't"
"Night comes"
"No"
"Mary"
"Tantor"
"Geeloo"

9 words, the entire vocabulary spoken by Buster Crabbe in "TARZAN THE FEARLESS" (1933).

:D

Here's the Wikipedia article which explains the utterly-crazy circumstances that led to the production of this film, Sol Lesser's 1st of many Tarzans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarzan_the_Fearless

Despite Crabbe's Tarzan having an even-more limited vocabulary than Johnny Weismuller's (on Lesser's insistence-- something he maintained until he retired in the late 50s), in some ways the film has more of the spirit of Edgar Rice Burroughs than MGM's series.  It's acknowledged that Tarzan is the heir of a huge estate in England, and fortune-hunter Jeff Herbert actually goes in search of Tarzan due to having a letter promising him ten thousand dollars for proof of Tarzan's death, to clear the path for someone else to inherit the title!  The story features one of Burrough's patented "lost tribes" living in the African jungle, in this case, a group of refugees from Ancient Egypt.  And, at the end, Mary Brooks, whose scientist father has befriended Tarzan, makes it her mission to educate him!  The finale, where his Chimpanzee friend has found and turned on the old-fashioned record player, and we see chimps, a gorilla and an elephant all dancing to the music, is hilarious.

I've long come to feel that Buster Crabbe was one of the most charismatic, likable actors to ever work in Hollywood. And watching this again, all I could think of was... OH, IF ONLY he had a "proper" script to work with. I probably would have ranked him up there with my favorite, Ron Ely!

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« Reply #3130 on: January 28, 2022, 08:28:03 PM »

Here's a wild bit of trivia.  "Jiggs", the chimpanzee, actually appeared in all 3 unrelated TARZAN film series of the 1930s!  (MGM, Sol Lesser, and Edgar Rice Burroughs)

TARZAN THE APE MAN
TARZAN THE FEARLESS
TARZAN AND HIS MATE
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF TARZAN


He passed away in 1938.

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« Reply #3131 on: January 29, 2022, 09:38:13 AM »

Sadly almost finished watching the complete series of UFO (1970-1971)

It might be my new favourite sci-fi series. Sadly it seems to be relatively unknown outside of the UK, although it did have some obscure Italian and Japanese releases at the time. UFO was the first live action TV show produced by Gerry Anderson, the creator of Thunderbirds.

Ed Bishop stars in the title role as Commander Straker, the leader of SHADO. Since the series is set in 1980, Ed had to wear a blonde wig in this, as Gerry Anderson believed this would fashionable in the future. Ed was a brilliant actor who also provided his voice for another Gerry Anderson series Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons as Captain Blue. Ed also landed some small uncredited roles in the Connery Bond films You Only Live Twice (as the radar operator in the opening scene) and Diamonds are Forever (as the real Klaus Hergersheimer at W.W. Tectonics).

SHADO is an international organisation tasked with defending Earth from aliens of unknown origin. This involves tracking space for any sign of their UFOs (pronounced U-FOs by Mr Bishop) using a Space Intruder Detector, a sort of flying satellite with its own voice that relays back to SHADO. When aliens are detected, which is usually the plot of each episode, Straker gets to choose between 3 lines of defence- the 1st is Moonbase, a base on the moon filled with ladies wearing purple wigs, who send out Interceptors to fire missiles. If this fails, the 2nd line of defence are the Sky Diver submarines. These fire out Sky One interceptors into the Earths atmosphere, and can also fire missiles. If this fails (which it often does, as both of these interceptors can only carry one missile), the final defence are the MOBILE tanks, which scour the landing spot of the UFO looking for survivors.

Beneath this somewhat overdone story of defending the Earth are some really complex stories and themes, ranging from Straker having to choose between saving his sons life after a car crash & staying at work to finish the job, to having to brainwash any people who accidentally encounter the aliens on the planet surface.

Continuing with the Bond theme, Michael Billington who played Colonel Foster in the series was screen-tested for the role of James Bond more than any other actor. However he ultimately lost out to both George Lazenby and Roger Moore. Strakers second-in-command, Colonel Freeman, is played by George Sewell. A well known TV character actor of the 60s and 70s in the UK, George gave an excellent performance in this, although sadly he had to give up the role in the last half of the series owing to a change of film studio.

