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Reading Group #292 The unusual art of Basil Wolverton
« on: March 06, 2023, 01:04:26 AM »

Hi readers

Something different for you this time. A few examples of art & stories by Basil Wolverton, some with a sci-fi theme and some more humorous. I've included three comics, by all means feel free to comment on the other contents as well as (or instead of) Wolverton's.

1) Weird Tales #3 https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=40515

2} Mister Mystery #7 https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=21322

3} Ibis the Invincible #3 https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=59127

Hope you find something to whet your whistle!
All the best
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2023, 03:27:27 AM »

Kingcat,
well done! "Nobody expects the inquisition! Basil Wolverton!"
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2023, 04:28:36 AM »

Interesting selections, K1ngcat. Just the sort of books that fans of Judge Parker would read  ;)

I look forward to being educated.

Cheers

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2023, 01:50:08 AM »

Yes. Basil Wolverton.
The cover for WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE should have been in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT, and I hope it was, along with other stuff Wolverton could have hacked off the good doctor with. NIGHTMARE WORLD would have been great start.
The assistant in Mortellaro story reminds me of Smithers from THE SIMPSONS. And in the advanced age of 1995.
MISTER MYSTERY has one of the best set ups ever with the hair saver ad right beside THE BRAIN BATS FROM VENUS. BiffBangPow was right, reading that story in and of itself would have been a crazy ride in 1952, but those two images together side by side would have been the perfect touch. Hey, any chance that the story in THE MAN WHO BEAT THE CHAIR is true? 
The JUMPIN’ JUPITER and MYSTIC MOOT stories were actually funny and are fine representatives of Wolverton’s  humour line.
All in all a great overview of the artists stuff. Only thing missing is his End-of-the-World stuff he did for Herbert W Armstrong at The Plain Truth. Wolverton was a very religious guy and was very proud the way it came out. Dark Horse put out some.
But great selections for what you had, King’. The issue of WEIRD TALES OF FUTURE is a total classic, front to back.  I think my favourite ad besides the hair restoring juxtapose was for the love letter book.
And of course, we must recognize that the artists put up the money to publish the comic line themselves for six issues. Just like others tried in the 80’s. And JUST LIKE THE 80’S there was a comic glut and WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE didn’t make it.
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2023, 05:53:44 AM »


Yes. Basil Wolverton.
The cover for WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE should have been in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT, and I hope it was, along with other stuff Wolverton could have hacked off the good doctor with. NIGHTMARE WORLD would have been great start.

MISTER MYSTERY has one of the best set ups ever with the hair saver ad right beside THE BRAIN BATS FROM VENUS.

I think my favourite ad besides the hair restoring juxtapose was for the love letter book.



Morgus, the monster on that cover would have been great for 'Seduction of the Innocent', though I didn't think the girl looked all that terrified. She seems to be thinking, 'Sheesh'  :D

And yes, great ad placement with the hair saver. I wonder how many lovelorn teens would have bought the book on love letters? Probably not as big a hit as the Bullworker.

My favourite ad was for the mail-order records in Weird Tales. I love the fact that the only choices you have are hit parade tunes, hill billy hits, or most loved hymns. I could have sworn there were more genres than that, even in 1952! I love looking at old ads in comics and magazines. Sometimes as much fun as the stories.

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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2023, 07:46:08 AM »

True that, Q.Q. The ads are sometimes the best things in the comics. And very often, the most important.
The other good one that made me laugh was that Captain Marvel buzz bomb they were selling. What could go wrong??

Hey, what do you want to bet the book on love letters dated back to the '20's or '30's? I'd bet a burrito the records were made by studio guys just trying to sell records on their own and the records got sold off when they broke up. (There are no NAMES connected to the songs, and I'm betting they were a country and western outfit that did the gospel and hit parade to cover their bets.)

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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2023, 08:36:04 PM »

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Hey, what do you want to bet the book on love letters dated back to the '20's or '30's? I'd bet a burrito the records were made by studio guys just trying to sell records on their own and the records got sold off when they broke up. (There are no NAMES connected to the songs, and I'm betting they were a country and western outfit that did the gospel and hit parade to cover their bets.)


I've long been fascinated by these comic-book record offers. Given how ubiquitous they were it's surprising how little seems to have been written about them. I've never seen one of these discs, even in photos, but a few people online reported having heard them back in the day.

What follows is a bunch of speculation based on what little I've dug up through research. Maybe someone who actually produced records (I'm thinking of you, Robb) can blow it all out of the water and tell the real story. If so, I welcome the clarification.

