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Peter Wheat

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OtherEric

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Peter Wheat
« on: February 27, 2009, 09:01:43 PM »

I just got a few issues in today; I will probably scan them out of order since they're short & sweet and look like they'll be fairly easy to work with.  And, of course, I'm a huge Kelly fan.  ;D

I've got 19, 20, 23, and 28.  Does anybody have any others they can scan?  Or does anybody else even know somewhere online there are issues available to buy so I can scan them?  To say they seem scarce is almost an understatement. I can't even find any of the other Kelly issues for sale period; even without regard to sale price.  (I've seen a couple other copies of 19, but that's it.)
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 09:09:08 PM »

Your posts are the very first I've ever heard of these Eric.
Sorry.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 09:15:59 PM »

Tell me about it, Yoc.  A 16 page Kelly story a month for just shy of THREE YEARS and it seems to be the best-kept secret in comics.  I only just heard of it, the GCD only has covers for four of the 35 Kelly issues, etc, etc.  (Side note:  Once I post my issues I'll need to figure out how to add covers to the GCD; they have none of the issues I just got.)

At least the fact they're almost unknown is keeping the costs down; the four issues cost me less than 40 with shipping.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 09:28:33 PM »

Posting on the GCD is easy. When you go to the title click on cover gallery then scan matrix and it will give you the issues to click and add the covers.

http://comics.org/scans.lasso?SeriesID=25373
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 02:04:58 AM »

Thank you, Narf.  That's my first addition to the GCD, it was relatively painless.  :D
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 02:28:10 AM »

appreciated thanks
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Yoc

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 06:23:51 AM »

Thanks for these new scans Eric!
A new wrinkle to the Kelly career.  The Glob book was another fun find on usenet last year.
He must have done other book and magazine work.  Just to find them...

-Yoc
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 07:08:57 AM »


Thanks for these new scans Eric!
A new wrinkle to the Kelly career.  The Glob book was another fun find on usenet last year.
He must have done other book and magazine work.  Just to find them...

-Yoc

You guys want some REALLY unknown Walt Kelly? How about the 1944 United States Armed Forces Institute publication "The Mechanics of English - a self-teaching course"? It's a 237 page digest-sized booklet with a few dozen spot illustrations in b&w by "Walter C. Kelly, Jr."

Then there's the War Department's Language Guide series. Kelly did half the illustrations for "Japanese" (Al Avison probably did the other half), PROBABLY all the illustrations for "German" and he may have ghosted the Joe Palooka Ham Fisher style for "Serbo-Croatian". All from 1943. There may be others, but those are the one I have....

Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 07:17:56 AM »

ps. for more Kelly info see my bio of him at http://www.bpib.com/kelly.htm
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 07:42:45 AM »

LOL,
Jim, I should have asked you first!
Now, are those things PD?
And is Complete Nursery Song Book reprints from Fairy Tale Parade?

-Yoc
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 07:42:59 AM »

Pretty sure that Glob scan is mine, Yoc.  Unless someone else has scanned it as well.

The following info is from Fort Mudge Most #40.  This is a fanzine devoted to Kelly and Pogo.

All Peter Wheat material is giveaways.  There were two series, Adventures of Peter Wheat and Peter Wheat News. Both started in 1948.  They were delivered (along with the home-to-home bread deliveries).  They came out monthly though they are not all dated particularly Advs.  They were both printed by Western Publishing.  

Advs was 16 pages long and all newsprint.  Most of the stories involved the Wizard's attempt to take over the wheat filed.  Dragonel originally helped her father but later sided with Peter.  

News was printed on heavier paper -- a single sheet of 11x17 paper folded to make four 8 1/2 x 11 pages.  The first two pages were a cover and news.  The last two pages had part of a Kelly story.  The News was designed to have these last two pages cut off and folded once more to make a small 5 1/2 x 8 1/2 4-page booklet.  Stories ran for three issues (12 pages).  

Kelly did issues #1-35 of Advs.  Al Hubbard did issues #36-66.
Kelly did News #1-30 according to Overstreet, but FMM thinks there were 36 issues total all by Kelly.