Overall this has been an epic series and I would highly recommend it! Network recently released it on blu-ray, and its an excellent release.

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« Reply #3132 on: January 29, 2022, 02:54:15 PM »


If this fails (which it often does, as both of these interceptors can only carry one missile),


Not sure but I suspect the reasoning was these were the most powerful non nuclear explosive warheads they could field, thus too large and heavy to allow carrying more than one per craft.
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« Reply #3133 on: January 29, 2022, 03:31:49 PM »

Thanks, this might explain it. If only they were more accurate... most of the time they fire the missile just a moment too soon, allowing the UFO to fly though unscathed.
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« Reply #3134 on: January 29, 2022, 04:38:39 PM »

I had just posted some comments about UFO on a friend's page, so I figured I'd take the easy route and copy-and-paste them here as well...



I got the DVD box set the other year Not only were the episodes I saw on the Sci-Fi Channel in the 90s EACH missing 6 minutes apiece, they ran the show in totally random order.

Someone at the IMDB actually complained that the DVD box changed the order of the episodes. My reaction to that was, "HOLY S***!!!!!" The DVDs are in (MOSTLY) production order, and watching them that way, I realized how the entire run suddenly made like TEN TIMES more sense, and "built" in intensity from start to finish.

I don't think I've ever seen any tv series so completely sabotaged by TV stations (in England and America) screwing up the running order for a whole variety of stupid reasons over the course of its run.

I always considered it one of Gerry Anderson's 2nd-rate shows, but now, I'm on my 3rd go-round with the DVDs, and think it was absolutely CRIMINAL that they never did a 2nd season to bring some kind of resolution to the long-term storyline.

I know things have changed in TV over the decades, but a huge problem was always stations stupid insistence that one should be able to watch episodes in "any" order. If you watch this the way it was broadcast back in the 70s and beyond, it just seems to go nowhere.

If you watch in (mostly) production order, it actually breaks down neatly into 2 acts. The first, you have this secret government-funded organization desperately just tying to get its S*** together. The 2nd act AMPS up the mystery and the danger and keeps showing the aliens with more and more bizarre abilities, from forms of ESP to altering the passage of TIME. Geez!

A whole series of monstrously-stupid behind-the-scenes things went on that saw the show not return, then almost return, then almost return in greatly-altered form, then get TOTALLY-mutated into something entirely different and utterly senseless ("Space 1999").
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« Reply #3135 on: January 29, 2022, 04:57:04 PM »

Of the 2 instances where the DVD box set is not in order, you only have to worry about one of them.



The first was "Survival" was actually filmed before "Exposed".  It's clear to me that "Survival" was initially intended to just feature another random SHADO member, Paul Foster, getting trapped on the Moon's surface and believed dead, but then found alive, and how it screwed up his relationship with his then-current girlfriend.  But then someone realized he would make a great regular, and so the next episode they filmed was "Exposed", which "introduced" Paul.

In the UK (and here), "Exposed" was actually broadcast 2ND, right after "Identified", in order to get Paul in front of TV viewers earlier, since he appears in more episodes than anyone other that Ed Straker.  However, I feel the order on the DVDs is really better, since if you watch them in production order (except for swapping the first 2 Paul episodes), there's a LOT of subtle continuity that gets totally lost if watched in any other order.


The other one, was pointed out to me on some website.  Near the end, for some inexplicable reason, "Mindbender" and "Timelash" were swapped.  I couldn't see any reason, so, I decided to watch them in BOTH orders, to see if I noticed anything "right" or "wrong" or "better" one way or the other.  And I figured it out.  Just about every damn Gerry Anderson series has at least one "it was all a dream" episode, AND, a "clip show" (with flashbacks to previous episodes).  In the case of UFO, "Ordeal" (episode 9 in productin order) was the "it was all a dream" story-- which, I must say, actually PISSED me off when they had the reveal at the end.  My friend in Wales, however, pointed out that a lot of "personal" stuff in the story would have required some major repercussions with the characters and their actions, that the series apparently didn't wanna bother with.