From what I've pieced together there seem to have been one or more companies (perhaps record-pressing plants?) who mass-produced these things for next to nothing, then sold them in bulk to resellers at a few pennies per disc. I've found ads in the tiny-print classified section of 1950s music trade papers offering wholesale lots of hit-song and country-western compilations. These are likely the ones advertised in comics.

Most 78 RPM records ran about three minutes on a side. In the latter days when 78s switched from shellac to vinyl they figured out how to squeeze a little extra music onto each side. Prolific cover-version label "Tops" managed to put two more-or-less complete songs on each side of a 78. But I never understood how they could put three songs on a side.

According to people who saw the records, they did it by chopping each song down to a minute-plus. The anonymous performers would bang out a verse and a chorus and then it was out the back door for lunch. The players were no doubt session musicians, newcomers, and fading old-timers slumming for a few bucks to pay the rent. I'm willing to bet there were more than a few customers who felt cheated when they received their amazing hit parade collections.

Of course the production companies didn't bother with the niceties of licensing, union contracts, or royalties. Apparently it was much easier to get away with that sort of thing back in the day. I've found a few late-1950s legal cases in which rights holders successfully sued companies like Woolworth's for selling what they called "pirated" recordings. It's not clear if these records were actual pirate copies of commercial recordings or unauthorized new recordings of copyrighted songs. The latter seems more likely. In the mid-50s Tops Music Enterprises, the outfit I mentioned above, lost to music publisher Harms, Inc., over an unauthorized recording of one particular song. The case is cited as precedent in other actions but the judgement couldn't have been too bad because Tops wasn't sued out of existence. It rolled along for several more years and died only when the surviving founding partner retired and sold the label to a guy who went broke.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2023, 08:58:51 PM »

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Hey, what do you want to bet the book on love letters dated back to the '20's or '30's?


By the way, I found this in a blog entry about the love letter book. It was written in the 1940s and originally aimed at lonely servicemen, of which, thanks to the War, there was an ample supply. It was reprinted several times into the 1950s.

“How To Write Love Letters” was written by Walter S. Keating.  Keating (sources indicate this was a pen name for Henrietta Rosenberg) wrote numerous “sex” books, including “The Pleasure Primer,” “The Sex-in-Scene from Freud to Kinsey and After” (possibly an updating of his/her earlier “Freud to Kinsey”), “Paradise for Males,” “Love Fever,” and “Marriage Mischief,” as well as ... “How to Get Along With Girls” and “How to Get Along With Boys.”  He  (she) occasionally branched out with self-help books on other topics, such as “How To Get a Job In New York.”  [And under the Rosenberg name, she apparently wrote fiction as well, assuming it’s the same Henrietta.]
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2023, 11:54:10 PM »

Weird Tales of the Future #1

The Monster on Mars
Okay. Although I couldn't help but think how the story would go if Teba was a giant hand creature making him think she was a beautiful woman.

The Slave Pits of Uranus
Is Kazmar a relative of Ming the Merciless? They seem to look similar. The editor didn't do a very good job reading the text before printing.

Jumpin' Jupiter
Zany.

Frontiers of Tomorrow
Interesting analysis of the trouble of space travel.

The Desert Castle
The year 1995... I wonder what things will be like then?  ;) If the life generating fluid turns dirt & a suit of armor into living things why hasn't it turned the glass bottle it is in to life? The artist doesn't seem to know the proper proportion of heads to bodies.

Nightmare World
The dangers of LSD.  ;)
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2023, 01:15:44 AM »

Okay, guys, good to see so many responses already. I know Wolverton's a Marmite kind of figure but he certainly had a style all his own. And yes, I don't doubt that those multiple title recordings were any thing more than rip off, recorded by unknown artistes who were glad to have the gig. There was a similar thing going on in the UK in the sixties where you could get several hit songs on a cheapie label, but none were the original recordings. AHH, what a poor muso will lower himself to for a buck or two...

Keep reading, people, good to have your input! :D
All the best
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2023, 07:15:08 AM »

Wow, 'Crash, get detective work. I get the feeling it all would have made a great book, like that coffee table volume that came out about the comic book ads from our youth.
Sort of reminds me of that 'set your songs to music' racket that used to be around. YOU sent in the poetry to be 'set to music', and paid for the result. THEY sent back a demo tape of finished songs. Good luck! Someone even collected a cassette of some of the more outrageous finished product that was supposed to be hilarious.

Yeah, I remember the HOW TO GET ALONG WITH GIRLS/BOYS volumes in other comic books. None other than Ed Wood tried the same gig with a how-to book on breaking into Hollywood between his porn volumes. But you're right Kingcat, you do what you can to survive. Remember the coloring books Steve Ditko did?


