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Reading Group #346 - Brenda Starr, Reporter - Female artist and iconic character

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Quirky Quokka

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Hi everyone

This fortnight, I’ve chosen three Brenda Starr comics from different eras, across three different publishers. I thought it would be interesting to compare how she is portrayed over time.

Brenda Starr was created by female artist Dale Messick, who drew the strip from 1940 to 1980. Dale continued to write scripts for another couple of years, and it was then continued by other writers and artists, including Ramona Fradon. The strip finally ended in 2011.

I know many of you would be very familiar with Brenda. As an Australian, however, I had never heard of her until I read a book on women in comics a few years ago. Perhaps Panther knows if the strip was ever shown in Australia.


Brenda Starr #6 – Jan 1949 – Superior Publishers

This one includes the first appearance of Brenda’s overweight cousin, Abretha, who became one of the ensemble of secondary characters. It’s interesting (cringeworthy?), to see how ‘fat’ people were portrayed in those days.



https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=40684


Brenda Starr #13 – June 1955 – Charlton

I know some of you aren’t fans of Charlton, but I included this one because it shows how the character had evolved by the mid-50s, and also includes a page at the beginning with a photo and bio about Dale Messick.



https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=26496


Brenda Starr – Oct 1963 – Dell One Shots

This one-shot presents a different kind of Brenda. Is the makeover for better or worse?



https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=37764


I’ll be interested to know what you think of these particular books, but also anything else you know about this iconic character or her creator.

Cheers

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Brenda Starr movie - Brook Shields, Timothy Dalton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4jzASE--O4
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Brenda Starr movie - Brook Shields, Timothy Dalton.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4jzASE--O4


Thanks for the link, Panther. I haven't actually seen the movie, but it was released some years after it was made, due to disputes over distribution, and then bombed at the box office. Interesting that in the synopsis of the movie, the Brenda Starr comic strip is drawn by a man, who then inserts himself into the strip when Brenda leaves the strip to run off to the jungle. Makes sense to me  :D Hopefully, the comic books are more of a hit.

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My favorite comic book artist Mike Grell started off as her assistant in the late '60s and/or early '70s, and by that point she was only drawing the characters' faces and he drew everything else. He's often joked that when he writes his autobiography he'll call it "Doing Brenda's Body".  ;)

Dale's Lambiek entry & her Wikipedia entry.
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My favorite comic book artist Mike Grell started off as her assistant in the late '60s and/or early '70s, and by that point she was only drawing the characters' faces and he drew everything else. He's often joked that when he writes his autobiography he'll call it "Doing Brenda's Body".  ;)

Dale's Lambiek entry & her Wikipedia entry.


I knew I could count on you for some tasty tidbits, SuperScrounge, and you didn't disappoint. That would be some autobiography! I wasn't familiar with Mike Grell, so I just looked him up. He certainly worked on a variety of books. I wonder how many of his female characters had Brenda's body?  :D

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Brenda Starr appeared in our local papers when I was a kid. Though I read it from time to time (I'll read almost anything) it held no interest to me. I wanted Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. So when I sat down to read these books I had no preset notions.

I should clarify that. I mean I had no preset notions about the characters and stories. I have carried an impression of Dale Messick's artwork with me all these years. That gave me my first surprise while reading these three comics. In the two strip-reprint books Messick's art doesn't remotely resemble my mental picture. I remember her art being much more exaggerated, like that in the Dell comic. Brenda's overdone eyelashes and weird nose, for example, or all the background stars and accent lines. But then the strips in the first two books are from the late 1940s-early 1950s and my memories date from the early-to-middle 1960s. Messick's style might have changed considerably by then.

#6 (Superior Publications)

Talk about coming in halfway through the second act! The first story desperately needs extra captions to explain references to earlier events. I had to dig up other issues to sort out the Larry-Tom relationship. I never did find an explanation for the Vera de Verve business.