About HALFWAY thru... "Mindbender" suddenly becomes BOTH a "dream" episode (which in this case is VERY obvious!), AND, briefly, a "clip show", with Straker watching a film showing events from his own life.  Normally, "clip shows" are run at the END of a season, or, in Anderson's case, the end of a SERIES.  So, my guess is, whoever put the DVD box together figured "Mindbender" should be as close to the end as possible.

HOWEVER... on my 2nd go-round with the DVDs, when I watched "Mindbender" BEFORE "Timelash", I suddenly had an epiphany.  Halfway into "Mindbender", Ed Straker winds up spending the rest of the episode running all around the film studio.  Nearly the entire episode "Timelash" has Ed and Colonel Lake running around the film studio.  It goes on and on and on, and by the end of "Timelash", you feel really EXHAUSTED.  Watched this way, the two become almost an unoffical TWO-PART story.  And "Timelash", really, feels like the 'BIG CLIMACTIC GRAND FINALE' of the whole series.

"The Long Sleep", which follows, feels more like a moody epilogue.  All the time Straker & Lake spent together in "Timelash" seems to come back in the very last scene, where, following a traumatic personal experience, he leaves the hospital... and she follows him, the two walking off together... toward a 2nd season that NEVER happened (but damn well should have).


So my suggestion, if you've got the A&E box set, is to watch all of them in the order of the discs... EXCEPT, watch "Mindbender" before "Timelash".  It just works WAY better that way.
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« Reply #3136 on: January 29, 2022, 07:35:52 PM »

Thanks for this, a really interesting read.
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« Reply #3137 on: January 30, 2022, 12:55:03 AM »

For the last several years, I've been slowing working my way thru a massive Gerry Anderson marathon.  I started out watching the earliest stuff of his I could find online for free, which included the entire runs of FOUR FEATHER FALLS (which I'd never seen before) and SUPERCAR (which I hadn't seen since the mid-60s), and a number of even earlier things.  But a few episodes into my beloved FIREBALL XL5, I realized that the entire series wasn't online for free... so, I went ahead and bought my first regular DVD player, and the DVD box set.  What a wonderful time that was, being able to see the show that first introduced me to sci-fi, which I had not seen since August 1965!

I followed it up with STINGRAY, THUNDERBIRDS, CAPTAIN SCARLET AND THE MYSTERONS, JOE 90 (which I'd only seen 4 episodes of earlier), and THE SECRET SERVICE (which I'd never seen before).  The first few shows, I was watching every day of the week, but with THUNDERBIRDS, which was an hour, I decided to drop back to one story a week, so I could really appreciate each one more fully.  I stuck on that schedule ever since (at least, for the first time around with the DVDs-- I watch them a 2nd time whenever it suits my mood).

All that time, I wasn't sure if I wanted to upgrade my UFO collection, since it was the only Anderson series I had EVERY episode of, taped off the Sci-Fi Channel.  But, MAN, was I glad I did!  As I said, the tapes were severely cut, totally out of sequence, and as it turned out, recorded on a defective machine in the 90s where the heads were so far out of line, those specific tapes refused to play properly on my current machine without almost non-stop visual technical problems.  Yeesh.  And seeing the show so completely intact, it turned out to be way, way better than it ever seemed before.

In truth, while several of the early episodes (and some of the later ones) were NEEDLESSLY, excessively downbeat and depressing... there's really on one-and-one-half episodes I REALLY don't like.  It's the 2 episodes involving Mary Straker.

"A Question Of Priorities" (episode 8 ) has 2 plots running side-by-side.  One involves an alien who goes thru absurdly-complex methods trying to contact SHADO, because he's apparently considered a traitor to whatever it is his planet's people are up to.  The other involves Straker's ex-wife, who doesn't like him seeing their son, and her son John getting hit by a speeding car.  Straker announces he can get the rare medicine needed to save him, and diverts a cargo plane to faciliitate this.  But Alec Freeman doesn't know this, and HE diverts the plane to the area where the UFO landed.  The medicine arrives JUST too late to save John, and Mary screams her head off saying "I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN!"  As if it was HIS fault.

It's SO G**-D***ed contrived!  There was absolutely NO reason for things to turn out that bad.  To have the alienb killed at the last second was a downbeat ending I could understand, but not to have that AND John also get killed.  It's just pointlessly downbeat because Gerry wanted it to be pointlessly downbeat, because-- PROBABLY!!!-- Gerry & Sylvia were having problems in their marriage and he had to shove that at viewers.