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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2023, 07:16:34 AM »

Kingcat said,
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a Marmite kind of figure

? You can spread him on toast? Or make  a hot drink out of him? !

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AHH, what a poor muso will lower himself to for a buck or two... 
As you probably know from people you are acquainted with, at least you are getting paid to do music and hopefully are getting in some practice time.
Not much different from artists doing advertising or book covers. Neal Adams as I recall, was sometimes  featured in those one-page comic ads. Then there was 'Captain Tootsie. And Steranko did some book covers.  Excellent, of course.   
   

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« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2023, 05:43:33 PM »


Kingcat said,
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a Marmite kind of figure

? You can spread him on toast? Or make  a hot drink out of him? !   


Perhaps it doesn't translate from the British vernacular. I'm sure if I said he was a Vegemite kind of character, it wouldn't mean the same. It's a phrase over here that means either you love him or hate him.  ;D
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2023, 07:20:11 PM »

One of my Uncle Lens’ lines;
"Mar-might. Mar-won’t. Mar-could be talked into it.”
Then it would be “Mars Needs Women.” and the pun-fest would be on. That could last ten minutes and clear the breakfast table.
Got to the point where gramma would pause before putting the jar on the table and do a quick assessment as to if he had the urge to put the whole show on the road that morning. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2023, 08:03:14 PM »


Yes. Basil Wolverton.
The cover for WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE should have been in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT, and I hope it was, along with other stuff Wolverton could have hacked off the good doctor with. NIGHTMARE WORLD would have been great start.
The assistant in Mortellaro story reminds me of Smithers from THE SIMPSONS. And in the advanced age of 1995.
MISTER MYSTERY has one of the best set ups ever with the hair saver ad right beside THE BRAIN BATS FROM VENUS. BiffBangPow was right, reading that story in and of itself would have been a crazy ride in 1952, but those two images together side by side would have been the perfect touch. Hey, any chance that the story in THE MAN WHO BEAT THE CHAIR is true? 
The JUMPIN’ JUPITER and MYSTIC MOOT stories were actually funny and are fine representatives of Wolverton’s  humour line.
All in all a great overview of the artists stuff. Only thing missing is his End-of-the-World stuff he did for Herbert W Armstrong at The Plain Truth. Wolverton was a very religious guy and was very proud the way it came out. Dark Horse put out some.
But great selections for what you had, King’. The issue of WEIRD TALES OF FUTURE is a total classic, front to back.  I think my favourite ad besides the hair restoring juxtapose was for the love letter book.
And of course, we must recognize that the artists put up the money to publish the comic line themselves for six issues. Just like others tried in the 80’s. And JUST LIKE THE 80’S there was a comic glut and WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE didn’t make it. 


Reading these book choices in a revelation to me, because my main 70 years' impression of Basil Wolverton's work has been that he was an ironical, tongue-in-cheek writer/artist, who was a tortured, deep thinker, who got therapeutic relief from his struggles with life, by poking fun at it.  Having read only Wolverton's comedic stories and comic strips(appearing inside exclusively comedy-oriented comic books), as I was interested almost exclusively, in comedy-oriented stories, and very cartoony art styles(as opposed to realistic), I was shocked to learn that Wolverton drew semi-realisticly in totally serious stories.  I had only ever seen his totally comedic science fiction and "bizarre World" stories, all making the obvious statement that he seemed to prefer to NOT take The World and this life, seriously.

I am definitely going to enjoy reading these Wolverton stories which were inside books I've never read, nor, at which, never even taken a passing glance.
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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2023, 08:25:50 PM »



Yes. Basil Wolverton.
The cover for WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE should have been in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT, and I hope it was, along with other stuff Wolverton could have hacked off the good doctor with. NIGHTMARE WORLD would have been great start.

MISTER MYSTERY has one of the best set ups ever with the hair saver ad right beside THE BRAIN BATS FROM VENUS.

I think my favourite ad besides the hair restoring juxtapose was for the love letter book.



Morgus, the monster on that cover would have been great for 'Seduction of the Innocent', though I didn't think the girl looked all that terrified. She seems to be thinking, 'Sheesh'  :D

And yes, great ad placement with the hair saver. I wonder how many lovelorn teens would have bought the book on love letters? Probably not as big a hit as the Bullworker.