The two remaining stories come straight from Cringe City. Yes, this was a different time, standards change, and all that. Even so, Messick lays the fat jokes on so thick it's painful. At least these stories make more sense than the first one.

Dale Messick's artwork is a step or two above competent though not very exciting. In the first story the characters overact. Pesky the office boy is the worst offender, striking melodramatic poses and pulling goofy faces. That said, I applaud Messick's trying to put some life into her figures rather than just having them stand around like many comic artists did.

The lettering on the Brenda stories is pretty bad. It looks as though the editor dumped the original strip's lettering and had someone re-letter every panel. I found a couple of Brenda Starr originals from this period. They'd been lettered with a Leroy lettering tool. Did the editor think it'd be too difficult to cut and paste the original text? Maybe the original strips were very copy-heavy, and once the panels were cropped to fit the comic book page there wasn't room for all the text. An aggressive trimming of the dialogue might have made so many changes the editor had no choice but to re-letter everything. At any rate the letterer is no great shakes, plus he misspells "your" as "you're."

Wrapping up this issue of lighthearted comedy and romance we have...a blood and thunder western???
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Quirky Quokka

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Hi everyone

I found this article which gives a lot of the history, timelines, issues and characters associated with Brenda Starr over the years.

https://www.markcarlson-ghost.com/index.php/2020/06/30/brenda-starr/

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Crashryan said:

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#6 (Superior Publications)

Talk about coming in halfway through the second act! The first story desperately needs extra captions to explain references to earlier events. I had to dig up other issues to sort out the Larry-Tom relationship. I never did find an explanation for the Vera de Verve business.


Well done for digging up those other issues. My quick search couldn't find anything about Vera de Verve either. Maybe there was an earlier strip in which she'd been introduced as Brenda's alter-ego. Or maybe we're meant to just assume who she is from the backstory given in this issue.

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The two remaining stories come straight from Cringe City. Yes, this was a different time, standards change, and all that. Even so, Messick lays the fat jokes on so thick it's painful. At least these stories make more sense than the first one.


Yes, the 'fat' jokes are certainly cringeworthy these days, especially as Brenda also seems to disparage her cousin initially. There's a bit about the 'fat' issue in the separate link I've posted. I was interested that you referred to the different 'stories'. Although they weren't labelled as Parts 1, 2 and 3, it seemed to me as though that's what they actually were. They seemed to flow on from one another, which I guess makes sense if it was taken from the newspaper strip. I'm not sure how much editing would have been done for the comic book.

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Wrapping up this issue of lighthearted comedy and romance we have...a blood and thunder western???


LOL - Yes, I did wonder about that. Perhaps they figured that the girls would be interested in the comic, but their brothers would pick it up for the blood and thunder western - and then perhaps they would also have an excuse for admiring the panels of Brenda in her underwear  :D And if you persevere through the western, you get a page of cutouts for Brenda and her fashions. Bargain!

Thanks too for your thoughts on the lettering. I hadn't picked that up.

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 An interesting choice, Quirky! I do remember reading a few Brenda strips in the late 50's and early 60's. Of course, that was back when the Sunday comic section was huge (or seemed to be) with just about all the greats.
I read the Dell one-shot and noticed at once the art just didn't seem right. I checked the Grand Comics Database and they didn't have much info, just a few comments. The cover was credited to Messick with a question mark, and the other comment  stated "Art is in Dale Messick's style, but may just be swiping."
Granted, she may have simplified her style later on, but the poses don't quite ring true. In the earlier stories, Brenda didn't just wear fashion, she modelled it! I'm wondering if Dell just put some house artists on the job.
Anyway, still a good read! With Dell comics of the time, you got a couple extra pages of content because they often used the front and back inner covers and sometimes even the back cover! This time, however, we got a great ad illustrated by the amazing Russ Heath! And yes, if you must know, I did send away for a set of these bloodthirsty Romans! I believe I still have a few left somewhere in my massive "Basement of Doom"! Cheers, bowers
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Ah, Brenda Starr. Growing up you didn’t have access to PLAYBOY in our town...so you had to do with the ladies in the SIMPSONS catalogues wearing bras and comics like Brenda Starr.
I think of the three issues offered, I liked the Dell one the best. It had a 60’s groove to it, and the clothing seemed to defy gravity itself. Besides, the guy with the eyepatch reminded me of the sign to GENTLEMEN JIM’S steakhouse. Great sandwiches by the way.
I’m amazed it lasted as long as it did. Also impressed that it was Mike Grell doing the heavy lifting.Didn’t realize. Really liked his work on the Timothy Dalton James Bond adaptation.
But it was a nice retrospective, Q.Q. You could see the development and the influence of social trends. A good trip down memory lane. And yes, bowers, my fave page is also the Roman Legionnaires convention, as Yosemite Sam would say.
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Brenda Starr 14 (Charlton)