I figured out my own alternate ending to the episode.  Which would be, the medicine arrives JUST barely in time, John's life IS saved, only because Ed was able to use SHADO to deliver the medicine.  And after, he would tell Mary, "He's MY son, too.  And from NOW on, I'm going to see him AS OFTEN AS I'D LIKE."  That would have been so much better.


The last time I watched this, I fast-forwarded over all the "Mary" scenes and just watched the "alien traitor" scenes.  I once did the same thing with "The Paradise Syndrome" on STAR TREK, watching only the "Spock" scenes and skipping over all the "Kirk amnesia" scenes.   ;D


The other one that bugs me is "Confetti Check A-OK" (ep. 13, just about the halfway point).  Straker's marriage falls apart mainly because his NEVER-SEEN MOTHER-IN-LAW hires a private eye to follow him, an act that should have gotten the detective and his mother-in-law arrested on espionage charges.

Only the "framing device" part works for me, where Ed orders a SHADO HQ operative who just had a new baby to take a 2-week vacation.  He KNOWS how important this is, and it shows that Ed really does have a caring, human side.


I've seen Suzanne Neve (who played Mary) in 3 things, and what a contrast.  I absolutely hated the character of Mary, she seemed selfish and uncaring about Ed and his job, or even about her own son's feelings at the beginning of "Priorities".  I've also seen her as Mina Harker in the 1968 MYSTERY AND IMAGINATION adaptation of "Dracula", and she was terrific in that.  But even better, she played Violet Hunter in the 1965 adaptation of "The Copper Beches".  She's the girl who takes the job of governness, who Holmes is SO impressed with, he reccomends her for a position as headmistress of a school, while Watson mistakenly thinks his friend may be thinking of asking her to marry him.  She was my FAVORITE woman character in the entire 1960s BBC SHERLOCK HOLMES series.
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« Reply #3138 on: February 08, 2022, 05:10:10 AM »

Here is a reference to an Argentinian Poe movie adaption.
Master of Horror (1965) [Excerpt from Tell Tale Heart in English]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BALv9_Zm-W0

Sourced from this site.
CINEFEAR VIDEO
http://www.cinefear.com/cincoll.html

Should keep anybody interested in Horror movies happy for ages.

Cheers!   
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« Reply #3139 on: February 08, 2022, 05:53:08 PM »

Prof, as you've been watching all those puppet shows, have you tried the non-Anderson, but better imo, Space Patrol?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtHmfziFzKNGlJ7rUbs7Et-IOyuac8hkU
Meson Power On. Great stuff.
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« Reply #3140 on: February 09, 2022, 03:38:36 AM »

I've long joked that the execrable SPACE: 1999 would have worked better with puppets.

It certainly would have been more tolderable.
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« Reply #3141 on: February 09, 2022, 01:22:40 PM »


I've long joked that the execrable SPACE: 1999 would have worked better with puppets.

It certainly would have been more tolderable.


I've been rewatching my bootleg 1999 disc full series collection . Just finished episode six.
Personally I like that series, though the science is rubbish and overacting is endemic.
Costuming, sets, and model work are excellent, even by today's standards, which isn't saying much.
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« Reply #3142 on: February 09, 2022, 04:19:31 PM »

Space 1999? Intolerable?! On the contrary, I would say Space 1999 is one of the best shows Gerry Anderson ever made, excluding of course Series 2 which was taken over by ITC America and desperately morphed into a children?s show. Series 1 is in my view a TV sci-fi masterpiece. The trio of Commander Koenig, Dr Russell and Professor Victor is marvellous. The one-off appearances from Peter Cushing, Christopher Lee (my 2 favourite horror actors) and Brian Blessed only add to the series? charm.
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« Reply #3143 on: February 09, 2022, 05:04:40 PM »

The entire concept of the show is totally non-sensical.  The writing is horrifically bad, and the acting is appalling.  All the best design and effects and music in the world can't save a thing like that.

I'm currently in the middle of a several-years-long Gerry Anderson DVD marathon, and 1999 is the only thing he's done I have decided NOT to buy and re-watch. I've put up with it and suffered through it enough.