My favourite ad was for the mail-order records in Weird Tales. I love the fact that the only choices you have are hit parade tunes, hill billy hits, or most loved hymns. I could have sworn there were more genres than that, even in 1952! I love looking at old ads in comics and magazines. Sometimes as much fun as the stories.
Cheers
QQ


It's no surprise to me that European "Classical Music", Blues, Jazz, Rhythm & Blues, "Easy Listening" ("Elevator Music"), and Ethnic Music (Polkas, etc) (other than the Scottish/Irish-influenced "Hill Billy Music" were not aimed at by the ersatz budget popular music purveyors, as they needed to concentrate their efforts on the widest markets possible, because of the extremely low profit margins of that market situation.  The comic books in which these adverts appeared, were aimed at young boys between ages 7 and 12 or 13.  Most of those boys were from so-called "Caucasian", and middle, lower middle and working-class families, who were reasonably well-behaved rather than violent trouble-makers, and in 1952, were listening to general  American Pop Music, Country & Western, or religious(Gospel & Spiritual) Music radio programmes.  So the new companies who jumped into the record production industry after World War II, were bound to concentrate on marketing to those 3 markets.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2023, 01:11:50 AM »


One of my Uncle Lens’ lines;
"Mar-might. Mar-won’t. Mar-could be talked into it.”
Then it would be “Mars Needs Women.” and the pun-fest would be on. That could last ten minutes and clear the breakfast table.
Got to the point where gramma would pause before putting the jar on the table and do a quick assessment as to if he had the urge to put the whole show on the road that morning.

Okay, Morgus, all I can take way from this is that there's a whole side of you that I know nothing about!

Feel free to elucidate or not!  ;D

All the best
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2023, 01:17:29 AM »



Yes. Basil Wolverton.
The cover for WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE should have been in SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT, and I hope it was, along with other stuff Wolverton could have hacked off the good doctor with. NIGHTMARE WORLD would have been great start.
The assistant in Mortellaro story reminds me of Smithers from THE SIMPSONS. And in the advanced age of 1995.
MISTER MYSTERY has one of the best set ups ever with the hair saver ad right beside THE BRAIN BATS FROM VENUS. BiffBangPow was right, reading that story in and of itself would have been a crazy ride in 1952, but those two images together side by side would have been the perfect touch. Hey, any chance that the story in THE MAN WHO BEAT THE CHAIR is true? 
The JUMPIN’ JUPITER and MYSTIC MOOT stories were actually funny and are fine representatives of Wolverton’s  humour line.
All in all a great overview of the artists stuff. Only thing missing is his End-of-the-World stuff he did for Herbert W Armstrong at The Plain Truth. Wolverton was a very religious guy and was very proud the way it came out. Dark Horse put out some.
But great selections for what you had, King’. The issue of WEIRD TALES OF FUTURE is a total classic, front to back.  I think my favourite ad besides the hair restoring juxtapose was for the love letter book.
And of course, we must recognize that the artists put up the money to publish the comic line themselves for six issues. Just like others tried in the 80’s. And JUST LIKE THE 80’S there was a comic glut and WEIRD TALES OF THE FUTURE didn’t make it. 


Reading these book choices in a revelation to me, because my main 70 years' impression of Basil Wolverton's work has been that he was an ironical, tongue-in-cheek writer/artist, who was a tortured, deep thinker, who got therapeutic relief from his struggles with life, by poking fun at it.  Having read only Wolverton's comedic stories and comic strips(appearing inside exclusively comedy-oriented comic books), as I was interested almost exclusively, in comedy-oriented stories, and very cartoony art styles(as opposed to realistic), I was shocked to learn that Wolverton drew semi-realisticly in totally serious stories.  I had only ever seen his totally comedic science fiction and "bizarre World" stories, all making the obvious statement that he seemed to prefer to NOT take The World and this life, seriously.

I am definitely going to enjoy reading these Wolverton stories which were inside books I've never read, nor, at which, never even taken a passing glance.


Wow, Robb, I am flabbergasted to have discovered something that you seem  to be unaware of. Your knowledge of comics history is usually something I've been totally in awe of. Hope you find the thread interesting.

All the best
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2023, 01:34:28 AM »

Mister Mystery #7

So he's basically an amateur? If he'd been Dr. Mystery or Captain Mystery it would imply a professionalism about the mystery business.  ;)

The Brain-Bats of Venus
Interesting, if simple sci-fi horror.

The Killer!
I did like the fact that they didn't reverse the guy's pacifism. Too often writers will just have characters kill because it fits the writer's story rather than being true to the character's persona. Other than that the story was just okay.