First off let me thank QQ for the link to Mark Carlson-Ghost's exhaustive history of Brenda Starr. It goes a bit past exhaustive into exhausting but it answers all my questions about the strip's history and its cast of characters. What a roller-coaster life poor Brenda led!

One thing I learned from the post is that the strips in the Superior issue are from the feature's earliest days. It's no wonder then that Dale Messick's art was so different from the examples I saw as a youth. Twenty years will do that do you.

The editor of this Charlton collection does a better job of transforming the daily strip into a readable comic book. There are still references to past events, like Haelo Angel's duplicity and Basil's prison stint, which would have confused a new reader. However the rest of the book stands by itself. Having four rows of panels per page, something I usually dislike, provides ample room for the story to develop. The ending is abrupt, but surprise of surprises, the next issue picks up where this one leaves off. Superior didn't bother with that nicety.

All in all, I've found Brenda Starr to be more interesting than enjoyable. I'm surprised at the diverse character types Messick put into her strip, especially given it was the 1940s. Maybe much of it went over readers' heads.

This collection demonstrates one of the unspoken rules of Golden Age newspaper strips. Even in serious strips supporting characters and villains had to have punning names.  I admit I like funny character names, but they can get in the way of taking a strip seriously. Dale Messick really stretched for some of them (Hank O'Hare?). Thanks to Mark Carlson-Ghost, I finally understood Abretha's name. I pronounced it A-bree-tha, rhyming with Aretha. With that the last name didn't make sense. MC-G reveals that  it's supposed to be  A-breath-o'--making the name A breath o' breeze. Not a winner in my book.

I couldn't resist searching to see if there's a word for this type of name. Sure enough there is. My good friend Mr Wikipedia says the word is aptronym. I quote:

The Encyclopædia Britannica says that the term was allegedly invented by a columnist Franklin P. Adams, who coined the word "aptronym" as an anagram of patronym, to emphasize "apt". The Oxford English Dictionary reported that the word appeared in a Funk & Wagnall’s dictionary in 1921, defined as "a surname indicative of an occupation: as, Glass, the glazier". Psychologist Carl Jung wrote in his 1960 book Synchronicity that there was a "sometimes quite grotesque coincidence between a man's name and his peculiarities."

Wikipedia gives a long list of examples, some rather amusing. One of my favorite aptronyms does not appear in the list: an imaginary 1920s Boston jazz band (fom an old indie comic), John Wilfahrt and his Beantown Blowers.

Earlier QQ referred to how newspaper strip stories run into one another. That reminded me of another American newspaper strip rule of thumb I encountered during my brief stay in SyndicateLand. I started drawing the Star Trek strip after Thomas Warkentin left. He'd both written and drawn the feature and finished the current storyline before moving on. Both the new writer and I liked the British gimmick of beginning a new storyline with a "preview panel" giving the story's title alongside a catchy image. We did that on our first continuity and got an immediate cease-and-desist from the syndicate head. He maintained that newspaper editors are constantly looking for excuses to drop strips. Running one story into another, the thinking went, means an editor must drop the strip in mid-story, which they're reluctant to do because readers would complain. But a definite "The End / Beginning To-morrow" provides a convenient cancellation point, making it easier to dump the strips.