Advs #21 was reprinted in Walt Kelly's Christmas Classics
Advs #9 was reprinted in Walt Kelly's Springtime Tales.

I can provide b&w copies of Advs 1-2 and the story pages from News #1-2 as reprinted in FMM #40.  There is no copyright on the original as shown in the reprint.

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 08:01:02 AM »


LOL,
Jim, I should have asked you first!
Now, are those things PD?
And is Complete Nursery Song Book reprints from Fairy Tale Parade?

-Yoc

You should ALWAYS ask me first, Yoc.

Only "The Mechanics of English" has a copyright, and it's by The Macmillan Co. You should be able to look it up to see if it's renewed. Author is listed as A.I. Spangler.

No, The Complete Nursery Song Book is all new material, as far as I know. I don't own a copy.

Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 08:15:51 AM »

I would love to see those, Jon.  Not sure if they would be allowed on the site, though.

The Peter Wheat news sounds neat, too.  The problem being that, if the Fort Mudge Most isn't even sure how many issues there were, they're probably downright rare.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 02:00:29 AM »

Has anyone seen The Walt Kelly Reader vol 1 published last fall by by Pure Imagination?  Apparently it had some Peter Wheat material as well.
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OtherEric

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2009, 07:45:37 AM »

Oh, there's a Peter Wheat coloring book on eBay right now.  The seller says it's Kelly art; I'm not quite sure from the cover.  Actually, the more I look, the less I think it is.  But the cover isn't the interior, of course.  I don't think it's Hubbard, either.  I don't suppose they mentioned this in the Fort Mudge Most as well, Jon?

Worth a small bid, in any case.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2009, 06:50:57 PM »

Apparently at least some Kelly art, Eric.

"Other Peter Wheat items were produced over the years:  PW Coloring Book (1951), PW Fun Book (1952) and PW Puzzle Book (1952) all contain at least some Kelly art."
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OtherEric

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 07:06:05 PM »

Note to self, then:  Figure out how much I'm really willing to bid.  :)  Thanks for the info, Jon.
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OtherEric

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 08:55:44 AM »

And another question, even though I'm definitely trying to get this for myself as a Kelly oddity.  Would a fringe product like this be appropriate to post here?  (I know at least a few people would want to see scans and I will make them available if I do win.)
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2009, 06:51:15 AM »

If its Kelly - I for one want to see it!
If you get them let JC know the particulars and he can see if they are PD.

We've got some Captain Marvel oddball stuff, why no Kelly?
-Yoc
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2009, 10:50:27 PM »

The Copyright Office database (we're talking about post-1950 material, right?) doesn't have any listings with Peter Wheat in the title, so it looks about as safe as it's going to get.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2009, 10:54:55 PM »

Here are two other Kelly items from my collection:




These are circa 1961/1964 if memory serves.

Is anyone interested in the WWII language pamphlets I mentioned above?

Peace, Jim (|:{>
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2009, 11:42:29 PM »


Is anyone interested in the WWII language pamphlets I mentioned above?


I happen to enjoy language materials, especially the sorts that are designed for fast acquisition.  So add me to the long list of people who want to see the Kelly art.
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Yoc

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2009, 02:50:53 AM »

Thanks Jim!
Yes, I'd love to see something from them as well.

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OtherEric

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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2009, 06:48:27 AM »

Is there any question I want to see the Kelly material?  ;D

I'm pretty sure the pamphlets you posted covers of are reprinted in one of the later Fireside Pogo books, Jim.  Not nearly as fun as the original, of course.  But a bit easier to find.  I don't think I've ever seen the language items, though.
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Re: Peter Wheat
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2009, 07:56:12 PM »


Is there any question I want to see the Kelly material?  ;D

I'm pretty sure the pamphlets you posted covers of are reprinted in one of the later Fireside Pogo books, Jim.  Not nearly as fun as the original, of course.  But a bit easier to find.  I don't think I've ever seen the language items, though.

I'll leave you to figure out just which Fireside Pogo books these might have appeared in, Eric,
I never bought those, since I have all the material that they reprinted in the its original form. And perhaps you could request the language books with your next scanning lot. That way you could give me your take on the "Ham Fisher" art.

Peace, Jim (|:{>
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