What's in a Name
The writer clearly didn't do much research before writing this story.
Don't banks require identification before creating accounts?
Insanity is a pretty vague term. Psychiatrists would usually try to narrow it down to a specific condition.
There are a number of real life stories of people going into mental institutions and having a lot of trouble coming out because it's a lot easier "proving" someone has a mental problem than doesn't have a mental problem.

The Man Who Beat the Chair!
Not a bad crime story. Although I thought this book was more a supernatural/horror type series. This story would have been better in a crime series.

Hide-A-Waist ad
Nice bit of cheesecake.  ;)

The Wedding Eve!
Some interesting ideas, but I don't think it works as well as it could have worked. The ending wasn't foreshadowed in any way that I noticed.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2023, 01:55:10 AM »

Well, King', I grew up in a family that had ties to the UK...we were kicked out of Scotland because sheep were easier to raise than people. Settled in Ontario, Canada just under 200 years ago. Gramp went over to fight in WWI. Gramma had a haggis recipe, and loads of other back home tastes. So the Marmite was no stranger to the table. There were also Harry Lauder records, those old year end collections of British kids mags, and lots of CARRY ON movies, DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE, BENNY HILL and MONTY PYTHON on the tube. Dad’s 2 fave horror films were ACE OF SPADES and DEAD OF NIGHT.
Uncle Len was from the states and loved word play. Got me into comedy records and old time radio like Abbott and Costello. Would set up shop at gramma’s at meal time and just let the puns and jokes rip. The marmite was a fave of gramma but pretty much had the family split in half. Newbies to the table would be warned and then try it.
Trial by ordeal.
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2023, 02:33:32 AM »


Reading these book choices in a revelation to me, because my main 70 years' impression of Basil Wolverton's work has been that he was an ironical, tongue-in-cheek writer/artist, who was a tortured, deep thinker, who got therapeutic relief from his struggles with life, by poking fun at it.  ...I was shocked to learn that Wolverton drew semi-realisticly in totally serious stories. 

I am definitely going to enjoy reading these Wolverton stories which were inside books I've never read, nor, at which, never even taken a passing glance.

Hi Robb,
Oh boy, you've got lots to see if you want to dig into Wolverton.
His magnum opus was 'The Bible Story' or 'The Wolverton Bible' which you can read a review of HERE.
If that makes you curious you can buy the book or read the free pdf files HERE.
He was very serious about his religious beliefs from what I gather reading the first two Greg Sadowski bios which he wrote with access to Basil's diaries.  He made very detailed entries.  What I saw was how hard Wolverton worked at trying to find new ways to make money for his family in any way he could think up.  He got a LOT of rejection letters which are in the bios.  Living on the west coast sure didn't help his comics career either.

There are a few Wolverton archives shared on CB+ that I'd recommend as well -
BingBang Buster by Wolverton Collection - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=28921
Culture Corner by Basil Wolverton, The Complete (Fawcett) - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=29448
The Complete Mystic Moot And His Magic Snoot by Basil Wolverton - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=59572
The Complete Spacehawk  -  Click here.  -    Extras Only (larger version Click here.)
This last collection I'm especially proud to have helped play a part in creating.

-Yoc
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2023, 02:50:13 AM »


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Hey, what do you want to bet the book on love letters dated back to the '20's or '30's? I'd bet a burrito the records were made by studio guys just trying to sell records on their own and the records got sold off when they broke up. (There are no NAMES connected to the songs, and I'm betting they were a country and western outfit that did the gospel and hit parade to cover their bets.)


I've long been fascinated by these comic-book record offers. Given how ubiquitous they were it's surprising how little seems to have been written about them. I've never seen one of these discs, even in photos, but a few people online reported having heard them back in the day.

What follows is a bunch of speculation based on what little I've dug up through research. Maybe someone who actually produced records (I'm thinking of you, Robb) can blow it all out of the water and tell the real story. If so, I welcome the clarification.

From what I've pieced together there seem to have been (1) one or more companies (perhaps record-pressing plants?) who mass-produced these things for next to nothing, then sold them in bulk to resellers at a few pennies per disc. I've found ads in the tiny-print classified section of 1950s music trade papers offering wholesale lots of hit-song and country-western compilations. These are likely the ones advertised in comics.

Most 78 RPM records ran about three minutes on a side. In the latter days when 78s switched from shellac to vinyl they figured out how to squeeze a little extra music onto each side. Prolific cover-version label "Tops" managed to put two more-or-less complete songs on each side of a 78. (2) But I never understood how they could put three songs on a side.

According to people who saw the records, they did it by chopping each song down to a minute-plus.