Personally I never understood the reasoning. Why would editors look for excuses to drop a strip? Assuming the comics page kept the same number of features after a cancellation, it means the paper would have to find another strip to fill the spot, which strip would have to build a following from scratch. I can understand dumping a strip with low readership, but in that case why not go ahead and drop it in midstream? So the strip's last two or three readers might threaten to cancel their newspaper subscriptions. Is that reason enough to keep a failing strip? I dunno.
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An interesting choice, Quirky! I do remember reading a few Brenda strips in the late 50's and early 60's. Of course, that was back when the Sunday comic section was huge (or seemed to be) with just about all the greats.
I read the Dell one-shot and noticed at once the art just didn't seem right. I checked the Grand Comics Database and they didn't have much info, just a few comments. The cover was credited to Messick with a question mark, and the other comment  stated "Art is in Dale Messick's style, but may just be swiping."
Granted, she may have simplified her style later on, but the poses don't quite ring true. In the earlier stories, Brenda didn't just wear fashion, she modelled it! I'm wondering if Dell just put some house artists on the job.
Anyway, still a good read! With Dell comics of the time, you got a couple extra pages of content because they often used the front and back inner covers and sometimes even the back cover! This time, however, we got a great ad illustrated by the amazing Russ Heath! And yes, if you must know, I did send away for a set of these bloodthirsty Romans! I believe I still have a few left somewhere in my massive "Basement of Doom"! Cheers, bowers


Hi Bowers

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The art does vary a lot across the three issues, so it would be interesting to know if some of them were done by others, or if Messick was assisted by others. SuperScrounge had mentioned that Mike Grell assisted by doing the bodies in later comics, but that may have been after this one.  I guess there were a lot of uncredited house artists in those days who helped in various ways.

And well done for sending away for a set of those bloodthirsty Romans. What other 'comic book related gems' do you have in that Basement of Doom?  Alas, I never sent away for anything, mainly because I was in Australia and most of the comics I was reading in the late 60s/early 70s were American. But I used to be fascinated by the ones that showed the prizes you could win by selling subscriptions. I used to dream of the prizes I would pick if I could.

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Ah, Brenda Starr. Growing up you didn’t have access to PLAYBOY in our town...so you had to do with the ladies in the SIMPSONS catalogues wearing bras and comics like Brenda Starr.


Morgus, I was interested in the bio they gave of Dale Messick at the beginning of the 1955 one. They say it was her brothers who encouraged her to give Brenda those curves, so you can thank them  :D

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I think of the three issues offered, I liked the Dell one the best. It had a 60’s groove to it, and the clothing seemed to defy gravity itself. Besides, the guy with the eyepatch reminded me of the sign to GENTLEMEN JIM’S steakhouse. Great sandwiches by the way.


I like looking back at comics from the 60s and early 70s. Such a groovy, swinging time. I have a volume of Batgirl comics from that period, and it's a real slice of the times. Though we don't have Gentleman Jim's restaurants in Australia (at least none I've seen), so I had to look it up. Who could resist a man with an eyepatch? In fact, when I used to watch 'Days of Our Lives' back in my high school and Uni days, one of the most popular characters was Patch, who wore ... well, a patch. I remember reading an interview with the actor who played him, who had two good eyes in real life, and he said the patch he had to wear for the filming gave him a headache. But I digress. Back to Brenda ... maybe Messick was ahead of the times in having the beautiful Brenda fall for a man that was 'less than perfect' in the world's view of a handsome face. Way to go, Brenda!

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I’m amazed it lasted as long as it did.


Maybe it was because Messick did seem to change with the times in terms of fashions, storylines etc? I guess by the time the 60s rolled around, Brenda was well and truly a cultural icon.