Despite this, I have recently watched 2 very long documentaries about how the show came to be made. JESUS!!!! It just gets worse and worse and WORSE, the more I learn.  What went on behind-the-scenes that led to the series ever being created in the first place, in a CLUSTER-F*** of the worst sort imaginable.  And then, on top of that, they somhow managed to make it EVEN WORSE when it came back for a 2nd season (which almost didn't happen).

I normally don't like to argue things like this that involve personal taste, because it's always a waste of time... but I watched that show from the beginning when it debuted back in the mid-70s.  And a couple times since.  And it was NEVER that good in my eyes. 

I think, everything else aside, 1999 was the unavoidable result of a bad marriage getting worse as it went, and between seasons, ended in a NASTY divorce.


GOOD thing, too.  Gerry Anderson's next series was the BEST-written thing he'd done since the EARLY 60's.
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« Reply #3144 on: February 09, 2022, 06:06:22 PM »

At least we can agree on UFO being an excellent one. Good old Ed Bishop.
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« Reply #3145 on: February 09, 2022, 06:36:26 PM »


At least we can agree on UFO being an excellent one. Good old Ed Bishop.

Don't know if it was deliberate but most main characters in UFO looked a lot like marionettes, Bishop especially.
I really liked that series as well, but it had its own flaws.
Purple Wigs??
Fish Net uniforms??
Missiles nearly as big as the one man Scooty Puff Juniors that carried them???
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« Reply #3146 on: February 09, 2022, 11:19:45 PM »

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think, everything else aside, 1999 was the unavoidable result of a bad marriage getting worse as it went, and between seasons, ended in a NASTY divorce.
GOOD thing, too.  Gerry Anderson's next series was the BEST-written thing he'd done since the EARLY 60's. 

I presume you are speaking of the Andersons here. However Martin Landau has blamed Space 1999 being responsible for the break-up of his marriage. The American stars Lou Grade imported for his shows, [including Tony Curtis for the Persuaders] found the working conditions unexpected and hard to live with.  I'm not an Anderson Fan anyway and have watched only occasional episodes of all the Anderson shows.  Charlton had a comic book version of Space 1999 and I never paid much attention to that either.     
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« Reply #3147 on: February 10, 2022, 01:00:44 AM »

Artwise Charlton's Space: 1999 was, as they used to say, not without merit. Gray Morrow did some nice stuff, for example. The stories, courtesy of Joe Gill et al., were, as they still say, largely without merit.
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« Reply #3148 on: February 11, 2022, 07:38:39 AM »

I guess I'm in the minority here, but I was never really a fan of "UFO". Somehow, Ed Bishop just didn't strike me as the starship captain type. I guess just about any sci-fi was better than none at that time, so I did watch it, along with "Space 1999". Cheers, Bowers
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« Reply #3149 on: February 11, 2022, 07:52:03 PM »

I can honestly say, unless you watch UFO in (more or less) production order, you're not seeing the show in its best light.

Although it ran one year (totally out of sequence and with several monthss' breaks near the end), viewing it on the DVD set is like seeing 2 short seasons.

1 - SHADO struggles to barely gets its S*** together at all

2 - the aliens up their game, and most of the best-written stories are here

Which makes me REALLY wish there'd been a "3" (heh).


It's a real stretch, but the structure of the "big story" reminds me just a tiny bit of Jules Verne's "The Mysterious Island".  The first part of the book is a real slog to plow through.  My best friend said he had to stop after 50 pages, he couldn't deal with it.  But after that... it picks up and gets WAY better.

Shoving the lesser early episodes in between the far-better later ones (like they did!) DOESN'T help, in fact it destroys any sense of "building momentum".

I'm watching it again right now, and I just got past the "worst" one yesterday ("Priorities"), so I'm looking forward to enjoying the rest from here on out.


I just commented to my friend in Wales the other day, it strikes me-- now this is a VERY vague comparison-- one might almost compare the following characters...

Ed Straker -- Mr. Spock  (mostly cold & clinical)
Alec Freeman -- Dr. McCoy  (warm & caring)
Paul Foster -- Jim Kirk  (full of himself, cocky, over-confident, ladies' man, doesn't always play by the rules)

With that thought in mind... imagine if Spock were Kirk's commanding officer.   ;D
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