(3) The anonymous performers would bang out a verse and a chorus and then it was out the back door for lunch. The players were no doubt session musicians, newcomers, and fading old-timers slumming for a few bucks to pay the rent. I'm willing to bet there were more than a few customers who felt cheated when they received their amazing hit parade collections.

Of course the production companies didn't bother with the niceties of licensing, union contracts, or royalties. Apparently it was much easier to get away with that sort of thing back in the day. I've found a few late-1950s legal cases in which rights holders successfully sued companies like Woolworth's for selling what they called "pirated" recordings. (4) It's not clear if these records were actual pirate copies of commercial recordings or unauthorized new recordings of copyrighted songs. The latter seems more likely. In the mid-50s Tops Music Enterprises, the outfit I mentioned above, lost to music publisher Harms, Inc., over an unauthorized recording of one particular song. The case is cited as precedent in other actions but the judgement couldn't have been too bad because Tops wasn't sued out of existence. It rolled along for several more years and died only when the surviving founding partner retired and sold the label to a guy who went broke.


Crash, you have raised come great questions, and made very impressively accurate guesses of their answers.

As record collecting was, in a way, more near and dear to my heart than comic book collecting, this topic is very interesting to me.  As a young comic book reader in the late 1940s and early 1950s, I saw those adverts but usually ignored most of them, except the funny novelty ads, just to see what strange things were available.  By 1954, when I had been introduced to junk stores, thrift stores, bargain bins in record shops, and used record shelves in book and furniture stores, I was introduced to "budget record labels", which contained recordings of the Pop and C&W hit songs of the day, or very popular traditional folk(including older Hill Billy songs) and Spiritual songs.  I saw issues of the two main national U.S. budget record labels, "Tops Records" and "Hit Records".  There were also several smaller, regional companies in that field.

(1) I think it is possible that one or a few of the biggest budget record companies were owned by owners who also owned record pressing plants. Promenade Records was a late 1950s budget "knock-off" label that was owned by Synthetic Plastics Company, who obviously operated their own record pressing plant, and likely their own record mastering service and had at least a small recording studio.  Here is one of their 45 RPM EP records with 2 cuts on each side:   

You can listen to this uncredited Rock-A-Billy singer singing Elvis Presley's "Don't Be Cruel" here (on YouTube):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qArfUgnXV8c

Here is a Tops 45 RPM EP with 2 cuts on each side.  "Come Go With Me" by Maurice Washington and The Toppers is noteworthy because it was sung likely by a talented group that had some later (or earlier) success on the R&B charts.  "The Toppers" was the company house band name, which was mainly a "whitebread" milquetoast studio group, but once in a great while Tops actually got quality professional groups and singers in to record "ethnic" music.  Personally, despite the lead singer singing in falsetto, I like it better than The Dell Vikings' original.  The group is tight, and The band is quite good and very professional. I really love the sax solo in the break.  It's in a group of about 8 to 10 recordings out of several thousand that I've heard on budget labels, that I deem worth a listen:



It can be heard here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYMwfvW0w8


I also know of several pressing plants in Detroit, Chicago, and New York Metro Areas, whose owners also operated record producing companies, (which also had record mastering facilities and had their own in-house recording studios, which were, at the very least, adequate enough for recording demo records, and they had acetate record producing capability (all of which was high-level enough for producing "budget records" / hit songs sung by unknown, uncredited artists (or credited to people or groups using false names)). Shelley Plastic Products of Huntington Station (Long Island) New York, ran a large record pressing plant, whose owners also owned Crest Records (1954-58) and Golden Crest Records (1959-65).  They also had a small, in-house, recording studio for demos.  But, I don't know of any connection to a budget record label.  USA Records, a large national record distributing company headquartered in Chicago, also had their own record label (of the same name), and was affiliated with a Chicago pressing plant.  But, I don't know of any budget label associated with them.  I doubt that RCA, or Columbia Records, both of whom operated major pressing plants on The East Coast, in The Midwest, and in California, had their own budget labels.  I don't know of any connection between the owners of Monarch Pressing Plant in Los Angeles to any budget label (although some of Tops' late 1950s and early '60s records seemed to have been pressed in their plant).  Like Shelley in New York, and Columbia Midwest pressing plant (Terre Haute, Indiana), L.A.'s Monarch plant was one of the few that pressed mainly polystyrene records. The only other plant in L.A. that likely pressed Tops Records was Allied Metal Products.

The "Weird Tales" record advert listed "Hit Tunes Co.", of Newark, New Jersey, as the address to send the payment coupon.  There was a major record pressing plant in Newark, and another major pressing plant in northern New Jersey during the 1950s.  The plant most likely used to press East Coast budget records during the 1950s was Abbey Record MFG. Co, also in Newark.  But, I've never heard of any ownership connection between them and a budget label. 