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Brenda Starr 14 (Charlton)

First off let me thank QQ for the link to Mark Carlson-Ghost's exhaustive history of Brenda Starr. It goes a bit past exhaustive into exhausting but it answers all my questions about the strip's history and its cast of characters. What a roller-coaster life poor Brenda led!



Well done, if you got through that whole article, Crashryan. I just skimmed, but it was useful to get the characters straight. I was confused about whether Hank was male or female to start with. Now we know. But how did she get the nickname Hank? Is it short for Henrietta?

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The editor of this Charlton collection does a better job of transforming the daily strip into a readable comic book. There are still references to past events, like Haelo Angel's duplicity and Basil's prison stint, which would have confused a new reader. However the rest of the book stands by itself.


Yes, you certainly feel like you're arriving in the middle of something ... and we are. I had no previous knowledge of Brenda, so that cheat sheet in the other link I sent round was handy.

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All in all, I've found Brenda Starr to be more interesting than enjoyable. I'm surprised at the diverse character types Messick put into her strip, especially given it was the 1940s. Maybe much of it went over readers' heads.


Yes, and even more diversity from what I read in that article. Some of it was probably groundbreaking at the time. Brenda Breeze and the African-American characters also got their own cutouts and fashions, so it wasn't just left up to Brenda.

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This collection demonstrates one of the unspoken rules of Golden Age newspaper strips. Even in serious strips supporting characters and villains had to have punning names.  I admit I like funny character names, but they can get in the way of taking a strip seriously. Dale Messick really stretched for some of them (Hank O'Hare?). Thanks to Mark Carlson-Ghost, I finally understood Abretha's name. I pronounced it A-bree-tha, rhyming with Aretha. With that the last name didn't make sense. MC-G reveals that  it's supposed to be  A-breath-o'--making the name A breath o' breeze. Not a winner in my book.

I couldn't resist searching to see if there's a word for this type of name. Sure enough there is. My good friend Mr Wikipedia says the word is aptronym.


Ah ha. I've learned something. There certainly were a lot of funny and punny names in that list at the other link. I'm kind of sorry we didn't meet Wanda Fonda. Was she related to Jane?

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Earlier QQ referred to how newspaper strip stories run into one another. That reminded me of another American newspaper strip rule of thumb I encountered during my brief stay in SyndicateLand. I started drawing the Star Trek strip after Thomas Warkentin left. He'd both written and drawn the feature and finished the current storyline before moving on. Both the new writer and I liked the British gimmick of beginning a new storyline with a "preview panel" giving the story's title alongside a catchy image. We did that on our first continuity and got an immediate cease-and-desist from the syndicate head. He maintained that newspaper editors are constantly looking for excuses to drop strips. Running one story into another, the thinking went, means an editor must drop the strip in mid-story, which they're reluctant to do because readers would complain. But a definite "The End / Beginning To-morrow" provides a convenient cancellation point, making it easier to dump the strips.


I love hearing these true experiences. Must have been an interesting time, Crashryan. Did you ever do the ComicCon circuit as an artist? I would have paid to hear those stories.

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Hi everyone

I do believe I've found a little gem for you. A 5-minute interview with Dale Messick from 1963 on the Lee Phillip show. She even has a drawing of Brenda with her that looks like the 1963 comic we're reading. It's part of a longer clip. The interview starts at about the 1:46 mark and ends at about the 6:44 mark. Worth a look.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tblKDH1x9LE

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 Thanks, Quirky! This was, indeed, a gem! So fun to actually see and hear her dicussing hair styles and fashion trends as they related to her strip.
Quirky, my "Basement of Doom" consists of a couple of downstairs rooms packed with comics, Big Little Books, a plethora of toys from the '40s 50's, and '60s as well as countless videos and cd's. Just the place to hide away on a rainy afternoon! It gets its name because I told my very young kids and grandkids they couldn't go downstairs because that's where I kept my alligator! Just didn't want the little darlings getting in to everything. (They actually believed it for a VERY short time!) Cheers, bowers
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"Quirky?"[Edit - never mind, a lot on my mind, wasn't thinking straight.]   
I followed that link and the YouTube AI threw up this one.
To Tell the Truth - Dale Messick, creator of "Brenda Starr"; Balai Kalahi (May 5, 1960)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCI7RkE7x9w
Dale's segment starts about 10:00.
Enjoy!
They throw her a few curves!