I never saw any of the budget records for sale at retail prices in record shops (although, a few of them found their way into bargain bins there).  So, the budget labels had to market their records through discount (5 and dime, and dime stores) and chain discount stores (like Woolworth's and Walgreen's), and the direct market from the producer, through ads in comic books and magazines.

(2) As I remember, extended play records (EPs) (2+ songs per side), usually were restricted to only 1 song
until 1949, when RCA introduced its microgroove process.  That immediately ushered in the 45 RPM era.  So, starting in 1949, Tops Records and Hit Records could issue 78 RPM EP records with 2 songs per side, and 45 RPM records EP with 3 per side.  I think that Tops Records also sold 10 inch, and later, 12 inch LP albums with 5 (and later 6) songs per side (starting from 1954 or 1955). The budget labels DID try to keep the length of their versions down to from about 1:50 to about 2:15 or so, to be able to fit their desired 3 cuts to a side. on singles, 5 to a side on 10 inch LPs, and 6 to a side on 12 inch LPs. 

Related to QQ's comment that all different music genres weren't represented, Tops produced other genres in several more subsidiary labels (Gilmar, Mayfair(StereoLPs), Melody(C&W), and Tops "Kiddie Series", and Tops "Organ All-Time Hit Series".  They even covered Blues R&B, and Jazz in their "Harlem Hit Parade" series.  But in many years of combing Ghetto thrift, junk stores, and record shop bargain bins, I've only seen a handful of issues of that label.  So, I doubt that budget records sold much, at all, in that market.

Tops Records was located in Los Angeles, and ran from 1947-1962 (when they were bought out by Pickwick, International (who were later bought out by Capitol Records (who were later bought out by E.M.I.).  The larger "Hit Records" budget label was located in Nashville, and actually used a few singing artists who had later careers with regular commercial record labels, and some even had charted "hits".  But most of their singers were totally unknowns or marginal to that industry.  Hit operated from 1962-1965. Herbert Hunter, who sang one of the most iconic Northern Soul hits, was one of the most prolific artists for Hit Records.  There was an earlier, much smaller, "Hit Records" budget label operating in the early-to-mid 1950s operating somewhere on The East Coast, which could possibly have been affiliated with the "Hit Tunes Co. of the comic book advert.  I'd be curious to know whether or not it was, but have not been able to discover any connection, so far.

Most of the singers for budget labels were young singer wannabees, who would make some cash to buy food and pay the rent when just starting out in the business, to get recording experience, and free demo tapes of themselves, to shop themselves to the "legitimate" record companies' producers.  Others were has been single artists, or groups, who had made it in the business years before, and whose popularity had long faded, and needed the money just to survive.

Some very famous singers and groups recorded for budget labels, like The Ink Spots, "Scatman" Crothers, Dave Burgess, Lawrence Welk, and Country Pop singer, Ronny Deauville.  There were several others, but I can't remember their names.  But a few of those were early 1960s Pop and Soul singers, who sang for another (newer) L.A.-based budget company (Monogram Records), and also a Chicago-based company (Seeburg Records) who supplied records especially made for juke boxes, which were new recordings of hit tunes, but also original material.  That Chicago-based company had 2 different recording studios and offices, one in Chicago, and one in Nashville, and, unlike most of the budget record labels, used some successful current popular Chicago and Nashville -based singing and instrumental artists and bands, as well as high-level recording equipment and highly-skilled, successful musicians.

(3) Budget label's singers were not contracted, but usually just "piece workers", paid by the session.  Musicians were mostly regular, albeit marginal, union session players, but working on these non-union sessions "off the books" often paid in cash, just to make extra money between major extended gigs. 

(4) No, these were never "pirated" (e.g. stolen) copies of recordings of singers singing under contract for other record companies.  They were always new recordings made of other singers sing that hit song in a style as close to the hit version as they could make it in one take, with a non-contract singer, paying less than union wages to union musicians, and often using cheap, low-quality recording equipment.  Although, a few pressing plant owners actually operated standard commercial record companies which used union artists and musicians, and also normal record distributors, and the records were played on the radio, but also marketed budget lines, a few didn't even bother to separate the two different genres into different label series.
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Re: Reading Group #292 The unusual art of Basil Wolverton
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2023, 03:48:30 AM »



Reading these book choices in a revelation to me, because my main 70 years' impression of Basil Wolverton's work has been that he was an ironical, tongue-in-cheek writer/artist, who was a tortured, deep thinker, who got therapeutic relief from his struggles with life, by poking fun at it.  ...I was shocked to learn that Wolverton drew semi-realisticly in totally serious stories. 