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Brenda Starr 1 (Dell)

Dell comics from this period are my favorite oddball brand. Since the 1930s, Dell had partnered with Western Printing & Lithographing to produce comics. Dell bankrolled and distributed, and Western provided the content. When Western decided to go it alone in the early 1960s, launching Gold Key, Dell was left up a creek. All the juicy media licenses that made Dell comics successful--the Disney titles, TV adaptations, movie tie-ins, etc.--were held by Western, not Dell. Dell had to scramble to find new material. They ended up with a continually-changing mix of original series and second-string media adaptations. A lot of unusual, off-the-wall, and downright weird comics resulted.

Brenda Starr seems to be one of the many titles Dell threw onto the wall to see if it'd stick. I guess it didn't, as there was only one issue. Like I said before the artwork looks like the strip I remember from my youth, which would have been right about the time this issue appeared. I agree with the GCD that it isn't by Messick or her staff. Some of the secondary characters remind me of Henry Scarpelli, who drew other TV adaptations at this time. However I'm no Scarpelli expert.

There are a lot of scenes of people standing around talking, so it's no surprise the artist resorted to the old talking-building shot more than once. Some of his choices make me wonder if he was making fun of the endless chatter. Especially our page 9, where instead of the speaking characters we get shots of a photographer walking down a hall and a couple sharing sodas in a distant restaurant.

What I noticed most about the story is the peculiar pacing. Many sequences are padded out, splitting dialogue over two panels when it could have--should have--been in one. The most obvious example is on the first page, panels 2 and 3. One panel for Twirl saying "Teaser?" and another for Teaser answering "Yes, Twirl?" Actually both panels are unnecessary. The women could have introduced themselves while discussing Brenda's flight on the next page. This happens repeatedly (see for example the scene with the bellhop on page 16), moderately important scenes given too much space.

Then, when something more important happens, it's cut to nothing! The worst example is on pages 19-21. Two and a half pages of chitchat end with Brenda and Jackpot in a taxi en route to the mysterious woman's final destination (page 21, panel 1) to snoop around. The next instant it's tomorrow and Brenda is in the paper's reference library looking for info about someone named Olga Volga. Apparently Brenda and Jackpot discovered where the mystery woman lived and somehow learned her name. That is an important scene, a scene we've spent three pages building up to, and it doesn't appear! One gets the impression the scriptwriter wasn't accustomed to writing comics. Too bad, because these early Dells had 32 beautifully-printed story pages, enough room for a more complex story than the average comic book.

Despite Hank's extensive exposition in the opening pages, the story probably would have made more sense to a reader of the newspaper strip than to someone new to the character. One last sour note. The crowd in the newsroom finally figure out the fake black orchid gives off a toxic gas. So what do they do? They toss it out the window into the street where it can gas a few passersby!
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"Quirky?"[Edit - never mind, a lot on my mind, wasn't thinking straight.]   
I followed that link and the YouTube AI threw up this one.
To Tell the Truth - Dale Messick, creator of "Brenda Starr"; Balai Kalahi (May 5, 1960)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCI7RkE7x9w
Dale's segment starts about 10:00.
Enjoy!
They throw her a few curves!


Thanks for that, Panther. Interesting that they all assumed the successful cartoonist must have been the man. Though they did ask her quite a few obscure questions about other cartoonists. I remember watching a panel show like that in Brisbane in the late sixties/early seventies. It didn't have that title, but it was the same concept. I think it was one of Reg Grundy's shows, but I just did a quick search and couldn't find it.

Thanks for digging that one up.

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Brenda Starr #6 – Jan 1949 – Superior Publishers
https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=40684
That cover.
There is a video out there showing a lady in exactly that predicament, She's on a three wheel assistance chair and trying to exit a store. The chair gets through but she is too wide. She has to get off, go through the door sideways and then pull the chair after her.
Begs the question, tho, how did she get into the store in the first place?
Thoughts;-
I can understand why male comic artists devote a lot of time to women in underwear, but, qusestion, why do women artists do it?
Messick spends a lot of time on the details of Brenda's dressing room. I'm assuming this would increase the female fans of the strip? It's very much a strip aimed at a female audience. The details of the office are accurate too. We forget that back in the heyday  of the daily newspaper comic strips, women were just as much an audience as men - the paper was delivered at home - thrown over the fence. You read it over breakfast or after breakfast with a cup of tea. The main Queensland newspaper ran - 'The Heart of Juliet Jones' created by Elliott Caplin and drawn by Stan Drake. Never a huge fan of soap opera but I remember Stan Drake's Art.
Yes, there are quite a few jumps in the continuity here. Something obviously occurs between panel #4 and Panel #5 on page 7. And the whole 'Larry' subplot is not resolved. 
Who doesn't have relatives who find and exhibit embarrasing photos of you when you were a child?!
I know that during the Golden Age, strips that were very different could be found in the same book, but the cowboy story seems really out of place here.
The Cut-outs page.
Pretty standard in comics aimed at women and they always seemed to not lack for contributors either, so not a bad way to get regular readers. I have a feeling that this page was done some years after the test of the 'Brenda' content in this book. The art, I think, really is Dale Messick. The heads and the eyes.   
Enjoyed looking at it.       

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Thanks, Quirky! This was, indeed, a gem! So fun to actually see and hear her dicussing hair styles and fashion trends as they related to her strip.
Quirky, my "Basement of Doom" consists of a couple of downstairs rooms packed with comics, Big Little Books, a plethora of toys from the '40s 50's, and '60s as well as countless videos and cd's. Just the place to hide away on a rainy afternoon! It gets its name because I told my very young kids and grandkids they couldn't go downstairs because that's where I kept my alligator! Just didn't want the little darlings getting in to everything. (They actually believed it for a VERY short time!) Cheers, bowers


Bowers, maybe you should open up your basement as a museum. I'd pay to see that! It sounds like a lot of fun. Though I wonder what my mother would have said back in the day if I'd told her, 'I met a fellow who invited me to come over sometime and see his Basement of Doom'  :D

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Brenda Starr #6 – Jan 1949 – Superior Publishers

I can understand why male comic artists devote a lot of time to women in underwear, but, question, why do women artists do it?
Messick spends a lot of time on the details of Brenda's dressing room. I'm assuming this would increase the female fans of the strip? It's very much a strip aimed at a female audience. The details of the office are accurate too. We forget that back in the heyday  of the daily newspaper comic strips, women were just as much an audience as men - the paper was delivered at home - thrown over the fence. The main Queensland newspaper ran - 'The Heart of Juliet Jones' created by Elliott Caplin and drawn by Stan Drake. Never a huge fan of soap opera but I remember Stan Drake's Art.



Hi Panther

In the bio of Dale Messick at the beginning of the Charlton comic, they mention that it was Dale's brothers who suggested that Brenda have those curves, so maybe she was drawing the underwear shots for the brothers  :D

I remember Juliet Jones being in the Courier Mail for years, but it wasn't something I was interested in when I was younger. I would probably appreciate the art more now. I found it hard to follow continuing strips where you would only get three frames and a bit of dialogue each day. So I tended not to read the strips like Juliet Jones, Prince Valiant and Phantom back then. I was more likely to follow the funny ones that were self-contained, like Peanuts, Hagar, BC, For Better or Worse; and later Swamp and Snake. More recently, I picked up a couple of volumes of Modesty Blaise strips that my library was getting rid of in their monthly sale. I enjoyed those because the whole story was there. But there must have been people who read the daily installments of those kinds of strips or they wouldn't have bene so popular.