I am definitely going to enjoy reading these Wolverton stories which were inside books I've never read, nor, at which, never even taken a passing glance.

Hi Robb,
Oh boy, you've got lots to see if you want to dig into Wolverton.
His magnum opus was 'The Bible Story' or 'The Wolverton Bible' which you can read a review of HERE.
If that makes you curious you can buy the book or read the free pdf files HERE.
He was very serious about his religious beliefs from what I gather reading the first two Greg Sadowski bios which he wrote with access to Basil's diaries.  He made very detailed entries.  What I saw was how hard Wolverton worked at trying to find new ways to make money for his family in any way he could think up.  He got a LOT of rejection letters which are in the bios.  Living on the west coast sure didn't help his comics career either.

There are a few Wolverton archives shared on CB+ that I'd recommend as well -
BingBang Buster by Wolverton Collection - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=28921
Culture Corner by Basil Wolverton, The Complete (Fawcett) - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=29448
The Complete Mystic Moot And His Magic Snoot by Basil Wolverton - https://comicbookplus.com/?dlid=59572
The Complete Spacehawk  -  Click here.  -    Extras Only (larger version Click here.)
This last collection I'm especially proud to have helped play a part in creating.

-Yoc


Thanks for the referrals, Yoc,
Looking at The Wolverton Bible was interesting.  I have already long known about "Powerhouse Pepper", Mystic Moot, and "Culture Corner" from Fawcett's "Comic Comics", and Timely comedic comic book series.  I wouldn't have looked for him elsewhere than cartoony style comedy comic book series, especially in my youthful days as a comic book collector, as I don't like his art style at all, and absolutely hated it back then.  So, I also missed out on his Bing,Bang Buster Western comedy series as a youth, but I already know of it from that series collection here on CB+.  But, the wryness and irony of his humour, and bizarreness of the action, and mood he creates is interesting, for at least, a one-time look, now that I'm a comic book historian (of sorts). 

I can see by the Science Fiction stories he drew in which he draws semi-realistic Human figures and yet still draws his comedic, cartoony-styled alien monsters, that his heart is in creating a bizarre world, and poking fun at it, pointing out its irony.  I have several totally cartoony and totally comedic Sci-Fi stories of his, in which the Humans are very cartoony.  I like that much better than trying to mix realistic figures with totally silly-looking monsters.  They just aren't scary in the slightest.  I dislike "Bone" for the same reason.  For me, realistic figures don't belong in a cartoony World.  On the other hand, I DO accept cartoony figures in a reasonably real-looking environment (like Carl Barks' Disney Ducks in front of his semi-realistic backgrounds.  They are still 2-dimensional lines on flat paper, as are the characters.  IF the backgrounds had been drawn in a very detailed illustrator's style, with shading, to create a very 3-dimensional feel, I probably wouldn't have liked that.

It's clear to me that The American Underground Comics style from the very late 1960s into the 1980s (spearheaded by Robert Crumb, Gilbert Shelton, Art Spiegelman, and others) must have come directly from its artists loving, and emulating Basil Wolverton's drawing style.  It has the same feel as Wolverton's, which is why I don't like it.

However, I DO like serious Science Fiction stories (I'm writing a 10-book Sci-Fi series of my own), so I will definitely read Wolverton's more "serious" Sci-Fi stories.

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Re: Reading Group #292 The unusual art of Basil Wolverton
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Perhaps it doesn't translate from the British vernacular. I'm sure if I said he was a Vegemite kind of character, it wouldn't mean the same. It's a phrase over here that means either you love him or hate him.  ;D


Thanks K1ngcat. You're right that it probably wouldn't work in Australia. We all love Vegemite! If you don't believe me, here's 30 sec of nostalgia that proves it  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5r3HAJh8es

Cheers

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One of my Uncle Lens’ lines;
"Mar-might. Mar-won’t. Mar-could be talked into it.”
Then it would be “Mars Needs Women.” and the pun-fest would be on. That could last ten minutes and clear the breakfast table.
Got to the point where gramma would pause before putting the jar on the table and do a quick assessment as to if he had the urge to put the whole show on the road that morning.


Morgus, that must have made for some Mar-vellous family times, sipping Mar-tinis and Mar-guaritas while waiting for the Mar-tian Mar-auders to land amongst the Mari-golds in Mar-seilles.  :D
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