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Brenda Starr 1 (Dell)

Brenda Starr seems to be one of the many titles Dell threw onto the wall to see if it'd stick. I guess it didn't, as there was only one issue. Like I said before the artwork looks like the strip I remember from my youth, which would have been right about the time this issue appeared. I agree with the GCD that it isn't by Messick or her staff. Some of the secondary characters remind me of Henry Scarpelli, who drew other TV adaptations at this time. However I'm no Scarpelli expert.



Hi Crashryan

It would be interesting to know why this ended up as a one-shot, as the strip was obviously still popular and indeed continued until 2011. Did other publishers do Brenda comic books in the 60s and beyond?

I'm not sure if you had a chance to look at the link I put up with the 1963 interview Dale did on the Lee Phillips show. In that, she holds up a sketch of a new-look Brenda which looks just like the face and hairstyle of the one in the 1963. So maybe Dale was drawing her that way in the strip, but other artists were doing the comic book in the same style?

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The last week was very busy. Now I have time to read these choices.

Never really read Brenda Starr as a kid as she wasn't in the papers my parents subscribed to so would only see her occasionally when I went through other papers looking for comics, and being a story strip it's hard to get hooked on the occasional individual strip so we'll see what I think of the strip now.

Brenda Starr Comics #6

"Dual" in the Night
The Brenda/Vera thing kind of reminded me of when Diana Prince would wonder about Steve Trevor ignoring her while being in love with Wonder Woman.

Brenda's "Big" Surprise
According to the Brenda Starr Wikipedia entry, Abretha first appeared in August 1941 so all these strips would be from 1941.

How can Abretha get through the front door, but not the kitchen door? You'd think both doors would be built to the same standard.

She's Too Fat For "He"!
Pesky Miller certainly lives up to his name.

Eating a box of chocolates while reading a dieting book. Subtle.  ;)

Good thing the fabric of that skirt is strong enough to support Abretha while she's lifted up and sings. Be quite embarrassing if it had ripped and she fell.

The Brenda strips from this era were okay. More slice of life and humor than the adventure-driven storylines that I was expecting, but were fine.


Better Late Than Never
Okay text story.


The Trigger-Happy Stranger!
What's a good match for Brenda Starr stories... a western! Bwha?  :o

That header above the title made me think this was a series character, but I guess not.

Interesting one-shot. Focusing on a criminal and the saloon girl sounding more like floozy from a crime comic makes me wonder if this was an attempt to do a western-version of the crime comics that I believe were popular at this time.

I'm now imagining a host in a cowboy hat with Outlaw on it. "Howdy, pardners, this here's Mr. Outlaw with another tale about how Outlawing Don't Pay!"  ;)
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Brenda Starr #13

Dale Messick bio
"Because of her first name, many persons think Dale is a man, and they wonder how a man can think up those hats."
???... really? Did they never hear of men in fashion design?


Main story
According to Wikipedia, Atwell Livwright took over the paper in 1948, and Abretha left in June 1948, which pretty much dates all these comics to early to mid 1948 (and given the story says the Taylor's child was born in June, then this is probably Abretha's last big story).

Abretha has slimmed down in the seven years since her introduction. She can probably fit in the kitchen now.  ;)

Page 11, panel 1. "Skeenteen minutes later"
Bwha? Was skeenteen a typo or an old slang term?

I think the people cutting up and pasting the strips to fit the pages got a little confused with some panels.

Page 33, panel 1. Is that a butterfly tattoo on that woman's back? Didn't realize that some high-class women in the 1940s were doing tattoos as fashion statements.

How hot is that pea soup she dumped on Timber's head? Too hot and he could have some serious burns.

Okay story.
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